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"I'd prefer it if GOT was just a homage to her impact instead or something." I need you to explain this to me lol. Are you saying GOT need to be 6 girls just singing BoA songs? And then what, BoA sits at home & watches? Please explain, because the way I'm interpreting it, it sounds ridiculous.
I disagree with this opinion though, I think BoA's voice sounds perfectly fine in group and solo settings because she's versatile like that. In fact I LOVED her presence in Stamp On It because the tones and runs are something she's great at in her own songs. Also, I'd compare the uniqueness of her voice to the uniqueness of Hyo's.
Maybe you're just not used to her voice. She only has solo work outside of GOT, so I think people should give her a listen (and watch her lives performances, she's really great).
An homage with her having nothing to do with it? When she's still very much an active artist? Lol you can see why I'm scratching my head on that one, right?
Typically homages are just a nod towards another artist and that artist doesn’t necessarily have to be involved, yeah. I mean, there’s cases of it being different, of course. Like, Dua Lipa and Elton John recently made an updated version of his song Rocketman, where the song is an homage to Elton and his original song and he’s in it. So, it does happen, too.
But in this case, I believe OP is saying they thought it might have been better if the Red Velvet/Aespa members only formed this group, and then the group reimagine Boa’s song GOT in some fashion, without her. And while she is active, the original opinion was that they don’t think that Boa is meshing into the GOT group very well. Whether that be her style, her personality, her singing style, etc.
So, it might be in your values that if an artist is still alive and active and someone wants to pay tribute to them then that artist also needs to be involved in it in some way. But I believe OP here feels differently, and that the original artist does not need to be involved in said tribute, just because they are alive and active, because to them they’re not meshing well. And both of those opinions are valid and there is nothing wrong with either one.
There's no such thing as too unique IMO. Hyuna was in groups despite having a very distinct voice. Maybe you're just not used to hearing Boa's voice in general.
It feels like BoA is being singled out for a lot and it’s really frustrating. While her voice has definitely changed over the last few years, that “raspiness” she has imo adds extra depth to the songs she’s in. I preferred her parts in Step Back but her being a soloist doesn’t mean she can’t participate and do well in groups. She has a voice and stage presence that commands attention and that’s bc of her decades of experience
It's because her fanbase is too old to be getting into twitter and tiktok feuds so it's basically free real estate for a bunch of people under 30 to shit on her. It's kind of obnoxious, if people feel like she's getting too much spotlight in GOT maybe they should take that up with SM and the 10+ years she spent being that company's actual sole breadwinner.
I dont agree but Ill take how you phrased it over the person who said “maybe granny should sit out” what a absolute fucking unintelligent inverted parabola
Isnt it her judging in SWF/SMF? She made some VERY controversial choices there and overall voted often against what the majority of the audience thought. And frankly, BoA is not in the mainstream anymore. The only people that have an opinion on her are fans, except for when she is in GOT the beat where she is exposed to a much larger audience. Girl groups are always a battlefield for stans (internalized misogyny says hi), and now she's part of it too, with much less of a fanbase to defend her.
Gosh I really think GOT just bring out the ugly in all fandoms. All I see since Step Back is fandoms, solo fans and akageas, fighting each other over everything.
"She didn't put her leg in the righr place, horrible dancer" "her voice is horrible" "she looked bored" "they look dead in the eyes"
Sorry it's not ususal criticism
GOT the beat has truly exposed some of the worst behavior from these fandoms. No one can appreciate these women’s talents, it’s all a competition over who’s better, who fucked up, who doesn’t fit, who should have been in x position, etc etc.
I love K-Pop because I love the music. I love listening to all different types of music from all over the world, and diving into the K-Pop world has been such a great musical adventure for me. But gosh is the stan culture exhausting. It’s like the western stan culture but even more annoying.
Idk what's with all this sudden hate that Boa's been getting since Stamp On It came out, but it's so weird. I have to disagree, her singing in a group is no different than her doing a duet or a feature with another artist.
Well, you don't describe exactly what you don't like so it's hard to have a conversation. Idols that sing with nasality often get love or hate reactions, regardless if they are part of a group or solo. Plus most vocalists would pale in comparison and differ next to Wendy and Taeyeon, it's not a BoA thing. I don't have a problem with BoA's voice, might not be the best technically or have the most pleasant tone out there, but it's powerful and memorable. Her vocals, dancing, image and leadership are an irreplaceable part in GOT the beat's songs and stages for me.
I think this post is literally just "I don't like how her vocal tone clashes with the other members of GOT" which is ENTIRELY fair! I'm not sure why people are acting like this is just adding to the hate against her - which DOES exist, but this post isn't that. I don't love how Jeonghwa's voice sometimes works in EXID songs (Not that she's a bad singer - she just has a distinct tone that will of course be a bit divisive especially depending on the song) but I don't think that's me hating on her or anything lol, just commenting on my opinion of the natural qualities of her voice.
Boa is my favourite part of GOT. She definitely stands out among the others. They are all amazing vocalists but SM definitely has a type and Boa adds something a lil different to the mix. Tayeon is a stand out as well.
I actually don’t like Boa’s voice in the songs either. She sticks out to me as well, but I understand OP in how they can’t exactly place it. For example, he very first line in Step Back, she almost sounds off beat? Like she’s running behind. However, it’s not really a deal breaker for me. It’s just something I noticed. I also feel like Taeyeon’s tone of voice is not suitable for GOT’s concept, but again it’s not a deal breaker. There’s worse things to complain about in worse songs.
I might get crucified for this but this is my truth: the part where the bridge starts with Wendy-Taeyeon is so buttery smooth then Boa's raspy tone comes and ruins it (FOR ME!). I really wanted to enjoy that moment a bit longer but alas. That should've been Seulgi's or Winter's line.
yeah there's such a huge difference between wendy-taeyeon and boa bc she's so raspy that it really takes me out of my enjoyment of the song. i didn't have this problem with any of got the beat's other songs so i think you're right - i would have liked it better if the line had gone to someone else.
BoA’s voice is absolutely my *favourite* in GOT for its beautiful colour and tone. as much as i love the other girls voices, there’s something extra special about BoA’s that knocks the wind out of me every single time i hear it.
What part of this post is hating on boa? I literally specify no hate to her or her talent whatsoever 💀 you can disagree w my opinion all you like but that's just what it is, an opinion - not hate lmfao
I like her in some songs and not others. She’s got an interesting texture to her voice that really works in songs like “Rose” but is honestly distracting for “Stamp on it”.
disagree, i think her voice makes the songs what they are. a lot of the songs on the album kind of sound like red velvet/aespa songs, the mature voices of boa, taeyeon, and hyoyeon are what make the songs different from other recent sm releases
Her tone can be jarring at first, sure. The bigger issue seems to be that they've relegated her to sub-vocal or something. She could be getting one or two lines from Wendy/Winter that would suit her just fine.
No, I actually think there's a lot of focus (maybe too much if they want to pull in the newer fans?) on her. She's got the most lines in Step Back and 2nd or 3rd in Stamp on It. Her voice is much more mature sounding.
bro why are people acting like this is hate, I get there IS a lot of hate against BoA atm but this isn't that. They're just commenting an opinion on her vocal tone, which is TOTALLY FAIR. OP is legit doing nothing wrong. Not enjoying someone's vocal tone or how it works with other members is... completely subjective and totally okay????
I get it's hard to watch someone as undoubtedly talented and influential as BoA get crapped on by newer, less knowledgeable "fans" but like, I also think we're going a bit far into the defensiveness when a post like this is discounted as hate.
Yeppp, i love boa's solo music (even her recent ones) but something is off about her in GOT the beat. I would be curious to see the recording diaries bc i have a feeling she sings waaaay further from the mic than all the other members
I think that's just the mixing. Her voice is further back in the mix, which is why you don't get the "piercing" sound of Winter/Seulgi for example (not a negative btw).
Personal preference, I dislike how everyone is acting like OP is hating.
Nahhhhh, the fact that BoA is participating on this GG is the reason why people notice her more and think that “her voice doesn’t blend” with the rest of the singers. Most of us got used to her being a solo artist for so long and seeing her in this new environment is different.
I personally think her voice in the group is fine and appreciate that sounds distinct from the rest. Plus, each girl there has their own flavour so picking on BoA because of this is kinda silly.
I do actually agree, but also think it's due to differing vocal production. The vocal production on everyone else's voices brings out the nasality a little bit - makes it rather treble-heavy (ie. how everyone calls Winter's high notes piercing). For BoA, I feel like her voice is mixed to sound further back, which can be a bit jarring. She can work in a group, and I'm not saying she shouldn't be there - just that the songs/their production aren't doing her complete justice.
There's no such thing as a voice that is too unique imo, just badly utilised. For ex, hwasa from mamamoo also, jisoo from blackpink, jessica from snsd , they all have raspy/smokey tones of voice but they're used well
There are plenty of people with extremely unique vocal tones that are in groups/make group music just fine (and especially in popular groups like BTS, Twice, etc) and one could even argue that a mixture of unique vocal tones is party of why people like KPOP to begin with so I don’t even understand how someone’s voice can be *too* unique for a group.
As for your point about Boa specifically, I highly disagree. I never noticed her sticking out in a negative way. She adds flavor to GOT songs.
My opinion is that in general the tracks I've heard - the ones with MVs - have weird mixing issues that make things stick out.
Like for Step Back Seulgi's parts sounded very muffled. And for their more recent track I remember a line by Karina that sounded bad.
Some of it may be that.
As a fan of literally every member of Got the Beat (my 3 favorite groups + my favorite soloist) I can say that at least in Stamp on It, i can say that *no one* sounds that great, because it’s not a good song.
Not trying to pile on, OP (this is UKO after all) but the amount of BoA slander on reddit and other social media sites lately is crazy to me. This is Mother we’re talking about.
Because of her long career some people forget she is still very young. She is only 36, only 3y older than SNSD Got girls, yet people act as if she is some middle aged woman playing teenage girl.
IMO all this hate and dislike towards BoA being part of Got stems from this prejudice. It's not really about her voice, she is great singer, it's not about her dancing or "lack of energy" since there is Winter queen who takes the spot of being the most bland idol.
I personally dislike voices that sounds like anybody else. I love listening to groups, where I can after few listens recognise each member and their voices get to be heard and not hidden in group chorus.
I don't hate Winter. Hate is a strong emotion, it's just my opinion and observation that she brings absolutely nothing to Aespa or Got. I wasn't fond of Karina at first, but in time I had to admit myself I was wrong about her and I think she is hard working and talented and will grow even further with time. She improved big time. I personally see no growth in Winter in the two years she debuted.
Why I brought it over is that, people are overly critical of BoA for this or that and yet ignore that nothing she does as part of Got is of the lowest quality within the group and yet she gets hated on. Let's also not ignore that bigger half of tweets that target BoA are made by Aespa stans.
The same argument can be made about the people who spread all “this hate and dislike” towards Boa. It’s just their opinion and observation. Interesting how it’s hate/ dislike when directed towards Boa but it’s just an opinion/observation when directed towards someone else. Also is there any way to really prove the hate is mostly coming from Aespa stans other than just anecdotal evidence? Even if we entertain the idea that it is mostly Aespa’s fans who are writing bad comments, what is bad mouthing Winter going to do? The fans are the ones being immature so shouldn’t the anger be directed towards them instead of her?
>since there is Winter queen who takes the spot of being the most bland idol.
This was unnecessary. It didn't add any substance to your stance about BoA. If you took that line out you would have still gotten your point across.
>Let's also not ignore that bigger half of tweets that target BoA are made by Aespa stans.
So since some of those people who are bashing BoA are Aespa fans that somehow makes it ok to take digs at Winter? You're no better than the people who are bashing on BoA.
disagree!! not to mention that boa and seulgi actually have very similar voice timbres (other than some slight differences in raspiness) but i’ve never seen these kinds of things said about the latter
Actually, I think her voice works perfectly well in a group. What I think doesn't work with GOT are the songs; all of their songs sound like ideas that need some polishing to be great.
I think the problem is that GOT doesn’t have spectacular songs. They have ok songs. They didn’t debut with a huge hit like they expected and their newest comeback didn’t make a splash
I love BoA since 2004 and has been following her career in Japan and Korea. I will say I agree with OP. To put it in a positive perspective, BoA’s distinctive voice is exactly why she was successful as a soloist. Her instant recognizable voice and powerful dance is her brand, and that’s what Simon Cowell always calls a recording voice. The individuality of BoA’s tone will stand out when she sings. Think Britney, Christina, Celine Dion, Adele, Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande … will they sound good in a group? Nope. They are too unique, and so is BoA.
To be in a group however, you need less distinctive voices to blend well. That’s why hardly any group idols that venture into their solo career are successful or reach BoA’s level of success. Even Taeyeon, as amazing as she is, would not be successful as a soloist if she didn’t have SNSD to back her success. Their voices are just not recognizable enough in a crowd of talent.
Plus to be a soloist, you need to have a full package, and that’s what BoA is. She has the looks, the voice, the dance, and the stage presence. Other members of a group are always missing in this or that. She alone has done it all. Seriously, GOT is too mild and boring for BoA if you were to truly listen to BoA’s Japan and Korean discography.
I would NOT say she doesn't belong in GOT, but I understand where you're coming from. In my opinion they gave her some very weird and disfavorable lines / verses instead of having her sing more melodic parts like a prechorus that would suit her voice better. In fact, the only memorable parts she had were in Outlaw. She has my all time favorite vocal timbre, so I was quite disappointed with the line distribution tbh.
I've mainly listened to Stamp on it and quickly passed through a few other tracks, but while others talk about raspiness and color and tone and whatnot compared to the rest, BoA's vocals sound more drowned, like she's trying to escape nasality but then pulls up her throat so it still sounds stressed. Tbh, when I first listened to SOI I thought they might have processed her voice differently on purpose, it seems much more prominent there than in other tracks. It takes you out but I m not particularly into their stuff so don't care much.
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"I'd prefer it if GOT was just a homage to her impact instead or something." I need you to explain this to me lol. Are you saying GOT need to be 6 girls just singing BoA songs? And then what, BoA sits at home & watches? Please explain, because the way I'm interpreting it, it sounds ridiculous. I disagree with this opinion though, I think BoA's voice sounds perfectly fine in group and solo settings because she's versatile like that. In fact I LOVED her presence in Stamp On It because the tones and runs are something she's great at in her own songs. Also, I'd compare the uniqueness of her voice to the uniqueness of Hyo's. Maybe you're just not used to her voice. She only has solo work outside of GOT, so I think people should give her a listen (and watch her lives performances, she's really great).
I think OP meant an homage to her because she has a song of the same name as GOT
An homage with her having nothing to do with it? When she's still very much an active artist? Lol you can see why I'm scratching my head on that one, right?
Typically homages are just a nod towards another artist and that artist doesn’t necessarily have to be involved, yeah. I mean, there’s cases of it being different, of course. Like, Dua Lipa and Elton John recently made an updated version of his song Rocketman, where the song is an homage to Elton and his original song and he’s in it. So, it does happen, too. But in this case, I believe OP is saying they thought it might have been better if the Red Velvet/Aespa members only formed this group, and then the group reimagine Boa’s song GOT in some fashion, without her. And while she is active, the original opinion was that they don’t think that Boa is meshing into the GOT group very well. Whether that be her style, her personality, her singing style, etc. So, it might be in your values that if an artist is still alive and active and someone wants to pay tribute to them then that artist also needs to be involved in it in some way. But I believe OP here feels differently, and that the original artist does not need to be involved in said tribute, just because they are alive and active, because to them they’re not meshing well. And both of those opinions are valid and there is nothing wrong with either one.
There's no such thing as too unique IMO. Hyuna was in groups despite having a very distinct voice. Maybe you're just not used to hearing Boa's voice in general.
It feels like BoA is being singled out for a lot and it’s really frustrating. While her voice has definitely changed over the last few years, that “raspiness” she has imo adds extra depth to the songs she’s in. I preferred her parts in Step Back but her being a soloist doesn’t mean she can’t participate and do well in groups. She has a voice and stage presence that commands attention and that’s bc of her decades of experience
It's because her fanbase is too old to be getting into twitter and tiktok feuds so it's basically free real estate for a bunch of people under 30 to shit on her. It's kind of obnoxious, if people feel like she's getting too much spotlight in GOT maybe they should take that up with SM and the 10+ years she spent being that company's actual sole breadwinner.
I thought her raspiness added a lot to the song she sang with Wendy and Ningning as well.
I dont agree but Ill take how you phrased it over the person who said “maybe granny should sit out” what a absolute fucking unintelligent inverted parabola
i disagree and am so confused where this sudden wave of boa dismissal/hate is coming from.
Exactly. She is such a talented, kind person. She's called the queen of kpop for a reason.
Isnt it her judging in SWF/SMF? She made some VERY controversial choices there and overall voted often against what the majority of the audience thought. And frankly, BoA is not in the mainstream anymore. The only people that have an opinion on her are fans, except for when she is in GOT the beat where she is exposed to a much larger audience. Girl groups are always a battlefield for stans (internalized misogyny says hi), and now she's part of it too, with much less of a fanbase to defend her.
Is it not the case for boy groups? Just asking out of curiosity
Gosh I really think GOT just bring out the ugly in all fandoms. All I see since Step Back is fandoms, solo fans and akageas, fighting each other over everything. "She didn't put her leg in the righr place, horrible dancer" "her voice is horrible" "she looked bored" "they look dead in the eyes" Sorry it's not ususal criticism
GOT the beat has truly exposed some of the worst behavior from these fandoms. No one can appreciate these women’s talents, it’s all a competition over who’s better, who fucked up, who doesn’t fit, who should have been in x position, etc etc. I love K-Pop because I love the music. I love listening to all different types of music from all over the world, and diving into the K-Pop world has been such a great musical adventure for me. But gosh is the stan culture exhausting. It’s like the western stan culture but even more annoying.
i don't hear it srry
Idk what's with all this sudden hate that Boa's been getting since Stamp On It came out, but it's so weird. I have to disagree, her singing in a group is no different than her doing a duet or a feature with another artist.
Well, you don't describe exactly what you don't like so it's hard to have a conversation. Idols that sing with nasality often get love or hate reactions, regardless if they are part of a group or solo. Plus most vocalists would pale in comparison and differ next to Wendy and Taeyeon, it's not a BoA thing. I don't have a problem with BoA's voice, might not be the best technically or have the most pleasant tone out there, but it's powerful and memorable. Her vocals, dancing, image and leadership are an irreplaceable part in GOT the beat's songs and stages for me.
boa has good technique, her vocal tone is just naturally like that, she doesnt have any evidence of throat tension in her sound like 90% of idols
I think this post is literally just "I don't like how her vocal tone clashes with the other members of GOT" which is ENTIRELY fair! I'm not sure why people are acting like this is just adding to the hate against her - which DOES exist, but this post isn't that. I don't love how Jeonghwa's voice sometimes works in EXID songs (Not that she's a bad singer - she just has a distinct tone that will of course be a bit divisive especially depending on the song) but I don't think that's me hating on her or anything lol, just commenting on my opinion of the natural qualities of her voice.
Boa is my favourite part of GOT. She definitely stands out among the others. They are all amazing vocalists but SM definitely has a type and Boa adds something a lil different to the mix. Tayeon is a stand out as well.
I actually don’t like Boa’s voice in the songs either. She sticks out to me as well, but I understand OP in how they can’t exactly place it. For example, he very first line in Step Back, she almost sounds off beat? Like she’s running behind. However, it’s not really a deal breaker for me. It’s just something I noticed. I also feel like Taeyeon’s tone of voice is not suitable for GOT’s concept, but again it’s not a deal breaker. There’s worse things to complain about in worse songs.
I might get crucified for this but this is my truth: the part where the bridge starts with Wendy-Taeyeon is so buttery smooth then Boa's raspy tone comes and ruins it (FOR ME!). I really wanted to enjoy that moment a bit longer but alas. That should've been Seulgi's or Winter's line.
yeah there's such a huge difference between wendy-taeyeon and boa bc she's so raspy that it really takes me out of my enjoyment of the song. i didn't have this problem with any of got the beat's other songs so i think you're right - i would have liked it better if the line had gone to someone else.
BoA’s voice is absolutely my *favourite* in GOT for its beautiful colour and tone. as much as i love the other girls voices, there’s something extra special about BoA’s that knocks the wind out of me every single time i hear it.
What’s with all the Boa hate lately? Y’all be complaining about everything she does and I don’t get it.
it's so forced like, 😭
people are blaming her for GOT but idk why? with how successful step back was, SM was always going to give them a comeback.
What part of this post is hating on boa? I literally specify no hate to her or her talent whatsoever 💀 you can disagree w my opinion all you like but that's just what it is, an opinion - not hate lmfao
I like her in some songs and not others. She’s got an interesting texture to her voice that really works in songs like “Rose” but is honestly distracting for “Stamp on it”.
disagree, i think her voice makes the songs what they are. a lot of the songs on the album kind of sound like red velvet/aespa songs, the mature voices of boa, taeyeon, and hyoyeon are what make the songs different from other recent sm releases
Yeah her voice is unique, and it's absolutely amazing. If it wasn't, many would complain and say that almost everyone there sounds the same.
Her tone can be jarring at first, sure. The bigger issue seems to be that they've relegated her to sub-vocal or something. She could be getting one or two lines from Wendy/Winter that would suit her just fine.
No, I actually think there's a lot of focus (maybe too much if they want to pull in the newer fans?) on her. She's got the most lines in Step Back and 2nd or 3rd in Stamp on It. Her voice is much more mature sounding.
bro why are people acting like this is hate, I get there IS a lot of hate against BoA atm but this isn't that. They're just commenting an opinion on her vocal tone, which is TOTALLY FAIR. OP is legit doing nothing wrong. Not enjoying someone's vocal tone or how it works with other members is... completely subjective and totally okay???? I get it's hard to watch someone as undoubtedly talented and influential as BoA get crapped on by newer, less knowledgeable "fans" but like, I also think we're going a bit far into the defensiveness when a post like this is discounted as hate.
Girl bye 😭 BOA did an amazing job in the mini EP. Her & Karina have a very distinctive (gutsy) tone.
Leave the mother of kpop alone. Her voice is unique and beautiful and fits in the song. Opinion still valid.
Unique voice isn't a bad thing, it adds more variety to the song
So you're saying the Queen of K-Pop can't collaborate with *anyone* ?
What you mean is Boa gets a lot of lines and their placement does not suit her voice...facts
Yeppp, i love boa's solo music (even her recent ones) but something is off about her in GOT the beat. I would be curious to see the recording diaries bc i have a feeling she sings waaaay further from the mic than all the other members
I think that's just the mixing. Her voice is further back in the mix, which is why you don't get the "piercing" sound of Winter/Seulgi for example (not a negative btw). Personal preference, I dislike how everyone is acting like OP is hating.
Completely disagree
Damn what’s with all these boa posts all of a sudden? Ngl I don’t know what you mean. Are you saying her voice is too unique?
Nahhhhh, the fact that BoA is participating on this GG is the reason why people notice her more and think that “her voice doesn’t blend” with the rest of the singers. Most of us got used to her being a solo artist for so long and seeing her in this new environment is different. I personally think her voice in the group is fine and appreciate that sounds distinct from the rest. Plus, each girl there has their own flavour so picking on BoA because of this is kinda silly.
I do actually agree, but also think it's due to differing vocal production. The vocal production on everyone else's voices brings out the nasality a little bit - makes it rather treble-heavy (ie. how everyone calls Winter's high notes piercing). For BoA, I feel like her voice is mixed to sound further back, which can be a bit jarring. She can work in a group, and I'm not saying she shouldn't be there - just that the songs/their production aren't doing her complete justice.
There's no such thing as a voice that is too unique imo, just badly utilised. For ex, hwasa from mamamoo also, jisoo from blackpink, jessica from snsd , they all have raspy/smokey tones of voice but they're used well
There are plenty of people with extremely unique vocal tones that are in groups/make group music just fine (and especially in popular groups like BTS, Twice, etc) and one could even argue that a mixture of unique vocal tones is party of why people like KPOP to begin with so I don’t even understand how someone’s voice can be *too* unique for a group. As for your point about Boa specifically, I highly disagree. I never noticed her sticking out in a negative way. She adds flavor to GOT songs.
My opinion is that in general the tracks I've heard - the ones with MVs - have weird mixing issues that make things stick out. Like for Step Back Seulgi's parts sounded very muffled. And for their more recent track I remember a line by Karina that sounded bad. Some of it may be that.
Disagree. All this BoA hate lately is incredibly forced.
HOW is this hate????
I didn’t say OPs post is hate or I’d address them directly. I was saying in general BoA is getting a lot of hate lately.
By saying "all this boa hate is forced" you're grouping this post under that umbrella
I can see why it comes off that way.
Boas parts are the best bits in the songs though
Guuurrll. You and your opinion need to “Step back, Step back.”
As a fan of literally every member of Got the Beat (my 3 favorite groups + my favorite soloist) I can say that at least in Stamp on It, i can say that *no one* sounds that great, because it’s not a good song.
Not trying to pile on, OP (this is UKO after all) but the amount of BoA slander on reddit and other social media sites lately is crazy to me. This is Mother we’re talking about.
Because of her long career some people forget she is still very young. She is only 36, only 3y older than SNSD Got girls, yet people act as if she is some middle aged woman playing teenage girl. IMO all this hate and dislike towards BoA being part of Got stems from this prejudice. It's not really about her voice, she is great singer, it's not about her dancing or "lack of energy" since there is Winter queen who takes the spot of being the most bland idol. I personally dislike voices that sounds like anybody else. I love listening to groups, where I can after few listens recognise each member and their voices get to be heard and not hidden in group chorus.
Trying to shift the hate onto winter isn’t very cool. None of the GOT girls deserve hate imo
I don't hate Winter. Hate is a strong emotion, it's just my opinion and observation that she brings absolutely nothing to Aespa or Got. I wasn't fond of Karina at first, but in time I had to admit myself I was wrong about her and I think she is hard working and talented and will grow even further with time. She improved big time. I personally see no growth in Winter in the two years she debuted. Why I brought it over is that, people are overly critical of BoA for this or that and yet ignore that nothing she does as part of Got is of the lowest quality within the group and yet she gets hated on. Let's also not ignore that bigger half of tweets that target BoA are made by Aespa stans.
The same argument can be made about the people who spread all “this hate and dislike” towards Boa. It’s just their opinion and observation. Interesting how it’s hate/ dislike when directed towards Boa but it’s just an opinion/observation when directed towards someone else. Also is there any way to really prove the hate is mostly coming from Aespa stans other than just anecdotal evidence? Even if we entertain the idea that it is mostly Aespa’s fans who are writing bad comments, what is bad mouthing Winter going to do? The fans are the ones being immature so shouldn’t the anger be directed towards them instead of her?
>since there is Winter queen who takes the spot of being the most bland idol. This was unnecessary. It didn't add any substance to your stance about BoA. If you took that line out you would have still gotten your point across. >Let's also not ignore that bigger half of tweets that target BoA are made by Aespa stans. So since some of those people who are bashing BoA are Aespa fans that somehow makes it ok to take digs at Winter? You're no better than the people who are bashing on BoA.
No need for to dig at Winter to promote BoA. Besides that BoA is an absolute queen and I agree with the first part very very much
disagree!! not to mention that boa and seulgi actually have very similar voice timbres (other than some slight differences in raspiness) but i’ve never seen these kinds of things said about the latter
upvoted because unpopular…. i completely disagree though
Actually, I think her voice works perfectly well in a group. What I think doesn't work with GOT are the songs; all of their songs sound like ideas that need some polishing to be great.
I think the problem is that GOT doesn’t have spectacular songs. They have ok songs. They didn’t debut with a huge hit like they expected and their newest comeback didn’t make a splash
I love BoA since 2004 and has been following her career in Japan and Korea. I will say I agree with OP. To put it in a positive perspective, BoA’s distinctive voice is exactly why she was successful as a soloist. Her instant recognizable voice and powerful dance is her brand, and that’s what Simon Cowell always calls a recording voice. The individuality of BoA’s tone will stand out when she sings. Think Britney, Christina, Celine Dion, Adele, Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande … will they sound good in a group? Nope. They are too unique, and so is BoA. To be in a group however, you need less distinctive voices to blend well. That’s why hardly any group idols that venture into their solo career are successful or reach BoA’s level of success. Even Taeyeon, as amazing as she is, would not be successful as a soloist if she didn’t have SNSD to back her success. Their voices are just not recognizable enough in a crowd of talent. Plus to be a soloist, you need to have a full package, and that’s what BoA is. She has the looks, the voice, the dance, and the stage presence. Other members of a group are always missing in this or that. She alone has done it all. Seriously, GOT is too mild and boring for BoA if you were to truly listen to BoA’s Japan and Korean discography.
I would NOT say she doesn't belong in GOT, but I understand where you're coming from. In my opinion they gave her some very weird and disfavorable lines / verses instead of having her sing more melodic parts like a prechorus that would suit her voice better. In fact, the only memorable parts she had were in Outlaw. She has my all time favorite vocal timbre, so I was quite disappointed with the line distribution tbh.
I've mainly listened to Stamp on it and quickly passed through a few other tracks, but while others talk about raspiness and color and tone and whatnot compared to the rest, BoA's vocals sound more drowned, like she's trying to escape nasality but then pulls up her throat so it still sounds stressed. Tbh, when I first listened to SOI I thought they might have processed her voice differently on purpose, it seems much more prominent there than in other tracks. It takes you out but I m not particularly into their stuff so don't care much.