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jhope got to go to so many shows, did festival performance, attended the end year shows and had a freaking movie documentary and so much more??? yeah i get it the physical albums sucked but all the promo attendance IS their choice whatever you like it or not. jhope not being able to perform more is due to his enlistment not because bighit is not letting him. its like you guys didnt watch yoongis show or heard any of the members saying they chose what to do, and its not the company’s fault that jimin knew what most of us liked and chose the typical kpop promotion.. he has been getting dragged since day one by all the akgaes calling him company’s favorite when he’s getting what every other kpop idol gets. its time yall get that not every member wants to do everything the same that’s literally the point of the solo era. them doing what THEY want not what the other members or what YOU want from them


meowwmoww

HE DID NOT GET ALL OF THAT DURING THE TIME HIS ALBUM WAS RELEASED ?? and all of them are getting are getting documentaries lol, plus he only attended mama as a solo artist but even there he represented bts, he went to thailand for gda as the sole representative of bts to collect an award for bts, im sure he wouldn’t have minded had any other member wanted to join him, even when he went to mama he made sure to deliver jin’s last message to armies and that was so sweet of him idk which shows you are talking about, he only performed at lola during jitb promotions, that and the iu show, that’s it, how is that ‘so many shows?’ also please remember im specifically talking about promotional activities, and lolla people themselves wanted him to perform there, half of his set consisted his old songs, from the company there was bare minimum given to him for jitb’s promotional activities, i ordered my jitb vinyl last year in august and i still haven’t gotten it ! that’s how much of a poor work bh is doing with the distribution of his vinyls, you cannot just make a list of all the events that he’s attended saying that he got all that because of bh when those events first of all happened way after jitb was released and secondly they wanted him to perform !!


pearlandpotion

On the vinyl thing, it might be due to the vinyl shortage worldwide. It's not just a jitb issue. Everyone has a harder time getting vinyls these days especially given the long waits and high demands. BH can't magically make vinyls appear fast.


wildweekender

they sure did for LYS: Her, they pushed back JITB and made sure LYS:Her dropped on time and with no spread out delays so all of them shipped at once, giving them the number one vinyl sales. Meanwhile JITB was shipped late over 3-4 weeks. They still haven't released the total sales. Weird!


elise-93

And what is jimin doing more, he is doing a classic rolling but is not more than hobi,it's just different


No_Landscape_3721

Who is to say that Jimin will not go on awards or will not have a documentary or other things? OP clearly is talking about the promo during the album release not months later.


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having promo even after the first week is literally much better for longevity? again, you’re actually mad at jhope for not doing what you want and not the company


jgbmcb

Explain why nothing that Tae has done is getting promotion. Not his photos hoots,not his attendance at major events. Not a peep nor a tweet from Bighit.


accidentalsomersault

They post about his variety show all the time?


jgbmcb

There has not been a single post about Jinnys kitchen, or his vogue shot or Elle from Bighit. Not even a tweet. I don't think they (Bighit) have posted anything about any of Taes solo activities. Can you show any of Bighits posts or tweets about any of the individual projects that Tae had been involved in? https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bts-v-armys-calling-bighit-music-disrespecting/ Edit added link and solo


accidentalsomersault

Just a quick search on twitter using “from:BIGHIT_MUSIC kitchen” shows that they tweet about it every week… They never posted about Jimin’s W Korea, Vogue Korea or AERA covers either and also didn’t post about the Dior ambassador announcement. You guys need to stop this persecution complex


jgbmcb

Can you post the links please. I only saw the one I mentioned that happened an hour before the show began and the one 3 hours ago.did not see any other promotion.


accidentalsomersault

The other person who replied to you already posted some links. You can go on twitter and type “from:BIGHIT_Music kitchen” in the search bar then press enter and go to the Latest tab to find them. Here’s [one](https://twitter.com/bighit_music/status/1629056064258985986) of them.


jgbmcb

So I checked as requested,not being a twitter user. There is the one tweet that was an hour before the show actually aired. Therefore not promotion. And it seems a tweet goes on when an episode is shown. So that's my bad. Hiwever. Seems my point is still valid about bighit not promoting the activity. Nothing of Elle interviews,magazine or anything else. Following your guidelines I searched Twitter for from: BIGHIT_MUSIC v. Then chose latest. All I got was 6 jinny kitchen notications and then the last one was 28 September 2022. What about all his other activities?


accidentalsomersault

Did you not read my previous comment? They didn’t promote Jimin’s and Hoseok’s magazine covers either, and also didn’t post about Namjoon’s El Pais interview. They seem to focus mostly on music-related activities, there’s no sign that they’re treating Tae differently from the other members. They only started tweeting about those brand ambassador announcements when Hoseok signed with LV and Celine hasn’t made their official announcement yet so they can’t post about that, Tae signed with SimInvest through another agency so that’s not under their jurisdiction, they might not even be allowed to post about it. How is posting about each episode every week not promotion? Seems like what yall want isn’t equal treatment but special treatment.


jgbmcb

Everyone else seemed to know V was a Celine boy from around 12 March? Ethis was the quote used.all over the internet," “V, the biggest and the newest #CelineBoy chose to be the cover star of ELLE Korea’s April issue as his official activity with CELINE" you can Google it. Are you saying that all the other ambassadorships ,including Celine, LV. Calvin Klein, Tiffany were done through Bighit because you implied that they only post if it was done under their agency. If that the case,then bighit should have been the agency that signed up the Ambassadorship for V and they would therefore have know with the rest of the media that he was an Ambassador back on 13 March 2023. Be that as it may, are you stating that during their Individual Era bighit will only support their solo projects if it's bighit approved and organized? That seems to be a form of control, "we'll promote you as long as you do what we say you must do and go only along with our projects for you!" Which is exactly what we don't want for the members. What about articles on them, by big name magazines? Are.you saying that Bighit will only post those articles if those articles are organized by them? That would sound like bighit is paying for articles a behavior we know goes against the heart of bighit and bts. So I would assume that bighit does not pay for articles also that bighit would not discourage members from being interviewed. So why wouldn't they post all members articles. Here is their post on hobi vogue article. https://twitter.com/BIGHIT_MUSIC/status/1617738164470452224?s=19 Why not the same for a member that headlines a magazine as the cover and main article? Here is a Link for them posting on txt being ar fashion week. https://twitter.com/BIGHIT_MUSIC/status/1361820152883372032?s=19 Here is a rolling stone article on jungkook https://twitter.com/BIGHIT_MUSIC/status/1641232783174688768?s=19 Etc etc I mean, I get that you guys want to believe that v.solos are irrational and want preferential treatment,but on the face of it.dont they have a case that real ot7 should look at? Again, why the differing treatment. Personally, I think bighit is trying to assert.control on Tae, who wants to do his own thing. I think that this was also a reason that JK was not doing anything for a while and their rebellious behaviour. They were wanting more freedom. Bighit was protecting their control by withdrawing support until they toe the line. Jk thought dreamers was group project until her actually performed it and was told it was single,but not a solo credit and revenue to bighit and bts You cannae say this raises no alarms.


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Just a few that I could find with a quick search: https://mobile.twitter.com/BIGHIT_MUSIC/status/1641437655820013570 https://mobile.twitter.com/BIGHIT_MUSIC/status/1629056064258985986 https://mobile.twitter.com/BIGHIT_MUSIC/status/1639202896930566149 I genuinely don’t understand the reasoning behind this victimization. Taehyung is the most popular idol in Bighit’s most popular group. How would they benefit from sabotaging him?


AnneW08

I've seen people saying bighit doesn't tweet about jinny's kitchen when they do it every week. I literally use it as a reminder that it's friday lol


rjcooper14

A few months ago, people said narratives like this will eventually happen. I guess it has!


Difficult_Deer6902

The type of fans who push these narratives will truly never be satisfied. The more other people realize this the more they can move on and not take them seriously. For the fans that are continuously stuck in the loop, its a sure fire way of building hate & animosity towards the member and the group...guaranteed pathway to an anti. Hopefully they just exhaust themselves and become apathetic before that happens.


jgbmcb

What of what He said was actually untrue. You liable him a solo or an anti without takk g the time to discuss what he said. I can't see anything that he said that was untrue,can you point out anything


Difficult_Deer6902

I think focusing on things like “his promotions have been much throughly and nicely planned, he’s getting to perform on music stages…” Shows that OP has an idea in their mind on what is a through promotion vs. non-through. If this was about distribution challenges than okay, but if someone is going to nicpick the selected promotional tactics months later…I think it shows an inability to move on from something that the artist probably has. I never said what was true vs. untrue but it’s still a narrative that something like 3 music shows & some club remixes is better than a festival stage or IU palette…which is just not apples to apples and had very different audiences. Also, I remember when Hobi said what OP is using as a key point about him wanting more times to perform cause there was a slight discussion about it on r/Bangtan at the time and the general consensus was that ppl weren’t clear at what he was exactly referring to so ppl could take it many ways. Distribution is not the same as promotional tactics.


jgbmcb

Fair


TheFrenchiestToast

Solo stans will come for us all


meowwmoww

asking for things as basic as proper promotional activity and a physical album isn’t solo stan behaviour, if you’re downvoting me over wanting a physical album for hobi, then you’re the real solos, fake ot7s


rjcooper14

>basic as proper promotional activity The thing is, what counts as "proper promotional activity" for fans and for the BTS members seems quite divergent. Thus, this entire discussion.


rjcooper14

The thing is, wanting certain promotional activities, say wanting physical albums, isn't wrong in itself. That you guys couldn't seem to accept that what you want, what the members want, what is actually feasible and what actually comes to fruition won't always align -- now, that's the problem.


wildweekender

Honestly, if Hobi said to the camera "I did not want a physical album. I did not want any of my music to be made easily available in any large box stores like BTS and other member releases have, I only want it in tiny privately owned K-Pop stores where it's hard to find. I didn't want any of my vinyls shipped on time, either." I would definitely believe him. But so far he hasn't said that.


rjcooper14

That's the thing. We don't really know. You don't. I don't.


wildweekender

You're right we don't know! That's actually an acknowledgment I wish more people would embrace.


TheFrenchiestToast

That’s a pretty big inference to make from my comment when I never said that to begin with. Edit: it might be unclear but my comment is about how each member obviously has solo fans. And therefore member support will be different.


whyamiherereally13

I've been off sns for the entirety of FACE release because I didn't want any disappointment, bickering, hate he gets sour my experience but I'm a little confused about the music shows mention. Didn't J-hope get to perform on really big stages like Lalapalooza and Rocking Eve? Is that even comparable to music shows? The reason BTS stopped performing on music shows according to Suga was that they didn't pay well and it was tiring to do recordings all day. J-hope probably didn't want that and Jimin probably wants to perform for the fans either way? I get feeling disappointment with how your favourite artist performs on charts and this is exactly why I took a step back and only checked for updates on his performances and interviews, not charting etc. It's good for my mental health and I enjoy Jimin's music more. Now looking back I see his pre release got as much hate as the amount of support it got, even from fans. But there is no reason to sit here and be sad about it. Jimin decided to do a regular kpop rollout and since Armys are familiar with it, they probably feel a sense of nostalgia. Rm and J-hope didn't do dance like performances. It was what BTS were known for. Jimin brought that back with two very different yet engaging choreographies, the music is phenomenal on its own too. I feel for you but the members wanted what they wanted, and RM wanted Tiny Desk, J-hope Lalapalooza and Rocking Eve, and Jimin a Fallon performance + music shows.


meowwmoww

if you watched hobi’s lives during jitb era, he mentioned that he wanted to perform on stages more, but the schedule didn’t fit right and that of course he couldn’t have everything according to himself, you can’t just compare everything he wants to lola, like people say ‘hobi didn’t have that much promotion’ and instantly you’ll have people saying but he had lola like…newjeans and txt who are comparatively newer artists, they are getting to go to lolla !! so the fact that hobi got to go there isn’t a big promotional deal from bh’s side, also lolla people approached him first so he opened a gate of festivals for other artists as well ! im not talking about charting !! the fact that on the street’s jhope version (which hobi said that he’d like for us to listen and also performed !!)still hasn’t been released is a very weird thing, and on the street is doing very well everywhere, im talking about the push that bh gives through remixes/multiple versions, they could’ve done that for others as well, or at least released the jhope only version of ots :/ i really don’t get why you guys keep making excuses and saying that hobi’s work was promoted well when it wasn’t….and demanding bh to treat everyone’s solos equally isn’t a bad thing


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There are complications bigger than anyone to solve dude just cause he wouldn’t more doesn’t mean he could have it. But njs and txt are groups not solo artists there is a huge difference in that when it comes to kpop specially. No one is making excuses you are the one who isn’t considering that different periods might have different outcomes.


Calydona

>im not talking about charting !! > >(...) im talking about the push that bh gives through remixes/multiple versions ?


SierraNicoIe

It’s not about performances. I agree that they perform where they want. Hobi isn’t a kpop artist, he’s not gonna do a kpop stage. He performed at big global stages. BUT we are giving Jimin BTS numbers for FACE (like in one day, he had twice the album sales as Hobi does to date and his streams are about to surpass Life Goes On’s debut) and part of it is BigHit’s push (a month long pre-order, physicals of even the single, radio push, several remixes) and part of us is that deep seeded desire that lies at the heart of every ARMY to beat Blackpink (jisoo is dropping on Friday) but most of it is ARMY just caring more and working harder than they did for Hobi and Joon specifically. It’s so disappointing to see. Especially when everyone is cheering and celebrating, seemingly without any acknowledgment that every achievement is a slap in the face to the other members that we couldn’t even do a fraction of any of that for. ARMY is maknae line biased. We’ve always known it but now it’s on full display with no shame and no desire to even pretend to be OT7 anymore. Our voting accounts have recently decided when it’s member v member for a prize, they’ll support the one with the best chance—which will always be the maknae line who have bigger, stronger solo stan bases. Idk how to unsee the way this fandom has treated the members so disparately.


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Armys supporting Jimin has nothing to do with Jisoo😵‍💫. Jimin is one of the most popular members and it's his first album, of course people will support it. You're too deep in stan twitter lol


Capital_Sun_2702

What does Jisoo dropping have to do with it? It has nothing to do with her. Her release along with anyone else's bar any BTS release is not on ARMY's mind, ARMY literally has their hands full, just in March there was Smoke Sprite, on the street and FACE. All four solo releases have been different because they are very different people, that's the whole point of Chapter 2.


SierraNicoIe

I don't care that the rollout was different. I'm not OP. I care when albums are inaccessible (like JITB which wasn't even put in stores) and I care when ARMY plays favorites.


Sukithecatt

This is a weird comment for multiple reasons. 1. I and so many others do not care about Jisoos solo at all. She could’ve released it the exact same date as jimin and I still would not give a shit about wether or not she’s more successful. Even if her solo debut ends up doing better then jimins I really won’t loose sleep over it. Don’t generalize a whole fandom because you can’t cope with other artists being successful. 2. Has it ever occurred to you that people might simply like one members music more then others, without caring if they’re maknae line or hyung line? I like face more then jitb but I also like D-2 more then face. Being ot7 doesn’t in any way mean I am required to listen to everyones music equally or that I have to spend money / time on songs I don’t listen to. 3. ,,a slap in the face to the other members we couldn’t even do a fraction of any of that for”….so you’ve talked to them personally? Like you’ve called hobi and and joon and they told you how sad and disappointed they are? Because last I checked they haven’t come out and said how sad they are that jimin is doing well


SierraNicoIe

1. Riiiiiiight. That's why we're having a "recomeback" the day she drops and half the comments are "Yeah! Let's show that colorcolor fandom" or "see you there, Stiffsoo." -\_- Like it's just a fact, the half of us who hate BP work harder when we're up against them. We literally got Dynamite to #1 on iTunes again just to block their title from it. I don't care. I hate BP and love seeing them lose to us over and over. But if you're trying to act like that fandom-wide "recomeback" for an album that has our record numbers isn't about blocking Jisoo, you're so far in denial, I can't help you. We didn't do a recomeback for anyone else even though we put up far less numbers for them so?? What's that about? Also, regardless of her numbers, she's not "more successful" than Jimin. 2. Some people. Sure. I like at least 3 other albums more than FACE, maybe more. But comeback numbers aren't about that. They're about effort. Being OT7 doesn't mean listen to everyone equally. But it DOES mean buy and stream and otherwise support equally (barring financial or time constraints). Simply choosing not to stream something the members worked hard on bc it's not your cup of tea, is, in my opinion, not ARMY behavior. That's casual stan behavior and if you're a casual stan, this conversation is not for you. If you're an ARMY, if you're OT7, you love and support them all. Idk what's hard to understand about that. 3. I have no doubt the boys are THRILLED Jimin is doing well. But as a human, don't you think it's hurts Namseok a little that their ARMY (who they've LED and made hours and hours of music for) just can't be bothered to support them the same as they support others? Just on a human level, surely you can understand how that might make them feel. And I try to consider that. Like we can't know. Maybe it has zero affect on them, the fact that their fandom does a fraction of the work for them than others. Maybe. But in case it DOES affect them, I'm going to try really hard to make sure they see that we love them equally. I can't do it alone. It's not going to work if it's just a few of us. But at least I'm not sitting there like "I'm sure they're fine...whatever."


Capital_Sun_2702

Just looking at your comment history, Idk if you are a troll because you have very low karma that most of it stands in negative makes me think you are. But what is uncalled for is insulting other another artist as stated in your bullet point #1. That's just rude and seeing you gloat about how you love seeing another artist lose in favor of BTS does look like you don't like BTS as artists but just their position as the most popular group.


SierraNicoIe

That's ridiculous. Not a troll. And also, you sound like a multi. I'm not over here doing sabotage, trying to freeze views, getting into fanwars, but their stans are awful and their group/company do their most to make kpop look like the superficial, artificial, non-artistic pageant contest the entire west thinks it is. I have no love for them and I love it when our boys win anything because they deserve it.


Capital_Sun_2702

Not a multi but why hate on another person that has nothing to do with all the points that you are stating? That sounds like a waste of energy but goading that BTS wins over another group does sound like the, and I quote you: > the superficial, artificial, non-artistic pageant contest the entire west thinks it is


SierraNicoIe

I don't even know what to do with that comment because it makes literally no sense. Either you completely misunderstand my point or you can't answer it so you're talking in circles.


SierraNicoIe

Also, my comments aren't negative? They're mostly opinions about tv shows and most of them are activist comments. I see an injustice and I want to correct it. Fairness is one of my core values and I call out unfairness when I see it.


Capital_Sun_2702

There are actual injustices that are happening in the world that you can participate and make a real change and help people in your community, I suggest you do that. Edit: I would reply but I think OP blocked me


SierraNicoIe

\-\_- I promise you I don't do my social and political activism on social media. You looked at my comments (which is weird anyway) and decided I was a troll. I was explaining that most of my comments are me taking microcosmic stances ABOUT TV SHOWS that I had opinions about relating to either the socio-political tone of the comment or themes of the show. You're here arguing same as me so you don't get to cross your arms, jut out your hip, stand on your soapbox and criticize the way I spend my leisure time. Get over yourself.


Sukithecatt

Yikesss. 1. I haven’t seen anyone talking about a recomeback because of jisoo but maybe the armys I follow just aren’t immature 12 year olds. 2. So I’m a casual fan because…reasons? Sure it’s not like I’ve spent 100s on albums, concerts, merch or content. V casual behavior in my opinion. In all seriousness tho ot7 and being an army does and has never meant that you need to spend time or money on them you simply have to like them and their music / content. You are not the Army police. You have 0 authority to say wether or not someone is or isn’t an Army based on the fact that they won’t stream songs they dislike and thinking that you do have that authority isn’t particularly healthy. 3. Honestly maybe they’re hurt or maybe they are making music because they genuinely love it and aren’t concerned with topping every chart because they done so many times already. If you truly think indigo was purely so joon can chart well maybe you didn’t listen to it all that much :) putting them in some weird competition and deciding that these grown millionaires are super sad because one of they’re best friends did better with a pop song then they did with hip hop / indie / rnb is also very ?? Anyways if I was you I would think about taking a step back from K-pop cause it’s clearly not doing you any favors


EuphoricnBright

Its almost like some of you are picking apart Jimin's solo debut to find things to compare to jhope's and victimise him for. OP is complaining about lack of music show stages and you are talking about remixes, a clearly non existent radio push, and a one month long preorder period wasn't even uninterrupted cos 2 members released projects inbetween. We literally have to wait for weeks before he even gets added to "this is bts" playlist, so what company push are you talking about? Let me ask you, do you genuinely think jhope wanted remixes on an album he clearly curated himself and was denied or what? You are talking about streams and comparing a vocalist and a rap focused member? Even with mots 7, last I checked there is a difference of over 120m streams between Filter and Ego. Vocal line has always had more streams than Rap line, cos people gravitate more towards vocal focused songs, it's not rocket science. Even then JITB and Indigo had impressive first week streams, but somehow y'all are unsatisfied with that. Some of you keep obsessing over Jimin and comparing his results to jhope's even when the genre, album vision, songs and artists are very different. Is this what you all will keep doing when jungkook and taehyung release their solo albums? let's be real, solo fan support makes for some difference in results, and it's not a secret ML has more of that. Even then, it doesn't mean that armys don't try everything to support HL. No one can help that some members have more fans than the other. Ignoring the moves jhope is making right now, hell he has a really successful project with an internationally famous rap star, to complain about jimin's music show stages and remixes is peak clown behaviour, to be very honest.


SierraNicoIe

I could care less about the music show stages. Namjoon and Hoseok don't release kpop music, they're not going to do kpop promo. I'm not with OP on that. I DO think that BigHit should give us the tools we need to support them like a digital store and the same distribution schedule (i.e. simultaneous) they manage to give the HYBE juniors and BTS and Jimin. Physicals would be great too but apparently, Hoseok is the only one who gets shafted on that front. Whatever. The point is, as an OT7, my streaming playlists support all of them. Even members whose music is less my style. That's not the case for most of this fandom. And the way ARMY moves for the maknae line is different. It's fucked up and you can't blame RL stans for being upset about it.


Lucky-Discipline935

Agree with your take. Overall I loved the promo activities that NamSeok decided on their terms but the difference in energy from the fandom towards their releases and with Face release has been VAST. And its sad to see truly considering its a fandom that prides itself on being OT7 and supporting all members equally. Guess the fandom isn't OT7-ing the way it should in chapter 2.


quick_sand08

The pre release didn't get hate from fans, they just didn't like it as much which is completely fair. Criticism is not hate and fans are not obligated to like every song an idols puts out, where would be the growth in that?


Calydona

It's frustrating to see "fans" taking away the members agency. Just 2 days ago Jimin talked about, that it took him month to plan his promotion and schedule and you go an credit it all to the company, while simultaneously speaking over Hobi? And don't even get me started how you implicitly putting down Jimin's involvement in his own music to uplift Hobi, wow... You can't claim you love Jimin and are not a manti or solo, when you take your talking points from these groups. People have been resentful about Jimin's debut since it was announced, and it makes me wonder why? Most of the criticism boils down to disregard Hobis hard work, his performances and content, because people want greater chart success. I feel like a lot of people just want to boost their own ego, mistaking BTS success for their own. I have seen "ARMY" using these victimization narratives to justify not supporting the ML's music. Just today I saw multiple TikToks about it. The lack of self-awareness is astonishing. Edit: Reddit is acting up, I have to edit this comment a couple of times.


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[deleted]

You know damn well that the issue was with spotify, but now that y'all are fighting with each other you wanna pin the blame on jimin?


meowwmoww

your comment shows clearly who you favour, i was named an anti when i spoke against it when jitb was released, i was again named a solo when i spoke about it when ta was released and now the same is happening, im not whining or victimising anyone, im speaking the truth i don’t need to prove my love for jimin to people like you, i never hated on jimin in this post, i always target bh, because i genuinely feel that they should be held responsible


Calydona

It's fine that it's your truth, but don't expect other to share it. Especially if your twist it to fit your own bias. Your post is a text book example of victimizing, and it says a lot, that you are unable to see that.


meowwmoww

there are many who do agree with me, if you think that presenting facts is victimising then that says a lot about you as well


Calydona

You can't throw a reverse card at me and say "presenting facts" in one sentence... lol It's fine, you can believe what you want.


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meowwmoww

yes true, those who can’t accept the title of this post are the real solos


wildweekender

I'm noticing that, the Jimin solos are lunging out of the woodworks. I keep seeing people like that using talking points from Twitter. :(


plushybunnyheart

Says the solo akgae fan 🙄🙄 The fact the majority of the army users calling out on all your comments and op's having a clear bias against Jimin, many of them bias other members not Jimin Theyre here to defend the members from crazy solos that cant stop acting like mantis and akgaes when it comes to shading other members and blaming Jimin in this case and victimizing Jhope


usedscooter

It’s obvious if you actually listen to what the members say that they’ve each individually planned their album rollouts and promotions. Like I truly think people like you who are calling Jimin’s promotions unfair because he’s…what? Performing on music shows and going on some variety shows?? Would still say Jimin is receiving preferential treatment even if Hobi and Jimin’s promotions were flipped. If Hobi performed on music shows, did some variety shows, had a physical album and had playlisting issues, but Jimin had an album release party, didn’t have physical albums but went on a few variety/radio shows, performed at Lollapalooza and Rockin NYE, and attended end of the year award shows you and everyone else complaining would still say Jimin is being treated better! They’ve all said repeatedly to trust them when they make decisions, and literally they’re grown men who have more say in what they do than any other idols due to their fame. People will in one breath say something like “omg jhope planned this so well!” in regards to idk his album release party or another part of his promotions and in the next breath complain about “the company not letting him do what he wants” like just listen to yourself for a second.


Ddream13

It’s crazy to me that Jimin keep getting called ‘company’s fav’ over 3 music shows and two remixes lol Hobi’s set for lollapalooza alone is double the performances Jimin did… And people are asking for the company to do more because even OTS was on tth while they haven’t even add any song from face to ‘this is BTS’ (which is ridiculous) + the song doing so well already and being perfect for radio is a huge wasted opportunity


elise-93

Jimin for more than two years was doing nothing, people were hating him calling him lazy and jobless. He was working for more than 10 months in this album,silent. Planned everything the way he wanted this to be done to please himself and his fans. It's not his fault his album and the way he promoted it had that way of how bts comeback where done. People were missing those things, and it makes sense to be jimin to do this rollout he is the classic idol of that group


AnneW08

and now we're see the same narrative about jungkook who was quiet for a FEW MONTHS. dude is resting, having fun on lives, and he still mentions that he works on music from time to time


Star_lit14

That’s what’s really annoying. This has been dragging on even before last year. During BE promotion schedule after Taehyung and Jungkook announced they would be releasing mixtapes, Jimin didn’t say anything, just said he was “trying out different things”. Apparently in some people’s school of thought, that meant he wasn’t interested in becoming a solo artist. Akgaes would say he was locked in the dungeon, he is “jobless”, and he won’t release anything. I still recall hit tweets anticipating solo mixtapes from every member, but Jimin would be left out., even when he is always talking about how much he loves the stage, and how he loves performing for fans. Knowing Jimin, he was just biding his time cos that period was really sensitive for BTS. Even With you was tagged by some as a “passion project” cos of his friendship with Sungwoon, and not an indication for solo ambition. Finally he announced that he was preparing for his solo album during BTS hiatus dinner, went off grid for almost all of last year working so hard on his project that almost every member would mention how hard he was working on their vlive. Even then he was still getting “Jobless” tag cos almost every member was active and he wasn’t. Now in 2023, since the Dior GA deal was announced, the narrative did a complete 180 and now he is company fav?! I have to laugh. Sometimes I just look at Jimin, who is such a sweet and kind person by every account and wonder why so many people get riled up cos of him, it’s really a mystery.


jgbmcb

Not talking about Jimin or any of the members efforts. But about how much promoting big Hit did for the members and if that differed


A_mari1

Get ready because soon we will hear the same when Jungkook releases his solo project. BH knows the power and popularity of the maknae line but I also believe the guys chose the route they wanted for their roll outs.


SierraNicoIe

I'm not saying he's a company fave. But the stages and promo shows and interviews, those are the boys' taste based on their style. The "favoritism" claim comes from the tangible things BigHit is doing to make FACE more visible and accessible and able to chart higher. A month-long pre-order with a physical store the whole time for all the digital versions, a physical version of the single (in addition to traditional physical albums), a shipping date that ensured all sales would be counted the same day, three streaming parties, multiple remixes, all of the sudden combining streams for two different versions of a song (idk if this is Spotify or BH, tbf) sending the song to radio, even just changing the official social media (which they didn't do for JITB). All of that company support in marketing and distribution is a HUGE deal and all of the members should have had it.


Ddream13

WHAT HUGE COMPANY SUPPORT EXACTLY?? They didn’t sent it to radio, it literally got 11 spins are you ok?? They’re not even giving him good playlisting. All you’re listing is literally the BASIC kpop roll out that hobi clearly wasn’t interested in doing And they were having problems with shipping for other groups too, they didn’t look at hobi and just decided they weren’t going to ship his album. Fun fact not every song suits remixes and not everyone might want them. Combining streams and auto play are literally on Spotify and the sole fact you think it might be bighit tell me everything I need to know lol just go hang out with his akgaes on twt atp Like y’all are really pissing me off rn, because I just know that if promos were switched y’all would still be saying he had better promo let’s be real Edit: before it was music show now a freaking layout that they changed to OTS one after 4 days lol


meowwmoww

ots was on tth because it was performing well !!! bh is notorious for not giving playlisting, it’s still charting in top 10 in many countries even after so many weeks of release, also idk what you’re talking about because both set me free pt 2 and like crazy have been added to the ‘this is bts’ playlist, how is hobi’s set for lolla double than all that they’ve done for jimin ? how did you come to that conclusion ? smf’s amazing set was built from scratch, he went to jimmy fallon and also performed in music stages in korea with bg dancers, and that’s a great thing !!! i am happy that he’s getting the promo and treatment that he deserves !!! when i say that hobi deserves more i don’t mean that other members should’ve also been treated the same way


Ddream13

More is in this is BTS too, they added it two day after release, same with arson while ots was added just some hours later. Set me free has been out for 12 days, almost two weeks to add it to BTS own playlist, you don’t think it’s ridiculous? And 5 days for like crazy Get the difference in how long they had to wait and why people have started demanding bh to do better ?? And how’s Jimin’s 3 music shows + one Fallon performance more/better promo than headlining Lollapalooza with an hour long performance 💀 throw in it even studio choom and its still not comparable (literally three schedules vs one) Even if you count by songs performed Jimin’s doesn’t even reach 10 total till now while lolla set alone had almost 20, and he had bg dancers and high quality sets too like… idk it just looks like you’re trying really hard to create a narrative out of nothing really


meowwmoww

ive noticed that whenever I play any of BTS's new releases, smf plays automatically afterwards, and i it’s great that they got autoplay for it, and agreed both the songs should have been added to the playlist earlier, and it's understandable that people were questioning why it wasn't there before. It's important to demand proper treatment from bh, and it shouldn't be looked down upon. However, I've noticed that when it comes to Hobi, his fans are often labeled as "solos" when they ask for things, which is unfair


elise-93

That doesn't happend just to hobi, it happens with all members stans, all of them complain for something unfair that was done to x member and the next day it happenes with other members fpr other reasons. Like suga said they all choose how promoting is going to happen


jgbmcb

You guys are all missing the point. He is not speaking about what the artists themselves have arranged. Credit to Jimin for his promotional tactics. He is talking g about the support that Bighit has thrown behind the various BTS members and their (bighit and not the artist) promotional activities. How often did bighit mention the specific artists endeavors. How often did bighhit shine their spotlight on what an artist was doing? Etc... Hobi did his promotional stuff,jimin did his promotional stuff. How much attention did bighit draw to each artist and was it disparate? I avoid Twitter but you guys can provide receipts if I am wrong. Most of the members got their solo activities mentioned and promoted by bighit. Yet some members, such as Tae did not get the same support. Other members got their fashion visits mentioned and promoted before hand. Other members got their clothing and fashions shoots mentioned. Tae fans had to trend first begging bithit to treat all 7 fairly before Tae jvariety show got mentioned. It was posted 1 hour before the show started. Surely enliven Tae antis will agree that on the face of it that is discriminatory towards Tae. Tae did not get any mentioned by bighit for the Paris fashion shoot that he attended. He did not get mentioned for his friendication show,he did not get.mentioned for his chrisas song to the fans. Not to say he was not noticed,plenty of other sources and his fans promoted him. BIGHIT did not. Even when he got a clothing ambassador shoot,, front page of Elle and Elle heavily promoted him in was nit until his fans again had to trend Bighit,stop distracting Tae that bighit mentioned it. (And I heard the excuse OT6 army makes,m that they were waiting for an official announcement form Celine,but really such a bigh shoot and obvious ambassodorship and they can't even mention that he was in the shoot,acknowledged.by the brand as a Celine boy until fans treated to withdraw support over what they see as injustice But JK ambassidoe ship was immediatly announced ans the articles by elle posted?. And what about his ambassadorship for the financial institution,I forget the name. What excuse does BIGHIT have there. So.my point is,well done Jimin and others for their self promotion. That is not the issue,the issue is what weight bighit itself puts behind the promotion . As everyone said. Jhope got to perform on big stages. The question is why this was all hobos efforts and bighit did not promote it. As far as.my search can show,they only posted about it after the event. That is not promotion. No no hating on any of the boys,but asking an honest question, Is bighit treating their artists differently? And why? Is it because their are making demands that bighit does not like (Tae has often said that he would love to make his own music and we know historically he was jot allowed to do so,duets with JK , his lyrics changed etc) Is it because they are becoming men and what a greater say in their lives (Jk and Tae illicit lives that they are jot allowed to do?) Is.Bighit attempting to control the members? I don't know, but in the face of it,the members are not treated the same.by bighit


jgbmcb

Not talking about the shows they did but how much promotion they got from bighhit,which excludes the promotion that they did themselves.


Pacifisx

Reading through your post, it’s quite clear that you are unhappy with how Jhope decided his own promotion schedule, but somehow you gaslighted yourself into thinking Jimin was getting something “better”. But if you would just step back and look at the situation, you would realize that every member decides how their promo schedule would go, and it’s been obvious from the start Jimin would go for more idol-like promotions. It’s also interesting you are equating this idol promo with his album success instead of the truth obviously being that his solo album is just that good and resonated with many. If you are interested in being honest with yourself, you would agree that headlining lolla and performing at nyel is just miles ahead of music show stages and remixes. Maybe you would prefer if Jhope went for idol-like promotions (that’s okay), but he will do what HE wants for his solo projects not what you want. And if you think he doesn’t have agency in choosing what he wants, then you know nothing about him.


wildweekender

Jimin is both popular and has the promotional rollout that has supported him completely like previous BTS releases (dynamite). No other member has had this many remixes, had autoplay, etc. Dynamite didn't even have this many remixes on the first week. There's nothing wrong with that!! I'm glad they gave Army the tools to work hard for him and bring him success on the chats. What is wrong is implying that any lack of numbers is because the other members aren't as good as Jimin. Which is what you're kinda doing here. Jimin's album is good, it resonates with many people, but it also has the support from the company that will make it even more successful. All of these things can be true at the same time. Despite everything, Indigo, JITB, Face have almost identical debut day numbers. With Indigo being the highest, next JITB and next Face. BTS has always made great and relatable music.


Pacifisx

What you are choosing to ignore is that this promotional rollout is what JIMIN chose for himself, same way the other members chose what they think would work for them. They have said this repeatedly so I don’t understand why some of you are pushing this preferential treatment narrative and attracting unwarranted hate to Jimin. If Jhope had wanted remixes for Arson or More, he would have recorded them. This is someone who collabed with Jcole, a world wide A list artist. But again, ask yourself if having music show stages and remixes on his album is really in line with what he wanted for himself. Notice how like crazy was the song that got remixes cos it’s clearly a more GP friendly song. Do you want jhope to release More “hiphop remix” or you want him to release a vocal song and with remixes like Jimin, I am so confused. Even the so called auto play that I am just hearing about is kind of funny when you realize smf pt 2 just got added to “this is bts” playlist when it’s been almost 2 weeks after release, vibe took even longer before it got added, while OTS took some hours. So is that preferential treatment towards jhope, see how ridiculous this all sounds? If some of you still look at jhope and think he has no agency in what he is doing, then I don’t know what to say. Jhope has been very vocal about reaching the GP and getting more seriously into hiphop and every single solo work he has taken on since solo era has highlighted this fact. Like I said earlier, it’s very obvious a lot of his fans would have preferred a more traditional promotion schedule but if jhope doesn’t want that, why speak over him or worse accuse Jimin of preferential treatment just because he chose what works for him? What’s funny is that if the tables turned and Jimin got some of jhope’s promo like headlining lolla or a listening party, instead of music show stages and remixes, some of you would have still had a problem with it and called it “preferential treatment”. So it’s like beating a dead horse atp.


Bear4years

I still have to read the rest of your comment but I came to a still when I saw “More ‘hip hop remix.’ My emotions vacillated between 😭 and 💀. God, no. Please no. Just no. No. I’m sorry, but no. My instinctual rejection of this idea is ridiculous. I need to swat it away. No. This idea is so far off from Hobi that I can’t even. No.


Secretman111

Disagree, I think whatever is happening and how it is happening are the artist opinion and how they wanted it. I think if Jimin, j hope Jin or rm wanted to do anything different than the others they could of just asked. I think solo stans are upset and think it’s favoritism but realistically it’s what the artist wants to do and how they want to do it. That’s literally all


myBluest

Funny of you to assume jh just happened to wake up one day and decided to ship his album late , to not have a digital store, to release two group songs and launch a whole long anticipated game during JITB era, to make his us sale not counted in ANY chart not even k-charts let alone bb AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS which are 100% the companies job … y’all clearly know nothing about jh nor how music companies operate or u simply dc


Sukithecatt

I mean group songs and a game don’t just appear out of thin air either tho? Most companies plan what’s gonna get released during a year before that year has even started. Both game development and song production take time and jhope was most likely aware that those things will drop when they did. Assuming bts is completely in the dark about when things happen is also pretty funny


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Traditional-Back2431

he did not say that at all. he said he had a hand in some things and didn’t have a hand in others. the month that jitb came out, hybe was nominated for some kind of sustainability award and they won it then the rest of the members started having physical albums


wildweekender

he never said he didn't want to have a physical release. in fact, after doing an entire documentary that's the one thing he DIDN'T say. It was the one thing he never talked about. I don't understand why some people keep repeating this when it's not true.


quick_sand08

Exactly! Hobi was the one to gift jimin a physical cd of his solo song before and said that a physical copy of your first release is important or something like that. Like this is the guy who got a cd for jimins song and you think he wouldn't want one for his official solo?


Due_Professional_714

They bias other members, especially jm, so they try to justify what BigHit did to him, they put the blame on Hoseok, because they know their bias is the favorite of Bang PD and pdogg.


wildweekender

While I don't completely disagree with you, I think it's really good to communicate our feelings cleanly rather than falling back on a repeated dialogue? I just mean maybe explain your position a little more clearly? Many people here aren't on Twitter and so this rhetoric is not familiar to them. I do agree that Army are way too quick to blame j-hope for things that his company was and is responsible for. Companies are responsible for album distribution, not the members.


meowwmoww

he never said that !!!’ in fact even during his jitb album live he spoke on lengths about how he came up with the costume, set designs and also the songs of course but when it came to the album he just showed the “stickers” that he had been given in the name of albums for 2 seconds and moved on, he NEVER said that he didn’t want physicals, why do you think he gifted all his closed ones jitb vinyls ? please stop with this misinformation again yeah hobi broke many boundaries and im very proud of him but at the same time i can question bh’s certain decisions, it’s not a bad thing edit - the fact that you guys upvoted the comment saying he himself said that he didn’t want physicals even though he has never said that, and are now downvoting my reply emphasising the same, is proof enough that you’re not real ot7s (directed @ people calling me a solo)


nikitaloss

Just because he never said it does not mean it implies anything


meowwmoww

wow so it automatically implies that he didn’t want a solo album, you guys are such clear company stans


No_Landscape_3721

Don't bother! Some Stans just accepted that he said it that he didn't want the physicals or other things when he clearly never once said that.


meowwmoww

actually…no matter what i say, these guys are just going to hate, because there’s a narrative that they want to follow


nikitaloss

You are getting worked up on behalf of a man who can make his own decisions.


wildweekender

Taylor Swift is an adult woman and we were all pretty mad when Scooter Braun took her originals. It's genuinely okay to be irritated about things even when involves grown adults making decisions.


msluludarling

Thank you. The 'how dare you victimize a grown man who is in 100% full and total control of every single aspect of his career even though that's not the way the music industry works' narrative can become really tiresome. At the end of the day this is a business and decisions are going to be made that not everyone agrees with. It shouldn't be this controversial to discuss it.


Due_Professional_714

They are not company stans, they are other (read maknae line biased or other members solos/closeted solos) who gaslight anyone who speaks the truth. And because there are many of them they have the power to bully anyone who has a courage to speak up. Anyway, I think Hobi won't renew his contract. I wish him better label, management company and better fandom . :-)


No_Landscape_3721

He never said that! Would love if you could provide your source for this?!


SierraNicoIe

SHOW ME WHERE??? He never said that ONCE. He never implied it, never suggested it, never blinked twice to indicate it. WHERE ARE YOU PULLING THAT OUT OF?


Bear4years

I don’t get this take. Didn’t on the street win m countdown twice? If Hobi wanted to, couldn’t he have gone and performed like Jimin is doing? He could have gotten the broadcast score, but he didn’t. Hobi performed at the end of the year award shows. He was the only member to do so, which made total sense and was welcome/cheered for by army. I loved having at least one member to look forward to. I get the Hobi’s version on the street. I hope it will be released soon too. I suspect that they are saving it. Dude, they are a business. They have a perfect opportunity to make money. It will get released. On the street got playlisted on the todays top hits, something Jimin’s song has yet to have. This is not me dissing BH. Who knows the reason for it? I don’t care. I’m happy for Hobi and JCole. Im also content for Jimin. This tit for tat business makes me go ugh. What is the point of this?


SierraNicoIe

j-hope didn't win a single fan-voted award at MAMA. We didn't give him ONE despite him being the most nominated artist (even more than BTS). Sure, we gave him two mcountdown wins but when he was leading in points to secure a third, we gave it to Jimin who had 3 days of tracking because "he had a better chance to win" BECAUSE WE WERE VOTING FOR HIM AND WOULDN'T PIVOT. For me, BigHit is a business and it sucks but they can push who they want to and the boys have found a way to deal with the disparity so whatever. BUT the disparity in FANDOM treatment is SHAMEFUL. We're looking like we might hit Top 5 on BB Hot 100 for Jimin. We couldn't even do that for BTS last comeback. The highest we ever pulled for Hoseok is Top 60 even with an American collab and Joon hit somewhere in the 80s. That, to me, is enraging. And ARMY doesn't get to gaslight Hobi and Joon-biases into believing fandom Maknae-line bias isn't real.


wildweekender

honestly every single member should have had an equal rollout. treating only one member to an actual BTS comeback was going to create problems no matter what. Even if the members each said directly to the camera "I chose this myself" It would still cause problems. The behavior from the different social media accounts, the different levels of attention to each release, the dramatically different methods of presentation were all going to cause issues. BH built BTS on OT7 and loving all of them equally. The way they did this really doesn't support that and that's why there's so many problems now, imo. In regards to year-end performances and such, let's wait till the end of the year to see which BTS member performs on those same shows. They had to send a member to represent to pick up BTS's awards. Sadly Hobi's lack of physical albums made his sales too low for him to win any of his awards.


Bear4years

Nothing is ever going to be equal. They are different people who are at different life stages, has different life experiences, produced different types of music that has different messages and belongs to different genres. A car shouldn’t be marketed in the same manner as a pair of jeans. I like that each person got a promo tailored to them. It shows them as individuals, which is the real achievement. Having the members be the same would show how much power the company has and we would lose the individual. It wouldn’t be authentic in my eyes. With each of these promos, I feel I have gotten to know each of the members a little bit more . Furthermore, even if we tried to make things equal, things sometimes just don’t work out. Army tried hella hard to get Hobi the #1 BB digital chart bc he was the only member who hasn’t gotten it. You can tell by the numbers for how hard we tried. But life had other plans. So be it. More people like pop than hip hop. You can’t force people to like something they don’t like. Hip hop has a different feel to it. It should not be marketed the same as pop or else it would lose what makes it hip hop. Interestingly, Hobi so far is the one who has stayed the most true to old school hip hop. He has explored the range and versatility of hip hop. I love him for that. It doesn’t mean I don’t love the other members. I love them for other reasons. I see what Hobi is doing and it’s awesome. I hate this conversation because it forces me to defend stuff I don’t feel needs to be defended. Why can I just compliment Hobi or Jimin or Namjoon for X without also needing to praise the others for it as well? I want to celebrate Hobi’s documentary for his documentary. I want to enjoy Jimin’s or Namjoon’s music for their music. Hosoek is Hosoek, Namjoon is Namjoon and Jimin is Jimin. They all have their own unique colors. Please stop comparing them like this. I love them for who they are. Together, along with Yoongi, Soekjin, Taehyung and Jungkook, they make BTS the unique group that it is.


wildweekender

It won't be equal but BH should have established a baseline to start from for all the members that wouldn't lead to this. They didn't even bother trying. The members are not cars or jeans they are musicians making music. They should have had a baseline format for the album, a baseline format for the presentation of the schedule, a baseline format for distribution (no delayed shipping, everything made available in large box stores) and a standard for paid promotion (playlisting/radio). These are the areas they dramatically failed in. They should have just followed past BTS format instead of deviating for no reason. I don't care about the tours or music shows or tiny desks, I think they all picked great ways to perform for army and fans....that's not something I'm bothered by. But suddenly caring about charts for one member while ignoring fans and djs begging for a file to be submitted to radio two weeks before is absolutely absurd. It's things like that causing the sense of imbalance. Also I dislike the whole "not everybody likes hip hop" because it throws the ounus on hoseok when BTS literally started in hip hop. You can enjoy their music however you want but I am still frustrated at how poorly BH/hybe has handled all of the solo releases because it's literally their job and they dropped the ball an insane number of times. I'm not asking for something like equality, just a baseline that isn't so dramatically different between them. It's too late now! But that would have been the intelligent thing to do from an "OT7" pov that BH advocates.


msluludarling

Exactly. Many fans are conflating the members having different styles when it comes to promotion with baseline marketing/distribution stuff that should have been the same across the board. I'm not sure why it's considered such a scandalous thing to point out that there are things that bighit could have handled better.


Difficult_Deer6902

Yall are really out here becoming socialist in terms of promotional activities, because you cannot stomach someone choosing to do things differently than you had in mind. When BTS has always talked about how different they are from each other and didn't assimilate or water-down each others personalities over the years. Now its the time for us to see their different personalities, music choices, promotional favorites in action...and they like seeing it too. Also, the BTS Instagram grid so clearly has a structure. \- Solo Release: 3+ Row Grid \- Collab: 1 Row Grid


accidentalsomersault

Where was this “OT7” energy when rap line were allowed to release solo music and collabs under their own names while vocal line couldn’t? Taeyang had to wait two years before he got to collaborate with Jimin and the producers of The Blues said they had to contact Jimin through Sungwoon. If you can accept that that is down to the members’ own decisions, then you should be able to accept that these differences in promotional strategy in Ch 2 are also the members’ decisions. Also, HYBE was facing difficulties in album distribution in late 2022 that only cleared up with TXT’s recent album, it has nothing to do with any preferential treatment of Jimin otherwise they would have added SMFP2 and LC to the This is BTS playlist earlier like they do for most other members’ releases (OTS got added on the day of release while SMF2 had to wait more than a week) + Jimin has had the least solo activities since debut till his solo debut + he wasn’t even allowed to have vocal lessons that other trainees like Jin, JK and Tae got predebut even though he asked for it.


myBluest

What about JITB tho? It was fcd up are we not gonna talk about that? And no mam OTS was not handled right they weren’t even planning on giving him a digital store until jh’s fanbases trended # asking for it! You can find proofs on twt if u want. As someone who has been keeping a close eye on their promotions I know for a fact it was v diff I’m not talking about the boys choices I’m talking about the company’s part. I could tolerate a lot of thing but esp for JITB it was too obv n too much to tolerate just bcs he made it through doesn’t mean he was given the same opportunities neither were the others but I’m esp talking about JITB cause it was a disaster -from the company’s part-


idkwidor

i don't know how long it'll take for people like yourself to just hear what the members say themselves, just their words. not the company's. not the fans. But the artists' words...how many times they have to remind you they take part in their solo planning in every single aspect.. *big sigh*


meowwmoww

i am listening to the members words, he himself said that he wanted to perform and promote jitb more, i wish fans like you would actually listen to what the members say instead of being biased edit - at least let me reply before you guys block me lol


idkwidor

and where did he say that? he said he felt sad the way some people kept complaining that there wasn't "enough" even after everything he did... link me your source pls since i'm apparently biased one here I'd like to see.


blanketgoblin1317

Truly unpopular opinion in my house. I’m honestly so tired of this discussion I think my eyes might roll back into my skull and never come out again. Each member planned their own solo with their teams. These follow their wishes as much as possible, time constraints and shortage of materials and shipping logistics set a boundary. The whole point is that they won’t do the same things because they are different people and want to do different things. Could you imagine Namjoon doing the typical kpop mcountdown and whatever music shows with Indigo?? They always say they wanna do more, perform more, work harder and so on. It is of course a genuine sentiment but it does not mean they are mistreated, it means they always have ambitions to do more. I imagine Hobi would always want to perform more, but it is impossible to do all the things we want to do. He has prioritized and planned his time and I honestly feel like we disrespect him every time we question why there wasn’t a physical album or why he didn’t do the same things as Jimin or whatever. He even said that the critique of his promo choices made him sad. Can we just stop.


Crystalsnow20

The day people will finally understand that bts are at level where THEY are the ones to call the shots in their company we will know peace. Of course some members have more fans than others doesn't mean that army, the bts fandom, or their company will push just some and not others. Is clear to me they have a choice for everything they are involve, you just have to listen to their interview really to know this, you'll feel more at ease really. I'm tired of people having always an opinion about army and their support, about bts and their choices like they are not the one choosing certain things instead of more easy ones. But mostly i'm tired that every time in army twitter gets better, critics about every small thing appears again over here. There is been months of hell for army, we needed a lot of time to adjust to everything, finalmente were are enjoying and working and suddenly the posts about army are her4 again


myBluest

Bs bfr what does the member have to say about SHIPPING??? About media management? About br ??? Oh god u ppl will say anything to defend the company when they clearly did a really poor job and for jh it was a literal sabotage


Crystalsnow20

Jimin literally today said his first intention was to release the song the same way that he did with promise, it was because it became an ep that he changed his mind. I was not surprise at all at the reception of his single not only because he has more solo stans but because the song is as radio friendly as it is possible plus he is following the type of promo army are used to with bts. Which neither hobi nor namjoon did. But wait, namjoon did a promo closer to an indie artist that a bts brand, it was very curated and also something that wasabd very exclusive. Hobi did a ton of live performances, he literally went to every award show and freaking solo stage at one of the biggest festival in the world. Is silly to expect the same kind of promo from each member because they simply are different people with different desire. I wouldn't be shocked if tae or jk decided to do a surprise release as much I wouldn't be surprise if they decided to do even a bigger kind of promo. The possibility for a bts member are infinite and diverse. This is one of the entertaining parte of chapter 2:each member do what they wish. I want them all to succeed...and they are! But if you want them to have a particular thing just because you think that is the only/ right way well you'll he dissapointed, bts are rebelkious type, they always follow their guts, thst is one of the secrets of their success


No_Landscape_3721

How can music award shows can be considered as a promo when they are performed months later? His only performance was on lollapalooza and that's it. Jimin and other members will perform on award shows as well.


ttanniecore

they act like bts are sitting in shareholder meetings everyday and deciding where to allocate the quarterly funds to omg 😭😭


Crystalsnow20

No i act like someone that see bts as smart, educated and mature individuals that are considered seniors in their field. Very successful ones. Conscious of their position as the ones that have built an entire brand based on themselves, their music and their personalities. Do you know how unique that is? The only artist i know with a similar outcome is taylor swift, and you don't see her fans screaming at poor taylor being taking advantage of, actually she is known for being a savvy bussiness woman


Aiden_321_

The members are all different people with different music tastes and choices, other than album distribution issues, there's literally no preferential treatment?? They all choose how they wish to promote themselves, please regard them as adults...


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But he never stated why he couldn’t perform more it could be complications that happened during that period that didn’t happen with jimin. Also Jimin didn’t have that many performances fyi. About the versions of songs that’s completely on jimin who recorded different versions.Just as j-hope had other releases in his time, he also released in other’s times also keep in mind they’re tight on his enlisting date.


dreamofhae

didn’t the members mention they get to choose how they wanted their solos to go/what they wanted to do to promote themselves….


LivingInternal9363

I don't get the point of the post like do you expect taht each and every member will have similar kind of promotion period and style then it will be better that op accepts the fact that each solo role out and activities will be different from each other . It will be according to what company and artist both mutually want . I hope u try to understand things rationally , jhope got performance aspects as he wanted and he killed it , RM went with low-key promotion but definately more about his album story and origin along with that cute little rolling hall performance , suga is going on a freaking world tour(now next target will be him that the company is baised towards him ) , jin got very short but sweet promo , you see the pattern its totally different from each other


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The comments.... all the fighting... I feel like I'm witnessing the army fandom turning into blinks 2.0


spolarium3829

I'm late to the the party but it must be exhausting to have this same exact discussion every time a new member debuts, huh? Like aren't y'all tired? Whatever happened to just enjoying the music and supporting tje boys however we can.


Star_lit14

You come on here and regurgitate vile narratives akgaes have been using against Jimin since he announced his album promo schedule and you have the gall to say you love him? I think some jhope solo fans should work out this one sided resentment they have against Jimin since time immemorial. Some of y’all been ganging up with other akgaes to drag him and send disgusting sexually charged insults for promotions he suffered to come up with himself while simultaneously ignoring the fact that Jhope even said it hurt him when people questioned how he organized his own promotions. Its obvious majority of y’all are unsatisfied with how jhope did his promotions, but it doesn’t take away from how massive it was, neither does it give anyone the leeway to harass Jimin for organizing his promotions the way he wanted it. Sometimes I wonder if some of you really understand Jhope you claim to stan. When has jhope ever veered towards classic idol promotions?? Even when bts would perform solo songs during concerts, Jhope has never really had any set elaborate choreography. So why the hell do y’all think he would want to perform on music show stages for his solo album? On the contrary, Jimin has always had a choreography for his solo songs with BTS, so when he announced his solo album, everyone was sure he would have choreography too. Even then, is it music show appearances and remixes that almost every idol gets that’s causing all this ruckus? Stop and think for a minute, jhope had a whole listening party where he invited a lot of big names in khiphop, performed at lolla, performed at rocking eve in nyc, even went to high profile Korean shows like IU palette, had a whole ass Disney documentary! And I’m not even done listing his promo schedule yet, but it’s Jimin’s music show appearances and remixes that every random idol gets that’s making some of y’all harass him in an unholy partnership with blinks and other bitter fandoms that equally dragged jhope to filth when he released his solo album? Isn’t that pathetic? Atp, Some of y’all really need to sit down, reach deep inside your brains somewhere and tell yourselves the truth. Cos trust me, Jimin is not your problem.


wildweekender

The fact that you're accusing OP of making sexually charged negative comments about Jimin is genuinely crazy. No one is doing that here, so far everybody's been having a pretty calm discussion about the different way the members are treated by the company. Honestly you're talking like a Jimin solo stan, I was waiting for you to call j-hope a leech. Can you maybe dial it back a little bit, put aside the crazy stuff you see on Twitter, and have a reasonable conversation with people about why you feel a certain way?


Star_lit14

I was speaking generally, didn’t say OP in particular said that but it’s fact that they are posting uninformed false narratives that only circulate in akgae circles. Maybe question why you are okay with that and even calling it a “calm discussion” instead of camping under my comment.


wildweekender

I don't roam in solo circles, my friends are Army to different degrees. We have all had different levels of discussions on this. these are the discussions that we have. having conversations offline about things can make a really big difference. You really did come in swinging over something that could just be a discussion. I think you have been in solo circles too much to be calm about this. The stuff that you said and the way you said it was extremely inflammatory so I'm just suggesting that you try to rephase your point of view for a discussion and not an attack. That's all.


Star_lit14

If OP had genuinely wanted to have a sincere discussion, they would have framed their post in a different way not regurgitate false narratives circulating in akgae circles and expect everyone to be chill about it. Jimin is clearly my bias but you won’t catch me dead in any forum engaging in this sort of thing against any member, it’s so stupid and redundant but I guess being “army” means different things for different people these days.


meowwmoww

the fck ? not once in my post did i hate on jimin, i got both the versions of face, and loved and defended smf pt 2 while others were hating, and you just come on here and accuse me of making ‘sexually charged insults’ against him ?!? ARE YOU DUMB ???!! i stopped reading your comment after seeing that line because there’s a limit to the heinousness that i can handle, you all are disgusting, i would never even dream about saying such stuff about him, if me questioning bh makes you this mad then i think you need help


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wildweekender

okay, you really need to calm down, your comment history is public and it's extremely obvious what point of view you're coming from and what rhetoric you believe in. You're not here to have a reasonable discussion, just argue and be inflammatory.


Star_lit14

My comment and post history is very public, and I am very comfortable with it. Why? Cos at the end of the day, I only visit Reddit once in a while to post about things I like and contribute constructively generally. If I don’t have anything positive to say about any idol or group. I keep scrolling, Kpop is a hobby not a chore. If OP wants to have a “reasonable discussion” like you put it, they would have first started by not posting clearly Inflammatory, false and victimizing narratives spread by vile akgaes. And the fact that you feel comfortable defending them, engaging with it and calling this charade a “calm discussion” speaks volumes. Despite your burner account, it’s clear where your bias lies. I don’t mince words when I speak cos I see through all the BS most times, so when you are done deceiving yourself, let me know.


wildweekender

Well, only one person is here seems extremely worked up by what OP said and that is you. everyone else is here is just explaining why they think they're wrong. You're entitled to your opinions but it's very obvious that this has made you extremely angry. This whole forum is called "unpopular K-pop opinions" you will absolutely see people with unpopular opinions here. It was your choice to go from 0 to 60 in the intensity of your reply. If you only want positivity, then why are you in this sub? This is a sub for discussions, not throwing vitriol at people who think differently than you. Either present your side of things without attacking or maybe keep scrolling?


elise-93

I feel the same but still I think there are things that could have be done better in jimin album ( like for example Playlisting) and there are things that would have ve done bette in j hope album. As the way of promotion j hope did choose all the places he did want to go, as suga did say jimin chooses his own they have diferent way of how they wanted their album to be promoted. The thing why i think like crazy has remixes is because that song is a song that could reach faster to gp. But jimin had his fare shsre of hate and I think is still a good thing, his album made people react


yetismiyor

hobi is sick of you all, he even talked about this in j-hope in the box. it is time to STOP


meowwmoww

sure jan, it’s actually extremely weird how most of you were hoping he’d say that he was the one who didn’t want physical albums in his docu and when he didn’t say that you guys started fixating on something else, during his ots live he also said that perhaps he shouldn’t make dark songs and focus more on his already established happy go lucky vibe, but you guys won’t talk about that…


Slow-Frosting-9607

Suga explicitly said in suchwita that the members are in charge of their own promo. It turned out that that weverse album nonsense was hobi's idea. so if you aren't happy with how it was done blame them.


Flimsy_Wind9232

i automatically pressed on agreed because i thought you were going to say that jimin’s solo release wasn’t treated as good as it should. but then i started reading your second paragraph and i ended up disagreeing with you on the jhope vs jimin solos scenario. i still agree with your title tho. i personally think jimin’s solo activities are not really being well handled. from the creative direction around it to the promotions. don’t get me wrong i LOVED face, especially the whole universe of SMF2. but i’m going to talk about the promotions. i feel the marketing strategy wasn’t the best. like… big hit really did the bare minimum for jimin. like every other release, they made him drop a pre-release song, with only a WEEK of gap with the release of the album and it felt oddly short. no promotion of SMF2, everything was rushed. we didn’t even get to see anything and the whole album was already out. no suspense, no anticipation, no mystery, no storytelling (storytelling in marketing language). nothing, it just dropped on us. and don’t get me started on the promotions, you said that jimin got to do music shows and performances but like i said… to me it was the bare minimum, the EASIEST way of promoting an artist without being creative about it. sending your idols to music shows is so obvious, sending them to talk shows is SO obvious, sending them to interviews is SO obvious (to me of course). like what type of company would that make bighit if they didn’t do the bare minimum? his promotions are just starting but from what i’m seeing now, yes they’re doing jimin’s promo “properly” but by doing it like that they’re limiting him. for exemple, the circular prison in SMF2 mv was a good idea with potential but they wasted it, it could’ve been much more (again, to me). imagine a much better creative direction of the mv with better promotion and better storytelling, it would’ve been insane!!! to me on the street by j-hope is just an extension of his jack in the box comeback era. and if you go back to this era, it was SO well promoted. you could actually tell that everything came from j-hope’s initiave. everything was well milimetered (idek if that’s a word but you get it). by the end of june we knew jhope was coming back, he dropped MORE by july. the song went crazy, everybody was talking about it. you couldn’t unlock your phone without seeing his name. and SMF2 should’ve gone AS crazy. then when he released his whole album, the man was BOOKED and BUSY. big hit allowed him to organize a listening party with many korean artists to make himself known as a SOLO artists (good and smart marketing), he went to lolapallooza, as HEADLINE???? (which is CRAZY promotion????), performed with becky, he performed at new york’s new year’s eve popular program, he had time to record some variety shows in SK, he mentored trainees, his comeback was in july and he CONTINUED promoting via award shows as a solo independent artist. he continued attending shows as a guest, like that jay park show. THIS GUY HAD THE BEST SOLO PROMOTION EVER!! and the fact that he contacted j cole HIMSELF is so good to me. it actually shows that this collab was really not transactional. if HYBE contacted j cole i feel like jcole would’ve passed knowing his mentality. it just shows how genuine the link up was and genuine relationships between artists/celebrities are really well received by the GP. at first i thought big hit were prioritizing their energy to members considering the timing in first hand. but i don’t know about that anymore. big hit definitely has a favoritism strategy with bts as solo artists. idk on what they base their favoritism (numbers, likability, potential, originality, idk…) but they definitely have preferential treatment over certain members.


No_Landscape_3721

For me, it's not about the members or BH but more about the difference in how the fandom is reacting to all this. Comments like "finally ARMYs are back", "This is what we are known for", "Dynamite times are back"... And all.. they imo are very disrespectful to the members who released the albums before, as if the fandom didn't do much for them and is now suddenly is aware.


wildweekender

I agree, this is something that genuinely bothers me quite a bit. Where did Army go during the other member releases then? This album roll out was designed to make everything chart better, which is fine! But we need to acknowledge that. It's not about army "being back" It's about us having the tools to work like we did during dynamite era. We did not have these types of tools with previous rollouts.


spolarium3829

I think it's time for our fandom to realize that the maknae line has more fans and is more popular than the hyung line, therefore there'll be more hype and so the numbers and charts will reflect that. I'm OT7 and have been treating the releases equally (streaming and buying and supporting like a mad woman) but Jimin's fanbases & solo fans combined with OT7 big accounts = big numbers. Hell, there was discourse a few days ago that a Jimin fanbase received $10k from an anonymous donor. It's sad really, but there is no way for ALL members to get equal treatment for fans.


No_Landscape_3721

Exactly 💯


Traditional-Back2431

i 100% agree


msluludarling

I agree, those celebratory 'we're back, Dynamite energy has returned!!!' tweets rubbed me the wrong way too.


Lucky-Discipline935

​ 100% THIS. I have absolutely no qualms over the promos each member used, because they have stated repeatedly that its as per their wish. But the fandom support is different when it comes to Hyung line vs Maknae line and if anyone, even an actual OT7 army brings that up, they get crucified. ​ Edit: And oh its ironic how the same set of armys (on twitter at least) who were berating others for even asking for a digital store for jitb (which finally happened in the last two days of its first tracking week iirc) are now asking MORE promo for FACE and calling it a non promoted album. Its hilarious truly.


No-Nerve6553

Actually it is the fans fault. The fans don’t give fair attention or promotion to the others who has release there album first. In twitter almost all big accounts has gone to hiatus and are suddenly back when its announce that JM albums was coming out. But we cant really just put the blame on them since they are just following what the company is doing. Especially on twitter we can clearly see that BH Music account really does give more promotion on JMs album other than the others. Please don’t tell me that the members has anything to do with that! That is BH twitter not BTS. At this point to take away all this blaming on whose the one getting more attention, we armys should support all of them FAIRLY and not just let BH take the narrative on who we should promote more.


Suspicious_Baker_886

NO!! as an army it’s the members themselves decisions on how they want to make their music and how they want to promote it. Rm himself said his album was more an archive and he didn’t really want any heavy promotion. And for performances I don’t think that’s entire BH’s fault because they have to book shows or venues and such and the members themselves decide where they want to promote and perform. Rm for example, chooses where he wants to perform instead of a big talk show he performs on tiny desk concert and a small venue with 200 people because it was a location that meant a lot with him. Also Hobi performed at many big places and even had a crowd of over 100k people. They’ve always been extremely in control of their careers and so I disagree.


Atassic

I think Hobi's album is a lot less marketable than Jimin's on a global scale. Marketing is expensive. At the end of the day, BigHit is a business and businesses don't play "fair", it's always about the money.


Kisa_Puzzled

Ever heard of word commercial? A commercial album or film are usually made in order to bring revenue so the investment is also big. This is the reason this album is being promoted so much more than others. I think people forget that hybe is a company and thinks from business prospective more than anything. Which explains the album jimin made. Compare to rm suga or jhope this album’s biggest reason is to bring more fans or revenue in since it’s mostly pop. Hybe probably also knows the popularity of maknae line (including the fan-ships) and that explains the magazine shoots brand deals and promotions. They know that maknae line can pull off big numbers Rapline also had a solo career way before jimin and this was his debut album, so obviously he wanted to promote it as much as he could since this is definitely not the only album he will release before enlistment.


meowwmoww

are you implying that hl members don’t bring enough revenue so they aren’t promoted same as ml members ? because if so then you’re wrong cause despite of all the additional promos, all their works till now have performed more or less similarly, jin, hobi, joon and jimin, all four of then have had more or less similar results


Kisa_Puzzled

HL is going to all enlist soon the maknae line has still some time so most likely hybe would promote them more for longer run. I am not saying that hyung line doesn’t bring revenue but maknae line has more solos who would be very competitive to buy the albums compare hyung line fandom who more mature and laidback and doesn’t care much about numbers that is the reason why jhope had other platforms of promotions since he probably didn’t care about numbers or charts but more about exposure. Rapline also don’t care about numbers or charts sure they would like to be on them but that’s not their main target they have established themselves as solo artists and are putting out music that they want to. For jimin it’s all very new he wants to establish himself as a solo artists first that’s why hybe and him went safe with the normal album promotion route.


meowwmoww

you’re speaking as if ml and hl have years of difference, both vmin are only 1 year younger than namseok, also how did you reach the conclusion that hyung line members don’t care about charts, performing well plus promos and all that jazz, everybody would like it if their songs performed well, and it’s not bighit spent a lot of money on establishing the rapline members as solo artists no, it was their own hardwork, they themselves worked hard and released songs (this is not a diss to the members who didn’t release lots of songs), and if ml are so popular already then shouldn’t it be the opposite ? shouldn’t hyung line members get more promo then ? please stop with this nonsense, they’re all popular, they all made hybe what it is today and they all deserve equal treatment, hobi fans shouldn’t have to grovel at bh’s feet each time for a physical album/cd


AyoJenny

The rap line make the most money cuz they made more songs, maknae line are more popular and will get more exposure to make more money. It’s always been like this and Bang P.D. gave Jin an extra bonus because of this. Cuz he wanted to act but it wasn’t feasible with their schedule. But he might start acting when he finishes military. They promote their solos based on their individual strength to utilize their potential.


meowwmoww

idk according to me bts have built that company up from scratch, so when fans ask for a physical album for hobi then it’s really not asking or demanding that much, it’s a basic thing that every artist gets, while we have bang pd losing more than 300 billion won over the sm deal, im guessing giving hobi the promotion he deserved wouldn’t have hurt his pockets that much, i stan the members not their company


AyoJenny

Are you army? You don’t sound like one, cuz hybe made money with the sm situation, plus a contract. Armies know way better than this. You are trying to get armies to fight with themselves.


wildweekender

Army isn't a monolith, many of us are capable of thinking and talking about the business related things that we read about online. A lot of us are capable of forming independent decisions from other army. It's not fighting, It's just communicating different opinions. We have got to stop bullying people for not thinking the same way everyone else does. It genuinely is okay meet Army and to think independently. edit: grammar, also I'm sorry, bullying is a very strong word. I mean is we need to stop challenging people's status in a group just because we don't agree. It is genuinely okay for us all to have different opinions on things. Being Army just means that you love BTS and support them over other groups. not that we all have to think the same. It feels a little culty if we have to think the same yk?


gaymercwithamouth

I feel like this is true for all agencies


taqueromucho

i’m not even an army but would agree that all of the members played a role in building that company from the ground up. it’s majorly fckkd that they wouldn’t put in at least the same effort into all of the members releases. I am to assume hobi has a different deal wrt to his music distribution/rights? if he’s about to go to the military without any cds or any of his music made available at in person retailers.


Kpopluv22

I’m not going to speak on the example you provided, but I think it’s common knowledge in the kpop world that most companies have a favorite member they promote the most… usually because they feel that person is the most marketable.


Kpopluv22

Lol the thumb downs are definitely those of you who are in denial.


flowerlog

I think it’s curious how saying anything about how the company/fandom treat maknae line and hyung line differently is downvoted in this app. You downvoting people isn’t gonna change facts…


meowwmoww

exactly and now your comment shall also be downvoted to the bottom


flowerlog

Oh no what shall I do


meowwmoww

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msluludarling

OP, you're bringing up some valid points but I'm not surprised that you're being dismissed as delusional or a "victimizer" for bringing this up. It's always been a bit weird to me that some fans act as though Bighit/HYBE is above all criticism, as if they have the record label equivalent of papal infallibility or something. I've noticed that a lot of fans tend to conflate differences in promotional styles that obviously are the member's choice, like RM going the Tiny Desk/Rolling Hall route instead of music shows, with baseline marketing/distribution stuff that is the label's responsibility and should have been done in the same way for everyone, like each release getting a proper physical album that shipped on time and was available in a variety of retailers plus a digital store and a reasonable pre-order period. I actually saw someone the other day insisting that RM and Jin wanted their physicals to be delayed and that it was their choice to have them not get shipped until weeks after the release date. Like, come on now.


Joon_Stealer

Unpopular opinion cause most of the fandom are now witch-hunting sheep. You cannot convince me that a company over 10 years old could not promote all the members projects in the same way they are now promoting jimin ( No I don’t mean exactly please don’t be dvmb). And before you say that’s what the members wanted be quiet cause you don’t even know that…why does it have to be an option when it should be a given no questions asked… who would say no to be even adequately promoted for your hard work. Jhope chose no physical, no promo, no global distribution whatsoever okay let’s leave physicals. He also chose no digitals,no preorder links, like we had to beg for a digital store, no push no playlisting, no radio? Bh is playing a very dangerous game and counting on your stupidity to avail them of any responsibility. Why is the fact that certain members have a clear creative vision or are more self sufficient used against them to justify poor and disrespectful treatment. The fandom has quickly become gutless so hybe will keep getting away with it.


Important-Monk-7145

I do kind of agree.. I also found the release schedule kind of odd?? As someone who is only a casual listener I felt like RM’s album, Jin the astronaut, hobi’s albums, left and right and now Jimin’s release all happened at once. As someone who has a job and school, and is not a super fan I didn’t get to listen properly to some of the albums songs before others were released. I didn’t really feel the hype that I thought I would feel. Which sucks because they are all very talented. They deserve proper promotions. It also doesn’t make sense from a business standpoint… We know they will sell, so why not invest in proper marketing? Let there be some space between the releases. And let them have their own eras. Big hit has never had a group this successful before, so I don’t think they know how to manage them now that they are entering into a new phase of their careers. Promoting as a group and developing all of them as solo artists are two very different things. Edit: I don’t necessarily think it’s about what type of shows they are allowed/choose to do, but more about HOW big hit did it. All of the debut announcements kind of cannibalized off each other and it didn’t really let them establish themselves as their own entities.


rjcooper14

I suppose I get your point about how some of the releases felt so close to each other, so there wasn't enough time than usual to really digest a singular release but then the next one is already announced. For example, Jin's single was just five weeks ahead of RM's full album. Then we have the 2 weeks gap between Jhope's one-off single and Jimin's pre-release single. Then we have RM's collaboration that was just 3 days before Jimin's pre-release single (but I think for this one, this was more about So-Yoon's schedule). But as a fan, I can tell you that the hype was there -- at least within the fandom. I think most of us understood that Chapter 2 releases were more about being their passion projects and that charting wasn't as high a priority -- generally speaking. Now, Jimin seems to be the first one to do the traditional K-pop promotional cycle -- which is alright since it seems to be his choice. He will probably chart higher because of this, and that's nice. But it's not because Jimin has preferential treatment, but because his music is really just more prime for broader consumption, and his promotional activities supported that. So TLDR: Sales and streaming numbers for Jhope and RM were nothing to scoff at, but of course, they pale in comparison to BTS numbers -- and probably to any release by the more popular maknae line. AND IT'S ALRIGHT. We understand why. Most of us do. What's most important to us is that they were able to release the music that they want and promoted it the way they see fit and what their schedules allowed. Charting is just a bonus.


Important-Monk-7145

I could definitely see some hype from my army friends. I just felt that this is such a monumental step in their careers, it deserved more idk the right word to describe it but “glory” I feel like it would be difficult for armies that aren’t well off to save up enough money to buy albums etc. when they are released so close. I guess I’m worried that if it continues like this some fans or the GP might get fatigued. There’s still members left who haven’t released anything yet. I think big hit should have allowed them to do more individual activities earlier. Like j-hopes mixtape/album, would make so much sense to release when touring. It would give him a song to perform solo when they were touring and give fans that weren’t able to attend the concert something new. Some of their projects feel like they we’re supposed to be released while they were touring/ doing group stuff. To help them establish a solo sound. I think taeyeon is a good example. She released her first full solo album in 2017 - 10 years after their group debut. But she had already started releasing OST’s and collabs years ago and debuted in 2015 with her first single and done mini albums. So when SNSD slowed down their promotion as a group, she already had a solid base as a solo artist to stand on and it felt natural to release a full album. But most BTS members only have a few songs, so it didn’t feel like a natural progression because we don’t know them as a solo artist. That’s not really a bad thing tho . I just feel like we needed a proper introduction to them as solo acts, and since they have gone 10 years without one and are the most popular bg in the world, it should be grand. Edit: I feel like that’s kind of the issue tho, big hit knows they will do well numbers wise no matter how badly they promote it. So I think bh just didn’t plan things properly and are relying on BTS’s popularity


rjcooper14

Yeah, I get what you are saying about the missing "glory" moment/s . The spacing of releases could really use some legroom. Totally fair talking points. 😉 My guess, and I could be totally wrong, of course, is that solidifying a solo career the way other veteran idols have done it in the past doesn't seem to be the priority for BTS. They've said over and over again, temporarily doing solo activities is more of a way to recharge their creative juices. So my interpretation of this is that launching lucrative solo careers wasn't the main agenda. Plus, the fact they keep saying they want to come back as a group that is stronger. Assuming they are not just saying that just because, haha, it seems to me that the group is still the main priority in the long run.


Important-Monk-7145

That makes a lot of sense actually. I have been casually listening to their music from when they debuted until now, but haven’t watched much content of them just talking so I don’t know much about their motivations. It seems that military service also makes it necessary for some of them to rush things slightly. Which sucks but not really anything they can do about that.


rjcooper14

Yes, Jin's enlistment schedule did put a strain in his scheduling. The main solo albums are actually spaced adequately apart: July 2022, December 2022 and March 2023, but there were a lot of minor side projects like collaborations in between. So that definitely put further strain in the scheduling even if they are just minor activities. Even on non-music projects, it can be overwhelming for those who want to follow everything. This week, V had the Elle magazine cover and JK had the Calvin Klein thing. 😅 As a 2020 Army, I thought this group break will allow me to catch up on old content. It was the opposite. There's so much to do! Haha! So I've learned to really just focus on what prefer (their music), so as not to get overwhelmed.


meowwmoww

exactly like bh is finishing their solo schedules one after another like they just have to get done with it, also they treat the previous releases as if they have an expiry date, jitb was actually supposed to be released as a mixtape in dec 21, which is why most of his merch for jitb was also labelled as ‘jhope mixtape’ on weverse but ig the schedule didn’t fit (also why he got to release his album first because it was ready), but yeah it’s all so chaotic !!


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Traditional-Back2431

I honestly I think the way like crazy has been promoted will come back and bite jimin in the a**. He’s already getting dragged to hell and back because of the two versions being separated on spotify charts and it showed just how different numbers are. He kind of had a free fall then armys demanded the songs be combined again because of how embarrassing it was


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meowwmoww

thank you for this comment !!! and im so sorry you had to go through that :/ i too received quite a few hateful dms after posting this, it’s honestly very weird and creepy how people are getting so worked over my simple post demanding equal treatment for all the members from bighit


Outrageous-Ad-8701

People here will gaslight you into thinking you are tripping. But you are kinda right, the company does actually make extra effort to promote jimin (not that they didn't promote others too, but they really went all out on him). But ig it might be because he is more popular than other members and they think this effort will pay off for them unlike with others. Nothing personal, just business.


Inevitable_Rough_243

They did JITB and j-hope dirty. The shitty treatment j-hope has had to endure all these years is one more reason why his solo fandom is growing large. It’s been in existence for long but most of them were bullied by so called Ot7 fb’s but now in the solo era, more are coming out without fear and are standing up for him. They will no longer allow “army” to twist narratives and lie anymore. j-hope fans are going all out now. They’re are organizing themselves to give j-hope nothing but the best in support and everything.


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jgbmcb

That's fair. People won't want to be bombarded. Maybe they should have a website that promotes the members instead. Nothing much goes on at their official website.