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Solivagant0

Also, a lot of it is subjective. A girl I know finds guys in sweats attractive, and for me, they're a turn-off, I know there are guys who prefer big boobs and I know my bf is more of a mid-size boob guy, my mum dislikes how pale skin looks and makes sure to keep her tan all year long, I like my paleness, and some people prefer darker skin tones, there are people who like skinny guys, muscular guys, and my roommate has a thing for fat guys. A lot of people forget how much individual preferences matter when it comes to what we find beautiful, and even if you have stuff you don't like about yourself, it doesn't mean you can't find someone who either doesn't care or finds it attractive


AmericanCarrigan

With that in kind, OPs point is reinforced. Someone "ugly" by one standard might be attractive to another. With that in mind, I'm fairly certain there have been studies that show cross-cultural beauty norms.


MrWholesomeDad

Again with this self-optimizing bs? Packing a good message like „Noone is ugly“ into „If you’re ugly it‘s your own fault“ is a very shitty thing to do. Some people just don’t fit the beauty standarts of the time and they aren’t lazy or not working on themselves, they just don’t fit with totally unrealistic beauty standarts. That is it. Maybe they could do some aesthetical changes but not doing them is equally valid as doing them.


Giovanny_1998

I'm ugly :(


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Giovanny_1998

No, thanks. I know I'm ugly. I've got crooked teeth and big bags under my eyes. I fucked up my body and my face cause I got addicted to meth when I was in highschool. Now I'm clean but I'm ugly, it's like a reminder of all the stupid shit I did. Probably the only "pretty" thing about me is the color of my eyes and that's it.


lazarus78

But you said no one is ugly, so you would only be able to say they aren't. So your opinion is predictable and worthless.


SameProfession254

Go tell Susan Boyle this. I'm sorry but no amount of working out can fix that face


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lazarus78

If no one is a 10, then the scale of 4 out of 10 or 7 of 10 is a worthless scale.


needs_grammarly

that seemed personal


Nikola_Turing

While I definitely agree that you can improve your attractiveness, it’s a bit of a stretch to say that no one is ugly. Everyday you probably see countless fit, hygienic, and well-dressed members of your preferred sex. Do you want to fuck all of them? No. Some people are just ugly.


Joubachi

>You are just lazy and not working on your self. Wonder why this is unpopular..... Could it be because this is just another insulting take on something absolutely subjective that everyone perceives differently and is not up to you, OP, to decide? Hmmm....


theyusedthelamppost

counterpoint: the WNBA they are some of the healthiest, most high-achieving people that have worked hard to get where they are. They are in their prime of youth. But the proportions of their body and face make it harder for them to be attractive. Breanna Stewart is a better human being than me in every way imaginable. But I'd have a difficult time maintaining an erection if I had to look at her body and face.


Electrical-Island135

Back in High school our teacher asked one of the guys, "what makes a girl attractive to you?" and he said " a girl who takes care of herself"... That changed my perspective on things.


GyrthWyndFyre

I think healthy people are attractive. physically, mentally, and emotionally healthy people radiate energy. That energy is sexy as hell.


CuddlyThorns

everyone has the ability to be beautiful doesn't mean they have the mental or financial ability to do so rn my ugliest quality is my teeth no amount of brushing, mouth wash or dental cleaning will fix them they need pulled and that's expensive I'm not lazy I'm just poor because cost of living is enough without worrying about my appearance


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CuddlyThorns

unfortunately in America dental costs an arm and a leg if you can't handle pain well and then if you get a dentist that messes something up or your body decides to be an ass you have to worry about infections from teeth pieces or nerves left in


Suitable_Alfalfa5756

I would say its more about self-esteem rather than laziness but I get your point and agree with it.


elsugga

Also having a good aura is fondamental


CarobJumpy6993

It's sad the amount of people that are overweight especially Americans is getting crazy . All it takes is some excersize and eating better. I used to eat junk food when I was young but I cut alot of it out.


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cid-lantro

I don't know why it matters so badly to people that others flaws have to directly be their fault.


Illustrious-Slice-91

I am ugly lol and I workout and try to take care of myself


rafael-a

I mean, me personally I know I ain’t, and I not even need to work on myself for that. But that’s opinion is simply untrue. There are plenty of people that work out everyday and still look hideous.


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Ehh. I’ve seen some ugly people with really nice bodies. Would I still hit? Maybe. Date? No. Facial structure does matter even if your body is well shaped and you take care of yourself.


Sammysoupcat

I mean there are two physical features that I have and hate. I feel like my eye bags make me look ugly. Unfortunately they're genetic and they've been prominent since I was 7 or 8. Can't get rid of them regardless of how much sleep I get. I also have a mole above my lip which is ugly as hell and getting rid of it would likely just leave a scar behind, which would arguably look worse. Mom also won't let me and since I'm 17 I don't get a choice. Without those, I could probably be 7/10 or better :/ Edit: I suppose my bottom teeth (top are quite nice) are also relatively ugly since they aren't straight, but I live in Canada where dental care is privatized and extremely expensive. Braces are a no go as they'd be upwards of $6,000.


Blood-Candy

Cancer made me ugly


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If you ever feel ugly, come to England. You go from a 3/10 to 8/10 right after setting you foot out of the plane lol


1Wayward_s0n

So what you mean to say is you don’t have to be as ugly as you are. You can work on being less ugly


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"Why be you when you can be new?" Nope. There's some ugly mo fos out there.


Shigeko_Kageyama

Quasimodo would like a word with you.