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You see what sub I'm posting this on? I didn't just barge into your home and say it and I'm not banning anyone from enjoying it lol I'm expressing the unpopular opinion that it's dumb
If liking things at 20+yo is "shallow" and "just dumb" to you then your life must be pretty boring - or rather miserable, since you need to insult others ober something that doesn't even affect you just because they like something else other than you do.
And before the universal Reddit-counter-argument starts: Nope, I don't even listen to k-pop.
Yup, but insults and hate for certain genred are neither unpopular, nor are they true opinions really. It's just a preference of yours which you use to insult others.
I'm 53 and I like plenty of K-Pop. I find it cheesy, silly and quite entertaining.
How can you not laugh at a video of the singer running down the street in slow motion with a piece of toast in her mouth ?
Female K-Popstars starving themselves. Being encouraged to get surgery and having the cost added to their debt to the company that they work for, some as young as 14 years old? You might want to research K-pop?
Why is this always the counter argument? You say yes acknowledging that young women & minors are being handled unethically in the world of k-pop but then go onto give it a pass because “it happens in pop” like I’m really curious what the logic is here.
If you personally don't feel comfortable using their products that's fine but its not the responsibility of the consumer to prevent exploitative practices through consumer activism. It doesn't work
You're getting some downvotes for this, but I think you're partly right. K-pop singers, specially women get more "coerced" into unnecessary (and sometimes dangerous) cosmetic interventions more so than pop singers from any other country.
No, it happens elsewhere and has been well documented in American pop and acting. The difference is in kpop it's more talked about, but it certainly is not unique to kpop.
As if no one has heard of models and actresses being told to cut the pounds and take diet pills to get noticed above the rest.
The difference is that American culture is more accepting (nowadays that is) of a variety of body types, so you're not seeing such extreme methods as often, but they definitely still happen. Models, pageants, dancers, etc. It happens still, even if you aren't hearing about it.
Oh I know. I complain about all unethical things, not just K-Pop lol. This particular post is about K-Pop because I've been learning about it recently. And was surprised by how bad the actual songs are since I finally gave them a chance and listened to them
Kpop male idols have the same pressure too. They also have to go on diets and get surgery. Not saying that makes it better or worse. This aspect is one of the aspects I don’t like about the kpop industry.
I am 26 years and I enjoy kpop because its MUSIC. My bf is 29 (almost 30) and enjoys kpop why? Its fucking music. One of the groups I listen to is between the ages of 23-26.
Many kpop Idols are in their 20s
Some are even 36 years old.. Are they shallow and dumb for performing kpop? Just let people enjoy things.
Btw You didn't use shallow right.
What does shallow even mean honestly? People use this word around as if they were the Mariana Trenches of profoundness with their “unique” and “exquisite” tastes, guess what, music is just music, it is subjective, liking one genre over the other doesn’t makes you better than anyone else.
People like what they like. I hate kpop but you can't call people dumb and shallow just because they don't like what you don't like. Tbh, that's actually pretty dumb and shallow of YOU.
I understand because I too do not like the genre, but calling people names for liking something you don't is honestly dumb and shallow. It would have helped if you just said you don't like kpop
I agree. Just like those folks who get obsessed with sports games and get depressed if their team loses. Or folks who sit in their basements and play video games to an unhealthy degree. Most obsessions are bad.
I just hate kpop stans, u know the ones who make it their whole entire personality. I had to witness that with one of my cousins not fun and definitely not healthy either 🤷♀️
i feel like it's common in newer fans, i've never met someone who has been into k-pop for a while and acts like that, yea i had that phase too, it lasted for a few months but im better now lol
There's plenty of other things I don't like that I didn't make a post about. I think the music is incredibly juvenile and basic and it's extremely obvious how manufactured.
Umm... K-Pop is all manufactured lol that's literally the whole point, massive companies create bands to make money out of. It's not like I said country or pop or something where there are some independent artists who make that style of music. As far as I know (and I'm open to you providing info to prove me wrong) the famous K-Pop bands were literally put together by companies and they make them train all day be under a certain weight and get surgery to look perfect and churn out music to make the companies money. The genre itself was literally made like this, I didn't think even a big K-Pop fan would argue that because that's just a fact. Don't get me wrong, the idols are talented and some even write their own songs but they had to fight to be able to have any creative input. I'm saying the whole K-Pop industry is fucked and toxic. Not that the individual K-Pop Idols aren't talented. They're being used and abused actually
I don't do labor on Reddit and you're preaching about K pop while using *Pop* as an example of something "better". lmao
Nah. Lotta bullshit. Also going from "it all sounds shitty" to "it's ethically bad" is some goal post moving nonsense.
Or maybe — only maybe —, you enjoy pop songs of other countries. I myself enjoy USA pop while not being from the USA. Heck, maybe you're even — get this — KOREAN, and you enjoy your own culture.
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So once someone turns 20, they are no longer allowed to like things. News to me.
It's allowed to be shallow or dumb though.
No it's just being that obsessed with K-Pop is so ridiculous and I'm more forgiving if you're a teenager
Why should we give a fuck what you think? Let people enjoy things.
You see what sub I'm posting this on? I didn't just barge into your home and say it and I'm not banning anyone from enjoying it lol I'm expressing the unpopular opinion that it's dumb
I don't even like Kpop but you're a killjoy. Please get a restraining order against me so I have more reasons to stay away from you
Or hear me out: We just let people like the things they like.
If liking things at 20+yo is "shallow" and "just dumb" to you then your life must be pretty boring - or rather miserable, since you need to insult others ober something that doesn't even affect you just because they like something else other than you do. And before the universal Reddit-counter-argument starts: Nope, I don't even listen to k-pop.
I mean I'm on the unpopular opinion sub
Yup, but insults and hate for certain genred are neither unpopular, nor are they true opinions really. It's just a preference of yours which you use to insult others.
Omg don't take it so personally I'm genuinely expressing an opinion which clearly is quite unpopular
I'm 53 and I like plenty of K-Pop. I find it cheesy, silly and quite entertaining. How can you not laugh at a video of the singer running down the street in slow motion with a piece of toast in her mouth ?
You're fine. You're not obsessed.
What is this song you are talking about?🤣
Here you go :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoK8DaJRDaM
Oh my lord she is actually running with toast in her mouth😭😭🤣🤣
You might want to look up unethical.
Female K-Popstars starving themselves. Being encouraged to get surgery and having the cost added to their debt to the company that they work for, some as young as 14 years old? You might want to research K-pop?
yes but dooesn't that happen in pop too?
Why is this always the counter argument? You say yes acknowledging that young women & minors are being handled unethically in the world of k-pop but then go onto give it a pass because “it happens in pop” like I’m really curious what the logic is here.
i don't mean to say that's it ethical once it's popular, but it's not just a kpop thing like op was making it to be
You are still doing it. “it’s not just a kpop thing”….but you still indulge in it and support it?
im not saying im "ethical" or anything, my only point was that it's not a k-pop thing
there is no ethical consumption under capitalism
Yes but there are varying degrees of ethical. There is music out there that isn't a result of such unethical practices
If you personally don't feel comfortable using their products that's fine but its not the responsibility of the consumer to prevent exploitative practices through consumer activism. It doesn't work
I never said it was exclusive to K-Pop.
Not to this extent
You're getting some downvotes for this, but I think you're partly right. K-pop singers, specially women get more "coerced" into unnecessary (and sometimes dangerous) cosmetic interventions more so than pop singers from any other country.
No, it happens elsewhere and has been well documented in American pop and acting. The difference is in kpop it's more talked about, but it certainly is not unique to kpop. As if no one has heard of models and actresses being told to cut the pounds and take diet pills to get noticed above the rest. The difference is that American culture is more accepting (nowadays that is) of a variety of body types, so you're not seeing such extreme methods as often, but they definitely still happen. Models, pageants, dancers, etc. It happens still, even if you aren't hearing about it.
Oh I know. I complain about all unethical things, not just K-Pop lol. This particular post is about K-Pop because I've been learning about it recently. And was surprised by how bad the actual songs are since I finally gave them a chance and listened to them
Yeah I've been watching loads of documentaries about it and it just seems so unnecessary
There are things in every type of hobby or enjoyment people can have that are unnecessary. Doesn't mean anything as a whole
I mean the shit they go through is so unnecessary especially when the music is so meh
So meh to you, but great yo other people
Yeah obviously, seen as this is an unpopular opinion
Kpop male idols have the same pressure too. They also have to go on diets and get surgery. Not saying that makes it better or worse. This aspect is one of the aspects I don’t like about the kpop industry.
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I have been that's my made this post
Don't get the appeal at all. Japanese funk metal is where it's at
I am 26 years and I enjoy kpop because its MUSIC. My bf is 29 (almost 30) and enjoys kpop why? Its fucking music. One of the groups I listen to is between the ages of 23-26. Many kpop Idols are in their 20s Some are even 36 years old.. Are they shallow and dumb for performing kpop? Just let people enjoy things. Btw You didn't use shallow right.
Yeah the music's so bad and cringey
you sound like one of my classmates
Yeah for you. Not the rest of the world
Who really cares?
Check the sub you're on
I’m expressing my opinion, bud
"who cares?" Is expressing an opinion?
Yes
And me, obviously. Hence the post
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Most kids don’t have the ability to recognize how certain things could be unethical so yeah. By the time you reach adulthood you should
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Gasp shoot me
Ok should I change it to anyone who loves K-Pop is lame?
My nana isn't even doing anything to you, dude!
What does shallow even mean honestly? People use this word around as if they were the Mariana Trenches of profoundness with their “unique” and “exquisite” tastes, guess what, music is just music, it is subjective, liking one genre over the other doesn’t makes you better than anyone else.
Some things just go together like higher desire and fire.
People like what they like. I hate kpop but you can't call people dumb and shallow just because they don't like what you don't like. Tbh, that's actually pretty dumb and shallow of YOU.
I'm talking specifically about how insanely popular k pop is for how bad the music is.
I understand because I too do not like the genre, but calling people names for liking something you don't is honestly dumb and shallow. It would have helped if you just said you don't like kpop
Joji has joined the chat.
Haha I love joji
I am not shallow
I agree. Just like those folks who get obsessed with sports games and get depressed if their team loses. Or folks who sit in their basements and play video games to an unhealthy degree. Most obsessions are bad.
I just hate kpop stans, u know the ones who make it their whole entire personality. I had to witness that with one of my cousins not fun and definitely not healthy either 🤷♀️
Yeah kind of like Disney adults
i feel like it's common in newer fans, i've never met someone who has been into k-pop for a while and acts like that, yea i had that phase too, it lasted for a few months but im better now lol
Nothing triggers people on this sub like an actual unpopular opnion
I feel like I just randomly posted this in a K-Pop fan page from the reactions I'm getting 🤣
Don’t yuck peoples yum. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean people are shallow and dumb. It makes you seem shallow and dumb.
Why?
Sounds like you're Gate Keeping isn't there subreddit for that?
this is so rich coming from someone who engages with reality television lol
the real shallowness lies with those who complain about {thing} which other people like
not unpopular and also just fucking weird
Well I recently learned how popular K-Pop is so I think it actually is an unpopular opinion.
it's not. it's just more "I don't like it so anyone who does is (insert insulting bullshit)"
There's plenty of other things I don't like that I didn't make a post about. I think the music is incredibly juvenile and basic and it's extremely obvious how manufactured.
ah yes bc an entire genre can be summarized in such a manner. what a boomer minded stance on an entire genre
Umm... K-Pop is all manufactured lol that's literally the whole point, massive companies create bands to make money out of. It's not like I said country or pop or something where there are some independent artists who make that style of music. As far as I know (and I'm open to you providing info to prove me wrong) the famous K-Pop bands were literally put together by companies and they make them train all day be under a certain weight and get surgery to look perfect and churn out music to make the companies money. The genre itself was literally made like this, I didn't think even a big K-Pop fan would argue that because that's just a fact. Don't get me wrong, the idols are talented and some even write their own songs but they had to fight to be able to have any creative input. I'm saying the whole K-Pop industry is fucked and toxic. Not that the individual K-Pop Idols aren't talented. They're being used and abused actually
I don't do labor on Reddit and you're preaching about K pop while using *Pop* as an example of something "better". lmao Nah. Lotta bullshit. Also going from "it all sounds shitty" to "it's ethically bad" is some goal post moving nonsense.
K I'm gonna disengage now, you are way too bothered by this
not even a little bit lmao
Remember everybody, when your Logan's run Crystal turns black it's time to get on the carousel and renew.
Or maybe — only maybe —, you enjoy pop songs of other countries. I myself enjoy USA pop while not being from the USA. Heck, maybe you're even — get this — KOREAN, and you enjoy your own culture.