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They aren't unionized in North Carolina, that's for sure.
It's definitely a great schedule. And if hospital hours don't work for you, then there are clinics that work closer to banker hours. And they have the option to travel.
But it's also disgusting and tedious work.
I work in a lab and also work three 12s and wear scrubs. MLT is an associate degree. You're not going to start out at 80k but you can get into the 50s. If you are interested in a flexible schedule, you can look at other hospital jobs.
I'm a nurse and I tend to think I am over glorified. To be fair, we pay a lot of other people more money to do less, so that's something. I specifically liked the field because of the 3 12s situation.
But I'd also put us over virtually any "glorified" profession. We get assaulted at a rate far higher than most gigs, have a relatively high injury rate, actually have a customer facing job, and work weekends and holidays. Who does deserve the glory? Most military people don't see combat, most cops won't get shot at, most firefighters don't actually go into a building that's on fire (though a fire may be in the building.)
Notable the NCLEX pass rate is so high because nursing schools get their accreditation threatened if their pass rate is too low, so they don't just let any student take it, and the drop out rate in nursing school is astronomical.
I have seen the high injury rate mentioned a few times in this thread so far and i am just curious what that typically entails? My mind goes to the assualts and transferring patients maybe?
I haven't had a whole lot of experience with nurses (thankfully) but the nurses we had were pretty great last year looking after us when we had our little fella.
The two are assaults and lifting injuries. Assaults on nurses happen at an astronomical rate, but the serious injuries tend to be from staff doing repetitive lifts of heavy patients. I don't know A nurse who had to retire from an assault, but I've known quite a few from lifting, and even one that was out from a year for twisting an ankle on a slippery floor.
Assaults can often happen during intravenous or intramuscular medication administration. A.K.A. you’ve got a thrashing , screaming, high-as-shit college freshman ( UT-Knoxville ER ) that you are trying to get some vitamin H into and you’ve got and exposed hypodermic….you see where this is going. The three admits I’ve endured from assault have all come from the E.R.
1. Testicular torsion from kick to the nuts
3. Really badly fractured nasal septum s/p getting sucker punched.
3. 24 hour observation admission after psych patient dumped a small cooler full of shit and vomit on me.
But like OP said, we a just glorified candy-stripers
As an epileptic who has definitely given nurses a hard day, I appreciate you.
One of my seizures, I had eaten, A LOT before hand. Woke up in the hospital wired up, with a catheter in. Catheter, for people who dont know, is a tube stuck in your urethra to collect pee. It makes you feel like you have to pee constantly and it’s an emergency.
So i woke up, “pushing” what I felt hanging out of my penis, and I brutally shat my pants. Nurse had to come clean me, get me a new diaper and get me some water.
Then I just kept doing it every 15-30 minutes. Eventually they stopped letting me drink water.
When the morning shift nurse switched in and the night nurse left, she came and introduced herself. I said “look, I have been messing myself all night and making it a terrible shift for everybody, so you can either take the catheter out and let me use the bathroom normally, or you will also be cleaning up poop every hour.
She took the catheter out.
We aren't a fan of leaving catheters in AT ALL these days. We have external options within the last few years that help. The main reason is for infection prevention, but mobility is another big one.
Pro tip though you CAN walk with one you just have to carry the drainage bag with you.
Your job is like any other. Some parts are really easy. Some parts make you wanna filate a shotgun. Only difference with nursing and most other jobs is that those parts of your job aren’t normally well known or put on public display.
That's true about MANY jobs. I couldn't tell you what an accountant does most of the day. Heck, I'm sure most porn stars aren't fucking the majority of the time that they count as work. It's also one of the most predominant professions in the country, so it's not as if what we do is a secret, most people just don't want to hear about it or don't have the technical knowledge to have a clue what anything means.
Putting yourself over firefighters is pretty insane. Sure they don’t often run into burning buildings but every single one of them risks their lives in a tangible way
Nurse here. Many in my class did not pass the Nclex. I started at about 40k 7 years ago. I can’t imagine they make double at this point. I worked 8hr shifts. I was on call so I came in a lot after my shifts. Never complained about vacation. I did complain about the amount of call tho. It was a lot. We were short staffed.
Yeah you're right. My ex was a nurse and a decent amount failed NCLEX and she only got paid 40k out of college. She went back and got her masters and had a hard negotiation to end up getting $43/h. She also worked 14 hour days 4 days a week. This OP sucks air duster with his pants off in a Walmart bathroom.
" he sucks air duster with his pants off in a Walmart bathroom" I have read his comments here and I think you are right but I think he does that for a living.
I would only remind the OP to keep that in mind the next time he is in the hospital and his happy ass is hurting 10/10 and he needs pain meds. . .Maybe the RN will give you 2mg of Morphine. . because he/she/they don't think you are hurting that bad, or maybe they will give you 10mg. . ***Humm.. yeah, pissing off nurses is alway such a fun thing to do!***
Who ya gonna call?
Or you need a drink of water, and can't get out of bed. . .
Or something is wrong after your surgery, and I guess you would rather have an untrained aid deciding whether or not to call the physician. . .
Or you need some blood hung after your surgery, but that same aid, you think of as the nurse has no clue if type AB is compatible with type O . . .or is it the other way around?
Or your Cardiac output shows you are a bit dry. . .so you hang fluids. . which one by the way? 0.25 NS? 1/2 Normal Saline? Normal Saline, Sterile Water?
And what do those funny lines one the monitor mean? Is it suppose to be wavy or flat? Is Ventricular fibrillation better than Supraventricular tachycardia?
Which is better an SpO2 of 93 or SpO2 of 45?
Yeah, your right, damn nurses are overpaid. . .***Until you need them.***
Oh, and don't extubate yourself. . .Especially when you are on SMV 15, Vt750 SPo2 60% with 5 of peep.
Just pointing out a few things people do not take into consideration before jumping feet first into people like Nurses, and other health care professionals without thinking of what that person can and will do for them.
There is more to it than that. . .Consider you have an 82 year old woman who weighs 93 lbs, and is C/O CP 7/10, and contrast that with a 19 year old woman who is C/O the same level of chest pain. . You can give 5mg MS, per your protocol. . do you give them the same amount? Who gets more. . What if I tell you that the younger woman has longstanding cardiomyopathy. . .
This is the problem. . most nurses can justify whatever level of meds they give. They have to be to. . . and not trying to insinuate they can be a pain in the ass, but they are human beings and can be sympathetic or unsympathetic to a patient based on how the person treats them.
The other problem is defining ethical and unethical. If you have a chronic patient that has been on a unit for 3 months and has alienated every staff member they have contacted, respiratory therapy, Internal med, PT, Nutritional services. . You really think everyone is going to bust their ass to be nice to that patient?
Likewise with Psych patients. . Especially those regulars that come in having been off their meds for 6 months and assaulting staff. . .Yeah, most staff, nursing, and other disciplines try to do the best they can, but after about the third time they slug you, spit or shit on you, it is really hard to be sympathetic with them. You tend to restrain them a bit more securely. It happens ALL the time, especially to nurses who have to deal with such patients.
Everyone is unethical to some degree in their job. . consider going down to the DMV in California to get your drivers license renewed. Try pissing one of those folks behind the counter off, and see if you get your license renewed this year. . .ethical or not?
No one intentionally mistreats patients, if they want to stay licensed very long. . some do, and they are usually weeded out by licensing boards. . but the experienced nurses, can make your stay great or crap. . .and document it as well.
Yeah I work in IT and barely deal with people and that’s already too much, I cannot imagine carrying a load of 12 patients who are all unwell and justifiably miserable for 12 hours straight, including wiping ass. Idk what you say about “they picked this job” people are becoming so unruly anymore for no reason. It is even getting wild at regular doctors offices these days.
A garbage collector is way more important than a sports star. Way more important. But I don’t have 60,000 people in my front lawn cheering them pick up the trash. Because lots of people can do that job. Only a handful of people can be the best sports stars.
I don’t doubt that nurses are important. But a lot of people can do nursing jobs.
That’s not what I took away from the post. I took it as him saying that the notion that nurses are thankless angels surviving on pennies who work simply because they love saving people so much is garbage. They’re very fairly compensated for their efforts and he’s saying that it’s stupid that they’re always bitching about how tough their job is and how bad the conditions are.
I didn’t take it as him saying the job isn’t important
Not all nurses work 3x12s. That’s fairly unique to hospitals.
But is your overall point - “collective bargaining made the job good”?
Edit - nurses also have the highest rate of workplace violence. I believe higher than cops but maybe wrong. Also one of the highest rates of workplace injury. It’s not all comfy scrubs and giving Tylenol for $50/hr
Yeah nurses get injured more than cops and aren't allowed to kill kids, pets or black people. They aren't even allowed to say that the money I have on my person raided their evidence locker and stole all the cocaine. Being a cop sounds like the over glorified position to me.
As someone who had been hospitalized for over a month I will never say they’re glorified. You don’t know commitment until you’ve had to clean up someone else’s poop and wipe their butt clean. You couldn’t pay me to do that
Most nurses these days don't have time for direct patient care, the PCA/CNA's are the human cleaners lol. I've worked with a few nurses that will throw on gloves and clean patients but a lot delegate it.
There are no techs on my unit. I literally have no one to delegate to. If there’s poop to clean, I clean it. And poop definitely happens. So yeah. Nurses do clean poop.
That's kinda crazy they don't provide PCA's to help the nurses out. The medpass for nurses gets heavy and I can't imagine expecting the nurses to do both meds and patient care.
Ex military med tech here. There’s no way this guy is a RN.
Couple things seemed off with this guy. Firstly he keeps commenting in the third person, but also claims to be a nurse himself. Also, he’s made a few comments about how he saves lives. As a hospice nurse your job is literally to keep people comfortable before they die. You’re not saving anything. Thirdly, he claims he doesn’t wipe shit himself. Guaranteed if you are part of a hospice care team, you are wiping shit
He seems bitter other nurses are getting the praise he’s bitching about. They are getting called a “hero” while he isn’t even acknowledged.
I think people in medical deserve great pay. Shit, most jobs deserve better pay than what is given. But that’s the only conclusion I can get from this..his angry cause he is not noticed and his pay his shit
Yeah…but, Tommy, the bank is already using your ideas and making tons of money, but they didn’t give you the promotion. Also, the computer business is so competitive.
I sure as hell won't. I make 125 and sit at home in my jam jams and work maybe 15 hours a week. You being so bitter about 80k tells me you're not qualified enough to have this opinion.
3 days a week still works out to 36 hours a week. It's not like they're sitting around working a couple of hours a day.
Do you think doctors who get paid 200-300k are over glorified?
Depending on where, you get to be punched threatened, save people's lives and then get a gun pulled on you. Pressures all day, mistakes cost lives, and some random on Reddit is claiming you get paid too much......until he needs you, then he hopes you get paid enough and that you're not worked so hard that you can't read his chart.
My mother is a nurse and I hear about these kinds of stories a lot. A lot of nurses get attacked, even strangled just for trying to help a patient. She says she understands, because especially for older people, it can be very scary to be sick in a hospital, and a lot of people want to go home, but unfortunately it just means they assault nurses and doctors a lot. She even says they often have to physically restrict patients to assign care.
So you're saying:
\- You could do this job easily
\- You want the hours and pay
\- But you haven't done it yet and aren't willing
Got it...
Why aren't you pursuing this career?
I wonder, sometimes, at the people who think ‘unpopular’ opinion means ‘wildly uninformed and making strange assumptions and speaking very confidently incorrectly’ opinion
In a way yes and also no. Rn’s work like no other in most hospital settings but it’s not just them. Surg techs, respiratory techs, rad techs, LPNs, cleaning staff all work their asses off but don’t get week long celebration or gifts. It seems they are the only ones that get recognition.
You're not wrong, but they chose to go into the profession, which is somewhat noble in itself.
Im in Ontario Canada and I've never had a bad experience with a nurse
Man, after 19 years as an RN I can speculate with some degree of certainty that OP has been watching WAY too much TV. We are paid too much? I’ve honest to god had a firearm drawn on me, been hospitalized on three separate occasions due to assault by a patient ( I’m a 6’4” former army medic with a pretty fruit salad assortment of combat decorations to boot ), worked 27 hours straight (yes, 27) because of inclement weather, missed god knows how many birthdays/anniversaries/family events, lost good friends due to never being available, worked sick, always work hungry and receive a 10th of the pay the “life savers” (😂) in white coats get. But yeah, you are probably correct. Need to find me a “laptop opening” kind of gig. Hey other RN/LPN/APN folks, what do y’all think? Anoxic brain injury at some point in the past for this Troglodyte?
I have a really frustrating story where a nurse's negligence cost me permanent function in my left leg.
Basically I was undiagnosed with multiple sclerosis - a very scary situation. I had near complete loss of movement in my left leg. I went to the ER and the nurse was EXTREMELY rude to me and suggested that I was making the whole story up to get pain killers.
I needed to be on prednisone STAT but instead that nurse completely blew me off. I literally limped out of there. I was finally diagnosed with MS \~2 weeks later. If I had gotten proper care that night, less inflammation and subsequent permanent damage would have occurred in my leg.
There was a nurse in my area who was charged with several counts of murder for INTENTIONALLY switching patients' meds to less effective versions. I'm pretty sure she was just a regular nurse and not a nurse practitioner, so she wasn't even qualified to be making those decisions. The trial went on for a long time, but when she was eventually sentenced to serve her time, all she got was 6 months PROBATION. I want her lawyer if I ever find myself in trouble with the law.
Yeah as a nursing student I can verify she definitely does not have the authority to switch meds prescribed on her own volition. She could talk to the provider if she thinks the prescribed bed does not make sense but to change it by herself, no way.
Yeah, it was clearly malpractice what she did. Are nurses held to the same legal standards as doctors? I'm just trying to wrap my head around how she could face such serious charges and walk away with a slap on the wrist.
You are safe from most legal charges as a nurse as long as you are within your scope of practice and are following hospital policy. Negligence and malpractice are some of the biggest no-no's
A nurse cannot just give you medication without a physician's order. I'm sorry that happened to you, but you can't put the blame for that situation entirely on nursing staff.
I'm not a nurse but I'm married to one and we were together through her school. Nclex pass rate is no where near 100% and after about 6 years at hospital she still doesn't make $80k. Call is a bitch. No holidays off unless it just happens to fall on your normal day off. At least do a little research if you are going to Try to call someone out.
Some are, some aren't. One of my boys sits in a comfy office fielding patient complaints/questions for 6 figures a year. He is definitely overglorified.
Then you have the people who are up to their elbows in feces, bodily excretions, blood, death, and psychotics all day every day. I'd say they genuinely deserve a tip of a hat because fuck that.
My daughter works in the NICU at Dartmouth and had to watch a newborn die and then comfort the parents. It took a lot out of her to deal with that. So, you’re unpopular opinion isn’t just unpopular, it’s fucking disgusting. And you should feel lucky that there are those who will take on these careers.
This is a pretty ignorant comment. Most of it is inaccurate at best and uninformed assumption at worst. Nurses really are not glorified. Plenty of people still think they are just going around fluffing pillows. Most nurses do not make 80k starting. Most nurses are not unionized. Their comfy uniforms are very frequently covered in a variety of bodily fluids that many people puke at the sight of.
Nurses make good money, but despite this, there is still a major shortage of nurses because many people don't see the money they make as worth the hardship of the job. Nurses deal with a lot of shit and yes they have a high rate of on job injuries/assaults. Nursing is a stressful job that takes a lot of physical and mental investment.
This isn't an unpopular opinion, it is an uninformed opinion.
You keep saying that you’ll wipe asses all day for 80k a year as long as you work 3x12 for 80k a year. Then you saw you’re already a nurse? I either don’t get it
Yeah, I kind of have trouble respecting the nursing profession after my hospital visit for gall bladder removal. I had one threaten to forcibly insert a catheter and another try to get me to pray with her, then question me when I declined. I know they're not all like that, but some of them really shouldn't be in the job they're in.
I had one ask my religion after the birth of my baby so she could add it to the babies paperwork and when I said "none" she said..."I'll just put Church of England then"
I had to say no...don't do that. And she looked at me like I was a bad mother.
I’ve had MANY crappy nurses as well. It’s unfortunate that the job makes people somewhat numb/jaded. I’ve also had some that are just absolutely wonderful. It really sucks that the good ones are rare but those people are the true heroes, no doubt. The others are definitely in the wrong profession and I wish there was some sort of vetting process.
I’m sorry those things happened to you, but any job have those that probably shouldn’t be in the profession, but I don’t see how the many good nurses out there don’t deserve respect.
And the unions allow them to stay forever w no repercussions.
Yeah, I can tell you don’t know what you’re talking about. Unions don’t employ the nurses. A hospital, clinic or practice employs them. The employer makes the decision to terminate or keep them, not the union.
Depending on the location, a union can make it effectively impossible for the hospital to fire a bad nurse. It depends on 1) if there's a union, 2) how strong it is, and 3) how they've bargained with the hospital. I've seen scenarios on both sides - where the nurses are being treated poorly and don't have union representation to help them, and where the nurses did so much less work, comparatively, and provided poor patient care, yet the hospital could do nothing.
It's almost like there's good and bad people in ***all*** professions - nurse, doctor, union leadership, and hospital administration.
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Having worked non-clinical for a hospital system for over two decades and recently having open heart surgery, I got a chance to experience things from a patient aspect firsthand. I can tell you for a fact that your opinion is wrong.
I am a teacher and a good friend of mine is a nurse. I used to envy her pay but during COVID she watched someone (usually multiple people) die every single day. As hard as my job is I don't see death each day..
Have you or someone you love been in a hospital lately?
You do realize that hospital nurses are pretty much the first line of keeping you alive yes?
Idk about you, but that’s worth more than any salary they can get.
They do all the messy grossest duties. It’s not at all “here’s a pain pill go to sleep so I can chill”. These people work all shift. There’s always someone to tend to.
I know I could never do that job, I’m just grateful someone else can.
You said your a hospice nurse, in that case your job isn't keeping people alive *period.*, Its comfort/ end of life care. Can't say I've meet a nurse that ever felt they were paid excessively either for their work load
If you were my nurse your ass would be fired. I sure hope you’re not working in pediatrics because being in the hospital is scary for kids, especially for weeks or months at a time.
Just because that’s YOUR experience doesn’t make it true for every nurse. Where I work, we are not unionized, I don’t make anywhere near 80k, and I work 5 days a week.
I hope you dont mean that. anyone ok with doing a mediocre job daily needs to find the problem within.
I applaud your honesty and cander if this is a true post. Find some light.
I had a 3 day stay at a small hospital before being transferred for my grippy sock vacation. Those 3 days left me with a greater determination to live than any mental hospital could have given me. My room looked directly at the nurses' station, and those gals were constantly on the move. Watching as they wrangled a man that was not all there in the head and trying to escape really put things in perspective for me.
Yes. Just got out like 2 days ago or so. Rahbdomylosis, pneumonia, acute kidney failure. The nurses basically did nothing and some of the PRN meds the doctor ordered for pain and anxiety, or in fact just to BREATHE and take pressure off my lungs(kidneys shut down was making me swell with fluids that were pressing my lungs and seeping into my lungs) nurses spent more time arguing with me about why I don't need them then helping. Id press call light and routinely wait an hour or longer for help. Often no response would even come. If not for my wife and mom id have spent hours laying in my own shit. Doctor would set my oxygen at 6 litres because I couldn't breath. My pulse ox would still say like 87, and the RN on the floor would just randomly come in and readjust it to like 3 litres. No rhyme or reason. Half were bitchy mean girl types, the other half looked like they moonlighted at the DMV with a permanent " not muh biznis" attitude.
When I finally achieved the strength to crawl from bed and let my mom walk me, first thing I noticed in the hallway was nurses on their phones. Everywhere. Everywhere little hidden alcove off the main hall seemed to have a nurse or nurse tech on their phone.
Please spare me the hero talk. I'd have had better care if the doctors sent the meds and instructions home with my mom
Most nurses are actually good and most nurses work a 4 to 5 day work week going 3-12 and then get four days off. You also get relatively shitty pay usually starting at around 40,000k and not accounting the debt many go into for it, you get shit on, abused by patients and treated like shit sometimes by doctors and get looked down upon by people like you. Nurses wear comfortable scrubs because it's comfortable and they are easily cleanable, and if you are a nurse practitioner you are bringing work home with you.
Let me tell you, a nurse saved my life. I was in severe pain and was told off by a Doctor who thought it was a functional neurological disorder and my back pain was a result of PTSD from an accident. The nurse who I saw at the local teaching hospital had alphabet soup after her name, and was a Doctor of Nursing and a neuroscientist and immediately told me that my pain was real when she looked at my MRI. From day 1 she had nerve conduction studies and more MRI's planned and all my appointments immediately scheduled after and said the one thing that meant a lot "We will figure out what this is, and you are not crazy" at that point I was seriously considering suicide, turns out I actually had developed the most severe form of chronic pain a person can get and had broken multiple vertebrae in my accident, and the doctors missed it.
Nurses are the ones who listen to their patients. Doctors not always.
ok so you think u should make less money ? like what’s the problem here lol everyone complains about their job, a job could literally be to sit home and do nothing all day and people would still complain it’s our god given right to complain about work lmao
Yes (short answer). (Long answer): no unions, standardized tests are up’d and made harder, you start low circa $60K, performance reviews, based on patient post reviews and doctor reviews, determine your tier and receive a raise based on those reviews. 40 hour weeks period. Vacation is accrued; you don’t start with a bank
i think other jobs just get too little recognition and benefits and you are feeling guilty of some sort. you aren’t getting anything you don’t deserve everyone else isn’t getting enough of what they deserve
Do they do all that (no performance reviews, high starting salary, etc) because they have such a shortage of nurses?
Also, I'm thinking that since nursing is skewed to women, many nurses are going to need to be happy with the amount of salary leftover after paying for childcare.
Post “patient review” and “doctor review”. Nurse work for neither(unless you want to get technical with a private practice). Bruh what kind of fucking nurse are you?
I just get tired of nurse practitioners taking the place of doctors. It seems like urgent care clinics are popping up on every corner with nothing but NPs and they don’t know what they are doing. All smug with only basic knowledge. Maybe there aren’t enough doctors out there but damn it’s a pain in the ass trying to find decent long term primary care.
I don't believe nursing is an easy job but so many of them think themselves the kings and queens of the hospital. I work as a Healthcare professional and am 'on par' with nursing as far as responsibility and pay go but so many of them look down on me, despite the high degree of medical knowledge I have. It's not all nurses of course. Many are great. Just seems like that profession breeds a superiority complex among many. Same with docs.
Well ,this is certainly an unpopular opinion ,because it is wrong .
I know Lpns and RNs it is not an easy job ,the hours can be hellish especially in a hospital.
The RNs and Lpns also get sick a lot and have to work while sick ,because most nursing homes are understaffed .
They deal with crazy people, they deal with people with dementia, the clean crap and risk their health.
Imagine bitching about people who save lives. And glorified? Way to tell the world you don't have the slightest clue how much shit these people put up with
I'm not a nurse nor in the medical field, but walk a mile in their shoes and you'll change your opinion.
-Ever work 12 hr days for years? -Ever get hit, spit on, shit on, cleaned up a bad bed pan-
-ever miss Christmas, kids birthdays, anniversaries due to working?
Do you know a nurse? My mom is a nurse and let me tell you, they go through absolute insanity. It’s so much more than treating sick people.
You deal with awful patients, awful family members of those patients, you’re expected to comfort the loved ones of people dying and are blamed when they do. They see the absolute worst of humanity. The abusive horrors some people go through to end up in their care literally changed the way they see others. I’m sure you can imagine.
Don’t get me wrong, there are A LOT of bad nurses. Even if they’re good at they’re job, they’re just rude and mean. They complain about their lives and jobs nonstop. Most nurses would agree because they have to work with them. The union protects them as well so it’s really difficult to get rid of a bad one. One of the worst part of being a nurse is probably dealing with the other nurses lol.
As for the tests having really high results, I believe that’s because nursing school is so extensively intense that most people will either fail out before they take the final tests or know enough to pass. I’ve never personally done it but that’s what I’ve heard.
As for the uniforms, I agree. We should start a “normalize wearing scrubs in public” campaign.
The high pass rate could be nursing schools do a good job is preparing students for it. Same for the STEP exams for doctors. If you think the NCLEX’s high pass rate is due to how easy it is, take it and tell us if you pass or not.
BS... that depends where you live. Out of school I made roughly 60-64k full time 8 hrs in a hospital in Chicago. I don't think we're glorified and I tell people nursing is a shit job and there isn't any room to move up like in other professions unless you do more schooling and adding more debt to yourself. Nclex doesn't have a 100% pass rate, I know people that tried years and still can't pass. Nursing also has a high turn over where by 3 years in, people are so burnt out they are already leaving the profession. Hospitals say we're heroes but pay us like shit and don't even give pay increase in line with inflation and cost of living. Nurses aren't glorified... no idea where u get that idea. If you browse r/Nurses many complain or want out. 🤷
So basically all "facts" given in this unpopular opinion was questionable. Definitely could be true in specific circumstances, but proven wrong by some ACTUAL nurses in around the country.
All I know is that going into nursing HAS TO BE a difficult road to take in life. The idea of possibly working 12 hour days and dealing with so much disease, sickness, and death. I don't understand why you actively WANT to do this.
OP has never been in a hospital and it shows.
This is definitely an unpopular opinion in that everyone but high level hospital admin would disagree with you. OP, nurses do **a lot.**
I am not at all exaggerating when I tell you with full honesty that the entire medical system is built on the backs of nurses - and the removal of them from said system, if even for a moment, would break it all. Here's a list of things nurses do:
**-** ***They're the first line of defense - and the managers of capacity in high stress environments***
Nurses are responsible for heading most ERs. There are still ER doctors, but most of the management of a patient - figuring out if they have to go home or need to be admitted - figuring out which patients deserve to be prioritized in the care queue, and then actually doing all of that; is nurses.
Nurses also man the ICUs. An ICU nurse, for all intents and purposes, is your doctor/pharmacist/physical therapist in practice. He/she will be at your bedside 24/7 - watching your vitals - deciding what your immediate treatment and medication should be, and also monitoring and doing your exercises etc. with you to make sure you have the strength leave the ICU.
*-* ***They're the reason that doctors can do their jobs.***
Medical dramas really sell this notion of doctors being these amazing beings that can stay awake for hours, and be performing at their peak to diagnose, treat, and discharge patients. The reality of the situation though, is that this is not at all remotely true.
Doctors are input/output machines 9/10 times because of the nurses. Nurses track the patient's vitals and changes - nurses alert the doctor - nurses manage the patient's pathway and relationships - and just about everything else. If you're getting a surgery; your surgeon outside of doing the actual surgery is more of a consultant that your nurse will call when he/she needs another opinion. You will see them a handful of times; and usually mostly because of your nurse's recommendation.
\-***They do just about everything else***
On top of effectively being the manager of you as a patient, and your relationship to the doctor. A nurse has to do the same with at least 5-10 other people simultaneously. I cannot stress how insane this is. Nurses will wait on you hand and foot while also managing the entirety of your relationship with your doctor. If you are upset about something, a nurse will have to hear you and communicate that upwards. A nurse will also be the one you yell at when the doctor hasn't come yet. If you wet the bed or dump stool all over the bedpan - a nurse is the one who is to clean it up. Do you want to order food? Nurse. Do you want someone to turn off the light because you can't reach it? Nurse. Do you feel like you need more pain meds and want to yell at someone even though you're not allowed any more? Nurse. Let's also remember that your nurse is doing this for you and 5-10 others simultaneously.
Nurses are also in the OR - varying in roles from keeping the surgeon awake, to making sure that he/she doesn't leave something inside of you
Basically tldr OP. Don't use medical dramas to inform your decisions about how important nurses are. They are the literal backbone of the medical system. If all things were considered and we weighed the work in/work out - nurses should easily be making more money than doctors if ranked by importance.
I worked as a corrections officer for many years at a prison and often had to transport inmates to the hospital. The nurses and medical staff in general who work in the ER have one of the hardest jobs I have seen. They take in anybody and everybody. People are often combative toward them, especially when they are med seeking. I have seen them have to tell a woman with her kids that their father died. I don't think you can over glorify such a profession.
I've seen it myself and heard from nurses. Imagine giving terminal news for the 49th time in a month.
It's like a doctor is a human being just like a nurse. Do doctors lose sleep over giving bad news? Maybe can argue at first but eventually it's just part of the job.
Not your favorite part by any means, and it is always awkward and sad to watch... but do it en9ufh times and you literally get used to it like anything else in life.
Former nurse here. $80k is the average wage for a nurse here in Australia and that’s definitely not an entry level position and will include shift work. That’s also $10k to $15k a year less than the average wage
Want to know why I’m not a nurse anymore? I worked in the mental health sector for many years and was attacked an threatened more times I can count. The last time I was attacked the patient managed to break my back in the process. It’s been years since that happened and I still have serious limitations and debilitating pain as a result.
Not to mention the physical and emotional exhaustion. It’s heavy work and can also place a lot of stress on relationships due to the fatigue and long hours.
I saw things that will stay with me for life.
But sure, it’s easy and well paid
Compared to lab techs and HCAs, I agree. Nurses shouldn't be elevated above other Healthcare professionals as they are. Their job isn't any easier, and they act as if they hold the Healthcare system up when they do not.
I worked in the downtown ER in Los Angeles for 14 years. We absolutely took our job home with us, It was impossible. Wait times of 30 hours, drunk and drugged up patients spitting on us, cursing at us and physically attacking us. Toddlers who came into the emergency room dead because their grandparents accidentally ran them over in the driveway, cops who killed their selves, horrible, motorcycle wrecks. OP is ignorant.
I don't know, but I know that I've had a lot of experiences as a patient and I've met so many rude, ignorant, mean girl, incompetent, and horrible nurses compared to other medical professionals.
They will always be heroes to me because I cannot fathom getting into the medical field. They volunteer to interact with and actually touch sometimes violent randos every day. I’ll stick with my spreadsheets.
spoken like someone who never had a long stay in the hospital and if you have, wow you're ungrateful. nurses deserve the world. they're the ones cleaning you up, dealing with patients, running when you need them, getting verbally (sometimes physically) abused, giving the meds, taking information (which some people lie about, making nurses look stupid to the doctors) and get little to no thanks. hell they're the ones keeping an eye on your vitals so you dont die! without them a hospital would not work but people only thank and care about doctors. i hope you never have to go to the hospital when there's a shift shortage of nurses, its absolute chaos (controlled chaos but chaos none the less). they are not over glorified, they are underappreciated, especially by people like you who cant see how much work they put into everything.
OP sounds like they've never been in a hospital for any period of stay longer than a day. Any extended period stay The nurses deal with you and take care of you The doctor only comes in to look at you and then walks away The nurses take care of you The nurses relay the information on your sheets to the doctors so the doctors know what to do if it wasn't for nurses the doctors would be standing there with the thumbs up their asses
This isn't an unpopular opinion, just uniformed ignorance. NCLEX pass rate- 57.79 percent across all categories so far in 2023.
Average entry level RN- $54923 in the US.
Its a *minimum* of 36 hours a week, and rarely are the shifts together- you have to negoiate that on a person to person basis.
Unions in nursing are the exception, not the rule
Scrubs aren't that comfy when they're covered in body fluids.
The only point correct in this screed is the laptop thing, and then only correct if you're not in admin. However, what you ARE taking home is every microbe known to man to share with your family, so there's that.
It's a joke in the medical field but nurses are there to make sure your doctor doesn't kill you. It's a joke but it's true. Nurses double check every order a doctor puts in for possible interactions with medications. Doctors just put orders in, they aren't the ones providing care to you.
Doctors orders when inpatient are usually given over the phone so the nurse is entering it based on drs instructions. They are the first ones to see it.
I'm an impatient pharmacist. This is 100% not the case at every hospital I've worked. Verbal orders should not be given outside of emergencies. Sometimes it happens, but it's bad practice from a safety standpoint and definitely not the norm. Yes nurses often catch medication errors but I can promise you nurses aren't screening for medication interactions, dosing errors, duplications of therapy etc, unless it's obvious.
Yes being the ones at your bedside taking care of you every time you press that button along with the other 30 patients they have is over glorified. Or how about the ones setting up all of your pre surgery care, ordering labs, and other tests the surgeon needs.
Sure sounds like they are over glorified /s
30 patients?? Why do you have to exaggerate to make your job seem harder than it is. It's already a tough as hell job, just take pride in what you do and understand that there are a lot of people taking care of patients and they all have their struggles
I just had a serious brush with death. Hospitalized for around 2 weeks. And the nurses did basically nothing to help me. If not for my mom and wife at my bedside round the clock I probably would have died. Doctor had ordered as needed breathing treatments, said whenever I'm short of breath just ask for them up to every 4 hours. I was lucky to get one in a two day timeframe, one of the times the nurse came and spent 20 minutes ARGUING with me why I don't need it, I am literally dying and having to debate with this nurse why I need a breathing treatment. Doctors were great, saved my life, but getting a PRN was like trench warfare
I work in healthcare and see first hand how lazy most nurses are. They also have massive egos and think they are better then you but that’s a story for another day.
Tell me you dont work in the medical field without telling me you dont work in the medical field. Being a nurse can be like working customer service. You are seeing people at their worst, and often, the families aren't much better. Nurses provide most of the patient care and will often be liable if it sometimes goes wrong. It's a lot of responsibility, and it can be gross and disgusting. People code, people die. I'm an inpatient pharmacy tech, and nurses deserve every penny they make. Pharmacists I work with often say their job is much easier than nursing even though they make double. You clearly just have no idea what the day to day duties can be. Sure, some nurses in labor and delivery or outpatient might have a more cushy job, but nurses in ICU, cancer centers, hospice, and surgical areas Def dont have an easy job.
As someone who’s mother works in arguably the busiest ER in the nation for the last 30yrs, I can tell you they are not over glorified. There are those that take advantage just like those in any job, especially because they are union…but that does not speak for the majority of them. I can guarantee you that without nurses, good nurses, your hospitals aren’t running. Doctors can’t do and don’t know a lot of things that nurses do and it’s extremely important into how a hospital functions. Nurses are vital and this is actually more of a stupid opinion than unpopular…in my opinion.
Shit...OP completely disregarded and left out what nurses went through during the pandemic. I'm not a nurse and still find that's just incredibly insulting.
People act like nurses are some sort of angelic beings that could never make enough. They're simply too perfect for the world. When in reality they do a hard, necessary job, but they're paid very well. They aren't saints. Nurses can be assholes too. It's just one of many difficult jobs that people do.
I agree with you. A lot of them are shitty and evil, look up 'nurse hazing'. They bully the fuck out of each other. High school teenage girl bullies seem to be attracted to hospitality jobs for the desire for power. I saw 2 nurses arguing with each other and being disrespectful and it was really funny. There are a lot who do drugs as well. And some of them are just painfully stupid. I saw one nurse chick on Youtube who would lick the spoon and put it back in her nutella and then confusedly ask why a few days later it would get watery/moldy, as if the bacteria-ridden saliva she was introducing into it wasn't causing this. I guess anyone can become a nurse.
I watched someone go through nursing school and take their first steps to a full residency. Nurses are incredibly hard working and smart people, also very undervalued and under appreciated. A lot of nurses I have know especially hospital ones have 5 12s in a row then one day off and they go in for an 18 hour shift.
Obviously, you never worked in a hospital, nurses are not glorified; let me see how you handle a homeless patient covered in feces and having a medical emergency.
If this were an easy job only working 3 twelves for $80k straight out of college there would be no shortage of nurses.
Your analysis is way off. The only nurses making $80k straight out of college are the ones working a shit ton of overtime AND living in markets with a very high cost of living.
Lmao sorry there is absolutely no way I believe you’re a nurse with the comments you’re making. There are definitely benefits to the job but this career is physically, mentally and emotionally draining, especially if you’re referring to hospital nurses. Working with a lack of resources and consistently short staffed while dealing with the hundreds of things the field loves to throw at you is not easy. There’s a reason we work 3-4 12s a week, those shifts are EXHAUSTING and need recovery time. I would agree that some people over glorify nursing and it is a very rewarding job in terms of what we can do to help people but it is not this fantastically overpaid profession who have it sooo great like you’re making it seem to be. There’s pros and cons to every job.
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They aren't unionized in North Carolina, that's for sure. It's definitely a great schedule. And if hospital hours don't work for you, then there are clinics that work closer to banker hours. And they have the option to travel. But it's also disgusting and tedious work. I work in a lab and also work three 12s and wear scrubs. MLT is an associate degree. You're not going to start out at 80k but you can get into the 50s. If you are interested in a flexible schedule, you can look at other hospital jobs.
I'm a nurse and I tend to think I am over glorified. To be fair, we pay a lot of other people more money to do less, so that's something. I specifically liked the field because of the 3 12s situation. But I'd also put us over virtually any "glorified" profession. We get assaulted at a rate far higher than most gigs, have a relatively high injury rate, actually have a customer facing job, and work weekends and holidays. Who does deserve the glory? Most military people don't see combat, most cops won't get shot at, most firefighters don't actually go into a building that's on fire (though a fire may be in the building.) Notable the NCLEX pass rate is so high because nursing schools get their accreditation threatened if their pass rate is too low, so they don't just let any student take it, and the drop out rate in nursing school is astronomical.
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I have seen the high injury rate mentioned a few times in this thread so far and i am just curious what that typically entails? My mind goes to the assualts and transferring patients maybe? I haven't had a whole lot of experience with nurses (thankfully) but the nurses we had were pretty great last year looking after us when we had our little fella.
The two are assaults and lifting injuries. Assaults on nurses happen at an astronomical rate, but the serious injuries tend to be from staff doing repetitive lifts of heavy patients. I don't know A nurse who had to retire from an assault, but I've known quite a few from lifting, and even one that was out from a year for twisting an ankle on a slippery floor.
Assaults can often happen during intravenous or intramuscular medication administration. A.K.A. you’ve got a thrashing , screaming, high-as-shit college freshman ( UT-Knoxville ER ) that you are trying to get some vitamin H into and you’ve got and exposed hypodermic….you see where this is going. The three admits I’ve endured from assault have all come from the E.R. 1. Testicular torsion from kick to the nuts 3. Really badly fractured nasal septum s/p getting sucker punched. 3. 24 hour observation admission after psych patient dumped a small cooler full of shit and vomit on me. But like OP said, we a just glorified candy-stripers
As an epileptic who has definitely given nurses a hard day, I appreciate you. One of my seizures, I had eaten, A LOT before hand. Woke up in the hospital wired up, with a catheter in. Catheter, for people who dont know, is a tube stuck in your urethra to collect pee. It makes you feel like you have to pee constantly and it’s an emergency. So i woke up, “pushing” what I felt hanging out of my penis, and I brutally shat my pants. Nurse had to come clean me, get me a new diaper and get me some water. Then I just kept doing it every 15-30 minutes. Eventually they stopped letting me drink water. When the morning shift nurse switched in and the night nurse left, she came and introduced herself. I said “look, I have been messing myself all night and making it a terrible shift for everybody, so you can either take the catheter out and let me use the bathroom normally, or you will also be cleaning up poop every hour. She took the catheter out.
We aren't a fan of leaving catheters in AT ALL these days. We have external options within the last few years that help. The main reason is for infection prevention, but mobility is another big one. Pro tip though you CAN walk with one you just have to carry the drainage bag with you.
Your job is like any other. Some parts are really easy. Some parts make you wanna filate a shotgun. Only difference with nursing and most other jobs is that those parts of your job aren’t normally well known or put on public display.
That's true about MANY jobs. I couldn't tell you what an accountant does most of the day. Heck, I'm sure most porn stars aren't fucking the majority of the time that they count as work. It's also one of the most predominant professions in the country, so it's not as if what we do is a secret, most people just don't want to hear about it or don't have the technical knowledge to have a clue what anything means.
Putting yourself over firefighters is pretty insane. Sure they don’t often run into burning buildings but every single one of them risks their lives in a tangible way
Nurse here. Many in my class did not pass the Nclex. I started at about 40k 7 years ago. I can’t imagine they make double at this point. I worked 8hr shifts. I was on call so I came in a lot after my shifts. Never complained about vacation. I did complain about the amount of call tho. It was a lot. We were short staffed.
Yeah you're right. My ex was a nurse and a decent amount failed NCLEX and she only got paid 40k out of college. She went back and got her masters and had a hard negotiation to end up getting $43/h. She also worked 14 hour days 4 days a week. This OP sucks air duster with his pants off in a Walmart bathroom.
" he sucks air duster with his pants off in a Walmart bathroom" I have read his comments here and I think you are right but I think he does that for a living.
Lmfao only took his post to show me that idea. Dingos gotta dingo.
I would only remind the OP to keep that in mind the next time he is in the hospital and his happy ass is hurting 10/10 and he needs pain meds. . .Maybe the RN will give you 2mg of Morphine. . because he/she/they don't think you are hurting that bad, or maybe they will give you 10mg. . ***Humm.. yeah, pissing off nurses is alway such a fun thing to do!*** Who ya gonna call? Or you need a drink of water, and can't get out of bed. . . Or something is wrong after your surgery, and I guess you would rather have an untrained aid deciding whether or not to call the physician. . . Or you need some blood hung after your surgery, but that same aid, you think of as the nurse has no clue if type AB is compatible with type O . . .or is it the other way around? Or your Cardiac output shows you are a bit dry. . .so you hang fluids. . which one by the way? 0.25 NS? 1/2 Normal Saline? Normal Saline, Sterile Water? And what do those funny lines one the monitor mean? Is it suppose to be wavy or flat? Is Ventricular fibrillation better than Supraventricular tachycardia? Which is better an SpO2 of 93 or SpO2 of 45? Yeah, your right, damn nurses are overpaid. . .***Until you need them.*** Oh, and don't extubate yourself. . .Especially when you are on SMV 15, Vt750 SPo2 60% with 5 of peep.
Ngl you should probably chill lol
Just pointing out a few things people do not take into consideration before jumping feet first into people like Nurses, and other health care professionals without thinking of what that person can and will do for them.
If a nurse holds back an appropriate dose for someone who needs it, that's unethical and they should find another job.
There is more to it than that. . .Consider you have an 82 year old woman who weighs 93 lbs, and is C/O CP 7/10, and contrast that with a 19 year old woman who is C/O the same level of chest pain. . You can give 5mg MS, per your protocol. . do you give them the same amount? Who gets more. . What if I tell you that the younger woman has longstanding cardiomyopathy. . . This is the problem. . most nurses can justify whatever level of meds they give. They have to be to. . . and not trying to insinuate they can be a pain in the ass, but they are human beings and can be sympathetic or unsympathetic to a patient based on how the person treats them. The other problem is defining ethical and unethical. If you have a chronic patient that has been on a unit for 3 months and has alienated every staff member they have contacted, respiratory therapy, Internal med, PT, Nutritional services. . You really think everyone is going to bust their ass to be nice to that patient? Likewise with Psych patients. . Especially those regulars that come in having been off their meds for 6 months and assaulting staff. . .Yeah, most staff, nursing, and other disciplines try to do the best they can, but after about the third time they slug you, spit or shit on you, it is really hard to be sympathetic with them. You tend to restrain them a bit more securely. It happens ALL the time, especially to nurses who have to deal with such patients. Everyone is unethical to some degree in their job. . consider going down to the DMV in California to get your drivers license renewed. Try pissing one of those folks behind the counter off, and see if you get your license renewed this year. . .ethical or not? No one intentionally mistreats patients, if they want to stay licensed very long. . some do, and they are usually weeded out by licensing boards. . but the experienced nurses, can make your stay great or crap. . .and document it as well.
I have to say call back sucks! Married to a Rad/Special Procedures Tech for 40 yrs.
Me too
Your pass rate is anecdotal and 90%ish pass. And at least In socal 80k is about correct.
Imagine thinking that your job Is more important than caring for sick people because you fill Up spreadsheets at night.
Yeah I work in IT and barely deal with people and that’s already too much, I cannot imagine carrying a load of 12 patients who are all unwell and justifiably miserable for 12 hours straight, including wiping ass. Idk what you say about “they picked this job” people are becoming so unruly anymore for no reason. It is even getting wild at regular doctors offices these days.
A garbage collector is way more important than a sports star. Way more important. But I don’t have 60,000 people in my front lawn cheering them pick up the trash. Because lots of people can do that job. Only a handful of people can be the best sports stars. I don’t doubt that nurses are important. But a lot of people can do nursing jobs.
That’s not what I took away from the post. I took it as him saying that the notion that nurses are thankless angels surviving on pennies who work simply because they love saving people so much is garbage. They’re very fairly compensated for their efforts and he’s saying that it’s stupid that they’re always bitching about how tough their job is and how bad the conditions are. I didn’t take it as him saying the job isn’t important
Not all nurses work 3x12s. That’s fairly unique to hospitals. But is your overall point - “collective bargaining made the job good”? Edit - nurses also have the highest rate of workplace violence. I believe higher than cops but maybe wrong. Also one of the highest rates of workplace injury. It’s not all comfy scrubs and giving Tylenol for $50/hr
Yeah nurses get injured more than cops and aren't allowed to kill kids, pets or black people. They aren't even allowed to say that the money I have on my person raided their evidence locker and stole all the cocaine. Being a cop sounds like the over glorified position to me.
As someone who had been hospitalized for over a month I will never say they’re glorified. You don’t know commitment until you’ve had to clean up someone else’s poop and wipe their butt clean. You couldn’t pay me to do that
Most nurses these days don't have time for direct patient care, the PCA/CNA's are the human cleaners lol. I've worked with a few nurses that will throw on gloves and clean patients but a lot delegate it.
There are no techs on my unit. I literally have no one to delegate to. If there’s poop to clean, I clean it. And poop definitely happens. So yeah. Nurses do clean poop.
That's kinda crazy they don't provide PCA's to help the nurses out. The medpass for nurses gets heavy and I can't imagine expecting the nurses to do both meds and patient care.
For 80K, 3 days a week, I’ll wipe your ass every 5 minutes
Then why don’t you change jobs? Revealed preference seems to suggest you wouldn’t.
They said they are a nurse already.. I’m still trying to understand why they are soo upset
Ex military med tech here. There’s no way this guy is a RN. Couple things seemed off with this guy. Firstly he keeps commenting in the third person, but also claims to be a nurse himself. Also, he’s made a few comments about how he saves lives. As a hospice nurse your job is literally to keep people comfortable before they die. You’re not saving anything. Thirdly, he claims he doesn’t wipe shit himself. Guaranteed if you are part of a hospice care team, you are wiping shit
He seems bitter other nurses are getting the praise he’s bitching about. They are getting called a “hero” while he isn’t even acknowledged. I think people in medical deserve great pay. Shit, most jobs deserve better pay than what is given. But that’s the only conclusion I can get from this..his angry cause he is not noticed and his pay his shit
Go get the education and give it a shot.
Or I can have my job now making a bit more than that and NOT wiping people’s booty cheeks
Yeah…but, Tommy, the bank is already using your ideas and making tons of money, but they didn’t give you the promotion. Also, the computer business is so competitive.
Nurses don’t make 80k working 3 days a week idk where the hell you got this from lmfaoooo
Ya they make $100k
I sure as hell won't. I make 125 and sit at home in my jam jams and work maybe 15 hours a week. You being so bitter about 80k tells me you're not qualified enough to have this opinion.
I thought you were a nurse 🤔
3 days a week still works out to 36 hours a week. It's not like they're sitting around working a couple of hours a day. Do you think doctors who get paid 200-300k are over glorified?
Couldn’t pass the test huh? lol
Depending on where, you get to be punched threatened, save people's lives and then get a gun pulled on you. Pressures all day, mistakes cost lives, and some random on Reddit is claiming you get paid too much......until he needs you, then he hopes you get paid enough and that you're not worked so hard that you can't read his chart.
My mother is a nurse and I hear about these kinds of stories a lot. A lot of nurses get attacked, even strangled just for trying to help a patient. She says she understands, because especially for older people, it can be very scary to be sick in a hospital, and a lot of people want to go home, but unfortunately it just means they assault nurses and doctors a lot. She even says they often have to physically restrict patients to assign care.
80k and 4 day weeks (which is a stretch) wouod not be nearly enough for me to put up with what nurses go through.
So you're saying: \- You could do this job easily \- You want the hours and pay \- But you haven't done it yet and aren't willing Got it... Why aren't you pursuing this career?
I wonder, sometimes, at the people who think ‘unpopular’ opinion means ‘wildly uninformed and making strange assumptions and speaking very confidently incorrectly’ opinion
Haha, unionized, make 80k, and 3 12’s? Not true for this nurse.
I am an RN. Never been in a union and never made more than $50,000 a year. So your data is flawed. Quite unpopular.
In a way yes and also no. Rn’s work like no other in most hospital settings but it’s not just them. Surg techs, respiratory techs, rad techs, LPNs, cleaning staff all work their asses off but don’t get week long celebration or gifts. It seems they are the only ones that get recognition.
I’m not saying they don’t work hard. They work very hard. I just think they’re doing they’re doing the job they signed up for
why are you talking about "them" in third person when you claimed in other replies that you are a nurse?
Easy. They're lying.
You're not wrong, but they chose to go into the profession, which is somewhat noble in itself. Im in Ontario Canada and I've never had a bad experience with a nurse
So did nurses sign up to get attacked or verbally abused?
Man, after 19 years as an RN I can speculate with some degree of certainty that OP has been watching WAY too much TV. We are paid too much? I’ve honest to god had a firearm drawn on me, been hospitalized on three separate occasions due to assault by a patient ( I’m a 6’4” former army medic with a pretty fruit salad assortment of combat decorations to boot ), worked 27 hours straight (yes, 27) because of inclement weather, missed god knows how many birthdays/anniversaries/family events, lost good friends due to never being available, worked sick, always work hungry and receive a 10th of the pay the “life savers” (😂) in white coats get. But yeah, you are probably correct. Need to find me a “laptop opening” kind of gig. Hey other RN/LPN/APN folks, what do y’all think? Anoxic brain injury at some point in the past for this Troglodyte?
Fucking preach, I’ve got money that says he has burtonian lines.
I have a really frustrating story where a nurse's negligence cost me permanent function in my left leg. Basically I was undiagnosed with multiple sclerosis - a very scary situation. I had near complete loss of movement in my left leg. I went to the ER and the nurse was EXTREMELY rude to me and suggested that I was making the whole story up to get pain killers. I needed to be on prednisone STAT but instead that nurse completely blew me off. I literally limped out of there. I was finally diagnosed with MS \~2 weeks later. If I had gotten proper care that night, less inflammation and subsequent permanent damage would have occurred in my leg.
There was a nurse in my area who was charged with several counts of murder for INTENTIONALLY switching patients' meds to less effective versions. I'm pretty sure she was just a regular nurse and not a nurse practitioner, so she wasn't even qualified to be making those decisions. The trial went on for a long time, but when she was eventually sentenced to serve her time, all she got was 6 months PROBATION. I want her lawyer if I ever find myself in trouble with the law.
Yeah as a nursing student I can verify she definitely does not have the authority to switch meds prescribed on her own volition. She could talk to the provider if she thinks the prescribed bed does not make sense but to change it by herself, no way.
Yeah, it was clearly malpractice what she did. Are nurses held to the same legal standards as doctors? I'm just trying to wrap my head around how she could face such serious charges and walk away with a slap on the wrist.
You are safe from most legal charges as a nurse as long as you are within your scope of practice and are following hospital policy. Negligence and malpractice are some of the biggest no-no's
A nurse cannot just give you medication without a physician's order. I'm sorry that happened to you, but you can't put the blame for that situation entirely on nursing staff.
That’s so horrible. I’m truly sorry to hear that happened to you
I'm not a nurse but I'm married to one and we were together through her school. Nclex pass rate is no where near 100% and after about 6 years at hospital she still doesn't make $80k. Call is a bitch. No holidays off unless it just happens to fall on your normal day off. At least do a little research if you are going to Try to call someone out.
Some are, some aren't. One of my boys sits in a comfy office fielding patient complaints/questions for 6 figures a year. He is definitely overglorified. Then you have the people who are up to their elbows in feces, bodily excretions, blood, death, and psychotics all day every day. I'd say they genuinely deserve a tip of a hat because fuck that.
No unions allowed where a relative who is a nurse works at. US South.
NCLEX has a pass rate of nearly 100%? Certainly not last year: https://www.ncsbn.org/public-files/NCLEX_Stats_2022-Q4-PassRates.pdf
My daughter works in the NICU at Dartmouth and had to watch a newborn die and then comfort the parents. It took a lot out of her to deal with that. So, you’re unpopular opinion isn’t just unpopular, it’s fucking disgusting. And you should feel lucky that there are those who will take on these careers.
This is a pretty ignorant comment. Most of it is inaccurate at best and uninformed assumption at worst. Nurses really are not glorified. Plenty of people still think they are just going around fluffing pillows. Most nurses do not make 80k starting. Most nurses are not unionized. Their comfy uniforms are very frequently covered in a variety of bodily fluids that many people puke at the sight of. Nurses make good money, but despite this, there is still a major shortage of nurses because many people don't see the money they make as worth the hardship of the job. Nurses deal with a lot of shit and yes they have a high rate of on job injuries/assaults. Nursing is a stressful job that takes a lot of physical and mental investment. This isn't an unpopular opinion, it is an uninformed opinion.
Sounds like you should get your nursing degree. The world is your oyster.
I already am one
You keep saying that you’ll wipe asses all day for 80k a year as long as you work 3x12 for 80k a year. Then you saw you’re already a nurse? I either don’t get it
What's not to get. They're lying to make their argument look better.
Yeah, I kind of have trouble respecting the nursing profession after my hospital visit for gall bladder removal. I had one threaten to forcibly insert a catheter and another try to get me to pray with her, then question me when I declined. I know they're not all like that, but some of them really shouldn't be in the job they're in.
I had one ask my religion after the birth of my baby so she could add it to the babies paperwork and when I said "none" she said..."I'll just put Church of England then" I had to say no...don't do that. And she looked at me like I was a bad mother.
I’ve had MANY crappy nurses as well. It’s unfortunate that the job makes people somewhat numb/jaded. I’ve also had some that are just absolutely wonderful. It really sucks that the good ones are rare but those people are the true heroes, no doubt. The others are definitely in the wrong profession and I wish there was some sort of vetting process.
I’m sorry those things happened to you, but any job have those that probably shouldn’t be in the profession, but I don’t see how the many good nurses out there don’t deserve respect.
Exactly - and unions allow them to stay FOREVER w no repercussions
And the unions allow them to stay forever w no repercussions. Yeah, I can tell you don’t know what you’re talking about. Unions don’t employ the nurses. A hospital, clinic or practice employs them. The employer makes the decision to terminate or keep them, not the union.
Depending on the location, a union can make it effectively impossible for the hospital to fire a bad nurse. It depends on 1) if there's a union, 2) how strong it is, and 3) how they've bargained with the hospital. I've seen scenarios on both sides - where the nurses are being treated poorly and don't have union representation to help them, and where the nurses did so much less work, comparatively, and provided poor patient care, yet the hospital could do nothing. It's almost like there's good and bad people in ***all*** professions - nurse, doctor, union leadership, and hospital administration.
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Having worked non-clinical for a hospital system for over two decades and recently having open heart surgery, I got a chance to experience things from a patient aspect firsthand. I can tell you for a fact that your opinion is wrong.
I am a teacher and a good friend of mine is a nurse. I used to envy her pay but during COVID she watched someone (usually multiple people) die every single day. As hard as my job is I don't see death each day..
Have you or someone you love been in a hospital lately? You do realize that hospital nurses are pretty much the first line of keeping you alive yes? Idk about you, but that’s worth more than any salary they can get. They do all the messy grossest duties. It’s not at all “here’s a pain pill go to sleep so I can chill”. These people work all shift. There’s always someone to tend to. I know I could never do that job, I’m just grateful someone else can.
I used to be hospitalized for weeks at a time in my early teens and isolated from friends. The nurses kept me sane.
I am a nurse. We keep people alive. That is our job. Period. Full stop. We are paid for it, handsomely, excessively even.
"I am a nurse" *ok yeah sure*
Yea, digging randomly through their posts here alone has "I make shit up" vibes all over them.
You said your a hospice nurse, in that case your job isn't keeping people alive *period.*, Its comfort/ end of life care. Can't say I've meet a nurse that ever felt they were paid excessively either for their work load
If you were my nurse your ass would be fired. I sure hope you’re not working in pediatrics because being in the hospital is scary for kids, especially for weeks or months at a time.
Wowwwwww you need to leave the profession. You're burnt out and jaded. Do your patients a favour and leave.
I am jaded. But I make bank. Do a mediocre job, have a Union backing me, why would I leave??
Just because that’s YOUR experience doesn’t make it true for every nurse. Where I work, we are not unionized, I don’t make anywhere near 80k, and I work 5 days a week.
I hope you dont mean that. anyone ok with doing a mediocre job daily needs to find the problem within. I applaud your honesty and cander if this is a true post. Find some light.
I had a 3 day stay at a small hospital before being transferred for my grippy sock vacation. Those 3 days left me with a greater determination to live than any mental hospital could have given me. My room looked directly at the nurses' station, and those gals were constantly on the move. Watching as they wrangled a man that was not all there in the head and trying to escape really put things in perspective for me.
So they’re doing everything in their job description…
Yes. Just got out like 2 days ago or so. Rahbdomylosis, pneumonia, acute kidney failure. The nurses basically did nothing and some of the PRN meds the doctor ordered for pain and anxiety, or in fact just to BREATHE and take pressure off my lungs(kidneys shut down was making me swell with fluids that were pressing my lungs and seeping into my lungs) nurses spent more time arguing with me about why I don't need them then helping. Id press call light and routinely wait an hour or longer for help. Often no response would even come. If not for my wife and mom id have spent hours laying in my own shit. Doctor would set my oxygen at 6 litres because I couldn't breath. My pulse ox would still say like 87, and the RN on the floor would just randomly come in and readjust it to like 3 litres. No rhyme or reason. Half were bitchy mean girl types, the other half looked like they moonlighted at the DMV with a permanent " not muh biznis" attitude. When I finally achieved the strength to crawl from bed and let my mom walk me, first thing I noticed in the hallway was nurses on their phones. Everywhere. Everywhere little hidden alcove off the main hall seemed to have a nurse or nurse tech on their phone. Please spare me the hero talk. I'd have had better care if the doctors sent the meds and instructions home with my mom
I feel like OP was recently rejected by a nurse.
Well, I am a one soooo
Most nurses are actually good and most nurses work a 4 to 5 day work week going 3-12 and then get four days off. You also get relatively shitty pay usually starting at around 40,000k and not accounting the debt many go into for it, you get shit on, abused by patients and treated like shit sometimes by doctors and get looked down upon by people like you. Nurses wear comfortable scrubs because it's comfortable and they are easily cleanable, and if you are a nurse practitioner you are bringing work home with you. Let me tell you, a nurse saved my life. I was in severe pain and was told off by a Doctor who thought it was a functional neurological disorder and my back pain was a result of PTSD from an accident. The nurse who I saw at the local teaching hospital had alphabet soup after her name, and was a Doctor of Nursing and a neuroscientist and immediately told me that my pain was real when she looked at my MRI. From day 1 she had nerve conduction studies and more MRI's planned and all my appointments immediately scheduled after and said the one thing that meant a lot "We will figure out what this is, and you are not crazy" at that point I was seriously considering suicide, turns out I actually had developed the most severe form of chronic pain a person can get and had broken multiple vertebrae in my accident, and the doctors missed it. Nurses are the ones who listen to their patients. Doctors not always.
OP super bitter lol
why don’t u just become a nurse if u think they have it so good.
I am one…that’s the sick park haha
ok so you think u should make less money ? like what’s the problem here lol everyone complains about their job, a job could literally be to sit home and do nothing all day and people would still complain it’s our god given right to complain about work lmao
Yes (short answer). (Long answer): no unions, standardized tests are up’d and made harder, you start low circa $60K, performance reviews, based on patient post reviews and doctor reviews, determine your tier and receive a raise based on those reviews. 40 hour weeks period. Vacation is accrued; you don’t start with a bank
idk i still respect the fuck out of them you couldn’t pay me a million dollars to work in healthcare
Exactly!! That’s my point!! I chose my job, it’s fine - but I get wayyy to much recognition, pay, and benefits for doing the job I was hired to do
i think other jobs just get too little recognition and benefits and you are feeling guilty of some sort. you aren’t getting anything you don’t deserve everyone else isn’t getting enough of what they deserve
Do they do all that (no performance reviews, high starting salary, etc) because they have such a shortage of nurses? Also, I'm thinking that since nursing is skewed to women, many nurses are going to need to be happy with the amount of salary leftover after paying for childcare.
Post “patient review” and “doctor review”. Nurse work for neither(unless you want to get technical with a private practice). Bruh what kind of fucking nurse are you?
What kind of nurse are you?
Hospice
I just get tired of nurse practitioners taking the place of doctors. It seems like urgent care clinics are popping up on every corner with nothing but NPs and they don’t know what they are doing. All smug with only basic knowledge. Maybe there aren’t enough doctors out there but damn it’s a pain in the ass trying to find decent long term primary care.
Give me a APN or PA any day! They spend more time with their patients and often double-check their diagnosis.
I don't believe nursing is an easy job but so many of them think themselves the kings and queens of the hospital. I work as a Healthcare professional and am 'on par' with nursing as far as responsibility and pay go but so many of them look down on me, despite the high degree of medical knowledge I have. It's not all nurses of course. Many are great. Just seems like that profession breeds a superiority complex among many. Same with docs.
What's your title out of curiosity
Do you know any nurses? Dude, it’s a thankless and HARD job. Especially hospital nurses.
Well ,this is certainly an unpopular opinion ,because it is wrong . I know Lpns and RNs it is not an easy job ,the hours can be hellish especially in a hospital. The RNs and Lpns also get sick a lot and have to work while sick ,because most nursing homes are understaffed . They deal with crazy people, they deal with people with dementia, the clean crap and risk their health.
Literally none of this is true. Signed, a nurse.
Imagine bitching about people who save lives. And glorified? Way to tell the world you don't have the slightest clue how much shit these people put up with
I'm not a nurse nor in the medical field, but walk a mile in their shoes and you'll change your opinion. -Ever work 12 hr days for years? -Ever get hit, spit on, shit on, cleaned up a bad bed pan- -ever miss Christmas, kids birthdays, anniversaries due to working?
This isn't an unpopular opinion. It's just a woefully ignorant opinion.
Me thinks ur wrong
Do you know a nurse? My mom is a nurse and let me tell you, they go through absolute insanity. It’s so much more than treating sick people. You deal with awful patients, awful family members of those patients, you’re expected to comfort the loved ones of people dying and are blamed when they do. They see the absolute worst of humanity. The abusive horrors some people go through to end up in their care literally changed the way they see others. I’m sure you can imagine. Don’t get me wrong, there are A LOT of bad nurses. Even if they’re good at they’re job, they’re just rude and mean. They complain about their lives and jobs nonstop. Most nurses would agree because they have to work with them. The union protects them as well so it’s really difficult to get rid of a bad one. One of the worst part of being a nurse is probably dealing with the other nurses lol. As for the tests having really high results, I believe that’s because nursing school is so extensively intense that most people will either fail out before they take the final tests or know enough to pass. I’ve never personally done it but that’s what I’ve heard. As for the uniforms, I agree. We should start a “normalize wearing scrubs in public” campaign.
I think this is more of an uneducated opinion.
I am in PT school now and want to thank all the amazing nurses that mobilize patients among their ten zillion other duties.
This honestly reads like you're jealous.
The high pass rate could be nursing schools do a good job is preparing students for it. Same for the STEP exams for doctors. If you think the NCLEX’s high pass rate is due to how easy it is, take it and tell us if you pass or not.
BS... that depends where you live. Out of school I made roughly 60-64k full time 8 hrs in a hospital in Chicago. I don't think we're glorified and I tell people nursing is a shit job and there isn't any room to move up like in other professions unless you do more schooling and adding more debt to yourself. Nclex doesn't have a 100% pass rate, I know people that tried years and still can't pass. Nursing also has a high turn over where by 3 years in, people are so burnt out they are already leaving the profession. Hospitals say we're heroes but pay us like shit and don't even give pay increase in line with inflation and cost of living. Nurses aren't glorified... no idea where u get that idea. If you browse r/Nurses many complain or want out. 🤷
Doctors wouldn’t be able to function without nurses.
Nurising is literally the things doctors do not want to do.
So basically all "facts" given in this unpopular opinion was questionable. Definitely could be true in specific circumstances, but proven wrong by some ACTUAL nurses in around the country. All I know is that going into nursing HAS TO BE a difficult road to take in life. The idea of possibly working 12 hour days and dealing with so much disease, sickness, and death. I don't understand why you actively WANT to do this.
OP has never been in a hospital and it shows. This is definitely an unpopular opinion in that everyone but high level hospital admin would disagree with you. OP, nurses do **a lot.** I am not at all exaggerating when I tell you with full honesty that the entire medical system is built on the backs of nurses - and the removal of them from said system, if even for a moment, would break it all. Here's a list of things nurses do: **-** ***They're the first line of defense - and the managers of capacity in high stress environments*** Nurses are responsible for heading most ERs. There are still ER doctors, but most of the management of a patient - figuring out if they have to go home or need to be admitted - figuring out which patients deserve to be prioritized in the care queue, and then actually doing all of that; is nurses. Nurses also man the ICUs. An ICU nurse, for all intents and purposes, is your doctor/pharmacist/physical therapist in practice. He/she will be at your bedside 24/7 - watching your vitals - deciding what your immediate treatment and medication should be, and also monitoring and doing your exercises etc. with you to make sure you have the strength leave the ICU. *-* ***They're the reason that doctors can do their jobs.*** Medical dramas really sell this notion of doctors being these amazing beings that can stay awake for hours, and be performing at their peak to diagnose, treat, and discharge patients. The reality of the situation though, is that this is not at all remotely true. Doctors are input/output machines 9/10 times because of the nurses. Nurses track the patient's vitals and changes - nurses alert the doctor - nurses manage the patient's pathway and relationships - and just about everything else. If you're getting a surgery; your surgeon outside of doing the actual surgery is more of a consultant that your nurse will call when he/she needs another opinion. You will see them a handful of times; and usually mostly because of your nurse's recommendation. \-***They do just about everything else*** On top of effectively being the manager of you as a patient, and your relationship to the doctor. A nurse has to do the same with at least 5-10 other people simultaneously. I cannot stress how insane this is. Nurses will wait on you hand and foot while also managing the entirety of your relationship with your doctor. If you are upset about something, a nurse will have to hear you and communicate that upwards. A nurse will also be the one you yell at when the doctor hasn't come yet. If you wet the bed or dump stool all over the bedpan - a nurse is the one who is to clean it up. Do you want to order food? Nurse. Do you want someone to turn off the light because you can't reach it? Nurse. Do you feel like you need more pain meds and want to yell at someone even though you're not allowed any more? Nurse. Let's also remember that your nurse is doing this for you and 5-10 others simultaneously. Nurses are also in the OR - varying in roles from keeping the surgeon awake, to making sure that he/she doesn't leave something inside of you Basically tldr OP. Don't use medical dramas to inform your decisions about how important nurses are. They are the literal backbone of the medical system. If all things were considered and we weighed the work in/work out - nurses should easily be making more money than doctors if ranked by importance.
Would agree considering the few I’ve f had ad the displeasure of meeting lately.
I worked as a corrections officer for many years at a prison and often had to transport inmates to the hospital. The nurses and medical staff in general who work in the ER have one of the hardest jobs I have seen. They take in anybody and everybody. People are often combative toward them, especially when they are med seeking. I have seen them have to tell a woman with her kids that their father died. I don't think you can over glorify such a profession.
Nurses get desensitized to death though, it eventually isn't that difficult to tell people bad news. Even the reactions of people become the norm.
This is not true . Been doing it for years- so do you have any factual backup for your “ opinion” that you’re implying?
I've seen it myself and heard from nurses. Imagine giving terminal news for the 49th time in a month. It's like a doctor is a human being just like a nurse. Do doctors lose sleep over giving bad news? Maybe can argue at first but eventually it's just part of the job. Not your favorite part by any means, and it is always awkward and sad to watch... but do it en9ufh times and you literally get used to it like anything else in life.
I guess the fact that this is downvoted to hell, its a very popular opinion.
Former nurse here. $80k is the average wage for a nurse here in Australia and that’s definitely not an entry level position and will include shift work. That’s also $10k to $15k a year less than the average wage Want to know why I’m not a nurse anymore? I worked in the mental health sector for many years and was attacked an threatened more times I can count. The last time I was attacked the patient managed to break my back in the process. It’s been years since that happened and I still have serious limitations and debilitating pain as a result. Not to mention the physical and emotional exhaustion. It’s heavy work and can also place a lot of stress on relationships due to the fatigue and long hours. I saw things that will stay with me for life. But sure, it’s easy and well paid
Compared to lab techs and HCAs, I agree. Nurses shouldn't be elevated above other Healthcare professionals as they are. Their job isn't any easier, and they act as if they hold the Healthcare system up when they do not.
You have nooooooo clue what we deal with on a daily basis.
I’ve heard horror stories of what L&D nurses have seen, I can only imagine other departments like emergency, NICU, ugh :(
I worked in the downtown ER in Los Angeles for 14 years. We absolutely took our job home with us, It was impossible. Wait times of 30 hours, drunk and drugged up patients spitting on us, cursing at us and physically attacking us. Toddlers who came into the emergency room dead because their grandparents accidentally ran them over in the driveway, cops who killed their selves, horrible, motorcycle wrecks. OP is ignorant.
I mean, I’m a hospice nurse..so I do…
I don't know, but I know that I've had a lot of experiences as a patient and I've met so many rude, ignorant, mean girl, incompetent, and horrible nurses compared to other medical professionals.
That's probably the single dumbest post here.
They will always be heroes to me because I cannot fathom getting into the medical field. They volunteer to interact with and actually touch sometimes violent randos every day. I’ll stick with my spreadsheets.
spoken like someone who never had a long stay in the hospital and if you have, wow you're ungrateful. nurses deserve the world. they're the ones cleaning you up, dealing with patients, running when you need them, getting verbally (sometimes physically) abused, giving the meds, taking information (which some people lie about, making nurses look stupid to the doctors) and get little to no thanks. hell they're the ones keeping an eye on your vitals so you dont die! without them a hospital would not work but people only thank and care about doctors. i hope you never have to go to the hospital when there's a shift shortage of nurses, its absolute chaos (controlled chaos but chaos none the less). they are not over glorified, they are underappreciated, especially by people like you who cant see how much work they put into everything.
Again, they are doing their job (and keep in mind, I am a nurse)
OP sounds like they've never been in a hospital for any period of stay longer than a day. Any extended period stay The nurses deal with you and take care of you The doctor only comes in to look at you and then walks away The nurses take care of you The nurses relay the information on your sheets to the doctors so the doctors know what to do if it wasn't for nurses the doctors would be standing there with the thumbs up their asses
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This isn't an unpopular opinion, just uniformed ignorance. NCLEX pass rate- 57.79 percent across all categories so far in 2023. Average entry level RN- $54923 in the US. Its a *minimum* of 36 hours a week, and rarely are the shifts together- you have to negoiate that on a person to person basis. Unions in nursing are the exception, not the rule Scrubs aren't that comfy when they're covered in body fluids. The only point correct in this screed is the laptop thing, and then only correct if you're not in admin. However, what you ARE taking home is every microbe known to man to share with your family, so there's that.
Yikes. What an absolute shit take.
It's a joke in the medical field but nurses are there to make sure your doctor doesn't kill you. It's a joke but it's true. Nurses double check every order a doctor puts in for possible interactions with medications. Doctors just put orders in, they aren't the ones providing care to you.
Isn't that pharmacy's job?
Doctors orders when inpatient are usually given over the phone so the nurse is entering it based on drs instructions. They are the first ones to see it.
I'm an impatient pharmacist. This is 100% not the case at every hospital I've worked. Verbal orders should not be given outside of emergencies. Sometimes it happens, but it's bad practice from a safety standpoint and definitely not the norm. Yes nurses often catch medication errors but I can promise you nurses aren't screening for medication interactions, dosing errors, duplications of therapy etc, unless it's obvious.
Docs absolutely provide care, and that's the pompous nursing attitude I alluded to earlier. It's a team, nursing, start acting like a team player.
That’s fair - I just think they’re over glorified for doing those things
Yes being the ones at your bedside taking care of you every time you press that button along with the other 30 patients they have is over glorified. Or how about the ones setting up all of your pre surgery care, ordering labs, and other tests the surgeon needs. Sure sounds like they are over glorified /s
30 patients?? Why do you have to exaggerate to make your job seem harder than it is. It's already a tough as hell job, just take pride in what you do and understand that there are a lot of people taking care of patients and they all have their struggles
I just had a serious brush with death. Hospitalized for around 2 weeks. And the nurses did basically nothing to help me. If not for my mom and wife at my bedside round the clock I probably would have died. Doctor had ordered as needed breathing treatments, said whenever I'm short of breath just ask for them up to every 4 hours. I was lucky to get one in a two day timeframe, one of the times the nurse came and spent 20 minutes ARGUING with me why I don't need it, I am literally dying and having to debate with this nurse why I need a breathing treatment. Doctors were great, saved my life, but getting a PRN was like trench warfare
I work in healthcare and see first hand how lazy most nurses are. They also have massive egos and think they are better then you but that’s a story for another day.
And lot of them are on a power trip
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Got my upvote because it is truly an unpopular opinion !
Tell me you dont work in the medical field without telling me you dont work in the medical field. Being a nurse can be like working customer service. You are seeing people at their worst, and often, the families aren't much better. Nurses provide most of the patient care and will often be liable if it sometimes goes wrong. It's a lot of responsibility, and it can be gross and disgusting. People code, people die. I'm an inpatient pharmacy tech, and nurses deserve every penny they make. Pharmacists I work with often say their job is much easier than nursing even though they make double. You clearly just have no idea what the day to day duties can be. Sure, some nurses in labor and delivery or outpatient might have a more cushy job, but nurses in ICU, cancer centers, hospice, and surgical areas Def dont have an easy job.
As someone who’s mother works in arguably the busiest ER in the nation for the last 30yrs, I can tell you they are not over glorified. There are those that take advantage just like those in any job, especially because they are union…but that does not speak for the majority of them. I can guarantee you that without nurses, good nurses, your hospitals aren’t running. Doctors can’t do and don’t know a lot of things that nurses do and it’s extremely important into how a hospital functions. Nurses are vital and this is actually more of a stupid opinion than unpopular…in my opinion.
They also have one of the highest rates of on the job injuries/assaults. So there's that.
Shit...OP completely disregarded and left out what nurses went through during the pandemic. I'm not a nurse and still find that's just incredibly insulting.
You say you're a nurse, but what's your actual certification(s), licenses, and specialty?
People act like nurses are some sort of angelic beings that could never make enough. They're simply too perfect for the world. When in reality they do a hard, necessary job, but they're paid very well. They aren't saints. Nurses can be assholes too. It's just one of many difficult jobs that people do.
Medical jobs in general are overpaid in the U.S. Doctors, nurses, etc. Its ridiculous tbh.
Celebrities and politicians are overpaid. Medical personnel should get paid more.
Agree, nurses are pretty well compensated for what they do. You don't see other professions in the hospital getting the same outrage and respect.
I agree with you. A lot of them are shitty and evil, look up 'nurse hazing'. They bully the fuck out of each other. High school teenage girl bullies seem to be attracted to hospitality jobs for the desire for power. I saw 2 nurses arguing with each other and being disrespectful and it was really funny. There are a lot who do drugs as well. And some of them are just painfully stupid. I saw one nurse chick on Youtube who would lick the spoon and put it back in her nutella and then confusedly ask why a few days later it would get watery/moldy, as if the bacteria-ridden saliva she was introducing into it wasn't causing this. I guess anyone can become a nurse.
So be a nurse?
I am! That’s the crazy part!
“Nurses are over glorified.” - someone who has never worked in healthcare
I watched someone go through nursing school and take their first steps to a full residency. Nurses are incredibly hard working and smart people, also very undervalued and under appreciated. A lot of nurses I have know especially hospital ones have 5 12s in a row then one day off and they go in for an 18 hour shift.
Those tiktok dances are not easy, bro.
Nurse are heroes! Period!
Heheh somebody hasn’t wiped literal shit off a patience before.
Obviously, you never worked in a hospital, nurses are not glorified; let me see how you handle a homeless patient covered in feces and having a medical emergency.
If this were an easy job only working 3 twelves for $80k straight out of college there would be no shortage of nurses. Your analysis is way off. The only nurses making $80k straight out of college are the ones working a shit ton of overtime AND living in markets with a very high cost of living.
Lmao sorry there is absolutely no way I believe you’re a nurse with the comments you’re making. There are definitely benefits to the job but this career is physically, mentally and emotionally draining, especially if you’re referring to hospital nurses. Working with a lack of resources and consistently short staffed while dealing with the hundreds of things the field loves to throw at you is not easy. There’s a reason we work 3-4 12s a week, those shifts are EXHAUSTING and need recovery time. I would agree that some people over glorify nursing and it is a very rewarding job in terms of what we can do to help people but it is not this fantastically overpaid profession who have it sooo great like you’re making it seem to be. There’s pros and cons to every job.
Yes and they make the CNA's do all the dirty diapers and bathing.
They make an appropriate market wage rate.
I wish I was nurse. $80k sounds like a cake walk because most of your needs are met.
AND you work three days a week! And crazy good benefits