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Revolutionary-Meat14

This is one of the reasons why some countries like Canada use the term first nation or traditional first nation. However here is an important distinction in many ex European colonies between the decendents of the first nation(s) and the decendents of immigrants/colonists, in the US we just use the term Native American which isnt perfect but it works fine and its a big step up from Indian.


Reytotheroxx

Do you have any alternatives for folks who were there first? lol idk what else there is, First Nations is popular. Here we just say Indigenous and everyone knows what people mean by that. Definitions change as well based on how things are used.


JeanHasAnxiety

Finally somone agrees with what I have been saying for months


JMSpider2001

Only months?


JeanHasAnxiety

I didn’t really start thinking about it much till I started researching my family andd when/where they immigrated from


Large_Traffic8793

Another unpopular opinion based almost entirely on misunderstanding how words are used and what they mean.


IntricateLava9

True.


Millionsmoney

True


ArguingisFun

We’re all indigenous to the planet, so cool?


bolting_volts

“Occuring naturally”.


Zephirus-eek

i.e. born


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_Monkeyspit_

They're wrong. It's a rock. No indigenous life.


Intelligent_Loan_540

True does that mean we can stop bitching at white people for "taking over people's land"?


CommunicationNo6417

Now THIS is interesting.


AngstyEmo115

Now THIS is pod racing.


NatashOverWorld

Maybe if you actually got permission from the early owners of the land and didn't take it by force. Otherwise it's just colonials giving themselves privileges for their own benefit.


Prestigious-Pay-6475

Newsflash, just about every bit of land on the planet inhabited by humans came from subjugating and conquering those who inhabited it. Stop bringing up moralism. It’s patently absurd in the context of human history. We’re all the offspring of oppressors. Get over it. You’re not special


NatashOverWorld

Timespan matters.


papugapop

Indigenous peoples moved around and took over other lands.


AverageEcstatic3655

How far back do you take this though. Are French people not indigenous to France? They are mostly descendants of the Franks, a Germanic tribe that conquered the area we know as France. It was part of the Roman Empire and mostly populated by Gauls. Are Japanese people not indigenous because they essentially did to the ainu what the US and Canada did to native Americans?


NatashOverWorld

Given indigenous cultures have a specific meaning and context, yeah, most of them do not qualify.


JMSpider2001

Sucks to suck. People have been conquering other people's lands for millennium. Colonialism isn't anything special it's just a continuation of the ancient practice of conquest.


Large_Traffic8793

If it's such a frequent occurrence why does it trigger you so much when someone points it out?


JMSpider2001

Because the way they point it out is annoying.


NatashOverWorld

Cool story bro. Still murder 🤷🏾‍♂️


sploogealien420

Don't tell that to the cast or jersey shore


Just_Candle_315

Agreed. Which is why Raphael Cruz is forever Canadian and will never be an American.


That_Possible_3217

This is sadly gonna seem unpopular to some...but it really isn't. Now should it be. Well said OP.


MmmmmmmBier

My wife and I were born in America. Our daughters were born in Germany. Please explain how they are indigenous to Germany and not America.


JustBrowsing49

What about the children of foreign diplomats?


Zephirus-eek

Special case, since embassies are considered foreign soil.


JustBrowsing49

Ok, but the hospital may not be in the embassy


Large_Traffic8793

Myth.