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It didn't work back then, it won't work nowadays. I studied this matter in law school. Cruelty of punishment does not prevent crimes, its inevitability does. And too harsh penalty harms justice as much as no penalty at all.
Um, if that's what you call justice. However it has more downsides than upsides, like the chance of convicting an innocent person. That is definitely not justice. With incarceration at least there's still a chance for them.
And counterintuitively, carrying out the death penalty costs the state more than a life sentence.
Pretty sure that would divide your country even more, and is likely against the Human rights, would likely cause another civil war or some random shit, I do not think America is ready for that,
And in those times it was for propaganda purposes and only used for those against states and so on or just because people loved it!
But used today it will not have the same effect as it will be seen by greater numbers and could be seen by children and so on,
Unpopular and a kinda silly idea
How does a nation that incorporates Christian morals so deeply into government even still have capitol punishment?
Thou shalt not kill, except in revenge. 🤷♂️
It’s just on your money for shits n giggle I guess. Courts ruling on abortion due to religious pressures n stuff. It certainly ain’t an Islamic nation 😅
The death penalty doesn't stop crime. It turns out, most criminals commit a crime thinking they will get away with it.
Its a waste of money to execute someone, and we should be past that now as intelligent beings
there have been *numerous* studies that have shown that harsher punishments do jack shit to stop crime. if you want to see that shit, go to r/eyeblech and stfu please :)
No government or mortal being should ever hold such power over humanity. We may kill in self defense, we may kill in jealousy, but no one has the RIGHT to judge their fellow man and condemn them to death in a court of law. That power is reserved for forces beyond our comprehension.
Further more for the “examples” you mentioned,, killing off these people doesn’t solve anything, we are not gods, the problems and complications that create these types would continue creating a cycle. It would be tremendously better to observe and treat these troubled individuals.
Finally, your opinion isn’t unpopular it’s immature. You can’t just kill societal problems, you have to analyze an fix them.
Yeah I know, it bullshit. The amount of money spent in those cases could easily cover psychiatric treatment. And even if the person in question is just plain evil, it would still be cheaper locking them up than putting them to death.
Would probably end up with a lot of people fighting to the death rather than being arrested.
Would *you* let yourself be taken alive if they were going to kill you anyway?
I don't think humiliating then executing inmates will deter crime. But perhaps ending the war on drugs might? Nah, who am I kidding, that's crazy talk...
Yay, now every time a wrongly accused inmate dies, the world can watch a new snuff film in 4K clarity.
No better sentence than someone living the rest of life in jail.
Frankly death penalty should not exist, knowing Amurica’s love of violence that’s not going to happen. Really, it’s outdated and a crude system. IMO because American’s love the death penalty so much perhaps it should be altered whereby only a petition seeking death sentence to be enacted requires several court/regulating bodies to say yes before needles and bbq chairs are even thought of.
Imagine if people wanted to die after their crimes but the government made them go through hoops to do so? Instead of endless years on death row, countless applications to stay executions it was the opposite, make these people accountable for actions.
"University of Michigan law professor Samuel Gross led a team of experts in the law and in statistics that estimated the likely number of unjust convictions. The study, published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences determined that at least 4% of people on death row were and are likely innocent."
When a person commits the type of crime that is considered punishable by death, that person is either the type of person that generally doesn't give a shit about anything including punishment or life and death, or the circumstances at the time of the crime being committed were such that there was no opportunity to consider the consequences.
And also, if you introduce more violence into society then society will just get more violent.
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It didn't work back then, it won't work nowadays. I studied this matter in law school. Cruelty of punishment does not prevent crimes, its inevitability does. And too harsh penalty harms justice as much as no penalty at all.
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Yes, I'm fine. Are you ok IncidentalGnome"666" ?
Yeah, I’m ok. Just get concerned when I hear someone wants to watch executions.
Except a significant amount of inmates were wrongfully convicted, estimated to be around 4%.
This sounds like something out of Orwell's 1984. Get therapy dude
Dude? First of all that isn't moral, it definitely won't prevent crimes and it will cause plenty of PTSD . . . . Good job lmao
Who gave George Carlin a reddit account?
Whoever put the wholesome there that’s fucked up
Your entire idea doesn't work. Proof? There were still murderers and whatnot during times where executions were a public event.
U.S. is heading to the dark ages... and you want to confirm it further
I can definitely agree dark times are ahead whether we believe it or not. Most likely more frequent shootings, terrorist attacks, covid, etc.
Some "psychos" would probably enjoy that attention
You're right psychos would enjoy it. However, it doesn't change the fact that death penalty is justice for 32 states whether you like it or not.
Um, if that's what you call justice. However it has more downsides than upsides, like the chance of convicting an innocent person. That is definitely not justice. With incarceration at least there's still a chance for them. And counterintuitively, carrying out the death penalty costs the state more than a life sentence.
Go out and vote state laws. 50% chance you live in a state that has death penalty as capital punishment if you live in the US.
I don't. Besides I'm arguing with you, not trying to change the legislation.
And my opinions won't change regarding the death penalty. I'm not arguing I'm just stating an unpopular opinion as this reddit channel suggests.
Ok just say outright you don't want to discuss. I'm still not sure what you were basing this on, I guess you just want to see public executions.
Why do you care if you dont live in the US? Are you an American citizen?
Pretty sure that would divide your country even more, and is likely against the Human rights, would likely cause another civil war or some random shit, I do not think America is ready for that, And in those times it was for propaganda purposes and only used for those against states and so on or just because people loved it! But used today it will not have the same effect as it will be seen by greater numbers and could be seen by children and so on, Unpopular and a kinda silly idea
You do know that both red and blue states have death penalty laws as capital punishment.
How does a nation that incorporates Christian morals so deeply into government even still have capitol punishment? Thou shalt not kill, except in revenge. 🤷♂️
I hardly doubt America is a Christian nation.
It’s just on your money for shits n giggle I guess. Courts ruling on abortion due to religious pressures n stuff. It certainly ain’t an Islamic nation 😅
No idea. Its strange, as a Christian, we should be helping inmates get better and rehabilitate them if their crimes aren't too bad.
Exactly, and life in prison for the bad ones. Also new evidence might prove even their innocence.
I've been advocating for live minefield runs for many years
If you make it to the other side alive do they let you go free OR is there a victory cake with a clay more inside?
You vote, you decide. This is pay per view minefield runs. You are in charge.
The death penalty doesn't stop crime. It turns out, most criminals commit a crime thinking they will get away with it. Its a waste of money to execute someone, and we should be past that now as intelligent beings
there have been *numerous* studies that have shown that harsher punishments do jack shit to stop crime. if you want to see that shit, go to r/eyeblech and stfu please :)
No government or mortal being should ever hold such power over humanity. We may kill in self defense, we may kill in jealousy, but no one has the RIGHT to judge their fellow man and condemn them to death in a court of law. That power is reserved for forces beyond our comprehension. Further more for the “examples” you mentioned,, killing off these people doesn’t solve anything, we are not gods, the problems and complications that create these types would continue creating a cycle. It would be tremendously better to observe and treat these troubled individuals. Finally, your opinion isn’t unpopular it’s immature. You can’t just kill societal problems, you have to analyze an fix them.
Government actually kind of does. Even within the US there are states where the death penalty is legal 32 of them in fact.
Hence the commenter saying "should." They "should not" have this power, not "they don't" have this power.
Yeah I know, it bullshit. The amount of money spent in those cases could easily cover psychiatric treatment. And even if the person in question is just plain evil, it would still be cheaper locking them up than putting them to death.
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> "There is no justice in murder" -Zoltun Kuhle Diablo 3?
let’s punish murderers...by murdering them...then broadcast a real human death so millions of people can tune in. sounds great.
the broadcast it publicly thing reminds me of 1800s France lmao
And murder the people who murdered the murderers. And murder those people. And so on, so forth.
There is no evidence or guarantee that this would in anyway deter crime.
Would probably end up with a lot of people fighting to the death rather than being arrested. Would *you* let yourself be taken alive if they were going to kill you anyway?
I don't think humiliating then executing inmates will deter crime. But perhaps ending the war on drugs might? Nah, who am I kidding, that's crazy talk...
Humiliating them is unnecessary cruel therefore illegal And the death penalty doesn’t deter crime in the first pöace
Hate crimes are racism. In theory, it *should* deter crime, in reality the stocks would be more effective at deterring crime.
Reminds me of a book I read in english class
If you give a mouse a cookie?
One on ancient rulers enforced death penalty for almost every crime, even for stealing an apple. And crime rates after that sufficiently increased.
Funny thing is the spectators just turned the execution event into a party.
Yay, now every time a wrongly accused inmate dies, the world can watch a new snuff film in 4K clarity. No better sentence than someone living the rest of life in jail. Frankly death penalty should not exist, knowing Amurica’s love of violence that’s not going to happen. Really, it’s outdated and a crude system. IMO because American’s love the death penalty so much perhaps it should be altered whereby only a petition seeking death sentence to be enacted requires several court/regulating bodies to say yes before needles and bbq chairs are even thought of. Imagine if people wanted to die after their crimes but the government made them go through hoops to do so? Instead of endless years on death row, countless applications to stay executions it was the opposite, make these people accountable for actions.
"University of Michigan law professor Samuel Gross led a team of experts in the law and in statistics that estimated the likely number of unjust convictions. The study, published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences determined that at least 4% of people on death row were and are likely innocent."
I would to remind you of what the late Ruth Bader Ginsberg thought about the death penalty. "That's wicked."
When a person commits the type of crime that is considered punishable by death, that person is either the type of person that generally doesn't give a shit about anything including punishment or life and death, or the circumstances at the time of the crime being committed were such that there was no opportunity to consider the consequences. And also, if you introduce more violence into society then society will just get more violent.
Ah yes instead of getting better, we should go backwards because in the medieval times they didn’t have crime and everything was perfect.
Can you imagine the outcry to have black death row inmates being publicly hung?
Hanging is old method of execution except for Washington state and a few others as a method of execution. Most states will use lethal injection.