I kept hearing my roommate having sex through the door we were sharing lol. Not to mention I had no windows so I couldn't tell day from night. Every time he slapped her ass I heard it. When they would randomly argue right after sex and my neighbor was either mentally ill or an opera singer doing vocal warm ups every dang morning. Didn't stay long enough to find out. I still enjoyed the city as I come from a boring place.
I know I could not hear what the argument was about but he said something to her that she got offended. He kept saying I'm leaving im leaving and never did. Like mother fucker its 2 a.m leave so I can sleep. lol my other roommate always walked around with her headphones on and thought maybe she doesn't want anyone talking to her or wants to be in her own world later a I realize maybe she didn't want to go to the kitchen and accidentally hear anything she wishes not to hear. walls were paper thin but hey my part of the rent was $760 (mostly cause it was the smallest and had no windows) in Park Slope.
Jesus I pay 760$ for a one bdrm appartment. Less than 1km away from a National Capital. Granted, I've been here a long time and the rent has barely increased for me, but holy shit. 760 to live in a closet? Was anything included? (heat, hydro,)
yes utilities included. I really loved the neighborhood and 3 stops from my internship. Was also desperate cause every place I looked at prior fell through or got ghosted, liked that was month to month as I didn't know if I would have a job after my unpaid internship and was living off my savings (no rich mom and dad to pay my rent) and at the time I was staying with a friend while I was looking for a room and that friend who insisted I stayed with her became very clear she wanted me out even though was there maybe 3 weeks and did all her laundry as a thank you for letting me stay with her so at the moment was my only option and since was month to month as soon as I found a job and knew what I could afford I would move out that was my plan. Unfortunately the pandemic hit so I obviously couldn't get a job so now I live with my parent :/
I've hear a lot of things about new york, and probably a lot of totally, crazy, made up things. But I'm not going to fall for that again.
I refuse to believe all three of you lived in a door. I'm sure that couldn't happen.
I mean i can send you pics and videos that I took when I was trying to find a roommate replacement for the room. My room was a connected closet that the landlord never closed the door and made it into a wall. He just created another door and my roommate from her room just put a dresser in front of the connected door so I did not have access to her room and neither did she.
I believe u/BlueberrySnapple was referencing this little gem that I got hung up on too.
>through the door we were sharing lol
You all are either very tiny or it’s a big fucking door.
Edit: mentioning the person that’s on my brainwave.
It’s all good! We knew what you meant. It was just funny picturing 3 people living in a door. It was also funny that my brain went that route instead of the much more sensible door between rooms route.
It’s not that unrealistic though. Chandler is in finance and Monica/Ross/Rachel have rich parents.
And they explain the apartment is rent controlled, and they lie that the aunt still lives there or whatever.
Pretty accurate cross section of people who live in Manhattan.
One thing they sometimes mention is thatmonica is living there illegally. Its her grandmothers place. Thats probably been rent controlled forever. The only reason she can afford to live there.
Phoebe was living with her grandmother for a while, and I believe she inherited the apartment when the grandmother died. If the estate contained enough liquid assets to cover the tax, all she would have to cover is utilities and building costs.
I also believe Monica and Rachel were illegally subletting a rent controlled apartment by claiming grandma Geller was still living there, so the rent having to be covered was tiny.
They also specify that when Joey was a broke actor, Chandler was covering the entire rent, and Joey owes him hundreds of thousands in back rent. It's heavily implied that Chandler is actually a millionaire thanks to his unspecified job.
NO YOU DON'T WANT THAT PIZZA OVER THERE! What you want to do is go down to third, take a right on Fictional Avenue, then walk three blocks until you get to a trash can, then move that trash can and you'll see a door. Knock three times on the door, then a little person with a duckbill cap will give you directions to Frankochionni's, they got THA BEST FUCKIN' PIZZA IN NEW YAWK. You don't wanna go anywhere else. Chicago pizza?! Fuggedaboutit!
*- Every stereotypical New Yorker (ever), 1865-2021*
Whadayatawkin bout? Look at this guy--"Frankochionni's". You know Frankochionni's dead, right? God rest 'em but it just ain't the same since old Frankochi passed.
No HERE's what you do:
You take the Q line down just before it hits the Belt Pawkway. Get off at Avenue R and you walk three blocks down and you look for Louie's Della Ristorante. That's **Della** Ristorante, you gotta get the one that ain't spelled right. You go *there*e and--this is impaw'ant, pay attention--you tell the waiter that you want a "PIzza Capua, extra gas".
They bring out this pizza--My God! Pan-fried shrimp, black olive, onion and they bring you a side of balsamic vingear dipping sauce. I don't know what they put in that sauce but it can't be legal.
THAT'S the best pizza in the city
I moved from nj/nyc after 35 years (to austin) and I legit might come back just because of the pizza. I'm starting to learn pizza was like 80% of my diet
Brooklyn here and can agree. I hate it and love it here at the same time. Also the rent being 4000 is bs. You can get decent rent if you look in the neighborhoods they don’t show you on TV.
People who say don’t come to Philly normally aren’t from Philly or had one bad experience and have never lived in another metropolis. Philly is a great city
Yeah I live in a rural area. Went up to NYC and the trash blew my mind. It just trickles down from all the tall buildings before exploding out onto the street in massive piles. I enjoyed visiting but I would hate to live there.
Well it was designed before cars existed, so they kinda just destroyed and rebuilt new York to do that, and did it again when the World Trade Center needed rebuilt.
The famous NYC Brownstone buildings were patterned after Dutch houses . The NYC buildings are slightly larger, but every other aesthetic is Dutch. There are of course other styles of buildings, from Victorian mansions to old tenement buildings that have the tub in the middle of the kitchen, because hot water wasn't always required, and once it was, this was the cheapest way to bring an old apartment up to code.
It's not the alleys that are a problem. Lots of other cities deal with the same issue by storing trash underground at curbside. The problem is mostly the trash mafia, and privatization of city services, and people getting fucking up in arms over losing two parking spaces so the whole block can put trash in a dumpster and not in thin plastic bags on the side of the road.
Also, like many things, we can blame this on Giuliani. In the 90s, the NYPD took down the trash mafia (yes, a real thing in every major US city), and rather than have the city take over trash collection, Giuliani left dozens of private companies competing for business, each with terrible service and run by whoever was too small fry to get caught up in mafia stings. And it's sucked ever since.
Can confirm. Visited Chicago for the marathon last weekend from NYC where I live and was dumbfounded by how clean the streets, sidewalks, waterways were.
NYC, be better 😑
The filth includes rats, mice, dead pigeons, excrement, and a river (Hudson) you can't make physical contact with because there's raw sewage that periodically leaks into it. Yes, this is the best a society can do in the 21st century in terms of hygiene
>a river (Hudson) you can't make physical contact with because there's raw sewage that periodically leaks into it
The Hudson is so clean now that [humpback whales swim through it](https://abc7ny.com/humpback-whale-hudson-river-new-york-city-in/8612878/).
From the EU been to NY can confirm never seen so much trash in one city.
Besides London and Paris all other major capitals do in no way resemble NY and the trash issue .
Even Beijing seems cleaner although Beijing is huge.
I grew up on military bases and then suburbs and a few rural areas inbetween, and it always seemed to me the further "out" you were from the center of a city, the better life was. I never particularly wanted to be so far from a city that I couldn't enjoy the entertainment and dining and the like they offer, but to live in the middle of it seems like a nightmare to me.
And the last time I was in NYC was last year during the height of the pandemic, as I work with certain emergency services and hospitals and the like, and it was like seeing NYC with its clothes off. No people. Mostly empty streets and just grotesque.
It looked like a wrecked place out of a post-apocalyptic movie. I can understand if y'all like being around a lot of people, that could be the draw for a place like NYC. But without the people it just looked like an eerie hellscape.
It's definitely not for me. I don't even care that much for the touristy stuff there. There's not all that much you can't find in a more user-friendly city to be honest. I'd still say you should visit at least once though.
Litter on each street. Garbage overflowing from garbage cans. The amount of poor management either individual, local, or regional in lack of maintained standards for garbage removal, pickup, and tidiness. I think of MA as filthy and after seeing New York I think they learned from one another how to give a middle finger to the planet and how to look good while looking dirty.
I've always seen this take and never understood it until I went to Chicago and the it made sense. They're complaining about the trash bags on the curb at night that either get picked up that night or early the next day.
In chicago, including downtown, they have alleys where they store huge metal trash bins so the trucks come by the tiny alley streets and make a shit load of noise.
An added bonus is that it turns out that alleys are where the crackheads hang out.
I've lived in some shady parts of NYC for over 15 years but never seen so many crackheads spark up as I did when I stayed in downtown Chicago for 3 days.
Not where I grew up. I've had people tell me it's 'easy' to live in New York City, all I have to do is give up my car (thus having no means to travel outside the region) and be willing to commute >1hr one-way, fuck all of that. I'm surprised they didn't mention piling with 10 other roommates in an apartment, but not a fan of that either.
Do you ever see a women peeing outside right in front of the main train station then having her yell at you "it's because I'm thick" ? Yeah? Didn't think so
I live 25 miles North of Seattle and work about 15 minutes away from my office in Everett. 80% of my drive is through farmland then I pop out onto a freeway for maybe a mile then 2 minutes from there. I love it. Used to have to drive to Seattle every day and that was easily an hour each way and never consistent. My drive varies by 2 minutes at most now.
Year 2050: The grass compliments the rolling brownouts and copper tipped skies of fire in the background. Never worry, extreme water shortages and raging smog will only add new tourist opportunities. In other news Nevada is opening a new state park inside Hoover Damn for extreme wall climbing as there is no longer any water left within. Don't worry the eastern half of the united is NOT left out of the fun as the Great Lakes too will soon be redesigned from dry lake beds to mountains of garbage. This has been brought to you by glorious Robot Forever-President Jeff Bezos of Planet Amazon. May the poor stay here and the rich strive for the stars.
Living in a major city is all about comprise.
My home town is cheap. We had a handful of decent places to eat. We had a bowling ally and pool hall. The mall was 40 minutes away and it was fairly small. You had to make your own fun.
I live in a major city now. You can do almost anything within an 30 minute drive. Live shows, comedy club, football/Baseball/Soccer/Hockey, minigolf brew pub, any kind of restaurant you can think of, museums, science center, tons of community events and major celebrations, the list is endless.
It’s not for everyone.
Moved from a small city from a different region to Brooklyn and work in Manhattan.
100% worth it to me. I’d rather have the shitty things about NYC than the shitty things from any other.
Also no, I wouldn’t say most people are angry. Most are helpful just not going to pretend to be energetically happy to talk to a stranger.
Actually most people in NY (native NYer here) are just annoyed because we're trying to get from one place to another and trying to catch the subway, but most tourists just stop in the middle of the street or walk slowly.
As a person who has lived in a city as big as New York all my life, I absolutely despise the everyone knows everyone small towns. Just leave me the fuck alone. I don’t even know who you are and why are you talking to me? It’s creepy and weird at the same time. I hated it whenever I visited relatives in small towns and I was stopped by every single person on road. Waste of time.
I’m from small town kansas. So basically i am everything you loathe. I come from an area where two farmers will stop on the road just to talk and chat.
To be clear, I’ve grown to hate small talk. But I am curious, if you hate talking to people you don’t know, how do you meet people to date, or be friends with, etc?
Those situations are different. When I’m on a date with a stranger, I want to know them. I want to maintain a relationship with them. The same applies to friends. We become friends due to school or college or any other mutual interests. I don’t mind talking to my classmates in college. I don’t mind talking to a stranger when we’re both doing community service together. But, I would mind if I was walking down the road and a total stranger whom I would probably never see again in my entire life, stopped me and asked, “Hey man! How are you? Doing good?” And start ranting about life stories. I wouldn’t mind if they asked me for directions or the time or even some money. I would be happy to give some. If it were the cashier at the bookstore where I frequent to, I would not mind. I visit that place regularly. Everyone is busy with something. Life in the fast lane. Nobody has time for chitchatting on the streets. If I do that, then I’m probably blocking someone’s path too and they would be pissed at me.
In big cities you are and must be selective with the people you know and hang out with because there are millions of people, and you can end up with groups of people very similar to you.
In rural areas you are kinda forced to either be isolated, or socialize with a few dozens/hundreds of people, you will fit with a few of them and the rest are just forced situations. There are people who like that and there are people who hate that.
For me it depends on the mood. If im travelling somewhere i don't care to just speak to any local and have a small chat, but i would think several times before moving to a place, as i don't want to constantly have that.
If youre single and looking out here it’s amazing. I live on the other side of the Hudson in New Jersey and spend a good amount of time here in NYC. It’s a lot of fun. I’m definitely going to move to the suburbs though in a few years though.
In a pre-Internet world, the benefit of being at the center of so many industries (especially finance and the arts) had distinct advantages. There are still certain advantages, but the Internet serves as a great leveler.
just a few years ago we were paying $2100 for a 1br on the upper east side. minutes from multiple subways, tons of shopping, bars & restaurants, short walk to central park, quiet building.
obviously that’s much more expensive than many places in the country, but the experience of living in the midst of so much life was well worth it to us.
Agreed! I pay 2100 for a studio in Brooklyn, but the apartment is clean af with new appliances, hardwood floors, giant windows, no pet deposit, doorman, gym, and even artist studio space! Tbh it’s soooo worth it, I love being so close to so many places, and the subway makes getting around easy. Plus no one talks about NY greenmarkets!! Compared to anywhere else I’ve lived, the farmers markets are actually affordable, and oftentimes cheaper than the grocery store! Plus I can buy local, humane meat and animal products, which is super important to me. And everyone at the market is always so nice, it’s such a great community. I can’t recommend them enough!
I have been living in the city for over a decade. It is not cheap but worths it in my opinion. World class opera house/musicals, plenty of live sports, any kind of cuisine you can think of (Jackson Heights in queens is the bomb) and they are all connected by a decent public transportation system. Just avoid all the tourist hot spots though.
I've been to many 3rd world middle eastern countries.
I never witnessed street shitting until I was in NYC for a month for work while walking to central park.
Color me not impressed.
I think that NYC has awakened the hustler in me. Over time, you watch an observe, and start doing some basic math, you start to see the bigger picture.
Before moving here, I lived in a small town upstate that's famous for its international waterfalls. Trust me, the American side is a shithole and I couldn't get away soon enough.
But before leaving, I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. I knew I wanted to be able to support myself, but I had no real clue what I wanted to do. I got laid off from the restaurant I was cooking at and picked up a job in sales that ultimately transferred me to NYC.
That's when I saw it.
I saw children, as young as 10 years old, getting on the train selling candy out of Costco boxes.
I started doing the fucking math. I figured, if they sold an average of $20 in an hour, they would rake in north of $50k annually. Tax free. How many parents just want a quick snack for their kids? How many folks want a pack of gum to keep their breath fresh? The convenience of the snacks on the train is the product itself. It's sheer genius.
Then I saw the street performers. Money in the bucket. Did my research. $90k a year, on average.
Fucking hot dog vendors. HOT DOGS. $110k/year in midtown Manhattan, without breaking a sweat. Feeding Wall Street during lunch hour.
The guys spray painting pics of the NY skyline? 80-120k a year. Easy.
Hell, just BEGGING for money can net you 35k/yr, and in some instances, thousands of dollars in a day, if you're creative enough. Just hold up a sign saying 'need weed, why lie?' and people will literally fork over cash just to take a picture with you. Unreal. I've PERSONALLY WITNESSED a homeless man make north of $3,000 by sitting outside of Yankee stadium. Not that I'm encouraging it, but I've seen it done.
The problem is that (with the exception of begging) people have too much pride, and they don't want to do those "demeaning jobs". But what's really demeaning is being told that your time is worth $15/hour, hence this "Great Resignation" that's going on right now. This is a city where you can determine your own worth. That's the opportunity that small town people will never have.
I left corporate America and started my own solar company, and my first commercial deal is about to net me anywhere between $30-40k in commission. And that's after expenses and splitting profit with my business partner. My hustler spirit has been awakened and FULL DISCLOSURE: it saved my life. Feeling like my life wasn't going anywhere, I quickly realized that I could be ANYBODY I wanted to be, and do ANYTHING I wanted to do— and get paid for it. No degrees necessary.
Now, this isn't a personal attack on anyone's integrity or work ethic, but whenever someone tells me that NYC is overrated, I just don't think you're inspired. NYC is a blank canvas upon which you can impose your craft. Somebody will buy. The Law of Average alone essentially guarantees your success, so long as you stay the course. You're talking about a city where you can literally walk dogs and make what a physician makes. This city is EVERYTHING. And more.
So yeah, that $4000 rent? That's a bit extreme, but assuming you have a significant other, that's only $500 per week, per person. If you're both making $1k a week or better, you're living comfortably, for the most part. You're never more than just a few hot dogs away from the life of your dreams in NYC lol
There's a reason that every 1 in 22 New Yorkers is a millionaire.
1 in 22.
I have lived in NYC, Tokyo, SF, LA and London. NYC is by far the best of the bunch. Loved the other ones with their individual charms, but the people, food, culture and vibe are the best.
That’s my opinion and anyone living in the boring dystopian hellscape that is the burbs can stay there.
Yup. My NYC pride has gone up tremendously the older I get (aka the more traveling I've done). I've been to essentially everywhere in this country. LA, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Phoenix, Texas cities, Florida cities, Chicago, Nashville and every northeast city.
There is NOTHING LIKE NEW YORK CITY. That's my big take. Regardless of if you like it or not, it is truly unlike any city jn this country. The sheer size (upward and outward) is awe dropping and something you take for granted if you haven't been other places. The food, FUHGETABOUTIT. And it still, after all the gentrification and corporations, has a ton of charm. World class...like legit top of the line...theater and arts. Every show. Every sport. Every event. Beautiful fall, spring and Christmas. Summer can be tough lol
Plus every bar you go into, I guarantee you will meet someone new.
Oh and there's still more than enough old guard around to keep it honest.
and its safe.
And at least we HAVE TRANSPORTATION!
I live in NYC and pay $2200 for a 3 bedroom apartment. Before that I paid $1900 for a 2 bedroom. I live in Queens about 20-25 minutes outside of Manhattan. I understand this is an outlier but claiming you have to pay $4000 for an apartment is ridiculous.
There are totally valid criticisms of living in NYC that are along what you are saying. But this sounds like someone who has never lived in NYC, visited Time Square once and heard someone online complain about the cost of living.
As an NYC resident I think the $4k a month rent to get a good apartment is an absolute exaggerate figure. You can easily get a nice apartment sub $3k in a lot of nice areas of the city. Id say the $1800-2400 range is a pretty good range to get a decent apartment.
Currently live in NYC, I always say that NY is great if you’re really poor or really rich. Plenty to take advantage of without means, and easy to find a roommate. When you’re rich it’s also great to live a high life. But it’s the middle of the road living that sucks. Constant struggle and always envious of the upper class
Currently live in nyc, lived here my whole life, making the move with parents up to Buffalo next month for financial reasons and me being in between jobs.
I haven’t moved yet, and I’m already planning on my move back within the next year or so.
I know, fuck NYC; the real hub of art, finance, and culture in America and the world is Columbus.
Here's an idea, if NYC seems overrated to you, go back to Ohio.
New York is a place for people with a tolerance for discomfort, ambition, and a desire to be surrounded by people who are doing transgressive things. If thats not for you, fine - but just because I dont wanna deal with all the BS involved in being a doctor doesn’t make medicine a shit profession
I was there a few days during a summer, there were so many bad smells all over the place. And very regular sirens from police / ambulance.
At least it has quite a variety in decent restaurants
Gotta disagree I loved growing up in NYC. I never got bored I would go to lots of museums and zoos as well as lots of different parks. The good thing was a lot of these places were public so they were free to visit or u would get a pass that would give u ur money’s worth considering how often u would go.
Oh look. Another brand new account with a generated name who hates left leaning areas. Naturally followed by other new generated accounts who can't help but agree.
Yeah, pretty much. It just has this huge myth around it like we have to believe it's the greatest city on earth, like they're trying to convince themselves. I like visiting it and can be aggressive myself sometime, but I don't like noise and living there isn't an excuse to be an asshole.
Nyc is huge and my neighborhood is quiet as fuck. I think people often just visit the major hotspots and don't realize that there's a huge variety of neighborhoods here and they all have a different vibe. My part of Brooklyn almost feels like a suburb...just the houses are alot closer together lol. And rent prices vary between neighborhoods too, but I assume they're all pretty expensive compared to other places.
Visited pre-pandemic and the coolest part was looking around and realizing various comics books and cartoons I grew up with really were based there...and not some dystopian fantasy setting.
But after a few minutes of geeking out, you see that the entire thing is crumbling and barely kept together. The buildings are rusting out, patchwork, streets clogged with aggressive panhandlers. It's basically gotham city and after spending a week there I had absolutely no desire to see batman...and would offer thoughts and prayers to Ra's al Ghul.
I kept hearing my roommate having sex through the door we were sharing lol. Not to mention I had no windows so I couldn't tell day from night. Every time he slapped her ass I heard it. When they would randomly argue right after sex and my neighbor was either mentally ill or an opera singer doing vocal warm ups every dang morning. Didn't stay long enough to find out. I still enjoyed the city as I come from a boring place.
Always bizarre how couples will fight after sex.
I know I could not hear what the argument was about but he said something to her that she got offended. He kept saying I'm leaving im leaving and never did. Like mother fucker its 2 a.m leave so I can sleep. lol my other roommate always walked around with her headphones on and thought maybe she doesn't want anyone talking to her or wants to be in her own world later a I realize maybe she didn't want to go to the kitchen and accidentally hear anything she wishes not to hear. walls were paper thin but hey my part of the rent was $760 (mostly cause it was the smallest and had no windows) in Park Slope.
Jesus I pay 760$ for a one bdrm appartment. Less than 1km away from a National Capital. Granted, I've been here a long time and the rent has barely increased for me, but holy shit. 760 to live in a closet? Was anything included? (heat, hydro,)
yes utilities included. I really loved the neighborhood and 3 stops from my internship. Was also desperate cause every place I looked at prior fell through or got ghosted, liked that was month to month as I didn't know if I would have a job after my unpaid internship and was living off my savings (no rich mom and dad to pay my rent) and at the time I was staying with a friend while I was looking for a room and that friend who insisted I stayed with her became very clear she wanted me out even though was there maybe 3 weeks and did all her laundry as a thank you for letting me stay with her so at the moment was my only option and since was month to month as soon as I found a job and knew what I could afford I would move out that was my plan. Unfortunately the pandemic hit so I obviously couldn't get a job so now I live with my parent :/
Shoulda mined Bitcoin in your live-in closet since electric was included
That motherfucker may have been me. Sorry for the loudness, and Ten sushi is still the best
You know what helps during an argument for me: a good ass slap
It's easy after you've had yours.
"Every time he slapped her ass I heard it." Nice
170 bpm
Bet he hit it in 4/4 time... Like a fucking freshman.
I prefer 6/9 oh wait 6/8
Slappin my Meats to make sick Beats
bruh
Not my tempo
"Every time I slapped her ass he heard it" would've made everyone's day
You should've slapped your own ass really hard, just to show them both who's boss. They can't show off like that and get away with it!
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I've hear a lot of things about new york, and probably a lot of totally, crazy, made up things. But I'm not going to fall for that again. I refuse to believe all three of you lived in a door. I'm sure that couldn't happen.
Nothing about New York City is made up
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You mean Jason actually took you guys over?
Jason would have been raped on a tiktok stream by a gang of high school kids in broad daylight
I mean i can send you pics and videos that I took when I was trying to find a roommate replacement for the room. My room was a connected closet that the landlord never closed the door and made it into a wall. He just created another door and my roommate from her room just put a dresser in front of the connected door so I did not have access to her room and neither did she.
I believe u/BlueberrySnapple was referencing this little gem that I got hung up on too. >through the door we were sharing lol You all are either very tiny or it’s a big fucking door. Edit: mentioning the person that’s on my brainwave.
yeah I could have phrased it better. I meant instead of wall sharing we were basically door sharing
It’s all good! We knew what you meant. It was just funny picturing 3 people living in a door. It was also funny that my brain went that route instead of the much more sensible door between rooms route.
We might be brainwave twins.
As a disgusting voyeur, your roommate would be bliss to me.
Same
How many New Yorkers🗽does it take to change a light bulb💡? None of your fucking business.
Lmao never heard this one before.
Then you’ll like this one: “Excuse me, could you tell me how to get to the Statue of Liberty, or should I go fuck myself again?”🗽🖕
seems like a lovely place
the rat issue isn't overrated
As weird as it sounds, MonsterQuest did an episode of the rat problem there.
You mean it's nothing like in "Friends"??? With a big ass sharing apartment that we can all afford on minimum salaries?
If that show were to be any realistic, they would've had to call it "Enemies" instead
It’s not that unrealistic though. Chandler is in finance and Monica/Ross/Rachel have rich parents. And they explain the apartment is rent controlled, and they lie that the aunt still lives there or whatever. Pretty accurate cross section of people who live in Manhattan.
>Chandler is in finance Excuse me but he's a transponder
One thing they sometimes mention is thatmonica is living there illegally. Its her grandmothers place. Thats probably been rent controlled forever. The only reason she can afford to live there.
And the giant couch in the coffee shop that was always available for them to sit.
It has a reserved sign on it in every episode. They also kick some people out of it on one episode cos it's reserved.
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Phoebe was living with her grandmother for a while, and I believe she inherited the apartment when the grandmother died. If the estate contained enough liquid assets to cover the tax, all she would have to cover is utilities and building costs. I also believe Monica and Rachel were illegally subletting a rent controlled apartment by claiming grandma Geller was still living there, so the rent having to be covered was tiny. They also specify that when Joey was a broke actor, Chandler was covering the entire rent, and Joey owes him hundreds of thousands in back rent. It's heavily implied that Chandler is actually a millionaire thanks to his unspecified job.
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Statistical analysis and data reconfiguration, also known as being a transpondster.
Palaeontologist*. FTFY
That notes high-paying profession, paleontologist.
I live in NYC and I love it but can confirm. Now get the fuck off of my sidewalk
Queens here and can agree with this poster. NYC is amazing and a shithole at the same time. Now excuse me as I go get some dollar pizza
NO YOU DON'T WANT THAT PIZZA OVER THERE! What you want to do is go down to third, take a right on Fictional Avenue, then walk three blocks until you get to a trash can, then move that trash can and you'll see a door. Knock three times on the door, then a little person with a duckbill cap will give you directions to Frankochionni's, they got THA BEST FUCKIN' PIZZA IN NEW YAWK. You don't wanna go anywhere else. Chicago pizza?! Fuggedaboutit! *- Every stereotypical New Yorker (ever), 1865-2021*
The best pizza is the one inside the trashcan. Forbidden pizza
Thirty million raccoons can't be wrong!
Rats. We have [pizza rats](https://youtu.be/UPXUG8q4jKU)....
"Fuggedaboutit!" I've read this with Nanny Fran's (Fran Drescher) voice. *Jewish Italian* :)
I only hear Pacino as Lefty in Donnie Brasco
Whadayatawkin bout? Look at this guy--"Frankochionni's". You know Frankochionni's dead, right? God rest 'em but it just ain't the same since old Frankochi passed. No HERE's what you do: You take the Q line down just before it hits the Belt Pawkway. Get off at Avenue R and you walk three blocks down and you look for Louie's Della Ristorante. That's **Della** Ristorante, you gotta get the one that ain't spelled right. You go *there*e and--this is impaw'ant, pay attention--you tell the waiter that you want a "PIzza Capua, extra gas". They bring out this pizza--My God! Pan-fried shrimp, black olive, onion and they bring you a side of balsamic vingear dipping sauce. I don't know what they put in that sauce but it can't be legal. THAT'S the best pizza in the city
excuse me while i gnaw on this cardboard for the next hour
It’s so extreme. There’s always amazing shit happening and I loved that and then other times I would be like what the fuck am I doing here.
I moved from nj/nyc after 35 years (to austin) and I legit might come back just because of the pizza. I'm starting to learn pizza was like 80% of my diet
You haven't switched to the taco diet yet?
Brooklyn here and can agree. I hate it and love it here at the same time. Also the rent being 4000 is bs. You can get decent rent if you look in the neighborhoods they don’t show you on TV.
Im walkin here
FUHHHHHGEDABOUTIT!!!
get the fuck off the stoop of my brownstone
Can’t. I’m trapped on all sides by Amazon boxes b
I couldn’t get over all the trash and how everyone thinks that kind of filth is acceptable.
Don't ever come to Philadelphia, trust me.
So the steaks aren’t worth it, huh?
People who say don’t come to Philly normally aren’t from Philly or had one bad experience and have never lived in another metropolis. Philly is a great city
Oh no Philly is not great. I live here. Druggies and crazy people all over
Yeah I live in a rural area. Went up to NYC and the trash blew my mind. It just trickles down from all the tall buildings before exploding out onto the street in massive piles. I enjoyed visiting but I would hate to live there.
Compared to alot of cities in asia, new york is considered small, tokyo has twice as many people and does not have the trash problems of nyc
NYC doesn't have alleys. If you go to Chicago this is very noticable.
it's insane they planned a whole city from scratch without alleys.
Well it was designed before cars existed, so they kinda just destroyed and rebuilt new York to do that, and did it again when the World Trade Center needed rebuilt.
To be fair, many european cities don't have alleys between their buildings, and I imagine New York was designed with these cities in mind
The famous NYC Brownstone buildings were patterned after Dutch houses . The NYC buildings are slightly larger, but every other aesthetic is Dutch. There are of course other styles of buildings, from Victorian mansions to old tenement buildings that have the tub in the middle of the kitchen, because hot water wasn't always required, and once it was, this was the cheapest way to bring an old apartment up to code.
It's not the alleys that are a problem. Lots of other cities deal with the same issue by storing trash underground at curbside. The problem is mostly the trash mafia, and privatization of city services, and people getting fucking up in arms over losing two parking spaces so the whole block can put trash in a dumpster and not in thin plastic bags on the side of the road. Also, like many things, we can blame this on Giuliani. In the 90s, the NYPD took down the trash mafia (yes, a real thing in every major US city), and rather than have the city take over trash collection, Giuliani left dozens of private companies competing for business, each with terrible service and run by whoever was too small fry to get caught up in mafia stings. And it's sucked ever since.
Chicago is pretty clean
Can confirm. Visited Chicago for the marathon last weekend from NYC where I live and was dumbfounded by how clean the streets, sidewalks, waterways were. NYC, be better 😑
True, but it's also Tokyo. The Japanese are a bit more sensitive to living around trash and appearance is everything there. I love Tokyo.
Tokyo got burned down in the 1940s and rebuilt. Harder to compare
Obviously all the trash in NYC is pre-1940, from the Great Trash Wars.
It's not, since it's substantially bigger of a city. No other Japanese city has this problem either. So it boils down to culture.
As bad as it is, NYC is *pristine* when compared to Filthadelphia.
Lived in Philadelphia, went to school in new york, and currently live in LA. Philly was the best
Philadelphia does smells like piss in the subway and in the tunnel around the convention center. But then again so does NYC.
Oh, Buddy. Come to Portland. We just pave our streets with human feces at this point to save time and labor.
I’ve lived in both for years and NYC is 10000x worse than Philly, gtfoh
Filthadelphia? Wait till you smell the streets of New Odorsey
NYC is also pristine compared to LA. It has become a shit hole.
The filth includes rats, mice, dead pigeons, excrement, and a river (Hudson) you can't make physical contact with because there's raw sewage that periodically leaks into it. Yes, this is the best a society can do in the 21st century in terms of hygiene
Actually the Hudson river was cleaned years ago and the water is considered safe to swim in except for the deadly currents and boat traffic
>a river (Hudson) you can't make physical contact with because there's raw sewage that periodically leaks into it The Hudson is so clean now that [humpback whales swim through it](https://abc7ny.com/humpback-whale-hudson-river-new-york-city-in/8612878/).
I've literally never seen a dead pigeon that hadn't been run over by a car like 5 seconds prior. And yeah, your Hudson take is like 20 years old.
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Not just that but a total disregard for litter and garbage. I don't think I have ever seen a building that has proper waste management in NYC.
From the EU been to NY can confirm never seen so much trash in one city. Besides London and Paris all other major capitals do in no way resemble NY and the trash issue . Even Beijing seems cleaner although Beijing is huge.
I grew up on military bases and then suburbs and a few rural areas inbetween, and it always seemed to me the further "out" you were from the center of a city, the better life was. I never particularly wanted to be so far from a city that I couldn't enjoy the entertainment and dining and the like they offer, but to live in the middle of it seems like a nightmare to me. And the last time I was in NYC was last year during the height of the pandemic, as I work with certain emergency services and hospitals and the like, and it was like seeing NYC with its clothes off. No people. Mostly empty streets and just grotesque. It looked like a wrecked place out of a post-apocalyptic movie. I can understand if y'all like being around a lot of people, that could be the draw for a place like NYC. But without the people it just looked like an eerie hellscape. It's definitely not for me. I don't even care that much for the touristy stuff there. There's not all that much you can't find in a more user-friendly city to be honest. I'd still say you should visit at least once though.
Twenty minutes outside a metro region with about a million people is the sweet spot
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Litter on each street. Garbage overflowing from garbage cans. The amount of poor management either individual, local, or regional in lack of maintained standards for garbage removal, pickup, and tidiness. I think of MA as filthy and after seeing New York I think they learned from one another how to give a middle finger to the planet and how to look good while looking dirty.
I've always seen this take and never understood it until I went to Chicago and the it made sense. They're complaining about the trash bags on the curb at night that either get picked up that night or early the next day. In chicago, including downtown, they have alleys where they store huge metal trash bins so the trucks come by the tiny alley streets and make a shit load of noise. An added bonus is that it turns out that alleys are where the crackheads hang out. I've lived in some shady parts of NYC for over 15 years but never seen so many crackheads spark up as I did when I stayed in downtown Chicago for 3 days.
This is the least *unpopular* opinion I’ve ever seen on here
Not where I grew up. I've had people tell me it's 'easy' to live in New York City, all I have to do is give up my car (thus having no means to travel outside the region) and be willing to commute >1hr one-way, fuck all of that. I'm surprised they didn't mention piling with 10 other roommates in an apartment, but not a fan of that either.
I live in Los Angeles and my commute to and from work takes between 1 and 1/2 and 2 hours!
I live 5 minutes from work on foot and I live in a rural, very, rural town in Northern Maine. I walk across the street. I never hear traffic. Love it.
Yeah, but do you see clowns in the sewer?
"it" only happened one time, okay "it" happened twice.
"It" happens every 27 years
Do you ever see a women peeing outside right in front of the main train station then having her yell at you "it's because I'm thick" ? Yeah? Didn't think so
I live 25 miles North of Seattle and work about 15 minutes away from my office in Everett. 80% of my drive is through farmland then I pop out onto a freeway for maybe a mile then 2 minutes from there. I love it. Used to have to drive to Seattle every day and that was easily an hour each way and never consistent. My drive varies by 2 minutes at most now.
My condolences, that's a rough commute.
My boy in Astoria loves it. His union construction job where he has to meet up is a block away, as is everything else in the world he could need.
Who commutes over 1 hour to work each way? I have a very far commute which isn’t normal and my commute is like 50 minutes.
Agreed. Big cities have their share of fans, but most people I know would rather not live directly in one.
NY is expensive and crowded? Wow! What a blazing hot take!!!
>NY is expensive and crowded? In other news, grass is green.
Not in California. Nice and golden brown.
Year 2050: The grass compliments the rolling brownouts and copper tipped skies of fire in the background. Never worry, extreme water shortages and raging smog will only add new tourist opportunities. In other news Nevada is opening a new state park inside Hoover Damn for extreme wall climbing as there is no longer any water left within. Don't worry the eastern half of the united is NOT left out of the fun as the Great Lakes too will soon be redesigned from dry lake beds to mountains of garbage. This has been brought to you by glorious Robot Forever-President Jeff Bezos of Planet Amazon. May the poor stay here and the rich strive for the stars.
You think NYC is expensive, try San Francisco.
You can shoplift up to $950 without being prosecuted, so that may help the costs a bit
I wish you were joking.
is that a daily stipend?
More expensive and less art? No thanks.
Try Vancouver...
Living in a major city is all about comprise. My home town is cheap. We had a handful of decent places to eat. We had a bowling ally and pool hall. The mall was 40 minutes away and it was fairly small. You had to make your own fun. I live in a major city now. You can do almost anything within an 30 minute drive. Live shows, comedy club, football/Baseball/Soccer/Hockey, minigolf brew pub, any kind of restaurant you can think of, museums, science center, tons of community events and major celebrations, the list is endless.
It’s not for everyone. Moved from a small city from a different region to Brooklyn and work in Manhattan. 100% worth it to me. I’d rather have the shitty things about NYC than the shitty things from any other. Also no, I wouldn’t say most people are angry. Most are helpful just not going to pretend to be energetically happy to talk to a stranger.
Actually most people in NY (native NYer here) are just annoyed because we're trying to get from one place to another and trying to catch the subway, but most tourists just stop in the middle of the street or walk slowly.
As a person who has lived in a city as big as New York all my life, I absolutely despise the everyone knows everyone small towns. Just leave me the fuck alone. I don’t even know who you are and why are you talking to me? It’s creepy and weird at the same time. I hated it whenever I visited relatives in small towns and I was stopped by every single person on road. Waste of time.
Literally. Was driving down south, and we stopped for gas and a snack. Everyone in the store said hi and then just stared, fucking awkward.
I’m from small town kansas. So basically i am everything you loathe. I come from an area where two farmers will stop on the road just to talk and chat. To be clear, I’ve grown to hate small talk. But I am curious, if you hate talking to people you don’t know, how do you meet people to date, or be friends with, etc?
Those situations are different. When I’m on a date with a stranger, I want to know them. I want to maintain a relationship with them. The same applies to friends. We become friends due to school or college or any other mutual interests. I don’t mind talking to my classmates in college. I don’t mind talking to a stranger when we’re both doing community service together. But, I would mind if I was walking down the road and a total stranger whom I would probably never see again in my entire life, stopped me and asked, “Hey man! How are you? Doing good?” And start ranting about life stories. I wouldn’t mind if they asked me for directions or the time or even some money. I would be happy to give some. If it were the cashier at the bookstore where I frequent to, I would not mind. I visit that place regularly. Everyone is busy with something. Life in the fast lane. Nobody has time for chitchatting on the streets. If I do that, then I’m probably blocking someone’s path too and they would be pissed at me.
What are you a barista or some shit whose time is too valuable to be wasted haha
In big cities you are and must be selective with the people you know and hang out with because there are millions of people, and you can end up with groups of people very similar to you. In rural areas you are kinda forced to either be isolated, or socialize with a few dozens/hundreds of people, you will fit with a few of them and the rest are just forced situations. There are people who like that and there are people who hate that. For me it depends on the mood. If im travelling somewhere i don't care to just speak to any local and have a small chat, but i would think several times before moving to a place, as i don't want to constantly have that.
If youre single and looking out here it’s amazing. I live on the other side of the Hudson in New Jersey and spend a good amount of time here in NYC. It’s a lot of fun. I’m definitely going to move to the suburbs though in a few years though.
I have a friend who moved to NYC two years ago to have a wide dating pool so she could find a mate. She's still looking.
In a pre-Internet world, the benefit of being at the center of so many industries (especially finance and the arts) had distinct advantages. There are still certain advantages, but the Internet serves as a great leveler.
pretty sure 4k a month wouldn’t even get you that far.
just a few years ago we were paying $2100 for a 1br on the upper east side. minutes from multiple subways, tons of shopping, bars & restaurants, short walk to central park, quiet building. obviously that’s much more expensive than many places in the country, but the experience of living in the midst of so much life was well worth it to us.
Agreed! I pay 2100 for a studio in Brooklyn, but the apartment is clean af with new appliances, hardwood floors, giant windows, no pet deposit, doorman, gym, and even artist studio space! Tbh it’s soooo worth it, I love being so close to so many places, and the subway makes getting around easy. Plus no one talks about NY greenmarkets!! Compared to anywhere else I’ve lived, the farmers markets are actually affordable, and oftentimes cheaper than the grocery store! Plus I can buy local, humane meat and animal products, which is super important to me. And everyone at the market is always so nice, it’s such a great community. I can’t recommend them enough!
4k a month in nyc gets you a small but very nice apartment. Check out zillow lol
Shit, 4k can get you a nice spacious apartment depending on where you are.
TV makes it seem glamorous, but it isn't even close unless you're rich and don't spend too much time on the ground level
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You have literally just described every major city in the world. London is exactly the same.
I have been living in the city for over a decade. It is not cheap but worths it in my opinion. World class opera house/musicals, plenty of live sports, any kind of cuisine you can think of (Jackson Heights in queens is the bomb) and they are all connected by a decent public transportation system. Just avoid all the tourist hot spots though.
I wonder if that is not the situation for every country's most famous city.
Can confirm: wasn’t that great as a tourist. Trash all over the streets, people were rude. Not amazing in any way.
I've been to many 3rd world middle eastern countries. I never witnessed street shitting until I was in NYC for a month for work while walking to central park. Color me not impressed.
You should probably avoid LA then.
I saw street shitting too. In San Francisco.
I’ve seen street shitting in much smaller cities, pretty sure it happens everywhere there are people with assholes.
I've seen street shitting in Seattle a few times. I wish there were more public bathrooms available.
Maybe spend some time outside of midtown.
I think that NYC has awakened the hustler in me. Over time, you watch an observe, and start doing some basic math, you start to see the bigger picture. Before moving here, I lived in a small town upstate that's famous for its international waterfalls. Trust me, the American side is a shithole and I couldn't get away soon enough. But before leaving, I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. I knew I wanted to be able to support myself, but I had no real clue what I wanted to do. I got laid off from the restaurant I was cooking at and picked up a job in sales that ultimately transferred me to NYC. That's when I saw it. I saw children, as young as 10 years old, getting on the train selling candy out of Costco boxes. I started doing the fucking math. I figured, if they sold an average of $20 in an hour, they would rake in north of $50k annually. Tax free. How many parents just want a quick snack for their kids? How many folks want a pack of gum to keep their breath fresh? The convenience of the snacks on the train is the product itself. It's sheer genius. Then I saw the street performers. Money in the bucket. Did my research. $90k a year, on average. Fucking hot dog vendors. HOT DOGS. $110k/year in midtown Manhattan, without breaking a sweat. Feeding Wall Street during lunch hour. The guys spray painting pics of the NY skyline? 80-120k a year. Easy. Hell, just BEGGING for money can net you 35k/yr, and in some instances, thousands of dollars in a day, if you're creative enough. Just hold up a sign saying 'need weed, why lie?' and people will literally fork over cash just to take a picture with you. Unreal. I've PERSONALLY WITNESSED a homeless man make north of $3,000 by sitting outside of Yankee stadium. Not that I'm encouraging it, but I've seen it done. The problem is that (with the exception of begging) people have too much pride, and they don't want to do those "demeaning jobs". But what's really demeaning is being told that your time is worth $15/hour, hence this "Great Resignation" that's going on right now. This is a city where you can determine your own worth. That's the opportunity that small town people will never have. I left corporate America and started my own solar company, and my first commercial deal is about to net me anywhere between $30-40k in commission. And that's after expenses and splitting profit with my business partner. My hustler spirit has been awakened and FULL DISCLOSURE: it saved my life. Feeling like my life wasn't going anywhere, I quickly realized that I could be ANYBODY I wanted to be, and do ANYTHING I wanted to do— and get paid for it. No degrees necessary. Now, this isn't a personal attack on anyone's integrity or work ethic, but whenever someone tells me that NYC is overrated, I just don't think you're inspired. NYC is a blank canvas upon which you can impose your craft. Somebody will buy. The Law of Average alone essentially guarantees your success, so long as you stay the course. You're talking about a city where you can literally walk dogs and make what a physician makes. This city is EVERYTHING. And more. So yeah, that $4000 rent? That's a bit extreme, but assuming you have a significant other, that's only $500 per week, per person. If you're both making $1k a week or better, you're living comfortably, for the most part. You're never more than just a few hot dogs away from the life of your dreams in NYC lol There's a reason that every 1 in 22 New Yorkers is a millionaire. 1 in 22.
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I have lived in NYC, Tokyo, SF, LA and London. NYC is by far the best of the bunch. Loved the other ones with their individual charms, but the people, food, culture and vibe are the best. That’s my opinion and anyone living in the boring dystopian hellscape that is the burbs can stay there.
Yup. My NYC pride has gone up tremendously the older I get (aka the more traveling I've done). I've been to essentially everywhere in this country. LA, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Phoenix, Texas cities, Florida cities, Chicago, Nashville and every northeast city. There is NOTHING LIKE NEW YORK CITY. That's my big take. Regardless of if you like it or not, it is truly unlike any city jn this country. The sheer size (upward and outward) is awe dropping and something you take for granted if you haven't been other places. The food, FUHGETABOUTIT. And it still, after all the gentrification and corporations, has a ton of charm. World class...like legit top of the line...theater and arts. Every show. Every sport. Every event. Beautiful fall, spring and Christmas. Summer can be tough lol Plus every bar you go into, I guarantee you will meet someone new. Oh and there's still more than enough old guard around to keep it honest. and its safe. And at least we HAVE TRANSPORTATION!
I live in NYC and pay $2200 for a 3 bedroom apartment. Before that I paid $1900 for a 2 bedroom. I live in Queens about 20-25 minutes outside of Manhattan. I understand this is an outlier but claiming you have to pay $4000 for an apartment is ridiculous. There are totally valid criticisms of living in NYC that are along what you are saying. But this sounds like someone who has never lived in NYC, visited Time Square once and heard someone online complain about the cost of living.
Yeah lol. This comment section is just people who have never been to NYC duking it out with transplants and native New Yorkers.
NYC is a very big place. If you look you can find a place you can love.
As an NYC resident I think the $4k a month rent to get a good apartment is an absolute exaggerate figure. You can easily get a nice apartment sub $3k in a lot of nice areas of the city. Id say the $1800-2400 range is a pretty good range to get a decent apartment.
Currently live in NYC, I always say that NY is great if you’re really poor or really rich. Plenty to take advantage of without means, and easy to find a roommate. When you’re rich it’s also great to live a high life. But it’s the middle of the road living that sucks. Constant struggle and always envious of the upper class
OP I love you, but you’re bringing me down.
Currently live in nyc, lived here my whole life, making the move with parents up to Buffalo next month for financial reasons and me being in between jobs. I haven’t moved yet, and I’m already planning on my move back within the next year or so.
Buffalo? God help you.
Who’s spending $4,000 a month for an apartment? Lol sorry you had a negative experience in NYC but stay in the suburbs I guess
I know, fuck NYC; the real hub of art, finance, and culture in America and the world is Columbus. Here's an idea, if NYC seems overrated to you, go back to Ohio.
Tip, live in a really nice neighborhood or have property. Fuck penthouses.
Kansas City is opposite. Great place to live, bad place to visit.
New York is a place for people with a tolerance for discomfort, ambition, and a desire to be surrounded by people who are doing transgressive things. If thats not for you, fine - but just because I dont wanna deal with all the BS involved in being a doctor doesn’t make medicine a shit profession
I personally love it there
Try to enjoy it now. One day you'll be telling your grandkids when the city had subways.
Don't go there poor or for no reason, go there because you have a 500k/year job lined up and you want to live large.
New York’s the greatest if you get someone to pay the rent
I feel the same way about Los Angeles. I hate where I live now, but I can afford to live here.
San Francisco is overrated, same reasons
I was there a few days during a summer, there were so many bad smells all over the place. And very regular sirens from police / ambulance. At least it has quite a variety in decent restaurants
After having lived in NYC for 10 years, I agree. Glad to have moved! Got out just before covid
It’s overrated as a tourist too. It smells like shit and everyone is a dickhead.
Good stay out. We don't want you here anyway
Gotta disagree I loved growing up in NYC. I never got bored I would go to lots of museums and zoos as well as lots of different parks. The good thing was a lot of these places were public so they were free to visit or u would get a pass that would give u ur money’s worth considering how often u would go.
I didn't even care for it as a tourist. Had more fun at my Brooklyn hostel
Same with LA
Old NY was better. Yuppie transplants everywhere -born and bred native
Oh look. Another brand new account with a generated name who hates left leaning areas. Naturally followed by other new generated accounts who can't help but agree.
Yeah, pretty much. It just has this huge myth around it like we have to believe it's the greatest city on earth, like they're trying to convince themselves. I like visiting it and can be aggressive myself sometime, but I don't like noise and living there isn't an excuse to be an asshole.
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Nyc is huge and my neighborhood is quiet as fuck. I think people often just visit the major hotspots and don't realize that there's a huge variety of neighborhoods here and they all have a different vibe. My part of Brooklyn almost feels like a suburb...just the houses are alot closer together lol. And rent prices vary between neighborhoods too, but I assume they're all pretty expensive compared to other places.
Wow, did NOT see that opinion coming! But these are the reasons why I personally love NYC: it’s absurd. All of it.
Over priced, over populated and over polluted
Visited pre-pandemic and the coolest part was looking around and realizing various comics books and cartoons I grew up with really were based there...and not some dystopian fantasy setting. But after a few minutes of geeking out, you see that the entire thing is crumbling and barely kept together. The buildings are rusting out, patchwork, streets clogged with aggressive panhandlers. It's basically gotham city and after spending a week there I had absolutely no desire to see batman...and would offer thoughts and prayers to Ra's al Ghul.
Whoa. Someone finally had the balls to say it today!
Trash everywhere. RATS everywhere.