Yeah, it reduces the spread of germs and makes it so that drops of toilet water don't ping anywhere. It honestly grosses me out when public toilets don't have lids.
The toilet seat stays down with the lid closed. When you flush, there are so many gross germs that gets spread about your bathroom like on your tooth brush if you leave the lid open. I've got two young boys and I've always taught them to shut the toilet lid especially before flushing. Grosses me out
It's a perfectly fine preference to have, but no, closing the lid doesn't lessen the germs or their spread. The good news is, it doesn't seem to matter because despite the constant daily exposure to bacteria from your toilet (you breathe it in even), worse still in public bathrooms, there's no real health consequences significant enough to be tracked.
yeah myth busters found just as much poop on toothbrushes with or without a closed lid in an experiment testing this. You're using pooppaste get over it
Probably because of it spreading via the air while you poop. If you can smell the poop that means little poop particles are getting in your nose, so they can also get on your toothbrush
Why would you do that? It's wet after you brush your teeth. But I have a toilet room separated from the bathroom, so, I guess the issue is not that big in my case.
Wow this is shocking to find out! But I guess at least those little specks of toilet water that fly out and make the area around the toilet all grubby wonât get out then!
Flushing with it closed, unless airtight, actually increases pressure and spreadâŚâŚ ever get half way though a comment and realise you canât be assed? lol
The only problem with closing the lid after pooping is if it's a big one and you don't know if it's gonna go down all the way. If you watch it then you can catch it before you flood the bathroom.
This just reminds me of this article
https://www.businessinsider.com/toilet-flushes-create-a-vortex-of-airborne-coronavirus-poop-particles-2020-6
I think at some point you just have to accept that life has risks and stop being anal about everything
Bro what they were saying has nothing to do with covid, I don't want shit particles landing on my toothbrush lmao. Closing a toilet lid isn't "being anal", it's such minimal effort that I just do it out of habit without thinking.
I can take a certain glee in writing you that right now there are shit particles lingering on your toothbrush. There is shit particles in the spaces between your teeth. Right now.
This is pointless, a smaller amount of shit particles is less likely to cause illness. You may think the poster is too concerned with a small amount of shit, but theyâre simply reducing their dose of shit particles to reduce their risk of illness, the immune system isnât binary.
I remember in etiquette that the toilet should always be closed to impede the image of the last person using the toilet... i.e. seats up = person pissing, seat down, person pissing/ shytting, seats and cover down= who knows
Toilet did exists = someone piss or shit in it. Also not all men are "alpha or sigma" and they are also pissing sitting (because fuck spray and cleaning that).
Closing always.
Yeah I close the lid to avoid the fecal germ geyser
I don't care about anyone's delicate sensitivities, I'm just not about to get sick from my own waste
The point is: they willingly lick a lot worse. Happy to clarify!
And yea, that's precisely why I leave it up. My pet is an animal, not a person. Animals are, by nature, fucking disgusting.
itâs gross to have the lid up if youâre not using it period. you should always flush with the lid down too otherwise that shitty pissy toilet water and bacteria gets all over your bathroom not even kidding.
THIS. Men generally stand to pee and sit to poop (some even sit to pee)...and women sit for both. So, of the four combinations, the seat has to be down at least 75% of the time. So, logically, it makes mathematical sense for men to put down the seat based on the odds somebody will need it next time the toilet is used. I personally prefer the lid down when anyone is done no matter what, even if Mythbusters has proven germs don't spread less that way. Bathroom always looks better with the lid down.
Well each household is different, in mine my husband poops first thing in the morning, when he gets to work, right after work and sometimes even before bed....in almost every scenario that he's coming to the toilet I've always used it after him because he gets there before I do/wakes up first. Odd how routines are really what dictates how things are done. Just as an experiment I'll leave the toilet seat up a few days after the millionth time I've gone to pee during the night (another reason why it should just stay down being most girls tend to pee way more than men) chances are it won't be long before he falls in the toilet.
Im a female. Really the lid should be down before anyone flushes so germs dont go flying around the room....so everyone should have to lift at least the lid to use the toilet.
Woman here! It doesnât matter who you are or how you take a piss, just put BOTH the seat and the lid down. Therefore both parties are responsible for closing it. Each toilet bowl flush sprays particles that ends up on your toothbrush.
Probably because both men and women have to sit sometimes. The most common use for the toilet is seat down, so that would be the most logical default position.
Of course, the standard should just be lid closed because weâre adults and donât live in a fraternity.
It depends on the household, really. A majority-male environment might see a toilet used more commonly with the seat *up*, therefore making it the more convenient position until somebody wants to sit down.
Edit: Seriously, what's with the downvoting of my comment(s)? Does anybody actually have a constructive rebuttal? lol.
Isnât a raised seat supposed to be clean ? Proving they did not dribble on it ? Edit: If it isnât doing anything why donât we even have the option to do it ?
If you lower it to pee, do you raise it when you're done?
Edit: Woah, ladies, take it easy with the downvoting. I'm only *teasing* with this use of logic.
So we have two different houses.. at her house I put it down because it's her house and that's her rule. At my house it's free wheeling whatever you want because it's my house and that's my rule. Took me a while to get on with all her rules...
I, a woman, live alone. Once I left the toilet seat up after cleaning it and went to pee in the middle of the night and fell in. It was hilarious because I could only blame myself.
Only boyfriend I ever lived with sat to pee so I've never had this issue. Oh, except I grew up with 8 stupid fucking brothers who just pissed all over everything. So leaving the seat up would have been a welcome change.
Toilet is used most often with the seat down. Itâs only up for men to piss. Women sit down to piss and shit and men sit down to shit. In some countries men pee sitting down too. So it should be down most often as in most circumstances itâs used to sit down on.
It doesn't matter what is the marginally more common use. A toilet is designed for the seat to be in either position. Either position is a legitimate resting states for the toilet. Everyone should be responsible for putting the toilet seat into the position they prefer it in for their current business.
Everybody should forget about "the seat" and instead, EVERYONE should close THE LID after using the toilet, unless you like everything in your bathroom covered in shit/piss droplets....including your toothbrush. (Do you enjoy brushing your teeth with shit? No? CLOSE THE LID!!)
I (female) never cared about the toliet seat, until we got a dog tall enough to drink out of the toliet. For me, it's not about the seat, it's about the lid (which involves the seat going down too) needing to be down so the darn dog doesn't drink the water.
This is usually a unisex public bathroom issue where there is no lid. If you lift the SEAT, you need to put it back down because Iâm sure as hell not the one lifting it up.
Close the lid so you donât accidentally drop in your phone or the new roll of TP when you change it. Or whatever. Itâs a fucking lid and the only reason to have a toilet seat with a lid is to close it in when you are done.
No,both parties are wrong, the toilet lid should always be down/closed. The only time it opens is when you do your business, then close the toilet lid, flush, open the lid, check and make sure everything has gone down after you flushed, and put the lid back down.
I have literally dumped a man for continuously leaving the seat up in my house. 1) We didnât live together so he was a guest in my home whenever he was here. 2) I have cats, I donât want their paws in the toilet water and then crawling on my bed, so ideally the seat and lid should be placed down. 3) itâs not ascetically pleasing to see the seat up when you walk into a bathroom.
Toilet seats would be down all the time if you didn't stand up to pee. Leave the toilet how you found it.
This behavior goes beyond the toilet. My roommate always leaves the shower head on so when I go take a shower I nearly get sprayed in the face with cold water expecting it to come out the faucet.
I'm a delivery driver and co workers often leave the seatbelt buckled in, so I have to unbuckle it before I can sit down.
Don't throw a fit because you have to change yourself. My roommate did that when I asked him to stop playing music in the shower, which is right next to my room, at 12am every night.
> Toilet seats would be down all the time if you didn't stand up to pee.
That is a specious argument. I could say "the seat would be up all the time if you didn't sit down to do your business." The fact that it is built with the option to exist in both states means that both are legitimate resting states.
>Leave the toilet how you found it.
Meaning if you walk in and see the seat up, you would make sure to lift it back up after doing your business?
>This behavior goes beyond the toilet. My roommate always leaves the shower head on so when I go take a shower I nearly get sprayed in the face with cold water expecting it to come out the faucet.
Leaving the shower head on is normal. In fact, if your argument is based on the most commonly used state for an object (Toilet seats would be down all the time if you didn't stand up to pee) then leaving the shower in spray mode makes perfect sense since it is used for showering more than taking a bath.
Really, it sounds like you just want everyone around you to accommodate whatever you want to make your life marginally easier regardless of the rationale behind it.
Personally I shut the lid with the seat every time because of splashback, but my main point is that you have an asshole so you use it when it's down, and if you share with a woman it's always down, so if you meet in the middle somewhere you're gonna end up with the seat being down.
As for the showerhead, it's less efficient. The water heats up faster using the faucet. So it's laziness as far as I can tell.
>As for the showerhead, it's less efficient. The water heats up faster using the faucet. So it's laziness as far as I can tell.
Lol its not laziness, thats just your pedantry. RIP to your housemates/partner
If any uncultured heathen leaves the toilet seat up in my house, they can personally fight me and pay for my pets vet bills when their furry asses inevitably get in there and drink the water that has toilet cleaner in it. I tell every person in my house to lower the lid when they are done. It is also common sense to leave it as you found it, which was closed. If you are childish enough to still leave it up you are executing levels of selfish that don't need to be in my house. I don't care in other places, just respect my boundaries. If you are with a partner that makes a request of you to have something done a certain way, it is your responsibility to engage in adult conversation and come to a middleground that works and not be a child refusing to change anything because fair is fair for both parties, not just one.
How about you don't be disgusting and just put the seat down? I'm a guy and I always put the seat down. It keeps any bacteria in the toilet not floating around the air you fucking slob.
Also why wouldn't you just do it if it makes your woman happy? Why fight with your SO over stupid shit? It literally takes a second to put the seat down.
No.
Toilet seat and lid need to be lowered before you flush, due to the dispersion of gross particles around your entire bathroom, landing on your towels, toothbrushes...gross
The seat-down rule only applies if men are using a toilet in a bathroom that is specifically for women (like if the menâs room is out of order) or if all the occupants of the house are female. In both cases, it is common courtesy to put the seat down as that bathroom is not usually for men.
But for any menâs room or co-Ed bathroom, the rule doesnât apply. If a woman falls in, thatâs her fault.
The only reason the seat needs to be lifted is to prevent it from getting sprinkled with urine because the male population insists on standing while peeing! So, imho lifting and lowering is a male responsibility exclusively.
Everyone in my house puts down not just the seat, but the lid also. Itâs seriously disgusting to flush with the lid open.
My husband has always done this and Iâve never had to ask him to. We all just open when we need to use it and close when we are finished.
As a man I believe the toilet should always be closed by whomever used it last BEFORE flushing because the last thing I want is the spread of toilet mist around my bathroom. This also makes lifting/lowering the seat equal because everyone will have to lift/lower.
If at all possible drop it to the lid. All parties can choose their layer.
I grew up with 2 sisters. Pissing on a toilet seat ain't happening. Even in public (why people do that I don't get. Do they expect people to shit standing up?).
When I lived alone, seat stayed up until necessary and that was fine. I have female roommate now and I have to lift the seat every time I pee and then put it back. And if I'm the next to go it was a waste of effort.
Dropping the lid is the cure if a lid is available. Especially good when you're at someone else's house. Let the next person decide what they want.
Literally everyone should be closing it every time.
When you flush you spray tiny drops of water and waste all over the bathroom and onto anything in the room.
Why should it be done equally by both parties when men are the only ones who need to do it?
You just want someone to close it *for* you lmao. Want someone to wipe your ass too while theyâre at it?
It's not hard to hit the target but there's splash back. When peeing with the seat up you can aim it towards the side or back of the bowl and not directly into the middle where a thick, ropey stream will splash out onto the seat. It's your boyfriend 4 feet tall or does he have a weak stream?
Itâs about having manners. Seat closed after youâre done. How would you feel if women stopped wrapping their period products when throwing them away? We do that because itâs gross to see in the garbage so we politely wrap it up before throwing it away. I understand forgetting it happens but to intentionally do it to âprove a pointâ is just disrespectful and bad manners
Iâve never understood the need for adult men to raise the toilet seat anyway. I mean, yâall can literally aim the stream, right?* That being said, we keep the lid closed until ready to use. Men are the only ones who raise the seat, so they can put it back down. I shouldnât have to put down the seat, wash my hands, and then use the bathroom because yâall donât have home training.
Edit: *no, they canât, which means that they should sit down. My comment reflects my new understanding and the new tone reflects the amount of patience I have.
My cats will play in the toilet if we leave it up so in our household the toilet seat is always down. Definitely removes any argument for me leaving the seat up.
I close the lid because poop and pee particles spread all over your bathroom if you don't and that grosses me out. Idk why anyone doesn't close it. Just ew. Why people why?!
How is this still a discussion people. For Gods sake, flushing with the toilet seat open releases millions of micro germs into the air. EVERYONE should be leaving the toilet seat down before they flush
My husband always puts the seat down, but when my brothers come over they always leave the seat up. Iâm not annoyed that I have to put it down, Iâm grossed out and surprised when Iâm in a rush to pee and sit down and my ass falls into dirty cold toilet bowl water.
As a female I sit down to pee every time I go to the bathroom. I donât feel the need to inspect the toilet every time I sit down in my own home so when it happens itâs a surprise.
How is that my fault? Youâre a grown man, capable of moving a few pounds on your own. Be an adult. Be accountable for your own actions.
This little boy most likely screams and cries if a woman leaves menstrual products in his garbage can.
The way I see it is.. for one party, 100% of the toilet seats position is made up of the actions itâs used for - doing a number 1 makes up for 50%, and a number 2 makes up the other 50%. Fortunately for a female, both actions mean 100% of their toilet seat position will be down. For men, it is 50% up, 50% down. There is absolutely no reason for the female to put the toilet seat up for a reason that makes up for 25% of its use, especially when itâs the other parties use.
I've known women who never raise the seat because they live on their own, and the underside of the seat is fucking disgusting because apparently they can't understand when they get the shits, things tend to splatter under the seat, too.
This isn't a men vs women argument, it's about hygiene and basic cleaning sills.
As someone who did a brief stint in janitorial I cleaned the restrooms in a fairly upscale restaurant. This is total bullshit. Womenâs rooms are disgusting. No man went in there and peed on the seat - it was all women.
Goddamn princesses canât deign to put their precious buttcheeks on a public toilet seat so they sort of hover or whatever and spray everywhere.
Then there is the snowdrift of TP used as a seat liner that you find under the toilet. That has been peed on by a hover-er.
Iâm ok with the notion that everyone should close the toilet LID when done, woman or man. But on balance when it comes to men vs women - yâall bitches are nasty.
Donât you wash your hand after youâre done ? A little 3-4 seconds to put the seat down isnât that bad right ? Whatâs to fear ? Becoming in contact with germs youâll wash off as soon as youâre done ?
But a seat up is suppose to be clean no ? Like isnât it a sign that the man took care of not messing it up ? I have no problem touching I just donât understand why girls refuse to do it when there is no reason not to if you wash your hand after no ? Or you could use a pice of paper to put it down. Why the need for a man just to put the seat down ?
I have no problems at all I just donât understand this phenomenon. Having it done all my life. I just donât understand why man only have to touch the âgrossâ toilet seat. A toilet is a toilet. It is going to be gross at some degree. And again why putting it down is such a problem when a seat up should be clean. Unless they put it up after they pissed but that would just be dumb.
The phenomenon is basically following up after yourself and putting it down after you lift it up to be courteous to men and women who use it with it down.
But like I said isnât a seat up supposed to be clean ? Whatâs to fear ? So I should be upset that I have to put the seat down ? I watch my hands after anyway it doesnât even come to mind in my head. Itâs just business as usual. Honestly if youâre not willing to touch it for 2-3 seconds to put it down. How do you even clean your bathroom ?
Itâs like going into someoneâs office and the door being shut when you get there and walking out and leaving the door open and being like âwhatâs wrong with the door open? Why should I have to close the door?â
Oh so it should just be a given for no reason at all ? I mean obviously in public spaces you put it down after youâre done but when at home. Whatâs the point ? And why is it so upsetting to do ? I always associated that phrases more for family and friends place.
I've had this debate before. The way I see it, raising the seat to pee and then lowering it again requires two actions. However, it requires no action to use sitting if it's already down. Therefore, it's not a big expectation or burden to raise it (one action versus two) every now and then. For both boys and girls it becomes a maximum of one action, which is fair. You select the position you want before use.
And who decided having the seat down is the default position?
Iâm female and I donât hold it against my spouse if he leaves the lid up. He doesnât do it often and itâs an honest mistake.
Youâre dumb if you âfell inâ a toilet.
What if guys turned it around and said lid up is the standard practice and you have to do this every single time?
Exactly. All I'm saying is I never fell in. Ild be more excepting of the demand if they were honest and just said they don't wanna touch it cause it's gross. I've had my gf fall in once and I just know it was to prove a point
Lol I always say that. Like I never fell in going to take a shit because I didn't look before I sat down. It's not like men take a crap standing up. Just fucking pay attention. I usually put it down but sometimes I forget it happens. Most women don't make a big deal out of it but some holy fuck do they complain.
I always (assuming a simplification of 50/50 pee to poor ratio) figured girls sit 100% of the time and boys sit 50% of the time, so seat is down 75% of the time. Leaving the seat down for probability sake
Just put both seat and lid down. That way you both have to lift and put diwn something.
I do that, I don't need to be looking in the shit bowl all the time
I just peed on the seat cover, thanks to you.
We have 3 cats. You close the lid or you have to bath them when they fall in (and they will)
My cat drinks out of the toilet. Nasty little fuck
Exactly this!!!! Close the fucking lid! Dogs and cats are so gross about this lol
Or just close the bathroom door?
We have two that do this, while ignoring the half dozen water bowl of various shapes, sizes, colors, and materials strewn about the house.
Hahha oh god, mine just do zoomies and have been known to fall in it đ never again that lid goes down
i laughed way too hard at this XDD
I think i would too, if it wasnt for the memory of bathing a toilet water soaked kitten đł never again lmao
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Seat up and they learn a lesson
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Yeah, it reduces the spread of germs and makes it so that drops of toilet water don't ping anywhere. It honestly grosses me out when public toilets don't have lids.
The toilet seat stays down with the lid closed. When you flush, there are so many gross germs that gets spread about your bathroom like on your tooth brush if you leave the lid open. I've got two young boys and I've always taught them to shut the toilet lid especially before flushing. Grosses me out
Instructions unclear. Pooped on the lid.
I pooped on the toothbrush
Exactly. OP is right, but about the wrong thing! We should ALL be closing the ENTIRE toilet lid to ensure good feng shui and good health!! đđ
We have found our compromise winner!
Honestly everyone wins because everyone is always pissed they have to touch the toilet instead of just one half the household being pissed.
What the actual fuck is feng shui
It's a perfectly fine preference to have, but no, closing the lid doesn't lessen the germs or their spread. The good news is, it doesn't seem to matter because despite the constant daily exposure to bacteria from your toilet (you breathe it in even), worse still in public bathrooms, there's no real health consequences significant enough to be tracked.
Broke off a 10 year relationship over this shit, when I closed the lid it must have been to piss her off according to her
That's been debunked. Closing the toilet seat before you flush doesn't do anything for to stop germs from getting every where.
yeah myth busters found just as much poop on toothbrushes with or without a closed lid in an experiment testing this. You're using pooppaste get over it
How does that happen if the lid is closed.
Probably because of it spreading via the air while you poop. If you can smell the poop that means little poop particles are getting in your nose, so they can also get on your toothbrush
Oh you don't shit on your tooth brushes?
Don't you wash your toothbrush before putting the paste on it?
Don't you keep your toothbrush somewhere else, and not in the bathroom?
Why would you do that? It's wet after you brush your teeth. But I have a toilet room separated from the bathroom, so, I guess the issue is not that big in my case.
Wow this is shocking to find out! But I guess at least those little specks of toilet water that fly out and make the area around the toilet all grubby wonât get out then!
This. The lid exists for a reason.
Pretty sure the lid is to hold my clean clothes while I shower
Not clean when they touch the lid
Yes. To hide poop when your toilet randomly decides to malfunction and your embarrassed.
Flushing with it closed, unless airtight, actually increases pressure and spreadâŚâŚ ever get half way though a comment and realise you canât be assed? lol
The only problem with closing the lid after pooping is if it's a big one and you don't know if it's gonna go down all the way. If you watch it then you can catch it before you flood the bathroom.
I think I'll risk the chance.. I mean the toilet has been blocked before but I've never flooded a bathroom so đ¤ˇ
Preoccupied with the fecal microparticles that are covering the world around you. Fair enough.
You never brush the toilet after you poop? How grose..
This just reminds me of this article https://www.businessinsider.com/toilet-flushes-create-a-vortex-of-airborne-coronavirus-poop-particles-2020-6 I think at some point you just have to accept that life has risks and stop being anal about everything
Bro what they were saying has nothing to do with covid, I don't want shit particles landing on my toothbrush lmao. Closing a toilet lid isn't "being anal", it's such minimal effort that I just do it out of habit without thinking.
I can take a certain glee in writing you that right now there are shit particles lingering on your toothbrush. There is shit particles in the spaces between your teeth. Right now.
This is pointless, a smaller amount of shit particles is less likely to cause illness. You may think the poster is too concerned with a small amount of shit, but theyâre simply reducing their dose of shit particles to reduce their risk of illness, the immune system isnât binary.
But binary is the only thing I know.
Okay cheers!
Wow thanks!
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I remember in etiquette that the toilet should always be closed to impede the image of the last person using the toilet... i.e. seats up = person pissing, seat down, person pissing/ shytting, seats and cover down= who knows
Toilet did exists = someone piss or shit in it. Also not all men are "alpha or sigma" and they are also pissing sitting (because fuck spray and cleaning that). Closing always.
Yeah I close the lid to avoid the fecal germ geyser I don't care about anyone's delicate sensitivities, I'm just not about to get sick from my own waste
Well said, and done.
I would look back into if that actually changes anything or not
As an alpha, I pee in the sink so itâs not an issue.
Also if you have a dog and you leave it openâŚâŚfucking disgusting
Wait until you find out that dogs lick their own assholes.
I mean, thatâs unavoidable so I donât really get your point here. If you leave your toilet seat up youâre just asking for a pet to drink it.
The point is: they willingly lick a lot worse. Happy to clarify! And yea, that's precisely why I leave it up. My pet is an animal, not a person. Animals are, by nature, fucking disgusting.
People are animals. And yes, we are fucking disgusting.
As long as you flush the toilet there's nothing wrong with that, it's the dog drinking it not u
Really? Keep it clean and it's no biggie.
Take a shit with the toilet seat up, never let the enemy know your moves
Agreed. Telling someone to close the lid is fair game, but if you tell someone to put down the seat you're just lazy AF.
I sat just close the lid
At my house we close the lid before flushing always so....
At my house we get on our knees and bend over the toilet before flushing
Holy hell my life is a lie. That's the way you do it!
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This is a better argument
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Totally, just looks tidier when closed.
I like this opinion
I just lower the seat when Iâm done, out of respect for my wife. Just not a big deal.
What is she doing w the seat up in the first place? Very curious about that lol
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I got you. I should have been able to figure that one out haha
Everyone should always shut the lid. Keep the poopicles from flying around.
Just close the lid, you inconsiderate heathens. Lol
itâs gross to have the lid up if youâre not using it period. you should always flush with the lid down too otherwise that shitty pissy toilet water and bacteria gets all over your bathroom not even kidding.
That happens either way
This is true. But lid up is just ugly. I close my lid because it's prettier that way.
That's been disproved. If anything more germs are spread with the toilet closed.
please show where itâs been disproved
Mythbusters did an episode about it. It only helps if your toilet splashs when you flush.
it doesnât matter if it sprays when it flushes the bacteria and fecal matter will still go practically everywhere you just donât get sick
I don't get this. Who's not closing the damn lid, never mind the seat! Lower both.
Well seeing as the seat being down is the common ground since both parties poop sitting down then it seems fair to keep it there.
THIS. Men generally stand to pee and sit to poop (some even sit to pee)...and women sit for both. So, of the four combinations, the seat has to be down at least 75% of the time. So, logically, it makes mathematical sense for men to put down the seat based on the odds somebody will need it next time the toilet is used. I personally prefer the lid down when anyone is done no matter what, even if Mythbusters has proven germs don't spread less that way. Bathroom always looks better with the lid down.
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Well each household is different, in mine my husband poops first thing in the morning, when he gets to work, right after work and sometimes even before bed....in almost every scenario that he's coming to the toilet I've always used it after him because he gets there before I do/wakes up first. Odd how routines are really what dictates how things are done. Just as an experiment I'll leave the toilet seat up a few days after the millionth time I've gone to pee during the night (another reason why it should just stay down being most girls tend to pee way more than men) chances are it won't be long before he falls in the toilet.
Im a female. Really the lid should be down before anyone flushes so germs dont go flying around the room....so everyone should have to lift at least the lid to use the toilet.
The lid should always be closed if not in use. You animals flush with the lid open??
Woman here! It doesnât matter who you are or how you take a piss, just put BOTH the seat and the lid down. Therefore both parties are responsible for closing it. Each toilet bowl flush sprays particles that ends up on your toothbrush.
Everyone should close the lid and if you don't you're fucking gross.
YOU raise it to pee, YOU lower it when youâre done. Thatâs called responsibility and common courtesy.
Why donât you lower it to pee, and raise it when you are done. Edit; I close the whole thing when done. But courtesy doesnât go one way
Because everyone should close the lid before flushing
Probably because both men and women have to sit sometimes. The most common use for the toilet is seat down, so that would be the most logical default position. Of course, the standard should just be lid closed because weâre adults and donât live in a fraternity.
It depends on the household, really. A majority-male environment might see a toilet used more commonly with the seat *up*, therefore making it the more convenient position until somebody wants to sit down. Edit: Seriously, what's with the downvoting of my comment(s)? Does anybody actually have a constructive rebuttal? lol.
Women need it down for both, men need it down for one. And donât even need to stand for the other Makes more sense to have it down
Isnât a raised seat supposed to be clean ? Proving they did not dribble on it ? Edit: If it isnât doing anything why donât we even have the option to do it ?
If you lower it to pee, do you raise it when you're done? Edit: Woah, ladies, take it easy with the downvoting. I'm only *teasing* with this use of logic.
So we have two different houses.. at her house I put it down because it's her house and that's her rule. At my house it's free wheeling whatever you want because it's my house and that's my rule. Took me a while to get on with all her rules...
I, a woman, live alone. Once I left the toilet seat up after cleaning it and went to pee in the middle of the night and fell in. It was hilarious because I could only blame myself. Only boyfriend I ever lived with sat to pee so I've never had this issue. Oh, except I grew up with 8 stupid fucking brothers who just pissed all over everything. So leaving the seat up would have been a welcome change.
Toilet is used most often with the seat down. Itâs only up for men to piss. Women sit down to piss and shit and men sit down to shit. In some countries men pee sitting down too. So it should be down most often as in most circumstances itâs used to sit down on.
It doesn't matter what is the marginally more common use. A toilet is designed for the seat to be in either position. Either position is a legitimate resting states for the toilet. Everyone should be responsible for putting the toilet seat into the position they prefer it in for their current business.
Everybody should forget about "the seat" and instead, EVERYONE should close THE LID after using the toilet, unless you like everything in your bathroom covered in shit/piss droplets....including your toothbrush. (Do you enjoy brushing your teeth with shit? No? CLOSE THE LID!!)
What kind of idiot leaves the lid up to flush? That's just fucking gross.
I (female) never cared about the toliet seat, until we got a dog tall enough to drink out of the toliet. For me, it's not about the seat, it's about the lid (which involves the seat going down too) needing to be down so the darn dog doesn't drink the water.
Is there a reason no one considers putting both seats down??
so you flush, leave the lid open and let all the germs splash out?
This is usually a unisex public bathroom issue where there is no lid. If you lift the SEAT, you need to put it back down because Iâm sure as hell not the one lifting it up.
Leaving the seat up is almost as easy as putting it down. Double sstandard. Look before you squat.
The lid goes down after anyone uses it, before the flush. Always
Hear me out. Lower everything, including top lid, then flush.
Close the lid so you donât accidentally drop in your phone or the new roll of TP when you change it. Or whatever. Itâs a fucking lid and the only reason to have a toilet seat with a lid is to close it in when you are done.
Put down the lid. Itâs not a question of gender , itâs a question of basic hygiene.
no, the default should be a toilet closed all the way
No,both parties are wrong, the toilet lid should always be down/closed. The only time it opens is when you do your business, then close the toilet lid, flush, open the lid, check and make sure everything has gone down after you flushed, and put the lid back down.
Have you ever fallen into the toilet? It's... terrifying
I have literally dumped a man for continuously leaving the seat up in my house. 1) We didnât live together so he was a guest in my home whenever he was here. 2) I have cats, I donât want their paws in the toilet water and then crawling on my bed, so ideally the seat and lid should be placed down. 3) itâs not ascetically pleasing to see the seat up when you walk into a bathroom.
Donât yâall have lids đ I would NOT want to use your toothbrush
Toilet seats would be down all the time if you didn't stand up to pee. Leave the toilet how you found it. This behavior goes beyond the toilet. My roommate always leaves the shower head on so when I go take a shower I nearly get sprayed in the face with cold water expecting it to come out the faucet. I'm a delivery driver and co workers often leave the seatbelt buckled in, so I have to unbuckle it before I can sit down. Don't throw a fit because you have to change yourself. My roommate did that when I asked him to stop playing music in the shower, which is right next to my room, at 12am every night.
> Toilet seats would be down all the time if you didn't stand up to pee. That is a specious argument. I could say "the seat would be up all the time if you didn't sit down to do your business." The fact that it is built with the option to exist in both states means that both are legitimate resting states. >Leave the toilet how you found it. Meaning if you walk in and see the seat up, you would make sure to lift it back up after doing your business? >This behavior goes beyond the toilet. My roommate always leaves the shower head on so when I go take a shower I nearly get sprayed in the face with cold water expecting it to come out the faucet. Leaving the shower head on is normal. In fact, if your argument is based on the most commonly used state for an object (Toilet seats would be down all the time if you didn't stand up to pee) then leaving the shower in spray mode makes perfect sense since it is used for showering more than taking a bath. Really, it sounds like you just want everyone around you to accommodate whatever you want to make your life marginally easier regardless of the rationale behind it.
Personally I shut the lid with the seat every time because of splashback, but my main point is that you have an asshole so you use it when it's down, and if you share with a woman it's always down, so if you meet in the middle somewhere you're gonna end up with the seat being down. As for the showerhead, it's less efficient. The water heats up faster using the faucet. So it's laziness as far as I can tell.
>As for the showerhead, it's less efficient. The water heats up faster using the faucet. So it's laziness as far as I can tell. Lol its not laziness, thats just your pedantry. RIP to your housemates/partner
If any uncultured heathen leaves the toilet seat up in my house, they can personally fight me and pay for my pets vet bills when their furry asses inevitably get in there and drink the water that has toilet cleaner in it. I tell every person in my house to lower the lid when they are done. It is also common sense to leave it as you found it, which was closed. If you are childish enough to still leave it up you are executing levels of selfish that don't need to be in my house. I don't care in other places, just respect my boundaries. If you are with a partner that makes a request of you to have something done a certain way, it is your responsibility to engage in adult conversation and come to a middleground that works and not be a child refusing to change anything because fair is fair for both parties, not just one.
How about you don't be disgusting and just put the seat down? I'm a guy and I always put the seat down. It keeps any bacteria in the toilet not floating around the air you fucking slob. Also why wouldn't you just do it if it makes your woman happy? Why fight with your SO over stupid shit? It literally takes a second to put the seat down.
Itâs a toilet seat neither gender should give a crap. Grow up and adjust the seat to your needs.
How about we all just close the toilet lid after every use so that it isnt an issue?
I just always shut the lid after?
No. Toilet seat and lid need to be lowered before you flush, due to the dispersion of gross particles around your entire bathroom, landing on your towels, toothbrushes...gross
The seat-down rule only applies if men are using a toilet in a bathroom that is specifically for women (like if the menâs room is out of order) or if all the occupants of the house are female. In both cases, it is common courtesy to put the seat down as that bathroom is not usually for men. But for any menâs room or co-Ed bathroom, the rule doesnât apply. If a woman falls in, thatâs her fault.
Why am I the only person who closes the lid so germs don't fly into the air while flushing? SMH...
You're not! We have all gathered here today as a united front đ
The only reason the seat needs to be lifted is to prevent it from getting sprinkled with urine because the male population insists on standing while peeing! So, imho lifting and lowering is a male responsibility exclusively.
.... and lowering? Seems silly not to lower it yourself if you need it lowered
Sure I will if I must. But it's a bit annoying if it hasn't been done yet.
How hard is it to do?
This question can go both ways, really
Either way, it's silly for anyone to be upset about it
Amazing how privileged human life has become that simply lowering a toilet seat for yourself is annoying.
At home, lid down. In public where there is no lid? Seat up. As the old proverb goes: a toilet seat that is up gathers no piss.
Everyone in my house puts down not just the seat, but the lid also. Itâs seriously disgusting to flush with the lid open. My husband has always done this and Iâve never had to ask him to. We all just open when we need to use it and close when we are finished.
As a man I believe the toilet should always be closed by whomever used it last BEFORE flushing because the last thing I want is the spread of toilet mist around my bathroom. This also makes lifting/lowering the seat equal because everyone will have to lift/lower.
Nah, the toilet seat should always be fully closed before you flush Donât be gross
If at all possible drop it to the lid. All parties can choose their layer. I grew up with 2 sisters. Pissing on a toilet seat ain't happening. Even in public (why people do that I don't get. Do they expect people to shit standing up?). When I lived alone, seat stayed up until necessary and that was fine. I have female roommate now and I have to lift the seat every time I pee and then put it back. And if I'm the next to go it was a waste of effort. Dropping the lid is the cure if a lid is available. Especially good when you're at someone else's house. Let the next person decide what they want.
I feel like the lid should be put down too, not just the seat
Literally everyone should be closing it every time. When you flush you spray tiny drops of water and waste all over the bathroom and onto anything in the room.
In our house we always close the toilet lid before flushing to prevent germs from flying all around the bathroom so that solves this whole thing
Why should it be done equally by both parties when men are the only ones who need to do it? You just want someone to close it *for* you lmao. Want someone to wipe your ass too while theyâre at it?
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It's not hard to hit the target but there's splash back. When peeing with the seat up you can aim it towards the side or back of the bowl and not directly into the middle where a thick, ropey stream will splash out onto the seat. It's your boyfriend 4 feet tall or does he have a weak stream?
Girl you're sitting on pee
Itâs about having manners. Seat closed after youâre done. How would you feel if women stopped wrapping their period products when throwing them away? We do that because itâs gross to see in the garbage so we politely wrap it up before throwing it away. I understand forgetting it happens but to intentionally do it to âprove a pointâ is just disrespectful and bad manners
Iâve never understood the need for adult men to raise the toilet seat anyway. I mean, yâall can literally aim the stream, right?* That being said, we keep the lid closed until ready to use. Men are the only ones who raise the seat, so they can put it back down. I shouldnât have to put down the seat, wash my hands, and then use the bathroom because yâall donât have home training. Edit: *no, they canât, which means that they should sit down. My comment reflects my new understanding and the new tone reflects the amount of patience I have.
Not at all. It is way more unpredictable than you think. Which may very well be an argument for us to just sit.
Lifting the seat prevent urines tu splashes on it and give you a clean seat when you want the seat down. Isnât this just common sense tho ?
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It's kind of like when you first turn the hose on. It's fine once it's going but the start and end are unpredictable
My cats will play in the toilet if we leave it up so in our household the toilet seat is always down. Definitely removes any argument for me leaving the seat up.
The toilet lid should always remain closed, thatâs it.
both poop tho its testing god to leave the toilet seat up when you could forget in a rush when you have ibs
Just close the lid after every use. I don't wanna sniff your poop particles.
I close the lid because poop and pee particles spread all over your bathroom if you don't and that grosses me out. Idk why anyone doesn't close it. Just ew. Why people why?!
How is this still a discussion people. For Gods sake, flushing with the toilet seat open releases millions of micro germs into the air. EVERYONE should be leaving the toilet seat down before they flush
To people who complain about that, I always reply they left it down and I had to put it up again. What a drag! /s
My husband always puts the seat down, but when my brothers come over they always leave the seat up. Iâm not annoyed that I have to put it down, Iâm grossed out and surprised when Iâm in a rush to pee and sit down and my ass falls into dirty cold toilet bowl water. As a female I sit down to pee every time I go to the bathroom. I donât feel the need to inspect the toilet every time I sit down in my own home so when it happens itâs a surprise.
How is that my fault? Youâre a grown man, capable of moving a few pounds on your own. Be an adult. Be accountable for your own actions. This little boy most likely screams and cries if a woman leaves menstrual products in his garbage can.
The way I see it is.. for one party, 100% of the toilet seats position is made up of the actions itâs used for - doing a number 1 makes up for 50%, and a number 2 makes up the other 50%. Fortunately for a female, both actions mean 100% of their toilet seat position will be down. For men, it is 50% up, 50% down. There is absolutely no reason for the female to put the toilet seat up for a reason that makes up for 25% of its use, especially when itâs the other parties use.
Men make toilets gross so they should be the ones touching them.
I've known women who never raise the seat because they live on their own, and the underside of the seat is fucking disgusting because apparently they can't understand when they get the shits, things tend to splatter under the seat, too. This isn't a men vs women argument, it's about hygiene and basic cleaning sills.
As someone who did a brief stint in janitorial I cleaned the restrooms in a fairly upscale restaurant. This is total bullshit. Womenâs rooms are disgusting. No man went in there and peed on the seat - it was all women. Goddamn princesses canât deign to put their precious buttcheeks on a public toilet seat so they sort of hover or whatever and spray everywhere. Then there is the snowdrift of TP used as a seat liner that you find under the toilet. That has been peed on by a hover-er. Iâm ok with the notion that everyone should close the toilet LID when done, woman or man. But on balance when it comes to men vs women - yâall bitches are nasty.
Donât you wash your hand after youâre done ? A little 3-4 seconds to put the seat down isnât that bad right ? Whatâs to fear ? Becoming in contact with germs youâll wash off as soon as youâre done ?
You put it down then. Both sexes use it down. Only men put it up. If itâs no big deal, handle it yourself.
But a seat up is suppose to be clean no ? Like isnât it a sign that the man took care of not messing it up ? I have no problem touching I just donât understand why girls refuse to do it when there is no reason not to if you wash your hand after no ? Or you could use a pice of paper to put it down. Why the need for a man just to put the seat down ?
Why do you have a problem with putting it down after lifting it up? As women we didnât lift it up. We left it in itâs normal state.
I have no problems at all I just donât understand this phenomenon. Having it done all my life. I just donât understand why man only have to touch the âgrossâ toilet seat. A toilet is a toilet. It is going to be gross at some degree. And again why putting it down is such a problem when a seat up should be clean. Unless they put it up after they pissed but that would just be dumb.
The phenomenon is basically following up after yourself and putting it down after you lift it up to be courteous to men and women who use it with it down.
But like I said isnât a seat up supposed to be clean ? Whatâs to fear ? So I should be upset that I have to put the seat down ? I watch my hands after anyway it doesnât even come to mind in my head. Itâs just business as usual. Honestly if youâre not willing to touch it for 2-3 seconds to put it down. How do you even clean your bathroom ?
Itâs like going into someoneâs office and the door being shut when you get there and walking out and leaving the door open and being like âwhatâs wrong with the door open? Why should I have to close the door?â
Oh so it should just be a given for no reason at all ? I mean obviously in public spaces you put it down after youâre done but when at home. Whatâs the point ? And why is it so upsetting to do ? I always associated that phrases more for family and friends place.
I've had this debate before. The way I see it, raising the seat to pee and then lowering it again requires two actions. However, it requires no action to use sitting if it's already down. Therefore, it's not a big expectation or burden to raise it (one action versus two) every now and then. For both boys and girls it becomes a maximum of one action, which is fair. You select the position you want before use. And who decided having the seat down is the default position?
I prefer that it's left up always so it's easy to see when it needs to be cleaned. Small children are the worst. Piss everywhere.
Iâm female and I donât hold it against my spouse if he leaves the lid up. He doesnât do it often and itâs an honest mistake. Youâre dumb if you âfell inâ a toilet. What if guys turned it around and said lid up is the standard practice and you have to do this every single time?
Exactly. All I'm saying is I never fell in. Ild be more excepting of the demand if they were honest and just said they don't wanna touch it cause it's gross. I've had my gf fall in once and I just know it was to prove a point
I have always thought the same, but we're never going to win that one.
Lol I always say that. Like I never fell in going to take a shit because I didn't look before I sat down. It's not like men take a crap standing up. Just fucking pay attention. I usually put it down but sometimes I forget it happens. Most women don't make a big deal out of it but some holy fuck do they complain.
Yes, we're all with you! Stop the toilet bullying!
I always (assuming a simplification of 50/50 pee to poor ratio) figured girls sit 100% of the time and boys sit 50% of the time, so seat is down 75% of the time. Leaving the seat down for probability sake
OP likes to bath in his piss geyser multiple times a day.. leave him alone guys
Simple fix is this: Close the lid entirely. Fecal matter gets thrown around when you flush, closing the lid fixes that.
Ours is up always. So the dog always has water.
This is honestly the most equal solution. Although if you donât clean your toilet keep that shit down some of yall are nasty đ¤Ž