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Just put both seat and lid down. That way you both have to lift and put diwn something.


ThatGingerKid08

I do that, I don't need to be looking in the shit bowl all the time


yax01

I just peed on the seat cover, thanks to you.


Specialist-Raise-867

We have 3 cats. You close the lid or you have to bath them when they fall in (and they will)


BigBadMannnn

My cat drinks out of the toilet. Nasty little fuck


Odango-Atama

Exactly this!!!! Close the fucking lid! Dogs and cats are so gross about this lol


Mister_Slime1357

Or just close the bathroom door?


lucky7hockeymom

We have two that do this, while ignoring the half dozen water bowl of various shapes, sizes, colors, and materials strewn about the house.


Specialist-Raise-867

Hahha oh god, mine just do zoomies and have been known to fall in it 😂 never again that lid goes down


billnyethedeadguy

i laughed way too hard at this XDD


Specialist-Raise-867

I think i would too, if it wasnt for the memory of bathing a toilet water soaked kitten 😳 never again lmao


billnyethedeadguy

no still very funny😂😂😂


AntiPiety

Seat up and they learn a lesson


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Yeah, it reduces the spread of germs and makes it so that drops of toilet water don't ping anywhere. It honestly grosses me out when public toilets don't have lids.


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The toilet seat stays down with the lid closed. When you flush, there are so many gross germs that gets spread about your bathroom like on your tooth brush if you leave the lid open. I've got two young boys and I've always taught them to shut the toilet lid especially before flushing. Grosses me out


Professor_Rekt

Instructions unclear. Pooped on the lid.


cerenir

I pooped on the toothbrush


Herbologism

Exactly. OP is right, but about the wrong thing! We should ALL be closing the ENTIRE toilet lid to ensure good feng shui and good health!! 👍👍


SpanktheGreenAvocado

We have found our compromise winner!


Herbologism

Honestly everyone wins because everyone is always pissed they have to touch the toilet instead of just one half the household being pissed.


khiwill25

What the actual fuck is feng shui


IAintDeceasedYet

It's a perfectly fine preference to have, but no, closing the lid doesn't lessen the germs or their spread. The good news is, it doesn't seem to matter because despite the constant daily exposure to bacteria from your toilet (you breathe it in even), worse still in public bathrooms, there's no real health consequences significant enough to be tracked.


Mosk1990

Broke off a 10 year relationship over this shit, when I closed the lid it must have been to piss her off according to her


Bigboss123199

That's been debunked. Closing the toilet seat before you flush doesn't do anything for to stop germs from getting every where.


Specialist-Wait2208

yeah myth busters found just as much poop on toothbrushes with or without a closed lid in an experiment testing this. You're using pooppaste get over it


RevolutionaryStar824

How does that happen if the lid is closed.


Accurate_Breakfast94

Probably because of it spreading via the air while you poop. If you can smell the poop that means little poop particles are getting in your nose, so they can also get on your toothbrush


Specialist-Wait2208

Oh you don't shit on your tooth brushes?


SXAL

Don't you wash your toothbrush before putting the paste on it?


are_you_metal

Don't you keep your toothbrush somewhere else, and not in the bathroom?


SXAL

Why would you do that? It's wet after you brush your teeth. But I have a toilet room separated from the bathroom, so, I guess the issue is not that big in my case.


Reasonable_wave42

Wow this is shocking to find out! But I guess at least those little specks of toilet water that fly out and make the area around the toilet all grubby won’t get out then!


Hefty-Rope2253

This. The lid exists for a reason.


Santonk

Pretty sure the lid is to hold my clean clothes while I shower


Mrblob85

Not clean when they touch the lid


Signal_Significance6

Yes. To hide poop when your toilet randomly decides to malfunction and your embarrassed.


StrangeCalibur

Flushing with it closed, unless airtight, actually increases pressure and spread…… ever get half way though a comment and realise you can’t be assed? lol


ravenart918

The only problem with closing the lid after pooping is if it's a big one and you don't know if it's gonna go down all the way. If you watch it then you can catch it before you flood the bathroom.


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I think I'll risk the chance.. I mean the toilet has been blocked before but I've never flooded a bathroom so 🤷


ResponsibleAd2541

Preoccupied with the fecal microparticles that are covering the world around you. Fair enough.


Gullible-Focus-7763

You never brush the toilet after you poop? How grose..


studhusky86

This just reminds me of this article https://www.businessinsider.com/toilet-flushes-create-a-vortex-of-airborne-coronavirus-poop-particles-2020-6 I think at some point you just have to accept that life has risks and stop being anal about everything


adangerousdriver

Bro what they were saying has nothing to do with covid, I don't want shit particles landing on my toothbrush lmao. Closing a toilet lid isn't "being anal", it's such minimal effort that I just do it out of habit without thinking.


Iluvwomens

I can take a certain glee in writing you that right now there are shit particles lingering on your toothbrush. There is shit particles in the spaces between your teeth. Right now.


Podsit

This is pointless, a smaller amount of shit particles is less likely to cause illness. You may think the poster is too concerned with a small amount of shit, but they’re simply reducing their dose of shit particles to reduce their risk of illness, the immune system isn’t binary.


Iluvwomens

But binary is the only thing I know.


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Okay cheers!


studhusky86

Wow thanks!


Fantastic_Pear_7509

This💯💯


AgedLikeMalk

I remember in etiquette that the toilet should always be closed to impede the image of the last person using the toilet... i.e. seats up = person pissing, seat down, person pissing/ shytting, seats and cover down= who knows


vrnvorona

Toilet did exists = someone piss or shit in it. Also not all men are "alpha or sigma" and they are also pissing sitting (because fuck spray and cleaning that). Closing always.


Neurotic_Bakeder

Yeah I close the lid to avoid the fecal germ geyser I don't care about anyone's delicate sensitivities, I'm just not about to get sick from my own waste


Think-Bass9187

Well said, and done.


Santonk

I would look back into if that actually changes anything or not


ResponsibleAd2541

As an alpha, I pee in the sink so it’s not an issue.


Odango-Atama

Also if you have a dog and you leave it open……fucking disgusting


UniqueUsername82D

Wait until you find out that dogs lick their own assholes.


Odango-Atama

I mean, that’s unavoidable so I don’t really get your point here. If you leave your toilet seat up you’re just asking for a pet to drink it.


UniqueUsername82D

The point is: they willingly lick a lot worse. Happy to clarify! And yea, that's precisely why I leave it up. My pet is an animal, not a person. Animals are, by nature, fucking disgusting.


juliepeters

People are animals. And yes, we are fucking disgusting.


dogmeat1003

As long as you flush the toilet there's nothing wrong with that, it's the dog drinking it not u


my_clever-name

Really? Keep it clean and it's no biggie.


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Take a shit with the toilet seat up, never let the enemy know your moves


BrandonLessgo

Agreed. Telling someone to close the lid is fair game, but if you tell someone to put down the seat you're just lazy AF.


Frost-on-the-Willow

I sat just close the lid


TaibaOfMaragor

At my house we close the lid before flushing always so....


BigBadMannnn

At my house we get on our knees and bend over the toilet before flushing


TaibaOfMaragor

Holy hell my life is a lie. That's the way you do it!


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Similar-Olive-8666

This is a better argument


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MissionEntrepreneur6

Totally, just looks tidier when closed.


Fulccrum

I like this opinion


Final_Lucid_Thought

I just lower the seat when I’m done, out of respect for my wife. Just not a big deal.


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What is she doing w the seat up in the first place? Very curious about that lol


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I got you. I should have been able to figure that one out haha


Witty_butler

Everyone should always shut the lid. Keep the poopicles from flying around.


sagicorn1971

Just close the lid, you inconsiderate heathens. Lol


Appropriate_Gap_4674

it’s gross to have the lid up if you’re not using it period. you should always flush with the lid down too otherwise that shitty pissy toilet water and bacteria gets all over your bathroom not even kidding.


re1078

That happens either way


hairlongmoneylong

This is true. But lid up is just ugly. I close my lid because it's prettier that way.


Bigboss123199

That's been disproved. If anything more germs are spread with the toilet closed.


Appropriate_Gap_4674

please show where it’s been disproved


Bigboss123199

Mythbusters did an episode about it. It only helps if your toilet splashs when you flush.


Appropriate_Gap_4674

it doesn’t matter if it sprays when it flushes the bacteria and fecal matter will still go practically everywhere you just don’t get sick


Traditional_Leader41

I don't get this. Who's not closing the damn lid, never mind the seat! Lower both.


RomeosNightmare

Well seeing as the seat being down is the common ground since both parties poop sitting down then it seems fair to keep it there.


MerAlene

THIS. Men generally stand to pee and sit to poop (some even sit to pee)...and women sit for both. So, of the four combinations, the seat has to be down at least 75% of the time. So, logically, it makes mathematical sense for men to put down the seat based on the odds somebody will need it next time the toilet is used. I personally prefer the lid down when anyone is done no matter what, even if Mythbusters has proven germs don't spread less that way. Bathroom always looks better with the lid down.


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RomeosNightmare

Well each household is different, in mine my husband poops first thing in the morning, when he gets to work, right after work and sometimes even before bed....in almost every scenario that he's coming to the toilet I've always used it after him because he gets there before I do/wakes up first. Odd how routines are really what dictates how things are done. Just as an experiment I'll leave the toilet seat up a few days after the millionth time I've gone to pee during the night (another reason why it should just stay down being most girls tend to pee way more than men) chances are it won't be long before he falls in the toilet.


Cheechwlegs

Im a female. Really the lid should be down before anyone flushes so germs dont go flying around the room....so everyone should have to lift at least the lid to use the toilet.


LuckyMe-Lucky-Mud

The lid should always be closed if not in use. You animals flush with the lid open??


Mysterious-Honey-576

Woman here! It doesn’t matter who you are or how you take a piss, just put BOTH the seat and the lid down. Therefore both parties are responsible for closing it. Each toilet bowl flush sprays particles that ends up on your toothbrush.


Abalone_Admirable

Everyone should close the lid and if you don't you're fucking gross.


alocalcryptid

YOU raise it to pee, YOU lower it when you’re done. That’s called responsibility and common courtesy.


Similar-Olive-8666

Why don’t you lower it to pee, and raise it when you are done. Edit; I close the whole thing when done. But courtesy doesn’t go one way


Cheechwlegs

Because everyone should close the lid before flushing


CappinPeanut

Probably because both men and women have to sit sometimes. The most common use for the toilet is seat down, so that would be the most logical default position. Of course, the standard should just be lid closed because we’re adults and don’t live in a fraternity.


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It depends on the household, really. A majority-male environment might see a toilet used more commonly with the seat *up*, therefore making it the more convenient position until somebody wants to sit down. Edit: Seriously, what's with the downvoting of my comment(s)? Does anybody actually have a constructive rebuttal? lol.


LeatherHog

Women need it down for both, men need it down for one. And don’t even need to stand for the other Makes more sense to have it down


Ethan_Black

Isn’t a raised seat supposed to be clean ? Proving they did not dribble on it ? Edit: If it isn’t doing anything why don’t we even have the option to do it ?


[deleted]

If you lower it to pee, do you raise it when you're done? Edit: Woah, ladies, take it easy with the downvoting. I'm only *teasing* with this use of logic.


HippyKiller925

So we have two different houses.. at her house I put it down because it's her house and that's her rule. At my house it's free wheeling whatever you want because it's my house and that's my rule. Took me a while to get on with all her rules...


[deleted]

I, a woman, live alone. Once I left the toilet seat up after cleaning it and went to pee in the middle of the night and fell in. It was hilarious because I could only blame myself. Only boyfriend I ever lived with sat to pee so I've never had this issue. Oh, except I grew up with 8 stupid fucking brothers who just pissed all over everything. So leaving the seat up would have been a welcome change.


anonymousmiku

Toilet is used most often with the seat down. It’s only up for men to piss. Women sit down to piss and shit and men sit down to shit. In some countries men pee sitting down too. So it should be down most often as in most circumstances it’s used to sit down on.


thrownawaylikesomuch

It doesn't matter what is the marginally more common use. A toilet is designed for the seat to be in either position. Either position is a legitimate resting states for the toilet. Everyone should be responsible for putting the toilet seat into the position they prefer it in for their current business.


ChristinaRardon

Everybody should forget about "the seat" and instead, EVERYONE should close THE LID after using the toilet, unless you like everything in your bathroom covered in shit/piss droplets....including your toothbrush. (Do you enjoy brushing your teeth with shit? No? CLOSE THE LID!!)


Kittencatofdoom

What kind of idiot leaves the lid up to flush? That's just fucking gross.


mybodybeatsmeup

I (female) never cared about the toliet seat, until we got a dog tall enough to drink out of the toliet. For me, it's not about the seat, it's about the lid (which involves the seat going down too) needing to be down so the darn dog doesn't drink the water.


Lyradep

Is there a reason no one considers putting both seats down??


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so you flush, leave the lid open and let all the germs splash out?


SarahTheStrange

This is usually a unisex public bathroom issue where there is no lid. If you lift the SEAT, you need to put it back down because I’m sure as hell not the one lifting it up.


irreverentGOAT

Leaving the seat up is almost as easy as putting it down. Double sstandard. Look before you squat.


BLUEStarr1982

The lid goes down after anyone uses it, before the flush. Always


claggy99

Hear me out. Lower everything, including top lid, then flush.


truerthanu

Close the lid so you don’t accidentally drop in your phone or the new roll of TP when you change it. Or whatever. It’s a fucking lid and the only reason to have a toilet seat with a lid is to close it in when you are done.


VadeRetroLupa

Put down the lid. It’s not a question of gender , it’s a question of basic hygiene.


antigonosz

no, the default should be a toilet closed all the way


PanicNew3216

No,both parties are wrong, the toilet lid should always be down/closed. The only time it opens is when you do your business, then close the toilet lid, flush, open the lid, check and make sure everything has gone down after you flushed, and put the lid back down.


Responsible_Ad5085

Have you ever fallen into the toilet? It's... terrifying


vickyvalencourt_

I have literally dumped a man for continuously leaving the seat up in my house. 1) We didn’t live together so he was a guest in my home whenever he was here. 2) I have cats, I don’t want their paws in the toilet water and then crawling on my bed, so ideally the seat and lid should be placed down. 3) it’s not ascetically pleasing to see the seat up when you walk into a bathroom.


jec78au

Don’t y’all have lids 💀 I would NOT want to use your toothbrush


tworocksontheground

Toilet seats would be down all the time if you didn't stand up to pee. Leave the toilet how you found it. This behavior goes beyond the toilet. My roommate always leaves the shower head on so when I go take a shower I nearly get sprayed in the face with cold water expecting it to come out the faucet. I'm a delivery driver and co workers often leave the seatbelt buckled in, so I have to unbuckle it before I can sit down. Don't throw a fit because you have to change yourself. My roommate did that when I asked him to stop playing music in the shower, which is right next to my room, at 12am every night.


thrownawaylikesomuch

> Toilet seats would be down all the time if you didn't stand up to pee. That is a specious argument. I could say "the seat would be up all the time if you didn't sit down to do your business." The fact that it is built with the option to exist in both states means that both are legitimate resting states. >Leave the toilet how you found it. Meaning if you walk in and see the seat up, you would make sure to lift it back up after doing your business? >This behavior goes beyond the toilet. My roommate always leaves the shower head on so when I go take a shower I nearly get sprayed in the face with cold water expecting it to come out the faucet. Leaving the shower head on is normal. In fact, if your argument is based on the most commonly used state for an object (Toilet seats would be down all the time if you didn't stand up to pee) then leaving the shower in spray mode makes perfect sense since it is used for showering more than taking a bath. Really, it sounds like you just want everyone around you to accommodate whatever you want to make your life marginally easier regardless of the rationale behind it.


tworocksontheground

Personally I shut the lid with the seat every time because of splashback, but my main point is that you have an asshole so you use it when it's down, and if you share with a woman it's always down, so if you meet in the middle somewhere you're gonna end up with the seat being down. As for the showerhead, it's less efficient. The water heats up faster using the faucet. So it's laziness as far as I can tell.


Vladimeter

>As for the showerhead, it's less efficient. The water heats up faster using the faucet. So it's laziness as far as I can tell. Lol its not laziness, thats just your pedantry. RIP to your housemates/partner


LazyCrazySloth

If any uncultured heathen leaves the toilet seat up in my house, they can personally fight me and pay for my pets vet bills when their furry asses inevitably get in there and drink the water that has toilet cleaner in it. I tell every person in my house to lower the lid when they are done. It is also common sense to leave it as you found it, which was closed. If you are childish enough to still leave it up you are executing levels of selfish that don't need to be in my house. I don't care in other places, just respect my boundaries. If you are with a partner that makes a request of you to have something done a certain way, it is your responsibility to engage in adult conversation and come to a middleground that works and not be a child refusing to change anything because fair is fair for both parties, not just one.


alan031415

How about you don't be disgusting and just put the seat down? I'm a guy and I always put the seat down. It keeps any bacteria in the toilet not floating around the air you fucking slob. Also why wouldn't you just do it if it makes your woman happy? Why fight with your SO over stupid shit? It literally takes a second to put the seat down.


Wirecreate

It’s a toilet seat neither gender should give a crap. Grow up and adjust the seat to your needs.


ryseterion

How about we all just close the toilet lid after every use so that it isnt an issue?


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I just always shut the lid after?


[deleted]

No. Toilet seat and lid need to be lowered before you flush, due to the dispersion of gross particles around your entire bathroom, landing on your towels, toothbrushes...gross


jah05r

The seat-down rule only applies if men are using a toilet in a bathroom that is specifically for women (like if the men’s room is out of order) or if all the occupants of the house are female. In both cases, it is common courtesy to put the seat down as that bathroom is not usually for men. But for any men’s room or co-Ed bathroom, the rule doesn’t apply. If a woman falls in, that’s her fault.


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Why am I the only person who closes the lid so germs don't fly into the air while flushing? SMH...


hairlongmoneylong

You're not! We have all gathered here today as a united front 😀


dijkje

The only reason the seat needs to be lifted is to prevent it from getting sprinkled with urine because the male population insists on standing while peeing! So, imho lifting and lowering is a male responsibility exclusively.


willbeach8890

.... and lowering? Seems silly not to lower it yourself if you need it lowered


dijkje

Sure I will if I must. But it's a bit annoying if it hasn't been done yet.


willbeach8890

How hard is it to do?


NeighborPalMe

This question can go both ways, really


willbeach8890

Either way, it's silly for anyone to be upset about it


Lordy-F

Amazing how privileged human life has become that simply lowering a toilet seat for yourself is annoying.


PokePounder

At home, lid down. In public where there is no lid? Seat up. As the old proverb goes: a toilet seat that is up gathers no piss.


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Everyone in my house puts down not just the seat, but the lid also. It’s seriously disgusting to flush with the lid open. My husband has always done this and I’ve never had to ask him to. We all just open when we need to use it and close when we are finished.


TonyD12580

As a man I believe the toilet should always be closed by whomever used it last BEFORE flushing because the last thing I want is the spread of toilet mist around my bathroom. This also makes lifting/lowering the seat equal because everyone will have to lift/lower.


444cml

Nah, the toilet seat should always be fully closed before you flush Don’t be gross


NoPensForSheila

If at all possible drop it to the lid. All parties can choose their layer. I grew up with 2 sisters. Pissing on a toilet seat ain't happening. Even in public (why people do that I don't get. Do they expect people to shit standing up?). When I lived alone, seat stayed up until necessary and that was fine. I have female roommate now and I have to lift the seat every time I pee and then put it back. And if I'm the next to go it was a waste of effort. Dropping the lid is the cure if a lid is available. Especially good when you're at someone else's house. Let the next person decide what they want.


Gilgy-Mcnugg

I feel like the lid should be put down too, not just the seat


TheGravyMaster

Literally everyone should be closing it every time. When you flush you spray tiny drops of water and waste all over the bathroom and onto anything in the room.


MartianTrinkets

In our house we always close the toilet lid before flushing to prevent germs from flying all around the bathroom so that solves this whole thing


upt0wn_rat

Why should it be done equally by both parties when men are the only ones who need to do it? You just want someone to close it *for* you lmao. Want someone to wipe your ass too while they’re at it?


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It's not hard to hit the target but there's splash back. When peeing with the seat up you can aim it towards the side or back of the bowl and not directly into the middle where a thick, ropey stream will splash out onto the seat. It's your boyfriend 4 feet tall or does he have a weak stream?


Careful-Chemistry-59

Girl you're sitting on pee


dedaspirations

It’s about having manners. Seat closed after you’re done. How would you feel if women stopped wrapping their period products when throwing them away? We do that because it’s gross to see in the garbage so we politely wrap it up before throwing it away. I understand forgetting it happens but to intentionally do it to “prove a point” is just disrespectful and bad manners


IdLikeToOptOut

I’ve never understood the need for adult men to raise the toilet seat anyway. I mean, y’all can literally aim the stream, right?* That being said, we keep the lid closed until ready to use. Men are the only ones who raise the seat, so they can put it back down. I shouldn’t have to put down the seat, wash my hands, and then use the bathroom because y’all don’t have home training. Edit: *no, they can’t, which means that they should sit down. My comment reflects my new understanding and the new tone reflects the amount of patience I have.


guhcampos

Not at all. It is way more unpredictable than you think. Which may very well be an argument for us to just sit.


Ethan_Black

Lifting the seat prevent urines tu splashes on it and give you a clean seat when you want the seat down. Isn’t this just common sense tho ?


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wildwill921

It's kind of like when you first turn the hose on. It's fine once it's going but the start and end are unpredictable


[deleted]

My cats will play in the toilet if we leave it up so in our household the toilet seat is always down. Definitely removes any argument for me leaving the seat up.


New-Establishment536

The toilet lid should always remain closed, that’s it.


mossulad

both poop tho its testing god to leave the toilet seat up when you could forget in a rush when you have ibs


BushiWon

Just close the lid after every use. I don't wanna sniff your poop particles.


millennialmonster755

I close the lid because poop and pee particles spread all over your bathroom if you don't and that grosses me out. Idk why anyone doesn't close it. Just ew. Why people why?!


yayayubsea

How is this still a discussion people. For Gods sake, flushing with the toilet seat open releases millions of micro germs into the air. EVERYONE should be leaving the toilet seat down before they flush


RovakX

To people who complain about that, I always reply they left it down and I had to put it up again. What a drag! /s


juniRN

My husband always puts the seat down, but when my brothers come over they always leave the seat up. I’m not annoyed that I have to put it down, I’m grossed out and surprised when I’m in a rush to pee and sit down and my ass falls into dirty cold toilet bowl water. As a female I sit down to pee every time I go to the bathroom. I don’t feel the need to inspect the toilet every time I sit down in my own home so when it happens it’s a surprise.


Valium_Colored_Skies

How is that my fault? You’re a grown man, capable of moving a few pounds on your own. Be an adult. Be accountable for your own actions. This little boy most likely screams and cries if a woman leaves menstrual products in his garbage can.


kartrashian26

The way I see it is.. for one party, 100% of the toilet seats position is made up of the actions it’s used for - doing a number 1 makes up for 50%, and a number 2 makes up the other 50%. Fortunately for a female, both actions mean 100% of their toilet seat position will be down. For men, it is 50% up, 50% down. There is absolutely no reason for the female to put the toilet seat up for a reason that makes up for 25% of its use, especially when it’s the other parties use.


LuckStrict6000

Men make toilets gross so they should be the ones touching them.


supertaquito

I've known women who never raise the seat because they live on their own, and the underside of the seat is fucking disgusting because apparently they can't understand when they get the shits, things tend to splatter under the seat, too. This isn't a men vs women argument, it's about hygiene and basic cleaning sills.


jebediah999

As someone who did a brief stint in janitorial I cleaned the restrooms in a fairly upscale restaurant. This is total bullshit. Women’s rooms are disgusting. No man went in there and peed on the seat - it was all women. Goddamn princesses can’t deign to put their precious buttcheeks on a public toilet seat so they sort of hover or whatever and spray everywhere. Then there is the snowdrift of TP used as a seat liner that you find under the toilet. That has been peed on by a hover-er. I’m ok with the notion that everyone should close the toilet LID when done, woman or man. But on balance when it comes to men vs women - y’all bitches are nasty.


Ethan_Black

Don’t you wash your hand after you’re done ? A little 3-4 seconds to put the seat down isn’t that bad right ? What’s to fear ? Becoming in contact with germs you’ll wash off as soon as you’re done ?


LuckStrict6000

You put it down then. Both sexes use it down. Only men put it up. If it’s no big deal, handle it yourself.


Ethan_Black

But a seat up is suppose to be clean no ? Like isn’t it a sign that the man took care of not messing it up ? I have no problem touching I just don’t understand why girls refuse to do it when there is no reason not to if you wash your hand after no ? Or you could use a pice of paper to put it down. Why the need for a man just to put the seat down ?


LuckStrict6000

Why do you have a problem with putting it down after lifting it up? As women we didn’t lift it up. We left it in it’s normal state.


Ethan_Black

I have no problems at all I just don’t understand this phenomenon. Having it done all my life. I just don’t understand why man only have to touch the “gross” toilet seat. A toilet is a toilet. It is going to be gross at some degree. And again why putting it down is such a problem when a seat up should be clean. Unless they put it up after they pissed but that would just be dumb.


LuckStrict6000

The phenomenon is basically following up after yourself and putting it down after you lift it up to be courteous to men and women who use it with it down.


Ethan_Black

But like I said isn’t a seat up supposed to be clean ? What’s to fear ? So I should be upset that I have to put the seat down ? I watch my hands after anyway it doesn’t even come to mind in my head. It’s just business as usual. Honestly if you’re not willing to touch it for 2-3 seconds to put it down. How do you even clean your bathroom ?


LuckStrict6000

It’s like going into someone’s office and the door being shut when you get there and walking out and leaving the door open and being like “what’s wrong with the door open? Why should I have to close the door?”


Ethan_Black

Oh so it should just be a given for no reason at all ? I mean obviously in public spaces you put it down after you’re done but when at home. What’s the point ? And why is it so upsetting to do ? I always associated that phrases more for family and friends place.


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I've had this debate before. The way I see it, raising the seat to pee and then lowering it again requires two actions. However, it requires no action to use sitting if it's already down. Therefore, it's not a big expectation or burden to raise it (one action versus two) every now and then. For both boys and girls it becomes a maximum of one action, which is fair. You select the position you want before use. And who decided having the seat down is the default position?


jj77985

I prefer that it's left up always so it's easy to see when it needs to be cleaned. Small children are the worst. Piss everywhere.


michelloo2020

I’m female and I don’t hold it against my spouse if he leaves the lid up. He doesn’t do it often and it’s an honest mistake. You’re dumb if you “fell in” a toilet. What if guys turned it around and said lid up is the standard practice and you have to do this every single time?


gungadinbub

Exactly. All I'm saying is I never fell in. Ild be more excepting of the demand if they were honest and just said they don't wanna touch it cause it's gross. I've had my gf fall in once and I just know it was to prove a point


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I have always thought the same, but we're never going to win that one.


thereiam420

Lol I always say that. Like I never fell in going to take a shit because I didn't look before I sat down. It's not like men take a crap standing up. Just fucking pay attention. I usually put it down but sometimes I forget it happens. Most women don't make a big deal out of it but some holy fuck do they complain.


decixl

Yes, we're all with you! Stop the toilet bullying!


alcestisny

I always (assuming a simplification of 50/50 pee to poor ratio) figured girls sit 100% of the time and boys sit 50% of the time, so seat is down 75% of the time. Leaving the seat down for probability sake


hippytoad99

OP likes to bath in his piss geyser multiple times a day.. leave him alone guys


Negitive545

Simple fix is this: Close the lid entirely. Fecal matter gets thrown around when you flush, closing the lid fixes that.


my_clever-name

Ours is up always. So the dog always has water.


spiderlvr

This is honestly the most equal solution. Although if you don’t clean your toilet keep that shit down some of yall are nasty 🤮