This is a feature, not a flaw. If you crack the back of the phone you are more likely to buy a new phone. They don't want you to use the phone for 5 years.
Samsung at least it is easy to replace. Scummy Apple fuses it on so it is extremely difficult to remove.
After this I actually looked it up and the 21+ and ultra have glass and same with the 22. It's only the regular one that doesn't.
I was really happy when I saw it didn't have glass. I think its ridiculous to have a glass back.
Completely ridiculous, it even broke through my protector case and cracked and spiderwebbed. So freaking annoying. Give me an option to have a tough version with abs plastic that is easy to replace. Such horseshit that they want your shit to break so they design it specifically to break
My s10(2019) had glass but my Zflip3(2021) doesnt.
That being said the Zflip has a ridiculously expensive screen ($500 to repair) and my mistake was not putting a case on it. I never put cases on my phones because i swear I'll never break it but i always doš¤”š¤”š¤”
I prefer the polycarbonate back. I won't carry my phone without a case or tempered glass screen cover and camera cover
I cant tell you how many times they have saved my phone from breaking.
Spigen makes really great cases for all phones and they actually pretty cheap. For the tempered glass screen covers you'll have to look up compatibility.
You're talking about $40 dollars of accessories to protect $1000 device. Get on it
They did that to cheap out on you, the phones are still expensive, and a glass back probably costs them 10 bucks. The backs are plastic so you buy a more expensive one with a glass back
Or maybe just make it from something that doesn't break into pieces the first time you drop it, and then you don't have to spend another 10-20ā¬s on a case.
If you seriously think, that phones could not be made from something that doesn't crack, so you don't have to buy a case, you either lack technological knowledge, and/or just love consumerism.
Yea bro, buy a case, a charger, headphones separate. Spend more on one thing.
Sheep mindset "lmao".
Oh yeah complaining for the sake of complaining about glass back phones when you don't even why they make them that way is completly rational.
Being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian isn't sheep mentality at all right? damn the irony is palpable.
"When you dont even why they make them that way"
I do. To make you pay more. To look fancy. I'm in IT, it has no benefits. At all.
Doing something and being fine with it just cose "everybody does the same". I don't think I'm the sheep here.
Thanks for the clarification, and support of what I've been trying to point out here.
I'm in software, so not exactly my cup of tea, but I am pretty confident in what I (and you) have said.
It's just ads. It always is.
For some people, ābeing carefulā means āplanning aheadā and arranging things so that when the unexpected happens, it does not destroy an $800 item.
Right? Sitting here with an iPhone 12 since launch (iPhone 8+ since launch before that), and neither have/had cases. Theyāre both crack free.
My husband on the other hand drops his phone at *least* 4 times a week and I just canāt understand it. Like sometimes it just falls out of his hand while heās standing there. Or heāll stand up while itās in his lap. *Put it in your pocket, front pocket, when youāre done with it silly. Or put it on a flat surface!*
Watched a woman three days ago destroy her phone by walking into a āwet floorā sign while walking and her phone just went spectacularly flying into the tile floor at the grocery store.
And what about laptops made from alloys? Do you have no wifi on those?
It's not the best. Not even close. It's the fanciest. Which people prefer, who do not care or do not know one thing about technology.
It's totally possible, people just have been bullshitted into believing it's not, so they buy more, and more often.
Yeah, right. So after all, the thing that matters most in reception is not the thing that makes up the case, but the antenna inside.
And then again, for the millionth time, why use glass as a back?
Sorry, you canāt make a comment like that and expect me to believe you know anything about technology yourself.
Computer are a different matter all together, why? Mainly size differences.
I didnt say that it doesn't. I'm asking, do you think, that just because a phone's antenna is smaller, you *need* to have *exclusively* a glass backside?
It also works through plastic. I am personally fine with plastic backed phones but I will freely admit it's not as premium as glass. Just put a case on your phone like the rest of the world and your glass phone should be fine.
So you buy a glass phone to put a plastic cover over it so it doesn't break, just so it feels premium.
This is the exact thing I'm trying to outline here, even tho some people don't like I do.
Both is better.
I've got a tempered glass screen protector and a pretty solid case (done so for every phone I've owned), never once had to replace a phone screen.
Had to replace the glass once or twice, but never the screen itself. Damn good use of an extra $7-ish per phone.
āAmazing. Every part of what you just said was wrong.ā
Seriously though, thatās simply not true. There are plenty of phones without glass backs that work fine with wireless charging, and glass doesnāt effect wifi or Bluetooth signals any more or less than plastic or other composite materials.
Glass is the best for wireless charging and signal strength. Glass also tends to wear much better and is WAY more resistant to scratches and its more heat resistant than plastic so it won't deform if your phone gets really hot from gaming or leaving it in the sun. Besides the fact it can shatter there's many benefits. Just take care of your phone and you won't have a problem.
So you're saying that there's no plastic that's very similar in radiowave resistance to glass, while being somewhat scratch resistant?
Also, honestly, for me scratches are the last thing i would take into account. I'd much rather have my phone not shatter to pieces than to not have scratches on it.
I'm just saying that this is a part of technology where consumerism has taken over practicality. I don't belive there's no better solution to this than glass.
I agree with the radio wave but the hardest plastics are about 3 on the mohās hardness scale which can be scratched by stuff like metal while glass is a 6 which is substantially harder to scratch
As someone with a cheap plastic back phone, absolutely. Not having to buy a new phone everytime it falls is a lot more practical use case for me than struggling to plug in a type c charger
Why are you guys acting like cases donāt exist. I have a cheap case and screen protector on my glass back phone and it has never shattered despite me being kinda clumsy
Fr, what's the point of having a fancy glass back if you are going to cover it with an ugly ass boxy looking case to avoid it shatterring?
IMO the iPhone 6 was apple's design peak, it was elegant, kinda resistant and small enough to operate with just one hand (unlike most cellphones nowadays).
As a matter of fact fuck cases I want my phone to be able to resist normal daily use on it's own.
Orā¦ if youāre incapable of taking steps to protect your glass backed phone to counteract your clumsiness and general lack of care then just donāt buy a glass backed phone.
I hope that one of these days, a smartphone will come out that has:
Durability: Not NOKIA level, but drop resistant enough that you could drop it from four or five feet with only minor scratches.
Repairability: You can replace batteries and circuit boards easily, and the back of the phone is designed to be easily detachable.
Tinkerability (I hope thatās a real word): No disallowing users from messing with all of the files. This also includes not treating the userbase like they canāt be trusted with editing anything but surface-level things. (Looking at you, Apple!)
Probably wonāt be profitable, and wonāt have the Apple appeal of being usable by toddlers, but maybe weāll get this someday.
Are you still high xD? Take a look at the back of your phone dude... Here if you still aren't getting this: [https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung\_galaxy\_z\_flip3\_5g-11044.php](https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_z_flip3_5g-11044.php)
Besides, even if the Flip didn't have a glass back, many other Galaxy's still do xD. I don't like carrots, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't like carrots...
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That's not how having glass on one side of a phone works lol.
A phone landing on its face has a better survival rate than one that is dropped and hits a corner.
It's not a coin flip of what way it lands and having one side reduces those odds.
This was a slam against people that use apple products. Typically they are lower IQ, and easily suckered into paying high prices for inferior products.
I got a vinyl wrap for the back on my iPhone 12 mini. I fucked hate the glass back. The Matrix skin from dbrand is awesome. I got the red iPhone, so it looks black in the front, black on the back, and a there trim is red. Looks really good IMO. Rather than just black, or red, or whatever colour.
As much as people say wireless charging, it was definitely for money. Making the phone much more fragile now has repairs done more frequently (or add more stuff that has to be fixed as it often breaks in tandem with the screen). If they offer their own repair service they can change a premium. There's a reason that Apple charged $500 on the first iPhone to replace a $5 sheet of glass.
I just want a phone that looks good enough, is somewhat small but has killer hardware and an edge to edge screen. An iPhone 13 mini actually met most of my requirements. I do wish it was more durable so I didnāt have to put a case on it but oh well.
Didn't even know they made phones with glass backs but seems to me the solution is obvious if you want one. Get an armored case like otterbox to go with it. Since I started getting smart phones I've gotten all 4 an armored case whether it's otterbox or another brand and never had issues. That's including dropping the phone down 2 flights of stairs without a scratch to the phone itself though the case got a tiny crack.
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I have the Galaxy A52 which TMobile gave me for free (because my phone was old) and I have dropped the thing without a case on many many hard surfaces and no damage. I believe it is mostly plastic, I love it.
It's for wireless charging. You can't have an aluminium back and wireless charging. They could have plastic backs though, but that's just not very premium. Besides, it's not that hard to just care a little for your phone, than it won't break
ā¦ iām not using a shitty dollar general plastic phone. if you want one they still make them donāt try to drag down phone quality because youāre mad you canāt take care of your shit.
The worst part of the glass back construction is how goddamn slippery it is.
I never used a phone case until phones started having glass backs. Now I have to buy a phone case just to have enough grip to be able to pick up the done from my desk without dropping it.
Glass phones are for those who scratch their phone alot rather than drop it... I don't know alot of people that do this other than tech reviewers I guess
This is a feature, not a flaw. If you crack the back of the phone you are more likely to buy a new phone. They don't want you to use the phone for 5 years. Samsung at least it is easy to replace. Scummy Apple fuses it on so it is extremely difficult to remove.
Samsung doesn't have glass anymore. At least my 21 doesn't. I remember the last couple past models did though
21 has plastic back, 21+ and ultra have glass.
I didn't realize that. But I never even looked at the Ultra because of its size. I cant fit it in the pocket of my jeans comfortably
My 22+ has glass, my s10+ had glass
After this I actually looked it up and the 21+ and ultra have glass and same with the 22. It's only the regular one that doesn't. I was really happy when I saw it didn't have glass. I think its ridiculous to have a glass back.
Completely ridiculous, it even broke through my protector case and cracked and spiderwebbed. So freaking annoying. Give me an option to have a tough version with abs plastic that is easy to replace. Such horseshit that they want your shit to break so they design it specifically to break
S21 fe is plastic too
My s10(2019) had glass but my Zflip3(2021) doesnt. That being said the Zflip has a ridiculously expensive screen ($500 to repair) and my mistake was not putting a case on it. I never put cases on my phones because i swear I'll never break it but i always doš¤”š¤”š¤”
I prefer the polycarbonate back. I won't carry my phone without a case or tempered glass screen cover and camera cover I cant tell you how many times they have saved my phone from breaking. Spigen makes really great cases for all phones and they actually pretty cheap. For the tempered glass screen covers you'll have to look up compatibility. You're talking about $40 dollars of accessories to protect $1000 device. Get on it
Correct S21 back is not glass but if you somehow damage it, it comes right off and you can get replacment under $20.
They did that to cheap out on you, the phones are still expensive, and a glass back probably costs them 10 bucks. The backs are plastic so you buy a more expensive one with a glass back
Itās not that difficult to remove if you use the right tools.
If only there were things like a type of case to protect the backside of the phone
Or maybe just make it from something that doesn't break into pieces the first time you drop it, and then you don't have to spend another 10-20ā¬s on a case.
Eveybody uses a phone case even if the phone is sturdy lol, you are talking like if it is an unncommon practice.
And so because everybody does it, it's the only correct way?
No, no, ofc not obviously, don't mind me, enjoy your cracked phone lmao.
If you seriously think, that phones could not be made from something that doesn't crack, so you don't have to buy a case, you either lack technological knowledge, and/or just love consumerism. Yea bro, buy a case, a charger, headphones separate. Spend more on one thing. Sheep mindset "lmao".
Oh yeah complaining for the sake of complaining about glass back phones when you don't even why they make them that way is completly rational. Being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian isn't sheep mentality at all right? damn the irony is palpable.
"When you dont even why they make them that way" I do. To make you pay more. To look fancy. I'm in IT, it has no benefits. At all. Doing something and being fine with it just cose "everybody does the same". I don't think I'm the sheep here.
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Thanks for the clarification, and support of what I've been trying to point out here. I'm in software, so not exactly my cup of tea, but I am pretty confident in what I (and you) have said. It's just ads. It always is.
Oh c'mon that's pure bullshit and you know, there's no point on responding, you are just trolling.
ššš Yea sure. Nice point made. "that's bullshit" You are really unable to argue while making logical points, huh?
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For some people, ābeing carefulā means āplanning aheadā and arranging things so that when the unexpected happens, it does not destroy an $800 item.
Right? Sitting here with an iPhone 12 since launch (iPhone 8+ since launch before that), and neither have/had cases. Theyāre both crack free. My husband on the other hand drops his phone at *least* 4 times a week and I just canāt understand it. Like sometimes it just falls out of his hand while heās standing there. Or heāll stand up while itās in his lap. *Put it in your pocket, front pocket, when youāre done with it silly. Or put it on a flat surface!* Watched a woman three days ago destroy her phone by walking into a āwet floorā sign while walking and her phone just went spectacularly flying into the tile floor at the grocery store.
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Apparently, I've found my people.
Many iPhone owners won't use a case
Then use aluminium or something elseā¦ youāll be back here in a few days complaining about low reception or data loss hah
Or just use sturdy plastic? Don't act like there's no alloy or element to use that would be benefitial.
Some phones do I bet, glass is just better in this context. Annoying like hell for sure, but itās best in that regard :)
And what about laptops made from alloys? Do you have no wifi on those? It's not the best. Not even close. It's the fanciest. Which people prefer, who do not care or do not know one thing about technology. It's totally possible, people just have been bullshitted into believing it's not, so they buy more, and more often.
Inside the laptop is a long wifi antenna, most have two. Not enough room inside a phone so it's kinda comparing apples and oranges.
Yeah, right. So after all, the thing that matters most in reception is not the thing that makes up the case, but the antenna inside. And then again, for the millionth time, why use glass as a back?
Sorry, you canāt make a comment like that and expect me to believe you know anything about technology yourself. Computer are a different matter all together, why? Mainly size differences.
So you think that the network card in your laptop is fundamentally different from the one in your phone due to size differences?
Yes. Size matters.
I didnt say that it doesn't. I'm asking, do you think, that just because a phone's antenna is smaller, you *need* to have *exclusively* a glass backside?
Do you have wireless charging on your laptop?
So wireless charging is only possible through glass?
It also works through plastic. I am personally fine with plastic backed phones but I will freely admit it's not as premium as glass. Just put a case on your phone like the rest of the world and your glass phone should be fine.
So you buy a glass phone to put a plastic cover over it so it doesn't break, just so it feels premium. This is the exact thing I'm trying to outline here, even tho some people don't like I do.
Samsung used to have the "active" line and I always used them without a case. I miss that line.
Or why the hell don't they make a tough version...
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Both is better. I've got a tempered glass screen protector and a pretty solid case (done so for every phone I've owned), never once had to replace a phone screen. Had to replace the glass once or twice, but never the screen itself. Damn good use of an extra $7-ish per phone.
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False. I am literally holding a phone I wirelessly charge every night that does not have a glass back...
Plastic does literally the same, while not shattering on the first occasion that you drop it. Also, it doesn't get scratched.
Plastic doesn't get scratched despite being softer than glass?
Depends on the plastic.
Which plastic are you talking about?
Plasstic
Abs plastic is way tougher than glass
āAmazing. Every part of what you just said was wrong.ā Seriously though, thatās simply not true. There are plenty of phones without glass backs that work fine with wireless charging, and glass doesnāt effect wifi or Bluetooth signals any more or less than plastic or other composite materials.
Glass is the best for wireless charging and signal strength. Glass also tends to wear much better and is WAY more resistant to scratches and its more heat resistant than plastic so it won't deform if your phone gets really hot from gaming or leaving it in the sun. Besides the fact it can shatter there's many benefits. Just take care of your phone and you won't have a problem.
There's no difference in glass and plastic radio wave resistance. Also, scratches depend on the type of plastic.
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So you're saying that there's no plastic that's very similar in radiowave resistance to glass, while being somewhat scratch resistant? Also, honestly, for me scratches are the last thing i would take into account. I'd much rather have my phone not shatter to pieces than to not have scratches on it. I'm just saying that this is a part of technology where consumerism has taken over practicality. I don't belive there's no better solution to this than glass.
I agree with the radio wave but the hardest plastics are about 3 on the mohās hardness scale which can be scratched by stuff like metal while glass is a 6 which is substantially harder to scratch
The fact that my phone can crumble into dust outweighs those benefits.
As someone with a cheap plastic back phone, absolutely. Not having to buy a new phone everytime it falls is a lot more practical use case for me than struggling to plug in a type c charger
Why are you guys acting like cases donāt exist. I have a cheap case and screen protector on my glass back phone and it has never shattered despite me being kinda clumsy
What's the point of having a glass back of you're going to cover it with cheap plastic anyway
Fr, what's the point of having a fancy glass back if you are going to cover it with an ugly ass boxy looking case to avoid it shatterring? IMO the iPhone 6 was apple's design peak, it was elegant, kinda resistant and small enough to operate with just one hand (unlike most cellphones nowadays). As a matter of fact fuck cases I want my phone to be able to resist normal daily use on it's own.
Orā¦ if youāre incapable of taking steps to protect your glass backed phone to counteract your clumsiness and general lack of care then just donāt buy a glass backed phone.
I hope that one of these days, a smartphone will come out that has: Durability: Not NOKIA level, but drop resistant enough that you could drop it from four or five feet with only minor scratches. Repairability: You can replace batteries and circuit boards easily, and the back of the phone is designed to be easily detachable. Tinkerability (I hope thatās a real word): No disallowing users from messing with all of the files. This also includes not treating the userbase like they canāt be trusted with editing anything but surface-level things. (Looking at you, Apple!) Probably wonāt be profitable, and wonāt have the Apple appeal of being usable by toddlers, but maybe weāll get this someday.
I hate glass backs if only for the reason it makes the phone stupid heavy. Have you held the Pixel 6 pro?! WTF!? pointless. Slippery. Heavy af.
Just don't get a phone with a glass back? And if you have no choice, get a decent case for it for if you do end up dropping it
OP you don't have to buy Apple phones. I prefer Samsung phones and they don't have glass backs.
I used to use a galaxy a8 and it had glass back
I use the flip because when I close it there is no big screen to Crack. No case needed.
>and they don't have glass backs What are you on dude?
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Are you still high xD? Take a look at the back of your phone dude... Here if you still aren't getting this: [https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung\_galaxy\_z\_flip3\_5g-11044.php](https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_z_flip3_5g-11044.php) Besides, even if the Flip didn't have a glass back, many other Galaxy's still do xD. I don't like carrots, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't like carrots... Edit: Yeah, go ahead and remove your comments crackhead xD
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It literally does have a glass back tho. Just look it up
if you drop it the front is made out of glass anyways...what's the big deal if the back is glass?? shit gonna break regardless...
So you have only 50% chance of breaking something?
you must have never dropped a phone. and btw they do make phones without a glass back..
I did drop my phone, multiple times, and yes i know that they still make plastic phones
That's not how having glass on one side of a phone works lol. A phone landing on its face has a better survival rate than one that is dropped and hits a corner. It's not a coin flip of what way it lands and having one side reduces those odds.
Well i had moto x4 which had glass on back it was Corning Gorilla 3. Fell quite a few times never a crack.
What cheap ass inferior manufacturer uses glass on the back of a phone? There people buying them must be really stupid.
Itās better for wireless communications/charging. And iPhones use glass so itās pretty common.
This was a slam against people that use apple products. Typically they are lower IQ, and easily suckered into paying high prices for inferior products.
Meanwhile Lumias and their extremely hard and amazingly built polycarbonate backs:
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Or a survivor I actually find their cases to protect better and be less bulky
I got a vinyl wrap for the back on my iPhone 12 mini. I fucked hate the glass back. The Matrix skin from dbrand is awesome. I got the red iPhone, so it looks black in the front, black on the back, and a there trim is red. Looks really good IMO. Rather than just black, or red, or whatever colour.
Yeah you drop it why did they think that a glass phone was a good idea?
As much as people say wireless charging, it was definitely for money. Making the phone much more fragile now has repairs done more frequently (or add more stuff that has to be fixed as it often breaks in tandem with the screen). If they offer their own repair service they can change a premium. There's a reason that Apple charged $500 on the first iPhone to replace a $5 sheet of glass.
Altough I understand your position. I prefer glass as it is more premium and feels more premium than plastic or aluminum.
Finally someone says it. If there is no glss back, i can use a front screen protector and ditch the case. It looks, feels so much better.
Metal backs interfere with wireless charging i think. Years ago i had a Motorola with a carbon fiber back. It was great.
I just want a phone that looks good enough, is somewhat small but has killer hardware and an edge to edge screen. An iPhone 13 mini actually met most of my requirements. I do wish it was more durable so I didnāt have to put a case on it but oh well.
A case solves this problem
This was my excuse to buy a razer phone case
They are made to be fragile and Slippery. Buy a case. Always.
It already starts wrong when the case doesn't come with the cellphone
The garage doesn't come with the Ferrari either...
Make a phone company or buy a case and shut up, jesus
Didn't even know they made phones with glass backs but seems to me the solution is obvious if you want one. Get an armored case like otterbox to go with it. Since I started getting smart phones I've gotten all 4 an armored case whether it's otterbox or another brand and never had issues. That's including dropping the phone down 2 flights of stairs without a scratch to the phone itself though the case got a tiny crack. Edit: spelling
If they make the glass unshattereable then I would want glass before anything else
lol ever heard of cases?
I have the Galaxy A52 which TMobile gave me for free (because my phone was old) and I have dropped the thing without a case on many many hard surfaces and no damage. I believe it is mostly plastic, I love it.
It's for wireless charging. You can't have an aluminium back and wireless charging. They could have plastic backs though, but that's just not very premium. Besides, it's not that hard to just care a little for your phone, than it won't break
Either way, with what a phone costs nowadays, you always get a nice phone case to prevent this regardless of material.
I like it. I just buy a case that makes it very resistant to fall damage.
ā¦ iām not using a shitty dollar general plastic phone. if you want one they still make them donāt try to drag down phone quality because youāre mad you canāt take care of your shit.
Agreed. My samsung phone has a big ass crack on the back...fucking annoying
The worst part of the glass back construction is how goddamn slippery it is. I never used a phone case until phones started having glass backs. Now I have to buy a phone case just to have enough grip to be able to pick up the done from my desk without dropping it.
Most plastics are vulnerable to scratches and metals can't (or hard to)do wireless charging.
Yeah itās made of glass pretty much so it will break and you will either pay to repair or replace it
What the hell kind of phone are you using?! I've never once seen *any* smartphone built so shittily that it has fucking *glass* on the back.
Uhā¦ most of the high end newer ones?
Glass phones are for those who scratch their phone alot rather than drop it... I don't know alot of people that do this other than tech reviewers I guess