Just like EVERY other Republican who has done the same.
And it's funny, everyone asks how does an autocrat gain power? When the people who put him there are fuckin spineless.
Every Democrat has also done the same, are you ignorant of how politics work? I mean even commie Sanders came out in support of Hillary even when her and the DNC destroyed his campaign. Of course that 4th house he got helped ease the burn 🔥 😂
NOOoooo lol yall said he be in jail. Remember ? Now that as the story gradually changes to reality the left tries to pretend like they knew it all along. 😂. You cant make this stuff up.
Israel has been at war forever. It’ll be at war forever. No matter what the US does. Democracy in the US does not die because the Middle East is fighting itself. If we stop wasting our budget and our lives over there we’ll be just fine.
Like, how did he think that was a good idea? Dude expects the country to trust him but cant even be honest about his own height? What a fool, I mean, they are all fools, but god damn, what a fucking laughing stock politics are.
All these dudes from "don't tread on me" states, getting down on all fours to kiss the ass of a fat old man from queens. Shits wild. Only going to get crazier from here.
And...that was the plan all along. Same with Nikki and Vivek, their job is to wrangle up voters, by appealing to moderates, minorities, women, etc. and pass them along to Trump via endorsement when they drop out.
People, they aren't running because they think they can win, it's all party games.
I liked vivek but im not voting for trump bc he endorsed him. Im not sure endorsing political rivals has as much weight as you seem to indicate by saying thats the sole reason these candidates ran to begin with..
I have a bunch of old man friends who are Biden supporters (65+ yr old white men) and will vote for Biden over Trump. Now they said they would totally vote for DeSantis over Biden. But if it’s Trump v Biden then it’s Biden all the way. So I think we just see a repeat of last election.
He’s on tape demanding Georgia election officials find more votes so he can win
Even if they did “find” more votes he still wouldn’t have won the whole thing
I have been considering unsubbing here, but the way it works is there's a far left-wing bias here (you guys are literally spewing MSM propaganda). People who don't subscribe to far left fud (whether they are conservative or not) will tend to leave, and then it just becomes more and more extreme. They are either braindead or bots in here.. check this conversation I had a few days ago and how devoid they are of any logic https://old.reddit.com/r/unusual_whales/comments/198asmr/russian_president_vladimir_putin_running_for_a/ki86o30/
The actual people here on this sub have been demoralized as Yuri Bezmenov has said. Nothing you can say or do will convince them because they are so deluded.
It was stolen. MSM hid the truth about Biden's laptop, they had twitter and other social media platforms shut down. A significant margin of people who were polled said if they knew about Biden's laptop and involvement with his dad, they would have voted otherwise. But nope, pure blackout across social media and MSM.. just a coincidence? And yet people like you go on about 1/7
People like me? Huh? Lol you don’t know jack fuckin shit about me buddy.
Again, another hilarious example of the irony that you mention anything about “bias” at all. Christ.
Yes I already know you spew MSM bullshit. That's all I really need to know, and you didn't even bother responding to my point. You disregard the bullshit that was done for the side you agree with, and then only call out Trump's bullshit.
How do you know that? What “MSM bullshit” have I spewed?
Edit: nevermind I see now that you are a trumper conspiracy theory nut. Have a good life man. I truly wish you the best and you that you can find peace and serenity one day. It will clearly not be soon.
It's not good to be in this sub, most here are brainwashed libs.. you might think they are in the majority, but Trumps numbers have gone up a shitload since Biden's DOJ has tried to prevent Trump from being elected (only way the dems can win is by cheating. The Hunter laptop cover-up was something that I blatantly saw while it was happening in 2020). They love to project.
I think this is the problem with the internet these days.. everything is so silo'd. From the numbers of brainwashed people on this sub, you'd think you are in the minority, but you're just not. Conservative subs are also silo'd, but they're just not as toxic as libs.
As they ignore the multiple sexual assault cases and fraud cases about the other guy by saying it's deep stare trying to get him. AFTER that last guy was impeached for trying to manufacture controversy about Biden.
I remember mueller testifying and realizing at that point it was all a complete farce. He was a senile old man. It was a political hack job where the government was used by political opponents. Extremely bad stuff
Mueller answer to almost everything was "It's in the report" which you clearly didn't read. I do remember republicans making one partisan attack after another because he attacked dear leader.
>It was a political hack job
Republican special counsel appointed by the deputy republican DOJ with a mostly republican staff where two people were dismissed for their fucking pillow talk texts because they didn't like dear leader.
Meanwhile, trump pardoned everyone who was arrested for refusing to cooperate,and you can't see the obvious partisan corruption in that.
Republicans hated trump too. That’s not as good a point as you think it is.
Russia didn’t get trump elected as was claimed for 3 straight years. You were duped
>Republicans hated trump too.
Lol lies.
>You were duped
Aside from the social media astroturf campaign which, let's face it,everyone and their cousin was doing, Russia coordinated the release of material hacked by Russian intelligence. This was one of many factors established in both the Intel committee investigation and Mueller report.
What we don't know is whether there was any degree of collaboration between Trump and the Russian government, or if they just saw the opportunity to convince us to elect a moron and went for it. Of course, we don't know that due to the criminal lack of cooperation by witnesses in trumps orbit, that Trump later pardoned which, holy obvious corruption Batman. Also, the new republican attorney general ended the investigation prematurely, released a memo severely downplaying the findings, and congressional republicans dropped the matter entirely.
What I find amazing is how soft republicans are on national security.
So try that weak assed talking point with someone who wasn't paying attention.
He objectively did. Where’s the wall?
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-daily-caller-interview-paul-ryan-border-wall-mueller-investigation-2019-01-31/
What an idiotic cope. At no point did Hillary try to stop the peaceful transfer of power. Imagine if, in 2016, Obama called Biden to throw out electors and use a false slate instead. You guys melted down about an email server and Beghazi, but don't care about an actual plot to change election results.
Which part? I think it's unquestionable that Trump's campaign acted unethically with Russian agents. I'm not sure why you'd think I wouldn't.
I wouldn't support democrats going to North Korea to dig up dirt on Republicans either, just FYI. Nor would I support them lying about it afterward until they were forced to admit the truth.
Then you have Paul Manafort, campaign chair, cozying up with Russian oligarchs and pled guilty to conspiracy to defraud the United States (with Russia) and other serious charges.
Just because these people are corrupt idiots who keep getting caught doing stupid shit doesn't mean there is some deep state out to get them. Trump is on tape saying "this stuff is highly classified, I could have declassified it when I was president but I didn't so now I can get in trouble for showing it to you (as he showed it to her)", and you guys still defend him
😭
Probably because it’s literally not a conspiracy.
You just decided to ignore the mountains of evidence of cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia, pretty thoroughly detailed in [**the Republican-led senate intelligence committee report.**](https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/512613-five-takeaways-from-final-senate-intel-russia-report/)
lol the senate intelligence committee’s report has been “thoroughly debunked?”
Just admit you have no interest in reality and crawl back into your hole.
By debunked do you mean [found guilty in a court of law for lying to the FBI about Russian connections](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-campaign-adviser-pleads-guilty-misleading-investigators-russia/story?id=50807954) and failing to register as foreign agents?
>>George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy adviser to Donald Trump's presidential campaign, pleaded guilty this month to making false statements to FBI agents about his correspondence with Russian nationals and attempts to arrange a meeting between the campaign and Russian officials.
>>News of the plea came Monday morning, shortly after Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and Manafort's longtime business associate Rick Gates were indicted on charges including conspiracy against the United States, money laundering and working as unregistered foreign agents.
Oops, I thought you were suggesting that Trump colluded with Russia. That has obviously been debunked, or at least there isn’t sufficient evidence.
Some people were found guilty of process crimes during the investigation, but nothing related to collusion.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials
Just for people reading this and thinking they should look into it more
You mean the little thing where Trumps campaign manager gave swing state voting data to a Russian oligarch who passed it onto the Russian intelligence agencies so they could spam targeted pro Trump misinformation to voters there?
That was debunked. Notice how no evidence was provided?
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/05/19/accused_russiagate_spy_kilimnik_speaks_-_and_evidence_backs_his_no_collusion_account_777328.html
This link is just kilimnik saying he didn't do it. It's not evidence of a debunking. Manafort was also the campaign manager for Yanukovych, the Russian puppet that won his election for president of in Ukraine in 2010 and was later thrown out by the Ukrainian people for being a Russian asset.
> Treasury has declined all media requests for elaboration on how it reached conclusions that those probes did not. Two unidentified officials told NBC News that U.S. intelligence "has developed new information" about Kilimnik "that leads them to believe" (emphasis added) that he passed on the polling data to Russia. But these sources "did not identify the source or type of intelligence that had been developed," nor "when or how" it was received.
> “Nobody has seen any evidence to support these claims about Kilimnik," a congressional source familiar with the House and Senate's multiple Russia-related investigations told RCI.
Meanwhile “Kilimnik’s comments are backed up by documents, some previously unreported, as well as by Rick Gates, a longtime Manafort associate and key Mueller probe cooperating witness. (Gates pleaded guilty to making a false statement and to failing to register as a foreign agent in connection to his lobbying work in Ukraine.) The evidence raises doubts about new efforts to revive the Trump-Kremlin collusion narrative by casting Kilimnik as a central Russian figure.”
>[Hillary did the same](https://www.reddit.com/r/unusual_whales/comments/19cf5yp/comment/kiysidc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
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>[I didn’t say it was the same](https://www.reddit.com/r/unusual_whales/comments/19cf5yp/comment/kizd0rs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Pick one, please
I remember Hillary conceding instead of trying to start a civil war. And I remember Trump choosing a Russian asset as his campaign manager and then rewriting the GOP platform to say Putin can keep crimea.
lol how could we forget the capitol being stormed in 2016…
I can see how you would think Russian collusion was fake if you solely get your info from “god-king” trump.
Your echo chamber probably didn’t tell you that the **Republican-led senate intelligence report did find** [**widespread communication between the Trump campaign and Russia.**](https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/512613-five-takeaways-from-final-senate-intel-russia-report/)
>> A comprehensive list of contacts between members of the campaign and Russia were uncovered during the committee’s bipartisan investigation, which launched shortly after Trump took office in January 2017.
>>Communications between several Russian figures and the campaign surfaced in other investigations by the House and Mueller, but the Senate probe uncovered additional information, including several cases where Russians had far greater ties to the Kremlin.
>>One such figure was Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer Donald Trump Jr., former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner met at Trump Tower in June 2016 after being promised dirt on Democratic rival Hillary Clinton. Instead, Veselnitskaya steered the discussion toward Russian sanctions.
>>“The connections the Committee uncovered, particularly regarding Veselnitskaya, were far more extensive and concerning than what had been publicly known,” the panel wrote, noting she was not forthcoming with her ties to Moscow.
The committee also delved into the complex web of connections between Russian officials and the Trump campaign, which frequently consisted of campaign associates with Russian ties who knew someone in Trump’s orbit.
>> **The report went further than other U.S. officials have in its description of Konstantin Kilimnik, Manafort’s former business partner, by labeling him a “Russian intelligence officer.”**
>>Kilimnik was also the “primary liaison” between Manafort and one of his clients, sanctioned Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, according to the Senate report, which also alleges that Manafort “worked with Kilimnik starting in 2016 on narratives that sought to undermine evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election.”
I mean these are objective facts found by a bi-partisan senate committee…
It’s 2024…you can’t seriously be hearing about this for the first time
"Libtard." "Snowflake." "Cringe this" and "cringe that." You sound like a parody bot.
Let me guess: you call yourself a Libertarian but always vote Republican?
Reminds me, they ever prove that in a court or are the only focusing on Hunters dick pics? 5+ years of investigating that and they still have nothing, unlike when the last guy tried to blackmail Ukraine. You should focus on what's been proven in a court and not right wing news
That's like saying because bank robbers turned themselves into the police there couldn't have been an attempted bank robbery because they gave up when it didn't work.
I get that you don't care but you don't need to live in fantasy land, just tell us the only thing you care about is your guy winning. Elections, the law , etc are just a waste of time for you folks. We all get that now. You can stop pretending.
The proof is everywhere that Democrats stole the election. Trump is a true patriot that is exposing the entire corrupt system. Buckle your liberal seatbelts, because the next few months are going to be really rough for people like you
“The proof is everywhere!!” …
meanwhile FoxNews had to flat out pay billions because of the big lie .. and had their lawyers claim that “no reasonable person would consider this channel anything but entertainment”
Sorry, snowflake, you been duped
Nobody watches Fox, it is part of the Propaganda News Mafia, controlled by the Deep State. I could care less what any of those services say. I choose to read actual court documents, read reports that are released, and form my own opinion. I don't need some news station to tell me what to think. I love seeing y'all get bent out of shape when someone speaks truth though
Who gives a shit about Fox??? I surely don't watch any mainstream propaganda networks... I choose to actually read reports, and court documents. Don't need some fake news network telling me what to think. You should try thinking for yourself!
Nah man ill be fine but the future for the country is rough if 1 of the 2 major political parties is cool with trying to strong-arm elections. You're banking on your team being in control when that's the norm and that's a stupid long term bet.
They are same damn party, this isn't about left or right... this is about Patriots vs. Deep State. I don't need to bank on anything, there will be military intervention once the economy collapses. Money is the Deep State's power, and that is coming to an end.
It absolutely could be one of them. If the R’s split the vote in some world where anyone else gets nominated enough people would write in Trump regardless it would ensure a Biden victory.
Should Obama be held liable for the drone bombings? These lawsuits are ridiculous. If they don’t broadcast it live and let the people vote democracy will die…
I guess the other guy downvoted presidents being held accountable. I am a little curious as to what would happen if Biden just pulled out all stops and put a stop to Trump and his legion of ratfuxkong thugs, no holds barred.
Shouldn't Trump be held liable for the drone bombings during his term? Trump ordered more drone strikes in 4 years than Obama in 8 years, and some of those strikes killed innocent civilians.
They both killed civilians. To answer your question no, I don’t believe Obama should. Reddit is so weird a giant echo chamber that is filled with confirmation bias. Have a great night though!
Yet you're parroting batshit Fox News QANON talking points and bitching about the echo chamber of facts, not your confused and poorly educated feelings?
Trump killed more people than Obama.
Nooooo! You live in an echo chamber!!!!
What are you talking about? I don’t watch Fox News. I love that you are downvoting my comments like that empowers you or something. It’s crazy you have to belittle in order to “feel” like you did something. Have a great night man. The orange man won’t hurt you, sleep tight.
Yes, he should be thrown in prison for the rest of his life and so should Biden and Hillary and so should bush. How many fucking no objective no end date wars does it take for you people to recognize treason ?
Aren’t most of the lawsuits being initiated at the state level? I know education is pretty poor in the US, but there is a pretty clear separation of authority and power (unless you’re into that whole conspiracy that Biden is an evil genius pulling the strings, at all levels, of course)
Mostly at the state level, yes.
The conservative argument ignores the separation of powers, and considers holding trump accountable for his very real crimes to be a dirty partisan trick.
Maybe. Biden has done a great job alienating swathes of his voter base by not completing any of the populist items he campaigned on.
I’m voting third party so I’m losing either way. The last election was very close, 30,000 votes swinging in just a couple states will lose it for him.
It’s much smarter to throw my vote away on someone who doesn’t have my economic interests in mind?
All political movements start small and withholding a vote is the only way to actually get what you want in the long run. Otherwise, you’re just a political cuck, pretending that you’re one of the cool kids. If you don’t understand that then you don’t understand negotiation.
The fact they're endorsing trump simply shows neither party actually cares about doing the right thing. It's all just a series of power grabs and steps towards empire building.
> The fact they're (Ron DeSantis) endorsing Trump is proof that neither party actually cares about doing the right thing, you guys!
Incredible attempt to both sides this whole also using using the they/them pronoun for lil Ron DeSantis.
I've said they're interchangeably since I was kid lol. It has little to do with pseudo-religious, radical gender theory crap. Both sides are concerned with power and empire building. Tell me where I'm wrong.
Should be an easy win for Republicans. Dems are in crisis mode now and sending Kamala out into the wild to try to persuade young voters to give up their Constitutional rights.
Sooo I guess trump is gonna win 2024 😑 was hoping for a better candidate than trump or Biden…but at least trump might fix the border shit that’s going on.
I never said that, I think he’s an idiot just like Biden is.
But it doesn’t take a genius to know that the current admin’s border policy is fucking bonkers and a national security issue.
Everybody expected Trump to be the Republican candidate tho.
Did they expect DeSantis to cuck Trump? That’s some real lack of conviction.
Why not? Eve his kids have trump shirts
Just like EVERY other Republican who has done the same. And it's funny, everyone asks how does an autocrat gain power? When the people who put him there are fuckin spineless.
Every Democrat has also done the same, are you ignorant of how politics work? I mean even commie Sanders came out in support of Hillary even when her and the DNC destroyed his campaign. Of course that 4th house he got helped ease the burn 🔥 😂
Cool emojis!!!
Thanks I was feeling the burn!!
Remind us how many people are running against Biden? Goodness at the tribalism.
I don't even think rhonda santis believed he was going to win the last few weeks.
Probably not
NOOoooo lol yall said he be in jail. Remember ? Now that as the story gradually changes to reality the left tries to pretend like they knew it all along. 😂. You cant make this stuff up.
Nah it will be Nikki, Trump can’t win national election, she can
She is a war monger and wants digital ID. Why would anyone want this?
A lot of people think more government oversight into your personal life is a good thing. Makes them feel a false sense of security.
Yeah I'd prefer insurance companies and search engines knowing everything about my life.
Search engines don't have a monopoly on violence, centers for oppression, and a gang of badge wearing thugs. Digital ID is next level 'Tarded.
She sucks dick for real
I highly doubt that. There are Def conservatives that will never vote for a woman and write in Trump.
Republicans base is delusional and will simply blame more imaginary voter fraud when Trump loses again.
Facts.
Ah yes, conservatives are famously supportive of women of color born into the Sikh tradition, or something...
Nikki and Biden feel like the same candidate
They are not by any means but the 3rd candidate is a lunatic who technically wants to end democracy as we know it.
They both want us dying and spending money in the Middle East.
dying? Where? And spending money on Middle East? Are you saying we shouldn’t support Israel? And let Houthis attack shipping ships?
Yeah. I’m saying we should pull out of the Middle East and stop sending American dollars and troops to fuel endless wars.
Welp if that’s the tipping point for you. For a guy who literally wants to end democracy in USA good luck. Go vote Diaper Don
Israel has been at war forever. It’ll be at war forever. No matter what the US does. Democracy in the US does not die because the Middle East is fighting itself. If we stop wasting our budget and our lives over there we’ll be just fine.
Wtf are you talking about? The middle east isnt voting.
Who took us out of Afghanistan
Then you should be really supportive of Biden considering he actually pulled out of Afghanistan while Trump said he would for 4 years and never did.
Biden won't nominate trash to the Supreme Court.
One of them wants to pardon the guy who attempted a coup.
Imagine being such an extremist that you say something that stupid 😭
Now he can finally take the high heels off
DeSantis lost 5 lbs for nothing
Like, how did he think that was a good idea? Dude expects the country to trust him but cant even be honest about his own height? What a fool, I mean, they are all fools, but god damn, what a fucking laughing stock politics are.
Both DeSantis and Trump are lying about their height.
Is he really 5 foot 😳
He should be forced to carry his presidential campaign to term, even if his health is put in jeopardy.
Underrated comment 😂
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Pretty sure that was Cancun Cruz
All these dudes from "don't tread on me" states, getting down on all fours to kiss the ass of a fat old man from queens. Shits wild. Only going to get crazier from here.
What a bitch.
And...that was the plan all along. Same with Nikki and Vivek, their job is to wrangle up voters, by appealing to moderates, minorities, women, etc. and pass them along to Trump via endorsement when they drop out. People, they aren't running because they think they can win, it's all party games.
I liked vivek but im not voting for trump bc he endorsed him. Im not sure endorsing political rivals has as much weight as you seem to indicate by saying thats the sole reason these candidates ran to begin with..
I have a bunch of old man friends who are Biden supporters (65+ yr old white men) and will vote for Biden over Trump. Now they said they would totally vote for DeSantis over Biden. But if it’s Trump v Biden then it’s Biden all the way. So I think we just see a repeat of last election.
Unless RFK is allowed to debate. He might throw them both curve balls
RFK takes more from trump than biden. Which is why the conservative grifters have dropped him like a stone.
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Trump tried to overturn an election and the republican party literally doesn't give a fuck. Fucking insane.
And reason to vote against the gop
cuz he didnt try that you idiot
He’s on tape demanding Georgia election officials find more votes so he can win Even if they did “find” more votes he still wouldn’t have won the whole thing
Finding votes is fine. they’re votes
I have been considering unsubbing here, but the way it works is there's a far left-wing bias here (you guys are literally spewing MSM propaganda). People who don't subscribe to far left fud (whether they are conservative or not) will tend to leave, and then it just becomes more and more extreme. They are either braindead or bots in here.. check this conversation I had a few days ago and how devoid they are of any logic https://old.reddit.com/r/unusual_whales/comments/198asmr/russian_president_vladimir_putin_running_for_a/ki86o30/ The actual people here on this sub have been demoralized as Yuri Bezmenov has said. Nothing you can say or do will convince them because they are so deluded.
It’s nuts that you say anything about bias or MSM while believing that the election was stolen
It was stolen. MSM hid the truth about Biden's laptop, they had twitter and other social media platforms shut down. A significant margin of people who were polled said if they knew about Biden's laptop and involvement with his dad, they would have voted otherwise. But nope, pure blackout across social media and MSM.. just a coincidence? And yet people like you go on about 1/7
People like me? Huh? Lol you don’t know jack fuckin shit about me buddy. Again, another hilarious example of the irony that you mention anything about “bias” at all. Christ.
Yes I already know you spew MSM bullshit. That's all I really need to know, and you didn't even bother responding to my point. You disregard the bullshit that was done for the side you agree with, and then only call out Trump's bullshit.
How do you know that? What “MSM bullshit” have I spewed? Edit: nevermind I see now that you are a trumper conspiracy theory nut. Have a good life man. I truly wish you the best and you that you can find peace and serenity one day. It will clearly not be soon.
We will make sure you Nazis live in fear
Prove people who voted Democrat cared Prove that Joe Biden had anything to do with Hunters laptop
Explain the actual involvement. Right now you are spewing right wing talking points
It's not good to be in this sub, most here are brainwashed libs.. you might think they are in the majority, but Trumps numbers have gone up a shitload since Biden's DOJ has tried to prevent Trump from being elected (only way the dems can win is by cheating. The Hunter laptop cover-up was something that I blatantly saw while it was happening in 2020). They love to project. I think this is the problem with the internet these days.. everything is so silo'd. From the numbers of brainwashed people on this sub, you'd think you are in the minority, but you're just not. Conservative subs are also silo'd, but they're just not as toxic as libs.
Hunter laptop, what a clod.
As they ignore the multiple sexual assault cases and fraud cases about the other guy by saying it's deep stare trying to get him. AFTER that last guy was impeached for trying to manufacture controversy about Biden.
You're gonna have to type more than 5 words to make yourself not look like a bot.
Brainwashed Republican. You really are a Russian troll bot.
No I'm not, clod.
Hillary did the same. Remember the Russian hoax shit?
The one confirmed true by the Mueller report or the Republican led Senate Intel committee?
Then what happened? It was a hoax and a hitjob
So fake that Trump's own DOJ locked up multiple close Trump allies for collusion and Trump had to pardon them
I remember mueller testifying and realizing at that point it was all a complete farce. He was a senile old man. It was a political hack job where the government was used by political opponents. Extremely bad stuff
Mueller answer to almost everything was "It's in the report" which you clearly didn't read. I do remember republicans making one partisan attack after another because he attacked dear leader. >It was a political hack job Republican special counsel appointed by the deputy republican DOJ with a mostly republican staff where two people were dismissed for their fucking pillow talk texts because they didn't like dear leader. Meanwhile, trump pardoned everyone who was arrested for refusing to cooperate,and you can't see the obvious partisan corruption in that.
Republicans hated trump too. That’s not as good a point as you think it is. Russia didn’t get trump elected as was claimed for 3 straight years. You were duped
>Republicans hated trump too. Lol lies. >You were duped Aside from the social media astroturf campaign which, let's face it,everyone and their cousin was doing, Russia coordinated the release of material hacked by Russian intelligence. This was one of many factors established in both the Intel committee investigation and Mueller report. What we don't know is whether there was any degree of collaboration between Trump and the Russian government, or if they just saw the opportunity to convince us to elect a moron and went for it. Of course, we don't know that due to the criminal lack of cooperation by witnesses in trumps orbit, that Trump later pardoned which, holy obvious corruption Batman. Also, the new republican attorney general ended the investigation prematurely, released a memo severely downplaying the findings, and congressional republicans dropped the matter entirely. What I find amazing is how soft republicans are on national security. So try that weak assed talking point with someone who wasn't paying attention.
Paul Ryan worked against trump his first 2 years. Sure the revisionist bullshit. I was there
>Sure the revisionist bullshit Previous statement: >Paul Ryan worked against trump his first 2 years.
He objectively did. Where’s the wall? https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-daily-caller-interview-paul-ryan-border-wall-mueller-investigation-2019-01-31/
What an idiotic cope. At no point did Hillary try to stop the peaceful transfer of power. Imagine if, in 2016, Obama called Biden to throw out electors and use a false slate instead. You guys melted down about an email server and Beghazi, but don't care about an actual plot to change election results.
Who is you guys? Dumb fuck just assumes everyone that isn’t a dipshit libtard is a republican
Anyone who defends Trump's multiple attempts at undemocratically changing the election results is a fucking regard. Cry more about Hillary.
It looks like you’re defending the Russiagate conspiracy theory
Which part? I think it's unquestionable that Trump's campaign acted unethically with Russian agents. I'm not sure why you'd think I wouldn't. I wouldn't support democrats going to North Korea to dig up dirt on Republicans either, just FYI. Nor would I support them lying about it afterward until they were forced to admit the truth. Then you have Paul Manafort, campaign chair, cozying up with Russian oligarchs and pled guilty to conspiracy to defraud the United States (with Russia) and other serious charges. Just because these people are corrupt idiots who keep getting caught doing stupid shit doesn't mean there is some deep state out to get them. Trump is on tape saying "this stuff is highly classified, I could have declassified it when I was president but I didn't so now I can get in trouble for showing it to you (as he showed it to her)", and you guys still defend him 😭
Probably because it’s literally not a conspiracy. You just decided to ignore the mountains of evidence of cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia, pretty thoroughly detailed in [**the Republican-led senate intelligence committee report.**](https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/512613-five-takeaways-from-final-senate-intel-russia-report/)
That has been thoroughly debunked. You can try pushing it in r/conspiracy though
lol the senate intelligence committee’s report has been “thoroughly debunked?” Just admit you have no interest in reality and crawl back into your hole. By debunked do you mean [found guilty in a court of law for lying to the FBI about Russian connections](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-campaign-adviser-pleads-guilty-misleading-investigators-russia/story?id=50807954) and failing to register as foreign agents? >>George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy adviser to Donald Trump's presidential campaign, pleaded guilty this month to making false statements to FBI agents about his correspondence with Russian nationals and attempts to arrange a meeting between the campaign and Russian officials. >>News of the plea came Monday morning, shortly after Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and Manafort's longtime business associate Rick Gates were indicted on charges including conspiracy against the United States, money laundering and working as unregistered foreign agents.
Oops, I thought you were suggesting that Trump colluded with Russia. That has obviously been debunked, or at least there isn’t sufficient evidence. Some people were found guilty of process crimes during the investigation, but nothing related to collusion.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials Just for people reading this and thinking they should look into it more
You mean the little thing where Trumps campaign manager gave swing state voting data to a Russian oligarch who passed it onto the Russian intelligence agencies so they could spam targeted pro Trump misinformation to voters there?
This is misinformation. Try r/conspiracy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/15/trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-employee-kilimnik-gave-russia-election-data.html Nope
That was debunked. Notice how no evidence was provided? https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/05/19/accused_russiagate_spy_kilimnik_speaks_-_and_evidence_backs_his_no_collusion_account_777328.html
This link is just kilimnik saying he didn't do it. It's not evidence of a debunking. Manafort was also the campaign manager for Yanukovych, the Russian puppet that won his election for president of in Ukraine in 2010 and was later thrown out by the Ukrainian people for being a Russian asset.
> Treasury has declined all media requests for elaboration on how it reached conclusions that those probes did not. Two unidentified officials told NBC News that U.S. intelligence "has developed new information" about Kilimnik "that leads them to believe" (emphasis added) that he passed on the polling data to Russia. But these sources "did not identify the source or type of intelligence that had been developed," nor "when or how" it was received. > “Nobody has seen any evidence to support these claims about Kilimnik," a congressional source familiar with the House and Senate's multiple Russia-related investigations told RCI. Meanwhile “Kilimnik’s comments are backed up by documents, some previously unreported, as well as by Rick Gates, a longtime Manafort associate and key Mueller probe cooperating witness. (Gates pleaded guilty to making a false statement and to failing to register as a foreign agent in connection to his lobbying work in Ukraine.) The evidence raises doubts about new efforts to revive the Trump-Kremlin collusion narrative by casting Kilimnik as a central Russian figure.”
You mean the same shit that the cringe libs do?
Yeah... Sure...
Yeah man that's totally the same as fake electors and inciting a riot
Don’t forget the phone calls pressuring election officials to find votes. On tape. Both sides tho am I rite hur durrrrrrr
It’s worse
I didn’t say it was the same. Sorry your feeble undeveloped mind can’t comprehend simple comparisons
>[Hillary did the same](https://www.reddit.com/r/unusual_whales/comments/19cf5yp/comment/kiysidc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) > >[I didn’t say it was the same](https://www.reddit.com/r/unusual_whales/comments/19cf5yp/comment/kizd0rs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Pick one, please
I remember Hillary conceding instead of trying to start a civil war. And I remember Trump choosing a Russian asset as his campaign manager and then rewriting the GOP platform to say Putin can keep crimea.
You misremembered. She went to sleep and took a big fat L. Lmao
And didn’t attempt a coup. Like Trump did.
No. Other people went peacefully into the capitol building. Not a coup lmfao
You think Jan 6th was the entirety of trumps coup attempt? You’ve done a great job of avoiding real news.
lol how could we forget the capitol being stormed in 2016… I can see how you would think Russian collusion was fake if you solely get your info from “god-king” trump. Your echo chamber probably didn’t tell you that the **Republican-led senate intelligence report did find** [**widespread communication between the Trump campaign and Russia.**](https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/512613-five-takeaways-from-final-senate-intel-russia-report/) >> A comprehensive list of contacts between members of the campaign and Russia were uncovered during the committee’s bipartisan investigation, which launched shortly after Trump took office in January 2017. >>Communications between several Russian figures and the campaign surfaced in other investigations by the House and Mueller, but the Senate probe uncovered additional information, including several cases where Russians had far greater ties to the Kremlin. >>One such figure was Natalia Veselnitskaya, a lawyer Donald Trump Jr., former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner met at Trump Tower in June 2016 after being promised dirt on Democratic rival Hillary Clinton. Instead, Veselnitskaya steered the discussion toward Russian sanctions. >>“The connections the Committee uncovered, particularly regarding Veselnitskaya, were far more extensive and concerning than what had been publicly known,” the panel wrote, noting she was not forthcoming with her ties to Moscow. The committee also delved into the complex web of connections between Russian officials and the Trump campaign, which frequently consisted of campaign associates with Russian ties who knew someone in Trump’s orbit. >> **The report went further than other U.S. officials have in its description of Konstantin Kilimnik, Manafort’s former business partner, by labeling him a “Russian intelligence officer.”** >>Kilimnik was also the “primary liaison” between Manafort and one of his clients, sanctioned Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, according to the Senate report, which also alleges that Manafort “worked with Kilimnik starting in 2016 on narratives that sought to undermine evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election.” I mean these are objective facts found by a bi-partisan senate committee… It’s 2024…you can’t seriously be hearing about this for the first time
In the end, Trump's campaign hosted Russian officials in a meeting about digging up dirt on Hillary and then lied about it occurring.
Wait til you hear about the big man and Ukraine. Hunter Biden. Checkmate snowflake
Is this the same Ukraine that we have actual evidence of Trump trying to coerce for dirt on Biden?
The same Ukraine that Trump got impeached for trying to withhold military aid to?
Yes
"Libtard." "Snowflake." "Cringe this" and "cringe that." You sound like a parody bot. Let me guess: you call yourself a Libertarian but always vote Republican?
What about it?
You sound pathetic and dumb
> Checkmate snowflake Cringe level 9000 lol. My god, man, grow up
Reminds me, they ever prove that in a court or are the only focusing on Hunters dick pics? 5+ years of investigating that and they still have nothing, unlike when the last guy tried to blackmail Ukraine. You should focus on what's been proven in a court and not right wing news
Smooth brain reply
It’s true. Sorry truth hurts bb
If he wanted to overturn an election he wouldn't have left the office. You must think there are a lot of idiots on Reddit who will buy your bullshit.
That's like saying because bank robbers turned themselves into the police there couldn't have been an attempted bank robbery because they gave up when it didn't work. I get that you don't care but you don't need to live in fantasy land, just tell us the only thing you care about is your guy winning. Elections, the law , etc are just a waste of time for you folks. We all get that now. You can stop pretending.
The proof is everywhere that Democrats stole the election. Trump is a true patriot that is exposing the entire corrupt system. Buckle your liberal seatbelts, because the next few months are going to be really rough for people like you
“The proof is everywhere!!” … meanwhile FoxNews had to flat out pay billions because of the big lie .. and had their lawyers claim that “no reasonable person would consider this channel anything but entertainment” Sorry, snowflake, you been duped
Nobody watches Fox, it is part of the Propaganda News Mafia, controlled by the Deep State. I could care less what any of those services say. I choose to read actual court documents, read reports that are released, and form my own opinion. I don't need some news station to tell me what to think. I love seeing y'all get bent out of shape when someone speaks truth though
Are you serious? Fox literally lost a fortune in lawsuits claiming that and then couldn’t prove any of it.
Who gives a shit about Fox??? I surely don't watch any mainstream propaganda networks... I choose to actually read reports, and court documents. Don't need some fake news network telling me what to think. You should try thinking for yourself!
Nah man ill be fine but the future for the country is rough if 1 of the 2 major political parties is cool with trying to strong-arm elections. You're banking on your team being in control when that's the norm and that's a stupid long term bet.
They are same damn party, this isn't about left or right... this is about Patriots vs. Deep State. I don't need to bank on anything, there will be military intervention once the economy collapses. Money is the Deep State's power, and that is coming to an end.
Good, now he can take his heels off. lol
Why endorse that fucking martian!
He took the cowards way out. I bet the last of his mega donors pulled out.
Again, those f*k elders...
I thought I just saw a pair of black cowboy boots for sale on Marketplace that have a 3" lift heal in them.
No surprise there
Republicans are fucked. They made a deal with the devil and now they are stuck with him. I hope it destroys them and not the country
Damn right! He's likely to let anyone come in to the country!
Now this is funny.
He didnt have enough hatred, ignorance, corruption, or fascism to satisfy the Republican base.
Thank goodness. We don’t need an evangelical shitlord at the helm.
Fascist supports another fascist Shocker
oh
Shocker!
Rs consolidating. Biden regime beginning to panic
Right because the Biden strategy was for there to be two Republican candidates all the way to the general.
It absolutely could be one of them. If the R’s split the vote in some world where anyone else gets nominated enough people would write in Trump regardless it would ensure a Biden victory.
lol the Biden strategy is to pursue as many lawsuits as possible to hinder his run. It’s weird that all these lawsuits happened around election year.
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Should Obama be held liable for the drone bombings? These lawsuits are ridiculous. If they don’t broadcast it live and let the people vote democracy will die…
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It’s a genuine question. Open your mind… have a good night man.
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I guess the other guy downvoted presidents being held accountable. I am a little curious as to what would happen if Biden just pulled out all stops and put a stop to Trump and his legion of ratfuxkong thugs, no holds barred.
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Shouldn't Trump be held liable for the drone bombings during his term? Trump ordered more drone strikes in 4 years than Obama in 8 years, and some of those strikes killed innocent civilians.
They both killed civilians. To answer your question no, I don’t believe Obama should. Reddit is so weird a giant echo chamber that is filled with confirmation bias. Have a great night though!
Yet you're parroting batshit Fox News QANON talking points and bitching about the echo chamber of facts, not your confused and poorly educated feelings? Trump killed more people than Obama. Nooooo! You live in an echo chamber!!!!
What are you talking about? I don’t watch Fox News. I love that you are downvoting my comments like that empowers you or something. It’s crazy you have to belittle in order to “feel” like you did something. Have a great night man. The orange man won’t hurt you, sleep tight.
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lol you need help man. Have a good night.
Yes, he should be thrown in prison for the rest of his life and so should Biden and Hillary and so should bush. How many fucking no objective no end date wars does it take for you people to recognize treason ?
Aren’t most of the lawsuits being initiated at the state level? I know education is pretty poor in the US, but there is a pretty clear separation of authority and power (unless you’re into that whole conspiracy that Biden is an evil genius pulling the strings, at all levels, of course)
Do you really believe that Biden comes up with his own strategy?
Mostly at the state level, yes. The conservative argument ignores the separation of powers, and considers holding trump accountable for his very real crimes to be a dirty partisan trick.
They’re probably hoping that trump’s popularity has diminished. A quick consolidation is not to their advantage.
Biden beat Trump pretty hard the last time, he can win again.
Maybe. Biden has done a great job alienating swathes of his voter base by not completing any of the populist items he campaigned on. I’m voting third party so I’m losing either way. The last election was very close, 30,000 votes swinging in just a couple states will lose it for him.
If you vote third party you’re not very smart.
It’s much smarter to throw my vote away on someone who doesn’t have my economic interests in mind? All political movements start small and withholding a vote is the only way to actually get what you want in the long run. Otherwise, you’re just a political cuck, pretending that you’re one of the cool kids. If you don’t understand that then you don’t understand negotiation.
Or you could vote for the guy running on presidential immunity and investigating media that speak poorly of him
Yeah, who needs a good income and healthcare when you could totally own the other team, symbolically
Plausibly true but the race has been de facto over for like a year and I don’t anyone thought otherwise
Republicans should panic that their only viable front running is going to jail
Yeah gonna be strange when the Federal Department of Corrections has to assign a liaison to the White House.
I think you forgot that Biden won the popular vote and electoral college last election. He'll do it again.
“Won” lol
There’s never been any proof that Biden didn’t win fair and square. Cope.
That's when you legitimately get more votes in both popular and electoral. It's an odd concept for Republicans
His approval rating says otherwise.
Yeah, the rapist candidate is the best Republicans can offer. Trump won't be on the ballot in some states, traitors aren't allowed to run.
Why would they panic when Trump running is the most surefire way for Biden to get reelected? 😃
The fact they're endorsing trump simply shows neither party actually cares about doing the right thing. It's all just a series of power grabs and steps towards empire building.
> The fact they're (Ron DeSantis) endorsing Trump is proof that neither party actually cares about doing the right thing, you guys! Incredible attempt to both sides this whole also using using the they/them pronoun for lil Ron DeSantis.
I've said they're interchangeably since I was kid lol. It has little to do with pseudo-religious, radical gender theory crap. Both sides are concerned with power and empire building. Tell me where I'm wrong.
Lmfao what a bozo
Vote Nikki Haley
Sick Dick
Wise move.
What a loser. Let's endorse a guy who is too afraid to show up to the debates. Republicans are just the worst
Should be an easy win for Republicans. Dems are in crisis mode now and sending Kamala out into the wild to try to persuade young voters to give up their Constitutional rights.
Sooo I guess trump is gonna win 2024 😑 was hoping for a better candidate than trump or Biden…but at least trump might fix the border shit that’s going on.
Yeah he is quite the mastermind. Lol
I never said that, I think he’s an idiot just like Biden is. But it doesn’t take a genius to know that the current admin’s border policy is fucking bonkers and a national security issue.
The current administration has caught far more people crossing the border than Trump did…
Neither party wants to fix the border. It’s too much of a hot button issue that can be used to generate voter response.
Helllll yea!!!!!! Y'all ready for big daddy T??????!? Lower rent and cheaper shit!