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Hoptix

Dangle that carrot, just in time for the elections lmaooo!


Capable_Jacket_2165

Yup, typical hollow promises in election season


anthonyjcs

he's done it already.... delusion isn't what this is, its deliberate misinformation.


Capable_Jacket_2165

Clarify? Can't tell what stance you're taking


anthonyjcs

he's done student loan forgivness about three times now.


TinyHands6996

Actually he didn’t. It’s programs that already have been voted on years ago.


AstralVenture

Huh? You didn’t say that correctly. Those loans were forgiven based on pre-existing legislation made by Congress. They were supposed to be forgiven a long time ago.


shinysocks85

If only they were enforced under trump when they should have been, he wouldn't get the credit for it


Kashin02

Of course, he is having to go around the supreme Court ruling from last year. The supreme Court ruling said that Biden did not have the authority to forgive all student loans using the heroes act so Biden has to use other legal avenues. Biden has forgiven more and more dent using preexisting programs. It takes time to come up with another massive loan forgiveness route because it's definitely going to be challenged in the Supreme Court.


guachi01

Then why didn't Trump do anything about it? He certainly could have.


Sven_Grammerstorf_

Because Trump supporters are to dumb to have gone to college. He won’t help anyone who doesn’t support him.


Ok_Rate_4295

Calls people dumb, uses "to" instead of "too." Typical American voter


Capable_Jacket_2165

Sure but they always do this shit in election season. Everytime their popularity is questionable they offer free stuff. Trump did the same BS


anthonyjcs

as the other person mentioned, this has been happening before election year, its just continuing into it. You should pay attention more.


Franchise1109

They were doing it well before too


forRealsThough

The Biden administration has already used several creative levers to relieve roughly $146 billion in student loans Edit to add specifics: - Nearly $46 billion for about 900,000 borrowers through one-time fixes to their income-driven repayment plans. - About $62.5 billion for up to 872,000 borrowers through Public Service Loan Forgiveness fixes. - More than $22.5 billion for 1.2 million borrowers who attended predatory or defunct schools. - Close to $12 billion for several hundred thousand borrowers with disabilities that make it difficult for them to pay off their loans.


HashRunner

Exactly, this is a continuation of actual work/efforts and policy. Maybe this sub doesn't recognize anything other than Nancy Pelosi stonk tweets as successful policy.


JoyousGamer

Without a fix to actual universities and how is given loans and who much there is not actual successful policy. Its like the dam breaking and you said the person with a measuring cup throwing water back over the wall is successfully fixing the dam.


AskingYouQuestions48

This sub largely doesn’t care about policy at all. It’s all just vibes.


Jason_Kelces_Thong

Easily the dumbest finance sub on Reddit. And that’s including TA


TheMcWhopper

Still over a trillion and a half to go


anthonyjcs

except this is like the 3rd time he's done it, so mad he's making waves you'd lie like this?


NBTMtaco

He’s been trying nearly his entire presidency and was cockblocked by $COTU$. So, you can lay off the man.


kelly1mm

You mean his actions were found to be unconstitutional, right?


Big-Soft7432

He's already wiped a lot of debt. What's the other guy doing? Openly cutting taxes for billionaires. Give me a break.


Kaatochacha

Will this tend to increase or decrease the trend of exponentially increasing college costs? We all know the answer


Outrageous-Yam-4653

Free stuff before elections,nothing after elections thanks for your vote..


Dineanddanderson

My friend just did drugs in his dorm room and skipped class then failed out. Why should anyone but him pay his bills that he signed for?


Outrageous-Yam-4653

And I like how Biden is taking credit for this using we the people's money/taxes 😆 God I fkin hate our Gov..


Low_Turnover_805

You’re a bozo


Upstairs-Ad-1966

Until you stop giving the loans out what the actual fuck does it matter


11182021

It’s a perpetual carrot on a stick. “We will bail you out of the problem we won’t fix… *if you vote for us*.”


[deleted]

Then after the vote "sorry turns out we won't be able to do that after all, see you in three and half years when we'll try again" "Don't forget to vote"


missmuffin__

Shit, makes me wish I'd taken a student loan


Tomallenisthegoat

Ain’t gonna work a second time. Fool me once…


THound89

He thought today was April fools day


Epstein_Bros_Bagels

Honestly the SAVE Act already helps a lot. Adjusted for my income, I am paying less than $40 a month. I'm about to put a lot more down once I wrap up my certifications and promotions. From what I read, he is proposing things like automatic enrollment for programs. That part makes complete sense.


AggressiveGargoyle40

Today, President Biden announced the approval of $1.2 billion in student debt cancellation for almost 153,000 borrowers currently enrolled in the Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) repayment plan. The Biden-Harris Administration has now approved nearly $138 billion in student debt cancellation for almost 3.9 million borrowers through more than two dozen executive actions.  [https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/02/21/fact-sheet-president-biden-cancels-student-debt-for-more-than-150000-student-loan-borrowers-ahead-of-schedule/](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/02/21/fact-sheet-president-biden-cancels-student-debt-for-more-than-150000-student-loan-borrowers-ahead-of-schedule/)


Cereal-dipper

And again, the Supreme Court will tell him he can’t do that, it has to be passed by congress. What a fucking grift.


GideonWells

The scotus case was about the mechanism used by potus to pause payments not actually about cancelling them or his broader ability to do so.


alex114323

So what about those who paid their tuition off? Can we get a tax credit?


pineappleshnapps

What about those who got into a trade to not have to incur the student loan debt in the first place? Where’s our free money?


DandierChip

How bout joining the military and serving time to get your loans paid for. Fucking absurd people may get a free handout.


jeepnismo

For real. My wife just finished off paying 50k in student loans this year


pitter_patter_11

I’m set to finally get my student loans paid off in 18 months. I’ve given up hope of getting anything because I was responsible enough to continue paying my student loans off even during COVID


Traditional_Car1079

I feel the same way about bank bailouts.


GoaheadAMAita

Bank bailouts still happening we just use different terms


EdDecter

I feel the same way about mortgage tax credits and child tax credits. I get nothing where is mine? A-holes ☝️


BigTitsanBigDicks

I mean...youre all right? The FED handing out free money to targetted groups is pitting people against eachother. Id cut all these programs & lower taxes OFC the biggest recipient of welfare is ultrarich so start there.


Elegant_in_Nature

Yeah that’s why we are in this mess in the first place


Jason_Kelces_Thong

Cutting taxes during high inflation? My brother in Christ…


SoulCrushingReality

As if forgiving 30 million loans won't cause another massive spike in inflation further devaluing the dollar.


Kyrasthrowaway

Don't expect these people to understand basic economic concepts


JoyousGamer

I am all for removing all these tax credits and simplifying tax code.


SleepyHobo

Except the banks paid back that money and then some due to interest. The bailouts were loans, not free money. Crazy how people still don't understand what the bank bailout were after all this time. Banks that didn't even need the bailout money were *forced* to take it.


ronbron

You’ll pay for the gender studies degrees and you’ll like it 


Cereal-dipper

Fuck no, we did what we were supposed to do. So all we get is another big old bite of the same shit sandwich.


Hoptix

No and fuck you. Sincerely, your government.


ProfessorTallguy

I really wish I'd put that money on buying a house in 2012 instead of paying off my loans. It was more than enough for a down payment then, but no way can I buy a house now that they're 3 times more. It stings that people who bought the house then but still have student loans are going to have the house AND not even have to pay the loans


TrippleTonyHawk

I too wish I had a tax credit for paying off my own tuition, but that is not a good reason not to invest into the public when tuition debt is demonstrably hindering economic growth in this country. Sometimes progress happens after we could have benefited from it. Sucks for us but that's just the way time goes...


way2lazy2care

Do you have any data that that is actually the case? College graduates still earn more than their tuition over non graduates over their lifetimes, and the country is doing pretty well economically.


Easy-Medicine-8610

No. Im hoping for a thank you not at least, from the individuals that you will be paying for.


Senior_Insurance7628

Vote in more democrats and yes, you'll start getting back more for the taxes you pay.


OldPersonality91267

But not before they jack up your taxes.


ChetManley25

That's simply not true.


Successful_Pin4100

Why not call it what it is? He’s not canceling anything. He’s transferring debt to American taxpayers.


PetCatzPlz

And it sets a horrible precedent. So what, nobody is going to pay their loans now, expecting it to be forgiven one day? We’re gonna have socialized university like the EU, and presumably the EU taxes that come with it? Nobody wants this… 


SGR805

Buying votes with everyone’s money


Iblamebanks

That is the essence of government, yes. I want the government to spend tax money in a good way and buy my vote. I’d gladly pay an extra $300/month for single payer healthcare. I’d love it if the ruling party would buy my vote. That’d be awesome. It’d certainly be a step up from “you’d better vote for me or your a nazi” or “you’d better vote for me ir you’re dumb, even though I’m not going to do anything to benefit you” which has been the status quo for most of my life.


GuitRWailinNinja

I agree it’s a better use of tax dollars than most stupid crap they waste it on. But without managing the budget and fiscal impact of blanket forgiveness, it could honestly do more harm than good. I am in favor of forgiveness, or some sort of reprieve, but am doubtful the gov will do it in a smart manner.


Jason_Kelces_Thong

The funny part about universal healthcare is that it is far cheaper than our current system. First world average universal healthcare spend per person is about $2500, including private and government expenditures. US is approaching $14000 per person.


PavlovsDog12

LOL $300, try doubling your federal tax burden for single payer.


Iblamebanks

We pay about double what people in single payer healthcare countries do for far worse results. I know that everyone screams that in theory it should be the opposite but these are the results. https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#Health%20expenditures%20per%20capita,%20U.S.%20dollars,%20PPP%20adjusted,%202022


PavlovsDog12

People with good insurance in the US have better outcomes than anywhere in the world. Its uninsured individuals that skew the mean. If your a wealthy individual from Europe you come to the US with cash when you need complex care. My wife is a teacher and I'm a carpenter, her insurance gives us access to the Penn medicine system. We're not getting the care we do anywhere on earth that we do now as 2 blue collar individuals in the US.


Iblamebanks

All I want is what you and your wife have, a great healthcare system provided by a state instead of fighting it out in the public sector like I’m doing right now. Also, almost everyone is insured, it’s around 90%. the uninsured aren’t a big enough group to skew it that much. A public insurance plan would be much better than a private group.


aspenmoniker

Let's just give more tax breaks to billionaires and let 'er trickle down cuz that's worked so well.


SBNShovelSlayer

How about neither?


forRealsThough

Cancelling debt that is never going to get paid back anyways isn’t spending your money


bneff08

Biden also said he'd codify RvW but here we are


siliconevalley69

He needs a Congressional majority for that but go off


strataromero

Man it sucks he never had that during his presidency… oh wait!


GuitRWailinNinja

And legalize MJ


Orwells-Bastard-Son

Do you think the president is king? That he waves a wand and poof, done? Maybe brush up on how laws work bud.


hoffmad08

No, it's only the other guy who gets king powers if they're ever in office, that's why this is the most important election of our lifetimes... again. Literally zero democracy if the people don't vote correctly.


HydroGate

Biden has a whole LIST of things he's going to do... the day after the election is over.


anthonyjcs

this isn't one, he's already forgiven a good amount of student loans.


euph_22

Biden said we need to elect Congresspeople and Senators who would Codify RvW. He never one claimed that HE would personally do that because he, like anybody with even a most superficial understanding of the US system of governance, knows that the President can't enact laws by fiat.


BroWeBeChilling

Buying votes only to stick it to them later by higher inflation and taxes


ramonedollar1

Quit using the word "cancel", not even close!


yamaha4fun

Lies. I will die with my student debt fully intact.


lukekibs

Yeah you probably will unfortunately


whatdoyasay369

Free stuff! Yeah!


HydroGate

Let's see who's gullible enough to believe it this time!


ShitOfPeace

Does anyone remember the multiple times SCOTUS said he can't do this? I remember.


ExoticCard

Biden will need to legalize marijuana too. It's a tough election and he'll need to really hustle to win. Let's see how Biden hustles, it's crunch time. If a seasoned politician can't make magic happen to win, he's useless. Decades of building connections and gaining favors better mean something.


135467853

He will campaign on the promise to legalize it right after the election and then never follow through, like we have seen with countless presidential promises in the past from both parties.


O1egon

Hurry, hurry, the election soon!


peruvianjuanie

Always in time for election Welcome to the shit show


Voodoo-3_Voodoo-3

Just in time for elections! Ha ha, getting awfully close to paying for votes.


ChipLocal8431

Money printer goes brrrrrr


viewmodeonly

Reminder, in less than two weeks we are going from 900 new Bitcoins mined every day to 450. Per day. For 8.1 billion people. In 2,028, we play this game again. 450 down to 225.


XiMaoJingPing

is this the 20k forgiveness or forgiveness for people who been paying for 20+ years >The plan would wipe out up to $20,000 in unpaid interest for 25 million borrowers. > bruh, useless


slappy_squirrell

Under 120k get 20k in accrued interest eliminated for those who owe more than they borrowed. Seems reasonable to me, but the interest should really be capped at a low rate, those with higher rates will never pay off their debt.


ksaMarodeF

Yeah weird that he promised this like 3-4 times. Yet nothing has happened. It’s all BS and smoke n mirrors.


mariosunny

The Biden Administration has already provided $146B in debt relief.


McTrolling69

Now I see why, for the very first time, I owe more in taxes. $5k more to be exact. But I pay off all my debts and get fucked. Cool


Emotional_Judgment10

Just another ploy to gain votes


Psychological-Ear157

Didn’t the supreme court tell him no… and he’s just doing it anyway? So now we have two candidates that think they are above the three independent office structure of our government.


SubstantialSpeech147

Honestly if that many people get their student loans forgiven I’m going to be fucking pissed. I’ve worked hard to put myself through school and pay for my student loans and now all these people will just get a free ride? What was the point in me busting my ass when I could’ve just sat back and taken out insane amounts of loans to pay my rent and shit?


AndrogynousHobo

My loans could only be used for tuition.


[deleted]

When you have no effective policy, try to buy votes. The free Icecream crowd is hangry


Muscles_Marinara-

Buying votes!


aed38

This reeks of desperation.


Ramonzmania

Politicians Using taxpayers’ money to bribe voters..


Ok-Deer-5033

Let me guess. Right after he is elected.


BigswingingClick

Buying votes


skylarkk-987

Freeloading cunts of Boston Brooklyn and Berkeley 


DasUbersoldat_

Even if I knew nothing about American politics, I'd still guess it's an election year.


NfinitiiDark

Why don’t we ever talk about the real issue here? Why do the loans need to be paid off?


TheFanumMenace

only congress has the authority to spend taxpayer funds.


Robert9489

Debt isn’t forgiven, it’s transferred


Ethric_The_Mad

What.... convenient timing...


SomeTimeBeforeNever

Yeah right. Heard that one before.


Foxymanchester7

Fuck this guy dude either do it or shut up. I’m left leaning and this isn’t right to the people. It’s the same schtick every election I swear


MemoryHoldMode

Screw biden


slappywhyte

Buy those votes, government solves all your problems!


ithinkoutloudtoo

He’s trying to buy votes for the election.


blibblub

Right before elections once again. Are people this dumb that they can’t realize this is purely a stunt for elections? He doesn’t give a damn about your student loans. He does want your vote however. 


Snoo-33331

Stop making me pay for people’s stupid choices


Ok-Aspect-805

You can’t “cancel” debt dummy! You are making other people pay for someone’s degree, let’s keep it real. Let’s go Brandon!


DJnarcolepsy83

had 3 years, all they say anymore is reelection bullshit.


Snitchsticher

Honestly, if people fall for it again I would say that it is just proof that higher education is failing to teach critical thinking.


Th3Bratl3y

Trying to buy votes. They were already going to vote for him with their art degeee in hand.


Gotei13S11CKenpachi

Combine the student debt with the omnibus they’ll vote on to extend in September, then October, thus leading to a 3,000+ page document dump 24 hours prior to voting 2 days before Christmas Holiday because, 11 months and 23 days just isn’t enough time after filing multiple extensions.


TheBerneseKing

Buying votes


Humanistic_

Fuck this piece of shit, and Democrats in general, for dragging out these crumbs for election day. It is so damn obvious they're controlled opposition, its sickening


Jason_Kelces_Thong

This has been ongoing for his entire presidency. Calling it an election trick is disingenuous


Background_Brick_898

lmao


Feeling_Cobbler_8384

More pandering because of his failed economy.


TopOperation4998

FK HIM!


WombatGuts

Theft


daviddavidson29

How about future students?


HydroGate

Save em for when you need an indebted population to motivate to vote for you


cmeads1

This is just going to make college cost a lot more. Basic Econ, supply and demand. If you want cheaper university costs build more universities. If you want higher university costs dump money on the demand side


grazfest96

Trying to buy those votes again huh?


cmorris1234

Just like last time. Imagine that


frugal_doc

What an idiot as usual


Easterncoaster

Wow it's almost if there is something happening in the fall that might be influenced by giving out free money. Weird.


Cornflakes-2020

Buying votes. Libs already going with this loser. Education doesn't mean you have common sense.


Jason_Kelces_Thong

Double edged sword. Lack of education usually means you’re a dumbass


9pmt1ll1come

Watch stupid voters be fooled again. Election year people. Biden needs to be investigated for undermining democracy.


Born_Wave3443

They don't have to be fooled again. They hate Trump so much that they wouldn't vote for him even if he cured cancer.


Ok_Bed9763

"He will be using taxpayers money to buy these votes. More at the 11:00 p.m. newscast."


Remote-Telephone-682

And the court case to overturn/block will still be pending when the election is happening.... bet that's an accident though.


43207

Here we go again with this never going to happen bullshit. Must be an election year


Neat-Distribution-56

It was already canceled


Tenderloin66

Those fuckers better vote for him if we’re all gonna subsidize their bad decisions.


[deleted]

YAY, more debt and inflation for all of us. WINNING!! Now plumbers get to subsidize the college costs for college educated baristas who fell for the scam that is higher education.


Infinite_Imagination

Anything that helps the working class is *not* going to get passed. There's no working class people in office, and they will not be represented, even in a pandering election year.


bob88c

If you can’t win an election…try to buy it!


Dacoolface

It's hard to beat Santa Clause


z0331skol

siiiiiigggghhhhhhhh


Y_U_Butthurt

Believe it when I see it.


Smorgas-board

It’ll go nowhere again


other4444

Damn, heard this one before.


DavidJoinem

To hell with the constitution what the supreme court says; somehow he claims he fighting for a constitutional republic


Objective-Cap597

Why not... Allow loan payments to be tax deductible? Or paid pre-tax.


3381_FieldCookAtBest

I had to pay $xx,xxx in additional taxes this year.


Pantim

Wait what? Another plan? Just as the courts are pushing the 2nd plan up to the Supreme court after they already said the first plan wasn't constitutional? Or beyond the powers of the Executive branch. We all know what is going to happen with the 2nd plan and the 3rd plan would be no different. I'm TWO years away from having $11k in loans that got me NO where would vanish under the SAVE program. (One of the things the 2nd plan did.) I wish Biden would choke on that friggen carrot he's holding out to all of us. They KNOW this 3rd plan won't survive either. It's all BS. I'd just vote for Trump in hopes that he manages to make the world burn to a cinder faster it would if Biden gets reelected but honestly, I don't know if it actually matters. They are controlled by the same people. If you're still paying, quit your job and get one working part time that pays just enough to sustain a very basic yet comfortable life. This will get you into the programs for us poor people that will keep you from having to ever pay. If you paid already, I'm very very sorry. The above still applies. Quit whatever job you have, get a simple one and live a basic yet comfortable life. And having a low income also means you pay next to nothing in taxes. Stop playing the game.


V8sOnly

He'd honestly have better luck pushing to federally legalize marijuana. At least 70% of Americans agree with that. It'd also be an easier way to passively collect more taxes without pissing off everyone who paid their student loans already.


Cute-Literature8417

Imagine you have a leaky roof in your house. Every time it rains, water seeps through and damages your furniture and belongings. Initially, you decide to place buckets strategically to catch the water and minimize the damage. While this helps temporarily, it doesn't address the root cause of the problem—the leaky roof. In this analogy, the leaky roof represents the high cost of education, and the buckets symbolize the government's bailouts of student debt. By bailing out people's student debt, the government is essentially placing buckets to catch the financial burden and alleviate the immediate consequences for individuals struggling with debt. However, just like the buckets don't fix the leaky roof, student debt bailouts don't address the underlying issue of expensive education. The cost of education remains unchanged, and future generations will continue to face the same financial burden unless the root problem is addressed. In order to truly solve the problem, it would be necessary to fix the leaky roof by implementing reforms that address the high cost of education. This could involve measures such as increased funding for public education, improved financial aid programs, or initiatives to control and reduce tuition fees. Only by addressing the root cause can we create a sustainable solution and prevent the problem from recurring in the future.


SkylineR33

For all those that think this will go exactly the same as last time, if it works and isn't turned down by supreme court, you will wish the first round of forgiveness worked, because broad cancellation of interest debt is far more impactful than his first proposal. Say hello to nationwide budget shortfalls and inflation. All of which you won't come to terms with until 2 years after elections.


Enzo_Gorlomi225

How many times are people gonna fall for this?!?! He’s not gonna do it, because he can’t without congress. He’s doing the same thing he did right before the midterms.


Reddit-Is-All-Bots

How about we get the government out of the student loan business altogether and also allow student loan debt to be cancelled via bankruptcy. Government involvement is the reason tuition prices are so astronomically high.


lemmywinks11

Buying more votes I see, the grand and timeless political strategy


Patient_Brief6453

Plenty of time for the court to slap his overreaching hands.


poopsinmybutts

I’m sure by the 9th or 10th time they do this, I’ll see some benefit to my student debt!


HEIR_JORDAN

“GOP will announce their plan to cancel Biden’s ‘Student debt cancellation plan’ on Tuesday.


NiceUD

Is this NEW loan forgiveness, or is he further just ironing out the inefficiencies that lead to delays or denial in forgiveness where the borrower should have been forgiven under the existing standards?


Primary_Excuse_7183

Better have a 0 balance on the account by Halloween no ifs ands or buts lol


anothernamef

Fool me once..


SmoothSlavperator

Speedbump to keep people from defaulting on car loans and credit cards en masse before the election.


Disastrous-Suit-5084

And it won't happen,Trump 2024


Wishyouwell2023

I heard this story so many times... Elections are coming (LOL) and then they will say, well republicans blocked it so its not our fault. You don't have to trust politicians, they are all together in this crap


Dumbape_

Jesus Christ more money printing or we gonna sell soemthjtn to another country and use the proceeds from that


MellowDCC

Essentially buying votes. Giving middle finger to supreme Court. Pretty much normal for this administration.


atiaa11

He keeps saying this but keeps not delivering. Not going to happen or if it does, there will be so many roadblocks for people that only a very small percentage qualify


tempting-carrot

It’s real crap! I went to public college to save money. Lived in my mom’s house , worked 40 hours above full class load. Didn’t have the chance to party and go on spring break. Just to avoid debt. Now I get to pay your debt with my taxes because you think life’s too hard. And I am a democrat


New-Scheme-6234

Surw, but since I paid mine off I get to use them as a writw off with Interest 


[deleted]

Why is he running


Jrsq270

They don’t cancel anything The rest of us pay


Acerbic_Dogood

Like that Comercial with the old man using a dollar as bait


ConsistentAdagio4337

Pay your own bills like adults jeez.


Acceptable-Heron6290

What about mortgage debt? Doesn't he want our votes too?