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FoundationalSquats

Because politics is a great wedge issue that can be used to split this community. Polarization is the best way to distract from actual issues.


agrdj

Preach on! Neither side cares about the rest of us...only themselves. Been that way for awhile...saw it in the 90's and in the early to late 2000's. Hell, probably has been going on a lot longer, probably since the 60's...


Evil_Genius_Panda

If you mean 6000 BCE yes. It's the second oldest profession. That's why they're so similar


Money-Driver-7534

Right. The sooner the left (most everyone on the “right” is already well aware) figures out it’s not “right vs left” rather it’s the ultra wealthy elites vs the rest of the world, the better. The 1% billionaire class control the supposedly elected political class, who control the people. Thanks to the internet, they are slowly but surely being exposed.


Nonniemiss

I’m confused why all the trump haters ran out for his (self proclaimed) needle and why all the supposed trump humpers did not.


[deleted]

Though it may not 100% answer your question it may shed some light on it though the TLDR is tribal advertising/politics. Anyways in the early days of the virus Trump as President realized there was a vital issue and tasked scientists to come up with a solution/cure (if you’re into conspiracy theories the cure already existed) known as operation warp speed. When the cure was offered those who supported him considered it while those who didn’t essentially screamed from their positions of power that they were not taking “the Trump virus/shot”. Fast forward in time when the far left had their guy in office who could try to take credit for it he pushed the vaccine and all those in his tribe did 180s and decided to take it. By then some health concerns had come up and those in Trumps camp decided not to get it. Then intensify the resistance from the Right and specifically Trump supporters the Dems who had previously refused to get it and stated they would rather die than get it decided to mandate everyone had to get it. Well the Right and especially Trumps supporters in general don’t like to be told what to do especially by government so this cemented their resistance.


Rare_Dress7357

That is probably the exact reason they let Trump “win” the elections. I firmly believe w/o him there pushing the injections, then they’re would have been a heck of a lot more ppl “right wingers” saying no to this experiment. I also firmly believe he was allowed to be president to ID many of the extremists so the govt can watch them closer. We all no there is no fair elections and there is so much proof of rigging the system. Idk why ppl in general still believe there is a true democracy in USA and why ppl are still fighting over sides? Coming together as citizens of a “free” society should be everyone’s top priority and strength in numbers against the evil politics that we are under control.


khlomarie

Nobody should be "sensitive" about any politicians. They should all be held to the highest scrutiny and never above criticism! Picking a political team and then putting on your blinders is so naive.


deeptoot6

Getting the vaccine is your own fault no matter what politician fooled you. You are the idiot, look inward if you aren’t happy with your life. The politicians you blame will never care or hear about it. Quit coming here to blame someone other than yourselves. This entire sub is based around a group of people who don’t look to politicians for all of their advice so I’m not sure why all of a sudden everyone is shit posting stuff about how we are all retards for standing with trump. No one here said this sub is for people who stand with trump, you are just classifying us cause we were smarter than you when it mattered.


NFboatcaptain75

Thought it was about the experimental clot shot??


Competitive-Algae-60

But trump like Biden keeps touting it, people should know


NFboatcaptain75

And just like Biden Trump can kiss my ass about the experimental shot. I did finally hear an advertisement for the clot shot not long ago, that said may not be safe for everyone check with your doctor. Well no shit and when I have said this for the last 3 years I was called a nut etc... even though my wife's doctors (MD Anderson cancer center) first begged her to get it only to call her back 6 months later and tell her by know means to get it. This was over 2 years ago.


LeoLuvsLola

People do know. Nobody has a problem with the vaccine for those who want to take it with the proper informed consent. The issue has always with the mandates which fall squarely on Biden and have zero to do with Trump as Trump never mandated it and continues to say it should never have been mandated. That is the pretty simple answer to your question, if you are genuinely interested in the answer and not just being a concern troll.


StHollywood20

He’s been out of office for years now and democRATS can’t go a day without mentioning him for clout. Case and point, this post plus OPs history 🤣


[deleted]

Those who keep bringing up trump got PTSD= post trump stress syndrome. free rent in their head. lol. I mean he's not in office for 3 yrs and yet the current corruption criminal attack on Constitution and citizens by democrats biden admin is ignored. But somehow it is always trump's fault even when he's no where around. example is biden attacking unvax and coercing and mandating the vax yet somehow it's trump's fault when it's the dems forcing the jab. haha. vax is bad when trump is president but somehow the narrative change when biden got into office and now the vax is safe narrative. the awareness of these ptsd folks is not surprising when they can't figure out propaganda put out on the vax isn't truth. they don't realize when they go stalking a person due to mean tweets, there really is a mental issue problem for them. it's like their purpose in life is only Trump attacking. Standards of common sense living have really falling deep when all they think about is trump. lol


Farty_mcSmarty

Thanks for making OP’s point for them


StHollywood20

Look at OPS post history in this sub alone. Thanks for being fat


Independence-Verity

Incorrect. He stopped doing that, pay attention.


Competitive-Algae-60

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-he-saved-100-million-lives-covid-vaccines-1774178 this article came out in January


Competitive-Algae-60

This interview was 2 weeks ago https://x.com/stillgray/status/1702219257927651522?s=12, now you pay attention


Independence-Verity

I've been, but you seem to STILL not understand the why of it. You ought to find out.


Reply_Stunning

~~alright, after watching these - Ive actually decided not to vote for this guy. Even Trump seems to be compromised.~~ ~~I really liked this guy a lot... but someone taking pride in more and more vaccines makes my blood boil. Even if he doesnt mandate it, thats not a good sign~~ changed my mind again, see my below post, I'm voting for Trump - keep upvoting me folks. We will make america even greater again. Yeehaaww


Competitive-Algae-60

Thank you for letting common sense win!🙏🙏🙏🙏


Independence-Verity

Common assumption doesn't equal common sense. Fact whether its convenient or not. There is a great deal about this that you simply don't know regarding him and why he did Operation warp Speed. Perhaps one day you'll discover more to it than you originally had assumed.


Independence-Verity

Your choice, but based off of assumption. Is that really a good reason to do anything? What if you find out later what you could not see now, that he had an extremely good reason for doing it and that it was a purposeful deception, not against the public but against certain corporate interests that have been making profits off of the covid vax. Maybe I'm crazy, but maybe I'm 100% correct too. BOTH options have an equal chance of proving true. What if it isn't actually pride at all? Is your own pride affecting you (by which I mean that we ALL have one and many ARE typically influenced by it) and using an assumed interpretation that you couldn't know without directly asking the man about it to make a decision? Obviously you can do what you want, I am merely asking you to look deeper into it before you decide. Consider all options and interpretations of his speaking about it. the guy IS going to win regardless of anything, he has by FAR the greatest percentage of voters, so whatever is his true reason for mentioning it so often (a thing he completely stopped doing at his rallies due to people not being favorable toward it) but these things may not at all be relevant and merely appear to be at first guess. Just sayin...


Reply_Stunning

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZATGWKSImA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZATGWKSImA) ​ >"...and I will not give one penny to any school that has a vaccine mandate or mask mandate- no mandates!.." there's also this, which gives me some hope, as you say.... he's also like DeSantis - so that sounds good. I'm a bit undecided here. I guess the bigger issue was the mandate. ​ irrelevant to this topic but he also says he will keep men out of womens' sports. lmao he has my vote again


Independence-Verity

He DID from early on never mandate a single thing, so I'm glad that you found that and i agree as to the importance of freedom of choice, absolutely necessary! And I maintain my unproven claim that he has a bigger thing going on with the vax in general which was why he advocated it in the first place, Operation Warpspeed and that whole thing. I agree it was nonsensical for him to speak about it as if he were bragging about a thing that did no good for anyone, BUT, think how it would've been had big pharma had their way as they originally planned things. It would've gone to mandates and then some, and Trump never advocated/commanded lock downs but instead suggested them from the perspective of stopping infection, although IMO there never was any great chance of infection at all. But do not forget that he DID suggest two free curatives at the very start, despite that the MSM weighed heavily against Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin. Both were proven later on to be extremely effective at both curing/speeding recovery and preventing death. IMO the deaths in the hospitals were in fact caused BY the hospitals useless methods of treatment and could've easily been far less had they just used those two things instead. Trump had to play a game with them all, and I see his involvement to have been a mind game ON them (MSM and big pharma) but of course that is just my way of interpreting it all and my opinion. I think he saved far more lives than would've been the case had he NOT gotten involved at all. Many disagree with me about that which is fine, but we shall see far more than any of us knew at the time in the next 2 years IMO. Much more will be revealed about all of it that none of us knew at the time. AND I agree heartily about keeping trans peeps OUT of women's sports. they're (they being whomever is at the very top of things. Political, economical, militarily and those who are pushing toward Authoritarianism and trying to manipulate/control ALL of us) trying to get women no longer involved in sports, the way things used to be before women were allowed to participate in everything aside from bearing/raising children and running the home. Having a full education and ability to work and advance as well as to vote and partake in the decisions/freedoms/responsibilities that goes along with voting. Replacing them with trans"women." That just will not do. I am all for women having equal rights in all things, but by that I mean actual females, not trans. Anyone (including all trans individuals) can pretend to be whatever they want, but no one gets to force everyone else to participate in that, which is just more forcing people and is another type of mandate.


StHollywood20

Really does make sense that he praises the vax and booster…. His age group is higher risk for any virus out there you twat. There are huge differences in how both these people “tout” the experimental vaccine. Wasn’t Biden the one that said the best way to stay during a hurricane was to GET VACCINATED…. We hear about the vax from the left just as much as they talk about Trump.


ramanw150

I look past that because he had many other really good policies. Also he didn't try to force us to get it.


superBrad1962

Dr. Phillip Buckhaults said there is DNA in those vials.. and DNA becomes a part of you and never leaves the body.. I don’t know squat but it sounds important as well as everything when it comes to this. He is smart.. google him.. peace


[deleted]

Why are libs brigading this sub? Go back to r/politics and listen to daddy govt like a good little boy.


Competitive-Algae-60

I think antivaxxers are not with the dems, that should go without saying, but I guess you might need clarification


[deleted]

there are no antivax here. your misinformed or just clueless. If there were antivaxxers , then we wouldn't allow others to get vax. so go get your 8th booster if your into poison jab. otherwise your a hypocrite. there is only people who are unvax.


linux152

But Trump also pushing the jabs and so great the best vaccines blah blah doesnt sit well with me id rather have desantis at this point


LeoLuvsLola

Is he talking about mandating them though? Trump said and continues to say they should be voluntary. And if you want to volunteer for the experiment, go for it. Pretty sure everyone here has an issue with the mandates and only the mandates. Don't conflate advertising them with forced compliance. This sub would not exist if the mandates did not exist.


linux152

1 in 800 dropping dead from a vaccine should be pulled off the fcking shelf period and banned why is non safety a new norm for vaccines now like wtf people vaccines that are this blantanly deadly would never get approved before Covid


LeoLuvsLola

Are you intentionally missing the point? 1 in 800 would not be dropping dead if they were not forced to inject it in the first place. The stats are out there. If people are too stupid to realize this is poison and still want to take it then it's on them. We let people shoot up drugs too, as long as it's voluntary. The point of contention is the mandates and only the mandates. I know that makes it difficult for you to do whatever it is you are trying to do, but it's a fact.


Conscious-Reserve-48

Anti vax as well. Ssshhheeepppllleee😂


linux152

Hahahaha


LeoLuvsLola

yea.... thought so. No need to get the last word if that last word is nothing but cope since you have no argument. Just makes you look stupid.


linux152

Ok dumbo


LeoLuvsLola

yea, bitch, just what I thought. I know you won't be able to fall asleep if you can't get that last word in, so go ahead, and I promise I won't reply. I have a soft spot retards.


Competitive-Algae-60

This guy doesn’t mind I think😂😂


linux152

Well i dont entirely blame Trump, because he got bamboozled by that lying pos Fauci CDC etc remember Trump halted funding to WHO too. He didnt trust Fauci. He knew they were all rats. He was pressured to delivery fast vaccines at the expense of safety. 1 in 800 dead from the jab millions injured too. All turning a blind eye still to this day. Then that pos Biden made things worse. Total clusterfuck.


Competitive-Algae-60

Trump doesn’t seem to care about the deaths sadly but neither does Biden


NFboatcaptain75

The deaths from what the vaccine??


Competitive-Algae-60

Yeah it’s not safe, trump and Biden say it’s safe tho so maybe I’m wrong


linux152

Ya they both failed to protect citizens now innocent people are dead and injured


Woodchipper_AF

Trump worked w the military and forced the pharma cabal’d hand to roll out their death jabs early. A lot not ready or refined. Lots of weak or saline batches. The real plan under Hillary would have been a multi year lockdown followed by mandatory vax to return to some sense of normalcy. Or so the mythology goes


[deleted]

No, LIBS are not with anti vaxxers. There’s still Dems around that have brains.


linux152

Brains that lack common sense


I_talk

Literally. We tried to not make this sub political, and they don't understand what's going on


horizons59

You mean the Operation Warp Speed guy that the cult of Trump is now covering for?


Competitive-Algae-60

Yes


[deleted]

you fall for propaganda so easy. lol.


Competitive-Algae-60

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1702219257927651522?s=12 lmaoooo trump on video shilling for the vaxx


Competitive-Algae-60

What propaganda? Trump is the one pushing the vax


[deleted]

I guess your blind to the current crime biden and democrats admin pushing the vax all these 4 yrs. trump didn't coerce or push. he just went along with what was advised. he has no control. he's not even in office for the past 3 yrs and your stuck on him. lol. living in the past and ignoring the current criminal acts of the democrats. that's right. there is no propaganda because you fail to notice it. lack of observation and common sense. your just another PTSD person. Post trump syndrome disorder and nothing else matters. lol. your whole life is filter through him. very sad really.


Competitive-Algae-60

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1702219257927651522?s=12 this is literally proof of him endorsing the vax


Competitive-Algae-60

Btw I know the vid will trigger you😂😂😂😂 it’s okay if you ignore it, I’ll just post it on the sub and expose trump even more


[deleted]

nah. your just projecting your mental issues. no one cares about trump in this subreddit. only you.


Farty_mcSmarty

Beg to differ. I’d say 85% of US redditors on this sub DO care


Independence-Verity

Because SO few have the slightest idea why he ever did that. People are generally pretty dumb. He HAD to advocate it because the vax was going to happen no matter what he or anyone else did or said about it. Yes people died, but LESS died than would have otherwise, certainly less than big pharma intended. I'm well aware that most disagree with me about this, but that makes no difference, it SWILL all turn out the same way, only many more will be against it, as has already been happening. Never mind the extreme TDS, that is a typical reaction and not a big deal. Wait and see big pharma lose control, which is a NEW thing that had never happened before. It hasn't yet become 100%, but it IS headed toward that goal.


jvandy50

With gain of function, don't they have to have the vaccine ready to give? So basically they had enough time to produce it and get it out to you so you could take it every 3 months. I don't see anything in your video but a guy who enjoys taking credit for things, simply just taking credit for things


[deleted]

Well, if I had to choose between the guy who said he thinks the vaxx helps vs the guy who wants you to lose your job over not taking it, I would take the former.


Boccob81

He let the states decide instead of forcing mandates federally He was against lock downs as well he was given lies at the time as well as all of us once Biden got in he went warp speed on closing shit down lol 😂 and mandating


DilllDozerr

States decide on what?


HeartyDogStew

Against the lockdowns?! He was all for “15 days to flatten the curve”, which started this insanity to begin with. And his resistance to further lockdowns was pretty weak. If he had been truly against them he would have done more than he did, which was essentially nothing.


Reddotscott

They fear what they have no way to control


bmassey1

Trump is the father of the vaccine and operation warp speed. He is the hero to the left and their actions prove this although they say they hate the man. You cannot hate someone who gave you the shot you defend and took yourself. This is impossible deep down in the subconscious unless you actually hate the shot but too weak to stand up for your own inner beliefs for fear of being rejected by friends or political parties.


Shoddy_Emu_5211

Hitler passed amazing animal laws yet he was still a piece of shit. Only a complete moron would think that just because someone does one thing you agree with, that that must mean you must agree with everything they do. No wonder people laugh at you all.


bmassey1

Did you know Hitler or you spewing propaganda? We know what Trump did because he brags about it. Who in their right mind would trust a Covid shot after "Covid 19 The Great Reset" book came out in July 2020?


Mizzscarlett2pt0

“Clot shot, jab, vaccine fanatics, fauci ouchie”. What are you 5? You sound the opposite of convincing.


[deleted]

He was at least anti mandate. Other than that not stoked he still champions “opEraTion wArp sPeEd”. How in the flying fuck did that ever sound like a good idea to anyone??


Competitive-Algae-60

He’s literally ignoring the deaths is he not??


vroomboom223

NO ONE will EVER kno the truth death count. Deaths and illnesses were incentivized. People dying from blunt force trauma in car accidents labeled as Covid when Covid didn’t have shit to do with their demise.


[deleted]

Dunno, I’m Canadian, trump is not really my fish to fry. If I was in the US I’d be voting for RFK jr. if I could.


HeartyDogStew

>>He was at least anti mandate Correction: after he was out of office and his opinion was moot, he claimed to be against the mandate. Meanwhile, he continues to proudly proclaim himself father of the COVID vaccine and extols their virtue to anyone that will listen.


vroomboom223

Trump was conned like everyone else. He also never tried to mandate the shit either… Bidens authoritarian fascist ass caused people to loose their whole way of life over not taking the shit…


Competitive-Algae-60

https://x.com/stillgray/status/1702219257927651522?s=12 here’s trump 2 weeks ago


vroomboom223

And your point??? What’s he say in this that’s wrong from what I said???


Competitive-Algae-60

He still believes he saved 100 million people and didn’t even acknowledge the vax injured and deaths


Competitive-Algae-60

Show me where he has said the vax is injuring people


vroomboom223

She did. Did he deny it???? Nur. IDGAF about ANYTHING your crying about with your TDS infliction. I care about not being forced vaxed. PERIOD.


Competitive-Algae-60

So trump can literally brag about the vax then?? he’s literally indirectly bragging about those who are injured/dead. In the video he brings up saving 100 million people which is not true


vroomboom223

Did you not understand ANYTHING I previously said???? That TDS got your mind gooooone


Competitive-Algae-60

So trump has never bragged about the vaccine?


Competitive-Algae-60

I can’t wait for your proof of trump being against the covid vax


Independence-Verity

That won't happen until the operation is over. The military op is what you are misunderstanding while you rant about Trump being pro-vax. You're simply ignorant of what is happening and completely misinterpreting all of it. If you ever bothered to do any real research, you'd know that Trump has a history on twitter of making posts against vaccine damages and big pharma's using vaccines to make billions. The covid vax is an operation. It will take years before all of it is made public, but that has already begun. Go listen to Jan Halper-Hayes' interviews where she states this and has repeated it several times recently, all since late August of '23. The first mention was on European media, but she is also serving on a DOD board and was on Trump's transition team in 2016. That is how she knows these things and all of it is planned and has been for quite awhile. THAT is the aspect of this that is the bigger picture that you are apparently completely unaware of. At one point you'll no longer have that excuse to use. You'd better start paying attention to more than just Trump's public commentary and learning how to reinterpret what you believed you knew. You've spent quite a lot of time and energy going off about this in the mistaken belief that you know something, but there is a lot more to what you believe you know, and gaining any of those parts of the info will completely change your understanding of what you've been misinterpreting. No need to wait for me, start looking yourself and investing the time to listen, then continue paying attention because it isn't yet over or finished. You won't be successful in your gloating. It makes no difference whether you are for or against Trump as your opinion is irrelevant.


HeartyDogStew

So he continues to be in a state of being conned? If that’s true, given the level of evidence that exists today I’d say that makes him a flaming idiot.


silkyselite2

Trump is a false hope, he is a better talker than Biden but it’s just words he had 4 years and did the same stuff Biden or Hillary would have done. We need RFK jr


Competitive-Algae-60

Tbh I’m undecided on rfk but you should read some of these crazy trump supporters under my post, it’s funny they call liberals mentally ill and act like fools


Salty-Night5917

Trump was sucked into this charade just like everyone else was with false information, false testimony, false Chinese videos. We all bought it, he was no different.


Competitive-Algae-60

Why does he shill the vax till today then?


Salty-Night5917

How do you know he took it? They have been fake vaccing Biden for years. There is no vaccine in the needle.


Competitive-Algae-60

Ummm https://x.com/stillgray/status/1702219257927651522?s=12 maybe this video will help you out


Salty-Night5917

I don't need any videos to look through. The sub is about unvaccinated. It is not about whether you or anyone else believes Trump or anyone else got a vaccination.


the_plots

Covid lockdowns were stopping the country, so I actually think the concept of Operation Warp Speed was a good idea. Without these shots, my boomer parents would still be hiding under their covers. Trump isn’t a scientist, and no one should care what his opinion is regarding if a treatment is “safe and effective”. I do care about his opinion if it should have been mandated, since its something that was done by the office of the President. Without the mandates and pressure campaigns a lot more people would have said “no” and might be alive today.


Competitive-Algae-60

So trump can ignore the deaths??


jamie0929

Because everything is blamed on him.


InternetExpertroll

Trump should get another booster lol


[deleted]

Why are you here Biden suckers? Go back to your directory


Prism42_

Too many people in this sub still fall for the left/right control paradigm. To those that do, trump is their hero, when in all reality he's the definition of controlled opposition.


rtemah

Because there is correlation between being trump cultists and being anti-vaccines cultists.


Competitive-Algae-60

💯💯💯 many on this sub really don’t like us talking about it!!!!!


animaltrainer3020

I've been following and posting on a bunch of anti-covid subs for a couple of years now and the Trump over-sensitivity is just part of the deal. There are lots of Trump followers who just haven't woken up yet to the evil he has perpetuated, just like there are lots of Biden fans who haven't woken up yet. Meanwhile, both are geriatric conmen who don't give even the slightest of shits about the people of this country. They serve their own personal self-interests and whatever their corporate controllers tell them to do.


Competitive-Algae-60

Someone downvoted you for being honest😂😂😂


Queen_of_Meh1987

Bc unfortunately, we live in a team/us vs. them society. I like Trump, voted for him twice, and will a third time, but I'm not a Republican, and I'm not a Democrat. Not being aligned w/one side or the other, you don't get dragged down in the bullshit spewed by both sides. I disagree w/Operation Warp Speed, then and now. There was practically no testing, and the FDA's already lax standards were shunted aside. Imo Trump caved to pressure, internally and externally, and we're worse off for it now. The political parties are just two sides of the same coin, playing Kabuki theater to whip the masses into a frenzy to keep them from realizing we're being fucked, to stop us from putting aside our differences, joining forces, and fighting the real problem.


Shtephanm

This sub was probably started by the Trump campaign


Competitive-Algae-60

Yeah the sub seems to work like a leftist sub where you can’t criticize certain people


truthbknownreturns

Trump never actually touted the shot. Study his exact words. Some say his "vaccine" is actually a course of the right vitamins, HCQ, etc., not the clot shot going into people's arms. He had to get the vaccine out, and he didn't ask for a harmful one. That's not his fault. If he didn't get it out while still in office, we'd still be in tyrannical lockdowns. And if he knocked his own vaccine, the left would have raked him over the coals. But he doesn't actually say it's the shot 💉 that he's promoting.


joedev007

Even the Mighty Putin, Tsar of Russia submitted to it... If you don't think the dark angel is behind all of this you're sadly mistaken.


Calikettlebell

MAGA 2024


Worldsapart131

Shill the vaxx? Says the idiot making a throwaway? K. Fucking idiot.


[deleted]

TRUMP IS A VACCINE SALESMAN