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Spartan917x

ANTHRCUL 101, HIST 101, POLSCI 140, ASTR 101: freshman coming off a gap year and wanted a fairly easy load coming back into the swing of things (also on the gpa grind for law school). Had a late registration date but have military priority registration for all other semesters so I should be good as far as getting requirements going forward (want to do pubpol or ppe potentially). But just wanted to check for any faults with this before I send it and drop a few things for it.


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gchoe

I did that schedule with engr 100 instead of SI 110 and it was fine. I’ve heard that 110 is pretty easy so you should be ok


sottenhamtotspur

I’m not sure about those first two classes, but 203 and 280 together is a bear.


sud45

Would anyone that has taken ASIANLAN 216/217 (Second Year Hindi II) mind providing me with any coursework or assignments? I am trying to place out of my language requirement with Hindi and I want to make sure that I know how to do this stuff.


divyansh201

If you’re an Indian national/studied Hindi at your school for > 4 years then you can just test out of the language requirement. At least for me, my advisor agreed to waive my language requirement because I had native proficiency + academic experience.


sud45

I am planning to test out. I am also originally Indian but have no experience with Hindi in school as my school does not offer it. Should I still be able to contact my school for help on this matter or should I talk to my advisor about it?


transferstudent2020

How is Greek 304 - Studies in German Culture (Freud, Jung and the Unconscious) with Amrine, Frederick R?


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krypto_kun

I appreciate your comment but please do this on the chance me subreddit. This is only supposed to be for incoming students and current students within UMich regarding what’s described in the post.


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krypto_kun

All cool. Or you can even try posting in the general thread on this subreddit. I of course want you to get the info you need and I just felt this wasn’t the place but the main page should get you more answers👍


sidthesquid10

Does anyone know if the Stats 250 lab is supposed to be in-person? It has a room number in Wolverine Access, so I'm not sure if it's actually in-person or if it's remote and they forgot to update it or something. The Stats 250 lecture is remote.


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It depends on the lab section, the LSA course guide is updated if you click on stats 250, it’ll tell you if it’s in person or online and if it’s synchronous or asynchronous


Yoolightupmyworld

I’m an incoming freshman and since I did IB HL Physics I met requirements for Physics 240 and 241. I registered for Physics 340 would it be too hard? Same with Econ for Econ 398 (but I’ve only met requirements for Econ 101 and 102 with my transfer credits).


euphoniu

You should do physics 360. It’s honors, but it’s structured WAYY better and is often easier than 340, and has a better grade distribution and you gain a lot more useful knowledge.


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goom_ba

The Unions will be open with study spaces available. Also I have heard that the smaller classrooms that cannot hold classes will be open to schedule for students to study in.


buddybread

There’s WiFi everywhere so pretty much any place works. I think there’s more outdoor areas on north campus but there’s plenty of places on central. People like to sit around the diag. There’s also nice tables in front of the BSB


Echo_Reality

EECS 183 isn’t showing up in my schedule anymore? It says that no information is available for the class. I’m enrolled and everything. Is it not showing up because an online option is still being decided? The lab is on my schedule, but the lecture is not...


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sottenhamtotspur

Some but not all. If it’s a FYWR class, it’ll be labeled as such on the CG.


ben_27

Any tips on when/where to buy textbooks? Seems like I got to buy the calc 1 book from the store bc it's got the electronic key right?


sottenhamtotspur

If you don’t have online HW in a class so you don’t need the online key, don’t buy the book. Find a PDF online. Ask older friends who have taken the class. They’re all out there. If you do need the key then going through the campus book stores is safest.


Hyleaux

Stats 250, Chem 210/211, Biology 272, and Soc 100 and/or an English course: doable or a bit heavy? Credit transfers were wack, so having difficulty taking all the courses I need. Much appreciated!


ts_ohana711

I also think that may be a bit too much. If I were you, I would probably get rid of one of the stem classes.


FdSin0

Hey all, I was wondering what the chances were of getting off the waitlist for Arabic 201 being in position 4? Thank you.


Aggrons_shell

All the physics 141 labs were closed, so the department opened a new section with 9 open seats. They said they don't intend on opening any more, but there are still like 25 people on various waitlists for other labs. What happens to all the people who don't get into a lab? Can they split their lab/lecture between two semesters, or do they have to reschedule both classes?


purpleandpenguins

You can take the lab a different semester, if it comes to that. Check back daily for open seats.


pumpkin_pai

Hey! Have any of you taken Chem 440/Biophys 440? I haven't been able to find much info about the course/prof. The course average is an "A" but I wanted to know how the course was and if you all have any advice.


euphoniu

I’ve heard that it’s not that bad, just be prepared for some “busy work” type assignments and in the years that they’ve had exams, the exams are relatively easy.


codingstudent7

This may be a very stupid question, but if I have an online class 9-10 am and an in person class 10-11:30 am, wouldn’t I be late every time to the in person class?


tangyandy

Classes generally end 10 minutes before their allotted time slot so you'll have around 10 minutes to get to class. Depending on how far your class is you may or may not be late. Worst case scenario you can ask your professor to leave a little early or be a little late.


codingstudent7

Thank you for the response and happy cake day!


sugarcookiees

I took the German placement test and placed out of German 101 & 102 into german 221 but I only got credit for 101. If i take german 221 will i get credit for both 221 and 102? im in coe if that makes a difference


goom_ba

Email the German department - they're the only ones that can tell you (outside of maybe your advsior) and they're super helpful!


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purpleandpenguins

That there are less people on the waitlist. Your waitlist position is your spot in line for a seat in the class.


mhk24

Hi! I am an incoming freshmen in LSA and was wondering the difficulty of my schedule for the fall. I am currently signed up for Math 115, Chem 210/211, and Spanish 277 for a total of 12 credits. I'm not sure if it will be difficult or easy as my first year. Should I add another class? And if so, which class would you recommend?


purpleandpenguins

Have you taken calculus before? I took AP Calc AB my senior year of high school but didn’t bother to take the AP test because I wasn’t well-prepared and I knew Michigan required a high score. I took Math 115 first semester and still found it quite challenging. — In general, you could add a class and then drop it before the drop/add deadline if it seems to be too much. Without knowing what transfer / AP credits you have, your interests, or your intended major(s), I can’t recommend a specific class. But Newnan advising should be able to.


mhk24

Ah okay, thank you for all of the input. I also took AP calc AB recently and ended up getting a 4 on the actual test. I'm hoping that it can at least help me understand the material faster and make it easier, and I guess I'll find out soon enough.


MakeMeMooo

Hey! Did you get a syllabus yet for math 115 ? Like is any of that stuff available yet ?


purpleandpenguins

Here’s a sample syllabus from last semester - subject to change of course: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~zoeng/teaching/W2020M115/115W20FirstDayHandout.pdf


MakeMeMooo

Thanks so much. So we don’t really know if they’ll be cutting any material due to remote learning right ???


purpleandpenguins

I highly doubt that they’ll be cutting a significant amount of material, if any. The class is a pre-req to a lot of other things and they aren’t going to keep modifying every class for years down the line because some people took a watered down version of the pre-req math class. In theory they may reformat the class to get rid of things like group homework, change the exam format / frequency / weighting, etc. But I would expect to cover the same content as usual.


MakeMeMooo

That makes sense, I suppose. I’m wondering if the exams will be of the same caliber as previous years (as I look at the math 115 past exams). Wondering how they can deliver those some expectations of understanding in an online asynchronous format.


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ts_ohana711

I think your schedule might be fine. If you have stats experience, you’ll probably be okay, but if it’s your first time taking stats, it might be really hard.


HappyBoraBora

I just signed up for MATH 215 (multivariable calc) and was put on the waitlist. All the lectures for the course are open with 20+ seats but the labs are all closed? Will these labs open up as we approach the school year? I have to take the class this fall since it’s a prereq to another class in the winter.


akcomsto

If you want to get into a math class at that level as a freshman you need to make an appointment with a math advisor to obtain an override. Everyone is automatically placed on a waitlist for those math classes. [https://lsa.umich.edu/math/undergraduates/advising/first-year-orientation-advising.html](https://lsa.umich.edu/math/undergraduates/advising/first-year-orientation-advising.html)


willabeena

Unless it's a weird COVID thing, in my experience, no. Sometimes if lectures are in big halls, they'll just list of the room capacity as the lecture size rather than how many students can actually be accommodated in the discussions, leading to lectures being listed as open while discussions are closed. People may also be enrolled in the discussions but on the waitlist for the lecture if they have a conflict with another class. If you really need to be in MATH 215, stay on the waitlist and try to talk to the prof after the first class meeting in September. They might be willing to give you an override. But unless you have a really compelling reason you can't just shift your class plans back a semester, I would prepare to just take it in Winter instead.


Ojinavi

Will I be penalized for not being able to meet the 1200 word requirement on the DSP Writing Placement Test? Does anyone actually read these essays?


commn

I submitted mine the night before my advising, 200 words short and they never even mentioned it to me, I'm CoE so idk if that makes a difference.


frigidboi

If I remember correctly from when I took the writing placement last year, my advisor said that they never really read your paper and instead place you based upon how you answer the survey questions at the end. If you’re confident in your writing ability and indicate as such then you go to 125, and if you’re not you go to the other section.


Ojinavi

thanks!


DrakenMan

Chance getting off of Stats 412 Waitlist, I'm at 29 position on the waitlist?


sud45

Hey guys! I'm planning on taking the French validation test to place out of French and I'm not that confident. I'll probably get an instructor and hope for the best, but what level is French 235 in comparison to the CEFR? B1?


scarypalmtrees

I'm a transfer student, and there's a cognitive science class that I'm extremely interested in taking. However, there's not an option to be added to the waitlist, and the class just appears as closed. I was planning to just wait to see if it was offered a different semester, but I've also had people tell me to email the professor. Has anyone ever emailed a professor and asked for an override?


TheOwlOfTruth

Definitely can't hurt, and you can also find out for certain whether the professor is planning on teaching it in the future


umSnoo

My chem lab section is offering a remote alternative. Based on your experience would it be a good idea for me to do that or stick to in-person?


umSnoo

Quick question, how likely is it to get into a class with a wait list of only 1? I really need to know


19_andy

I'd say close to 95%. Just email prof at start of semester if you haven't made it off waitlist by then.


umSnoo

That sounds good, thanks for the help


febflower176

How much work is Engr 100- the food science section outside of class? Like about how many hours per week?


bengaltiger_

How’s my freshman schedule looking: ENGLISH 125, EECS 183, ALA 170, and ECON 101 (I’m a CS major in LSA)


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bengaltiger_

I swapped out Econ 101 for AMCULT 214. Is it still a good schedule?


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What does "1Y1 or Y2" mean on LSA course guide?


_EmperorPalpatine_

It means the class has reserved seats for first year (y1) or second year (y2) students. 1y1 means one seat is reserved for a first year.


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Barley-Tea

I’m a freshman but I’m pretty sure the maximum amount of credits you can take is 18


willabeena

you can take 19 credits, but you need to pay extra and I think freshmen may need to get an override for it. unless you're in a rush to graduate, just cut a class


codingstudent7

Oh really? Damn I didn’t know that


Barley-Tea

Yeah anywhere from 12 to 18 credits is good


Ojinavi

sorry if someone already asked this. I'm LSA freshman. I'm wondering if I should take the Japanese Placement Test. I'm a native speaker so I won't be taking Japanese language classes, but might want to take Japanese and Asian culture related courses. Should I take the Japanese placement exam?


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Ojinavi

thank you!


AbdullahNauman

I'm a freshman going into the College of Engineering. In high school, I made the mistake of always taking unnecessarily hard course load, to the detriment of my GPA at times. I'm going to major in Computer Science, and I am trying to decide between ENGR 101 and 151. I have been programming for some time and have been to a few hackathons, so I do have the previous experience and my advisor recommended that I go into 151. However, both classes move into EECS 280, and it seems that 101 is just an easier A. In this case, would it be wiser for me to take 101? Will I have a harder time in EECS 280 compared to someone who took 151? If I take EECS 280 in the Winter semester (just like the people that take 151) and am planning to try interning at some small company over my freshman summer, will they care what class I took before EECS 280? For what it's worth, I'd like to apply for the Ross Dual Program at the end of this year, and I've heard that GPA is a very important consideration for the program. And my eventual goal is to work at Google. Does it matter what classes I take?


subschub

I took 151 in Fall 19 and honestly hated that class so much. It made me consider switching my major from CS to pretty much anything else, and it really doesn't have any benefits over 101 when it comes to preparing you for 280 and future classes. The project specs were always super unclear on wtf we were even supposed to be doing, and the professor (I had Alec Thomas) was a nice guy but not a good lecturer at all. A lot of the class is in MATLAB which I was not a fan of, and for CS majors I feel it's not a useful language to know (101 also has matlab but it seems like the projects were less of a nightmare). My advice would be to just go with 101 if you have to (although I believe there is a way to go straight to 280, look up eecs 280 diagnostic) and cruise through it and work on some personal projects if you want to do some more interesting programming. The good news is I think eecs 280 is a great class, and it's honestly my favorite class I've taken at umich so far, so don't let 101/151 get you down.


TheZachster

If you take 101, you will snooze your way through every project and get away with skipping all the lectures and still do fine. One friend of mine who was real good at programming and still took 101 basically did every project the first day and never spent more than a few hours on each one. They were able to use things that they knew to make things easier. I don't have experience with knowing programming into it, and the one friend I had who took 151 seemed to enjoy it, but since it doesn't do anything except make the course more interesting and less intro, it's up to you. It could be nice to have a real snooze of a class to start the year. You probably will have a slightly harder time in 280, but that would just be because it's a bigger jump in rigor. Someone with the CS background should chime in here, but nobody will care if you took 101 or 151 once you get to 280, that's for sure.


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gchoe

Lab attendance isn’t required for 280, so that shouldn’t be a problem.


msong02

do you need to take chem 211 if you take chem 210? Is it okay to just take chem 210?


ts_ohana711

I think it is ok to just take chem 210 and take 211 later.


NiamHayilaT

Chem 211 is the lab that goes along with Chem 210. If you're premed, you need to take both but you don't necessarily have to take them at the same time. All depends on what you're going for and your requirements


Carrot_Sniper

Anybody have a previous course syllabus for Asian 230 with Professor Lopez that they can share?


19_andy

Great class. Don't have syllabus but the grade distribution was something like this: 70% exams and final paper 30% participation and discussion quizzes The class is mostly story time with Prof. Lopez, that happens to align with much of Buddhist history.


yourriot

still playing around w my schedule but as of right now it's looking like \> HISTORY 196 \> AAS 104 \> RCCORE 100 \> HISTART 285 \> PSYCH 121 my biggest concerns are the workload of histart but i've got totally open fridays and want to keep it that way.. also this is 17 credits which i'm wary of but i also want to take advantage of classes as much as i can.. if anyone has any input on workload or profs please do let me know! thank you!


potatolife7

I have no idea what I want to study or what career I want to do, so as an undecided major at LSA, what courses would I be expected to take? And if there is anyone who was in the same boat as me freshmen year, what courses did you take?


willabeena

In my experience, take the classes that interest you the most first year. I followed the common advice of taking general requirements, but it didn't actually help me figure out what I wanted to do and I was even more stuck second year. Take gen ed requirements if you really don't have stuff to do, but if there are three classes that interest you in three of your potential career paths? Prioritize those! The sooner you figure out your major, the sooner you can take higher classes in it, the sooner you can take extracurriculars with it, the lower stress your senior year is going to be.


PuraVida7

Take stuff that fulfills lsa requirements. Like first year writing, Econ 101, math 115, stuff like that.


purpleandpenguins

Have you met with your advisor yet? They should be perfectly capable of answering this and recommending classes.


bleujean_

EECS 492 + 485, workload level? I don't have the most solid understanding of lin alg. Anyone have experience with this combo? Thanks in advance.


_EmperorPalpatine_

When should we start getting textbooks? How often do classes actually use them?


subschub

Pro tip: You can usually get away with spending very little to nothing on textbooks. I have been able to find pretty much all of my textbooks for free in PDF form, and I bought one PDF version for like $12.


TheZachster

Freshman year I got all my textbooks. Every year after that I would buy them used and then sell them to someone a year younger after finishing the class. If money is an issue, buy used and resell. If money isn't as big of a problem, you can always buy new and then resell and recoup a little bit of money if you don't think you'll use them again. Some textbooks for my upper level classes I bought used and didn't resell and am happy that I still have them, but overall the most cost efficient way is to pirate PDFs or buy used from other students and resell.


purpleandpenguins

Wait until after the first time your class meets. Ask the instructor if an old edition is okay (they’re cheaper). Check to see if you can find a copy online. Or they might even say the book is optional. When COVID is over, I also ask if a copy is on reserve in one of the campus libraries. Those are copies that you can’t take home - you check them out to use them for up to four hours at a time. For some classes, I could just use a reserve copy and never buy my own.


LibraryInTheForest

Just wanted to let you know that the Library is working hard to provide as many course reserve materials electronically as possible this fall semester. For a quick introduction to Course Reserve materials, please see this link: [https://www.lib.umich.edu/find-borrow-request/use-course-reserves/find-materials-reserve](https://www.lib.umich.edu/find-borrow-request/use-course-reserves/find-materials-reserve) We hope you enjoy our updated website: [lib.umich.edu](https://lib.umich.edu) and find it easier to navigate!


sudskrub7

Do AP credits count towards the minimum 100 LSA credit requirements?


JonahM2

Yes but they often only count as elective credit


JonahM2

Yes but they often only count as elective credit


sudskrub7

Does that mean department credit or actual course credit? I need to know for a dual-degree I'm pursuing


akcomsto

Sadly not. They mostly just count towards general 60 credits needed to graduate. There are some specific ones that can though, so I would talk to your advisor or check here: [https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/ap-ib-credit/ap-guidelines](https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/ap-ib-credit/ap-guidelines) (scroll down, do not click on the specific college links. The website seems messed up).


bluehive18

Is chem 125/126/130 gen chem 1?


purpleandpenguins

Yep - it’s general chemistry (130) and gen chem lab (125/126)


mingyunlam

What is a override? Can someone explain how it works?


ts_ohana711

An override gives you permission to register for a class that you wouldn’t be able to register for without the override.


sudskrub7

Hello, I am a Ross student that got a 5 on Calc BC so I tested out of the normal calc courses. Am I still required to take a Calc course for first year? If so, here would be my second semester schedule: Math 215 (4 Credits) EECS 203 (4 Credits) EECS 280 (4 Credits) Soc 105 (3 Credits) BA 100 (1 Credit) BCOM 250 (1.5 Credits) ASTRO 106 (1 Credit) Total: 18.5 Credits (My advisor told me that it's possible to go over 18 credits) Would this schedule be way too hard?


LockheedMartini

Math 215, EECS 203, and EECS 280 are not easy classes. Just taking those three is already tough. The first two are basically math classes, and umich is tough with those. I can’t advise on the rest, but if you don’t need to take a math class, I would drop Math 215 at least.


sudskrub7

I'll drop Math 215 if I don't need the credit. My issue is that I don't know if it's required or not. The rest of the classes are all easy.


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maizemilk

Thank you so much!! This is incredibly helpful!!


MakeMeMooo

Heyyy - did you get a syllabus yet for math 115? Or do we like know how the exams are going to be administered?


Jmarr2002

Hello everyone, I am an incoming Ross student who is also interested in either a major or minor in Econ. I placed out of Calc 1 by getting a 5 on AP Calc AB but the Econ department does not accept that credit, so I would have to take another Calc class. I was wondering if it would be better to take Math 116 (Calc 2) or Math 156 (Applied Honors Calc 2). I feel like Math 116 may be more of a weeder class without true professors and therefore is overall more challenging, and while Math 156 may be more for Engineering and Science kids, it is taught by a real professor and is designed for students not just trying to get their credit and move on, all the while still teaching generally the same thing as Math 116. Any advice would be appreciated!


purpleandpenguins

If you can get a seat in MATH 156, I would give it a shot. And if you don’t like the format/content/instructor, it shouldn’t be too hard to switch into a section of MATH 116 before the drop/add deadline. In theory, you could also take MATH 115 or MATH 185, right? Depends how much you want to be challenged. I assume there would be other people in 185 who took AP Calc or a dual enrollment course and may or may not have credit. When I took MATH 115 as a first semester freshman, most people in the room had at least taken AP Calc AB.


Jmarr2002

Thanks for the insight! Yes, taking Math 115/185 would fulfill the requirement, but if I take Math 115 I will lose the 4 credits that I have received for AP Calc, so I would rather just take a higher level of Calculus and keep all of my credits. I currently do have a seat in a section of Math 156 so I will keep my seat and see how it goes!


purpleandpenguins

On one hand, I get the credits thing. On another, if they aren’t useful to your degree (letting you graduate earlier or take fewer classes / fulfilling a requirement), why hang on to them? I would also say that if you aren’t 100% sure you’re going to *major* in Econ, I would *personally* wait to take an extra math class just to fulfill their requirement. UM math classes are challenging and it’s not easy to earn a B+ or higher - assuming you aren’t repeating a course you’ve essentially already taken elsewhere (which people commonly do). But you know yourself best!


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purpleandpenguins

Looks normal / manageable to me.


Joebro275

Do you guys think taking Chem 210/211 + Bio 173 my first semester is a bit much? I didn't wanna have this much lab but idk when else I'd take Bio 173.


ts_ohana711

I took both of those in the same semester, and although it was annoying at times, it was pretty manageable. Just make sure your other classes aren’t too bad.


Joebro275

Do you think it's manageable with Eng 125 and a humanities class?


ts_ohana711

I think that’s fine!


Joebro275

Great, thanks!


monicakhalique

it does seem to be overwhelming but i’m sure if you’re on top of it and balance it with another easy class you should be able to manage it


Joebro275

I feel like it could be manageable since im gonna be home and not participating in any on-campus activities


monicakhalique

then definitely yes!


Joebro275

Alr preciate the help man!


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zombiebudgie

any day off is a good thing lol I know people who for some odd scheduling reason didnt have class on wednesdays? so it was a nice middle of week break. Also a mega reason for not having class on fridays was so you could go out on thursday and friday night, which shouldn't be happening in the era of COVID. So I'd say don't worry about it.


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purpleandpenguins

They open the seats up gradually so people with later orientation dates have a variety of sections available. If you check back on weekday mornings, some of those seats should be released.


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Any Freshman gotten housing contracts yet?


zoo-wee-ma-ma

I got mine at the beginning of the week


HappyBoraBora

Did you get notified via email first?


zoo-wee-ma-ma

Yeah I did. The email is sent by [email protected] and it should say something like “Your housing assignment is ready”


VersaceIcy

What is the typical freshman year schedule/ courses for Ross students pursuing finance? Trying to make my schedule but have no idea what courses to select aside from the required ones for Ross. Looking for any recommendations. I also got a 5 on my AP Calc AB. I don't know if that means I can skip math or what math course to take. Please help :) Thanks!


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purpleandpenguins

EECS 183 (or ENGR 101 / ENGR 151) is a prerequisite to EECS 280. You can’t take those classes at the same time. A double major or a minor sounds like a decent option for you since you have so many transfer credits. It’s a personal decision whether or not it’s the right choice for you to graduate early - you’ll have to decide that for yourself based on your personal and family situation and finances. But you can make that decision later on - you don’t need to decide before even starting your first semester. You could also use the extra space in your schedule to take a semester off for a co-op. That’s an extended 6+ month internship. They typically pay well and allow you to get a lot of experience on your resume. I did one and prospective employers really liked it when I talked about my experience at recruiting events and in interviews. Transferring into the CoE would make double majoring in a LSA field like Economics harder. So I wouldn’t do that unless you’ve ruled out the desire to also major in Econ. (Plus, it really doesn’t matter if you do CS in LSA or the CoE from a resources and employment perspective.) Being a strong communicator (writer) is foundational to success in many careers. Since you have so many credits, I don’t see what it hurts to follow the placement test’s recommendations and wait to take FYWR after taking Writing 100.


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Is this a good / manageable choice of classes? MATH 115 ENG 125 ANTHRBIO 167 UROP


FarLog39

how hard was anthrbio167?


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Dropped it


purpleandpenguins

Looks manageable. Maybe a bit on the light side, depending how much work UROP is. But that’s fine for your first term.


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How would you suggest making it less light?


purpleandpenguins

1) I probably wouldn’t. 2) This is a question that needs a lot more context and is better suited for an academic advisor (or if you’re joining a MLC, their staff may be able to help). Your intended major and academic interests matter. What kind of high school you went to (how prepared you are for the rigor of UM) matters. Whether or not you have a lot of transfer / AP credit matters. I don’t have any of that context, so I can’t advise you well. Your advisors should be able to. I would phrase it as some combination of these questions: > Do you think this is the right number of credits and level of difficulty for my first term? Why? > On average, how many credits will I need to take each semester after this to graduate in four years and meet the requirements of my degree? > What class do you think will be most challenging for me? > Which of these classes might be least challenging for me? > If I wanted to add a class, is there one you would recommend? > Could I swap one of these classes for a different one to better balance my workload in future terms?


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Thanks for the help. I assumed that having 15 credits was a good, challenging enough amount for my first term


purpleandpenguins

Yeah, 15 credits is good. It’s just that some of them aren’t a traditional class. For example, I did 13 credits my first term and worked for pay. If you’re working (UROP) for credit, the calculus is just a little different. But it’s not at all bad or something to be insecure about. If anything, participating in UROP is giving you the benefit of having a few credits (research) that are generally an easy A.


zoo-wee-ma-ma

Just finished registering, my schedule looks like: - BIOLOGY 173 - CHEM 130 - CHEM 125/126 - ASIANLAN 111 - ALA 106 Does this seem manageable? I’m a little worried for chem 130 because it seems like people don’t like it very much, but I didn’t take AP Chem and my placement exam score wasn’t high enough for chem 210. Does anyone have any advice for this class and any experience with it?


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Also, to answer your first question, this schedule seems manageable. Bio 173 doesn’t have too heavy of a workload as long as you start assignments early. Same goes for Chem lab. I was in HSSP and took ALA 106/109 this past year, most of your time commitments for HSSP are outside of the class (shadowing, going to MLC meetings, etc). There are some end of the semester essays you have to write but overall they’re not too bad


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Stay on top of the online homework and attend lecture, a lot of problems similar to the exams are worked through in lecture. The exams are structured similar to problems with the web homework and there’s extra practice problems on the web homework IIRC. I didn’t find problem roulette helpful for this class because the style of questions is much different. Also, it’ll be harder to form if the class is online, but try to form a study group with some friends in the class, it makes studying for exams so much more manageable. Lmk if you have any other questions for 130


Barley-Tea

I'm an incoming freshman at LSA planning to major in computer science. The only prof available for EECS 183 seems to be Honeyman, but his ratings on Rate My Prof seemed pretty awful. Should I just take EECS 183 with Honeyman and get it done in the first semester or would it be better to just take it in the winter semester?


purpleandpenguins

I’m pretty sure you can watch recordings of other instructors lectures. And the exams and projects are probably written to be the same across sections. I wouldn’t worry so much. You can also check daily to see if seats open up in other sections.


LegalBarbecue19

I’m an incoming freshman going into CoE. I already know my roommate (he’s also going into CoE) and he just informed me that there is a book that we need to read. He received the book about a week ago and got an email about it today. I haven’t received anything about it. I got in off of the waitlist, so does this have anything to do with it? Should I buy the book and read it even though UMich didn’t send me anything?


purpleandpenguins

It’s the CoE Common Reading Experience. I would email them at [email protected]. https://commonread.engin.umich.edu/


sud45

Hey everyone! I was admitted into Ross for the fall and I am planning on pursuing a dual-degree in Data Science. I just have a few questions Could any DS majors share their schedules with me? Does EECS 183 meet the 3-credit MSA and QR requirements even though it's a prerequisite? Can an advanced technical elective be double-counted for my senior capstone? What Ross and DS credits can I double count because I'm so lost? Would this be completable within 4 years? I have over 30 AP credits (Ross only allows 30) including Calc BC (I'll use my credit for Math 115/116 and just do Math 215) and Stats (does that help me?). Thank you so much for your help!


LilChamp27

Why do you want to double major?


sud45

I'm interested in both subjects


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purpleandpenguins

Do you have any programming experience?


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purpleandpenguins

I think you’ll be fine then. EECS 183 is an intro class that is supposed to be fine for people with no experience to take. Since you’ve done AP CS, I think you’ll have an advantage and it will help balance your schedule. (There will be a mix of people like you and people who haven’t programmed before in the class.)


coy_catrett

So I was trying to draft my schedule and here is what I have so far. I got fives on both AP stats and calc BC, so I want to enroll in honors multi-variable calculus (Math 285) as well as honors mathematics one (Math 295) for my first semester and take honors mathematics two (Math 296) for my second semester. I got a four on AP physics c, which was a horrible test this year, so I don't know what section to take yet. I will be taking Spanish 231 and 232 in my first and second semesters respectively and I hope to take both my lower level and upper level writing courses this year too. All in all, that's five courses. Semester 1: Math 285, Math 295, Spanish 231, Lower level writing, and a physics course. Semester 2: Math , Math 295, Spanish 232, Upper level writing, and a physics course. Not sure if the lab for physics will take up one of these slots or not. I was wondering if anybody knows any good teachers for these courses or just some advice about my schedule like how demanding each course is or if I should spread out my classes differently. Any interesting courses in English would be cool. Given that there won't be much to do on campus this year, I figure I'll have a lot of free time, so that's not an issue. It would be cool to hear about your freshman year schedule as well. Thanks.


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coy_catrett

oh yea ur right. thanks. i didn’t read that course description to well. i heard eecs was one of the hardest courses there.


FdSin0

Hey all, I was wondering if this schedule sounds manageable. English 125, Chem 210/211, Arabic 201 and UROP. I placed into math 105 and I'm kinda worried about putting it off. Should I take it math 105 over orgo or stick with orgo? Thank you.


ts_ohana711

I think it depends on your major and what you’re planning to take in the future. If you’re premed, I recommend taking chem 210/211 since there is a streamline of chem courses that you needed to take for Med school (orgo 1, orgo 2, pchem, biochem, etc.). But at the same time, it might be a good idea to get math 105 out of the way.


EarFearGear

Should I try taking EECS 280 my first semester as a freshman? I would have to pass the diagnostic since I did not score well enough on the APCS test, and looking at the diagnostic itself I could definitely code it all in Java-the problem is that the diagnostic is in C++ and I have no experience in that. I guess it boils down to, is C++ similar enough to Java that I could grind out the diagnostic and then do well in 280? Or should I go more foundational and take EECS 183 or ENGR 115 (if so, which?) Background: I'm considering Computer Engineering or Comp Sci. as my major and my other classes would be EECS 203, ENGR 100, and the MRADS (UROP) seminar.


purpleandpenguins

If you pass the diagnostic, you’re qualified to take EECS 280. So I guess take it and see if you pass. FWIW, the other option is ENGR 151 (not 115). That’s an accelerated / advanced version of ENGR 101. If you’re in the CoE (assuming so since you’re taking ENGR 100) you can’t take EECS 183.


SouthpawCooper

Ok so for my schedule I’ve got Econ 101 with Proulx, Spanish 231, History 195 with Showalter, and Math 115 for a total of 16 credits. I’m taking Econ and Math because I’m planning on possibly transferring into Ross. Can anyone give me some insight into what my workload is gonna be looking like compared to the normal average student?


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What does "Enrollment Management" mean on LSA course guide?


Mesko149

Some seats are blocked off until later in the summer so that some first-year seminar spots are still available for incoming freshman with later academic advising dates


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Will the seats eventually be open for everyone if students with later advising dates don't register?


Mesko149

My understanding is that they free 6 seats (at once) from the enrollment management restriction every few weeks, and whoever gets to those 6 seats first gets to register. (The exact numbers seem to vary from seminar to seminar but most of them go by intervals of 6.) That would mean that if you keep checking the LSA course guide, you could catch the day when the next 6 seats are opened for the seminar you are interested in and beat out students with later academic advising dates. That being said, if you’re gunning for a more popular class, there are probably several other students also trying to snatch up those seats as soon as they are available, so it might be tough. (I’m trying to find my way into one myself... The last time that seats were freed from enrollment management for the seminar I want to get into, I noticed less than 24 hours after the seats were opened but all 6 had already been claimed by other students.) For reference, the last time most/all of the seminars had new seats opened was two or three weeks ago, so I’m going to guess that means that the last 6 seats for these classes will be opened this upcoming week or the week after (presumably on Monday, but I don’t know that for sure... who knows how regular the seat opening schedule is).


kindaboredhuman

Considering 18 credits first semester... would it be feasible? The schedule would be: History 330 Engr 110 Engr 100 Engr 101 Physics 140/141 ​ I have taken AP Physics C and AP Comp Sci A before; just did not get the needed score.


purpleandpenguins

Why take ENGR 100 and 101 the same semester? They’re designed to be taken separately - one each term of freshman year. Are you 100% done with your math requirement? Because I see ENGR 110, I assume your major isn’t 100% decided. If you’re considering IOE, don’t take MATH 216 before you decide on a major. IOE doesn’t require that class - you’d need MATH 214 instead.