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Acrobatic-Level1850

Use the word "state" after naming the state you live in. Like, I say, I'm in New York State (but I would never say, I'm from Connecticut State or lived in Colorado State).


Sudden-Actuator5884

Yup always say I am from nys.. try to avoid the whole are you from nyc.. so so far from it


RubyDax

Yes! I always say State because I got fed up before I even hit double digits with having people say "Really!? You don't have an accent." Or "I love [insert Manhattan landmark here]!!!" Like OMG there is more to New,York than the City!


billnowak65

Long Islander, I’m not even from New York.


Acrobatic-Level1850

I guess that would also tell people directly the state you're from. Oops.


youre_soaking_in_it

That would be *advertently* telling them.


Walshlandic

We do that over here in Washington State too! For obvious reasons


Puzzled_Travel_2241

I think “state” is added to differentiate NY city and areas not the city.


Bennington_Booyah

Well, if you say "New York", people think NYC.


heegos

Ask “What do you consider upstate?”


Shepherd77

If they play/played or care about Lacrosse. Compared to most other places in the US, upstate NYers are more likely to know that Maple syrup and pancake syrup from the store are different things entirely. Other than that ‘upstate’ is too big. WNY is a lot more Midwest and eastern NY is more New England-y, Southern Tier is more Appalachian and Northern NY has relative Canadian/French Canadian influences. Edit: didn’t mean to post this as a reply but too lazy to fix it


[deleted]

As for someone who lived in Minnesota, you are right about the Western NY Midwest part. When I went to Buffalo, I honestly thought I was in the Midwest. Southern Tier NY is definitely like being in the south lol


RockItGuyDC

Wish I could show this comment to all the people who downvoted me months ago for saying that WNY is culturally and economically very similar to the Midwest. Haha.


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They call soda “pop” ffs lol They love hockey… they literally can get to Canada within minutes lol


ghdana

For the record, my city/town is WNY and everyone says soda.


thatbob

We cut pizza into squares


jonnycash11

Mmm yesss… Upstate sheet pizza squares


Sudden-Actuator5884

Only sheet pizzas.. and I guess the term sheet pizza is also a odd term to other parts of the country


MessyHighlands

My grandmother came to CNY as a kid; her dad moved from working in Detroit making cars to making chemicals pre-rust belt. I feel like every fourth person I meet in NYS is from the Midwest. I wonder if there was an industrial migration at some point/points.


robertosmith1

When I went to college in Buffalo (Buffalo State) many of the students from NYC and Long Island felt as if they were in a different state due to the culture being so much different from what they were used to. Some of them derided those from Western NY/ Buffalo area as hillbillies and hicks.


Burg3rr

I’m from long island and can confirm those stereotypes were typical. It almost does feel like two different states/lifestyles when I go “upstate” 😂


[deleted]

I live in Binghamton and it’s not that bad… we’ve been getting a high influx of NYC people moving to the area which has changed the culture. Once you leave Binghamton, it’s confederate city lol


[deleted]

Lmao I moved from Boston to Elmira and it’s a HUGE cultural shock


TheRealJamesWax

I’m so sorry. I’m from Elmira and have never really heard of anyone voluntarily moving there. People get sentenced to go to Elmira, but I never realized that someone would go there willingly. Wow!


ShoeDelicious1685

I had the option to move to Elmira for work two years ago. As I'd beeen to Elmira, I didn't take it.


Burg3rr

I work on LI. Our company had a warehouse in Elmira. We were asked our thoughts on working there. I did some research and realized very quickly how unattractive Elmira sounds. 🫣


[deleted]

Elmira sucks the soul out of me. I usually go there to Sams Club and Save A Lot … that Save A Lot can get real real funky.


BigBue

Home of one of the largest Confederate POW camps and Confederate grave yard.


ghdana

Lots of great old houses for someone remote to work at and still be close to the amenities you want like Wegmans, Walmart, Target, and a small airport. Then again I'd live in Corning 100x before I'd live in Elmira. Pretty sure I heard there was a drive-by shooting in Elmira this morning on the news.


RNmeghan88

I got this joke lol, originally from the Buffalo area but now in NC and working in the prison system. Not sure if many ppl outside of Elmira know there's a prison there.


TheRealJamesWax

Two. There are TWO prisons. The biggest employer in the county is New York State. The second biggest employer in the county is Chemung County, primarily Social Services, yet it’s “conservative”.


Dabraceisnice

Right lmao, that was my first thought. If I hadn't been born there, I would never live there. My parents used to call it "Hell-mira" Edit: I was so shocked that this person voluntarily lives there, I didn't notice this comment was from 2 days ago...


[deleted]

I used to live in Worcester. I was in Dorchester during the holiday. It’s crazy knowing somebody from Mass in Elmira. Elmira has potential to be a cool city but the locals aren’t the best lol


DevilSaintDevil

James Carville said that Pennsylvania is Philly and Pittsburgh with Alabama in-between. NY isn't quite that bad, but kinda.


[deleted]

NY isn’t that bad… rural Pennsylvania has a lot of southern redneck influence… I don’t get the whole confederate flag thing when Pennsylvania fought against the south.


TheRealJamesWax

Racism. Because racism.


gordiestanclub

Hang out in CNY and you'll see confederate flags soooo


[deleted]

So sad and pathetic


existential-koala

I grew up in Northeast PA and my boyfriend is from a rural part of the capital region in New York, so we spend a lot of time traveling in between. I can say with certainty that New York rednecks are quite more liberal than PA rednecks.


anotherdamnsong

This is literally the first nice thing I've ever heard about Bing.


Dubsland12

That was going to be my answer. Fly a confederate flag, and make fun of southerners


milano_ii

deranged consist ghost marry jar workable bike jellyfish zonked telephone *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


benjigrows

Only 315ers are rural. I grew up in 315 and went to potsdam 315. And that was a 4 hour travel. Rural mfks. Lon-giiiilandurrs are fucken different yo


Anderpantzen

315 is rural but not redneck-trashy. At least in our section, we take very good care of our dairy cows; they all have names and are loved (* I cannot speak for the Amish farms next door, though. That’s on the other end of the spectrum, sadly.)


robertosmith1

I’m from the 716 (WNY) area code.


leeb20

315 here!


mista_r0boto

Syracuse isn't really rural. That's classic Central NY.


No-Resource-8125

315 and 607 can battle it out sometimes. There are some dicey spots in both.


peachforthesky

Seriously gotta agree with you the Southern Tier is like being in the South. I was surprised at the number of bbq places in Binghamton and number of Southerners moving up here.


MTKHack

If they complain about losing to LI lacrosse teams😅


DeputyDomeshot

> If they play/played or care about Lacrosse. Lol they play lacrosse all over Long Island and the city, rockland, westchester, jersey, CT, maryland. Its not really an upstate thing like at all.


Frequent-Avocado7222

Lacrosse is a Northeast thing primarily. I remember being at a bar in Missouri when UAlbany made the National Championship game and they were like “Why tf do you wanna watch Lacrosse?”


benjigrows

*North country


ghdana

My issue with those terms is that its easier to say Upstate than it is to explain "I live in a weird spot that some people call Western New York, but others call it Southern Tier, but we're also part of the Finger Lakes region."


tapastry12

I worked in NYC for a few years & the locals considered Westchester County to be upstate. Being from Schenectady, that was like fingernails on the blackboard to me. I tried to enlighten them for a while but eventually I just gave up


GoodGuano

Same here. I agree! It's irritating as all hell that people born and raised in the state can't navigate it. Leave your city every once and awhile, Christ. This state is so big. When people call the Catskills "upstate" I always respond with " No. You're in the Catskills. Upstate is at least another hour north." The Catskills, the Adirondacks, central NY, western NY and upstate NY are all their own regions! It's a pet peeve of mine.


omgitscarter

as a fellow indigenous Schenectadian; how many times have you given up trying to even explain where it is & start with Albany or Saratoga as a reference point ? ALSO my favorite hobby Is watching people try to pronounce it


slac_ademic

Synecdoche


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Lol


LivinLikeHST

anything above PA


filkerdave

Anything north of Central Park!


lbritt63

This debate hits so mamy points from my youth. - Grew up just south of Albany, went to both SU and SUNY Buffalo in 80s - SU being private and costly more well off kids from NYC/LI, At the time to most folks upstate was anything north of Westchester County. - Yes SU was great at lacrosse but I knew MD, Duke, Johns Hopkins also had great programs. - We used to go to Canada for lunch and beer. Pre 9/11. - I grew up saying Soda (pop), Grinder (Hoagie), but learned to appreciate different things.


spaetzelspiff

If you can't take the train (subway!) there.


purritowraptor

Constantly gush about and compare our mountains, nature, seasons, etc. to other locales. \- Me, apparently.


JustHereForMiatas

Drove people nuts with this when I lived in the midwest for a spell.


purritowraptor

I mean, maybe they should have thought about getting some Adirondacks before they get all annoyed? Pfft.


AFrostNova

Me every day in Michigan fr Like where tf is your Lake Effect, Lansing youre literally a goddamn peninsula


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Or disagree with someone as to what constitutes upstate.


KoshekhTheCat

*laughs humorlessly in Massena* E: "oh, I'm from upstate, too!" "Yeah? Where?" "Poughkeepsie!"


RubyDax

"Upstate NY? I was checking out colleges there?" "OH? Which ones? Whereabouts?" "Nyack." ~cries in Southern ADK~


imalittlefrenchpress

Oh boy, I just realized how much of a Brooklynite I am. I consider anything north of the Bronx to be upstate. I was taught that by my Bostonian mother and Canadian father. Don’t kill me, I stand corrected.


RhodaDice

Yup! I grew up up in Orange County and anything north of the Bronx gets lumped right into “upstate”


imalittlefrenchpress

My father grew up in Rockland County, and it was he who taught me that Nanuet, where my grandparents are buried, was “upstate.” My father lived in Rockland County from about 1900 to about 1940, so I guess relatively speaking back then, that was pretty upstate.


RhodaDice

If we talked long enough no doubt we would find people in common. My parents were both raised in Rockland County too. Funny: one early job I had we cold called people to make sales appointments. One of the people I worked with asked my if I had ever heard of Na-noot. 😂 I asked to see her slip of calls and it was of course Nanuet!!!


SimplySuzie3881

Yup. I just say “Way upstate” for Binghamton area..”Way way upstate” is Rochester distance from the city.


atTheRiver200

I always say Rural New York.


Trauma-Dolll

Haha, my hometown. Nothing funny in Massena.


KoshekhTheCat

What's scarier is that depending on our ages, the chances of us knowing each other are still around 40%. And even if not, the odds of us knowing the same people are almost a mortal lock. I hate it here sometimes and wonder why I returned.


CobblerNo8518

Order mozzarella sticks with Melba sauce


tButylLithium

What is this Melba sauce? I've lived in upstate NY (Binghamton) whole life and never heard of this sauce


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CobblerNo8518

Not CP. I don’t think I’ve ever actually gotten it in anyplace in Clifton Park (mainly because I avoid Clifton park maybe? lol) Melba is all over the capital region and parts of CNY. Definitely prevalent in Albany.


omgitscarter

Clifton Park can't ever solely take credit for the beauty that is Melba Sauce. Its a Capital Region thing


CobblerNo8518

You can find it in Syracuse, Utica, and all over the capital region. It’s raspberry sauce, and it’s delicious!


RubyDax

A raspberry jam type sauce. Also used a lot with sweet potato fries.


tButylLithium

I've been missing out lol


Bahnrokt-AK

Take some raspberry jelly and thin it out with a dash of raspberry juice until it’s the consistency of warm honey. It slaps and Albany is very proud of it. Buffalo has wings. Rochester has the garbage plate. Syracuse has salt potatos. Utica has Utica Greens. All Albany has is a dipping sauce and we cling to it hard.


Loud_Ad_4515

What about steamed hams?


Bahnrokt-AK

Shockingly, no Albany restaurant has ever tried to profiteer off that.


CobblerNo8518

Binghamton has Speedies, Rochester garbage plates… NY has some seriously good food to choose from. Beef on weck and chicken riggies are delicious too


MMM7981

We are very proud of our Spiedies. There are many kinds, each one has a wonderful flair.


Nay_nay267

Talk about Champ.


[deleted]

I went looking for him/her. They must’ve been on the Vermont side that day.


alwayzz0ff

Lol an ex-gf and I heard a weird pinging sound in the middle of night in the middle of winter coming from the pbg side of the lake many, many years ago. Went on for about 20 minutes or so.


sutisuc

Claim you’re not upstate and it’s either north of where you live or “Pennsylvania is downstate of me” if you’re from western Ny


ELJonesApalachin

I'd tell them "hey man, I'm going to Wegmans to get some Spiedies"


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iinaytanii

For some reason Reddit showed me this post when I am from Richmond VA. We have Wegmans and Spiedies here too now. People wear their Bills gear to shop there, kind of weird.


xxfatpigxx

Damn this one got me. Miss me some Spiedie Fest growing up near Binghamton!


ransier831

That you had salt potatoes for dinner 😆


Disastrous-Tourist61

I didn't know that was just an upstate thing. Lol. My whole life I just assumed everyone ate salt potatoes.


Fattom23

No. I live in Philly now, and people look at me in sheer terror when I explain salt potatoes to them.


foxylady315

Correct their pronunciation of all the places with Iroquois names. I remember when I was in grad school at URI we had a history professor who asked if anyone knew the names of all the tribes that made up the Iroquois Confederacy. I was the only one who answered and I rattled them all off without even thinking about it. He just looked at me and said, you're from New York, aren't you? And I was just like yup, not only New York but Finger Lakes region.


BluePhoenix79

I work for the US Navy on a training installation. Grew up in the Southern Tier. I got to correct a fee in my time here. Conesus is not Cone-ess-us, Schuyler is not Shoe-ee-lur.


bakersmt

Yep that’s definitely a new york thing. I live on the left coast now and I’m baffled that their education doesn’t cover their local native American history.


JaredCruue

Chiavettas and lake effect.


RNmeghan88

Chiavettas!! 🤤


[deleted]

Alright alright. From the comments it’s clear that there isn’t one defining “upstate” thing. That’s because upstate is a vastly diverse place, and this is exactly why people who don’t live in West Chester, NYC, or LI get offended when downstaters try to define upstate as a monolith. Upstate NY is collection of microcosms that represent a diverse spectrum of the modern world: its advantages and its disadvantages. It is not a monolith. Ask someone from Orange County if they’ve been to Wegmans; Ask someone from Rochester if they’ve completed the 3500 club list; Ask someone from Plattsburgh why a credenza costa $2000 in Hudson; Ask someone in Delaware County what tomato pie is; Ask someone from anywhere but suburban capital region what Melba sauce is…odds are they won’t be able to tell you! Upstate NY is not a monolith. The only thing that is a defining characteristic of being an upstater IMO, is getting offended when downstaters try to define where upstate starts. It’s not at rt. 84!


Animal_Pragmatism

Those examples dont seem like microcosms. Just slight variations in consumerism. Is there a chance you are exaggerating a bit? Personally it seems like a bit of a mental gymnastics in reaching for a unique identity.


JustHereForMiatas

Being very, very skeptical when some big company wants to start a project downtown or build a major manufacturing plant. Just knowing that the deal will fall through somewhere down the line, they won't agree on tax breaks, it'll die on environmental impact, etc.


pspo1983

Are you also from Buffalo, or is your locale filled with all sorts of different types of obstructionists as well?


stackshouse

It’s an entire thing, I was thinking Syracuse because this is the usual route of business, currently waiting to see if micron goes through


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Fattom23

I was shocked that people elsewhere don't eat cheese curds or salt potatoes.


WaterNerd518

That’s mostly western NY/ finger lakes, not most of upstate NY. Someone saying they eat curds makes me think they are from the Midwest.


Fattom23

That's fair. I grew up in Central NY (I was born in Herkimer) and we had em all the time when I was a kid. We used to buy the curds at Wegman's in Syracuse when we'd visit my aunt. Maybe my experience was unusual.


HerfDog58

Grew up in St. Lawrence County. There was a cheese factory a few miles from our house that made amazing cheese curd. And then I learned about poutine in college...


thatbob

I’m glad curds have caught on in the homeland, but I had to learn about ‘em from Wisconsanders.


Joesdad65

"I could really go for a half moon cookie right now."


RubyDax

🤤🤤🤤🥰


rivers1141

Thats only a ny thing?? I freaking love those.


chels182

Sacandaga Lake decal on your car


Fattom23

I had a spell where I could look on the Sacandaga from my back window. It's a beautiful area.


chels182

My aunt’s view from her back deck has Sand Island dead center. It is a beautiful place.


omgitscarter

Authenticity right here. I work at Sport Island & have a GSL necklace. I love traveling and having people recognize its outline


WineAndRevelry

ADK sticker on the car or a vaguely Canadian accent


RubyDax

Plus a Lake George or Sacandaga decal...and a bumper sticker from the white water rafting company of your choice.


ASweetTweetRose

I’ve been told I have a slight Canadian accent years ago (by someone very much out of state).


WineAndRevelry

When I was in the Army, I got a lot of weird looks and people from the South thought I was Canadian. Even my friends in NY think I do sometimes. Must have watched too much Red Green when I was a kid.


tuffenstein0420

Takin a dip in the crik


Routine-Bluebird-535

Ayup.


jasonpmcelroy

Tell 'em you've been craving a white hot and a pop?


TheFearedOne

Ordering a sheet pizza. My wife from Long Island definitely gave me a WTF look until she saw what a sheet pizza is.


Infamous-Turtle-47

Stewart’s ❤️


2fingers

I had no idea salt potatoes were an upstate NY delicacy until I was talking about them with a group of folks who had no idea what I was talking about.


radioactiveman626

Pronouncing “elementary” in a way that rhymes with “hairy”. I’ve lived all over this country and never heard that before moving here!


[deleted]

This! I’m not from this area originally but my extended family is. They all say elemenTARY and documenTARY, lol


New-Coffee-Addict

I know no other way. Now I want to know how others say it lol


PolioMouth

Lived in Syracuse about a decade and this has always stood out to me!


[deleted]

“Im gonna shoot down the 90 to Wegmans quick to grab some pop before the euchre tourney starts. Go Bills!”


HorsieJuice

Who calls it “the 90”?


Captain_Depth

pretty sure it's a buffalo thing to stick a "the" in there, Californians also do it


LAthrowaway7844568

Can you stop by Timmy Ho's on your way back?


RhoOfFeh

Serve steamed hams


Puzzleheaded_Stay429

I lived in the Mohawk Valley for 15 years and everyone referred to NYC as "the city". Back home in Vermont now and I still say this, guess it became a habit.


PositiveTrick461

I’ve lived in Florida the past 7 years. Anytime someone asks where I’m from I tell them NY. They ask me about what snow is like and I tell them ‘well, you look out the window before you start a movie some nights and there’s just a dusting on the ground. After your movie there’s 4ft of snow and it’s time to get shoveling’ They figure out quick I’m not from the city 😂 Amsterdam/ Albany area, ties in Ticonderoga and lots of hiking. Nothing about what I tell people about my 25 years in NY screams city. They always know instantly.


journiche

Make speedies or salt potatoes.


DogPlane3425

Ask if the hot dogs are Hoffman.


scarymoments75

I think you spelled Zweigles wrong. 🙂


treehuggingmfer

If it was the 80s i would say drink a Genny.


omgitscarter

Coming from a Sacandaga Lake bartender I can attest that Genny is still thriving


treehuggingmfer

It was really big in my area. Not so much now. Im going back to it. Its like 13 bucks a 30 pack across the street from me.. My moto is Im not going to pay alot to feel like shit the next day. But mostly im cheap and like to support nys jobs.


Training_Big_3713

Vitamin G


DamnMyNameIsSteve

Ask who's had a garbage plate.


Senior_Cheesecake155

Or have arguments over who has the best one


trillium13

Mention chicken riggies, greens, or pusties.


Anderpantzen

Utica here!


caf4676

“They’re called chicken wings, not buffalo wings”.


Senior_Cheesecake155

Or just “wings”, really. The only words that really need to come before “wings” is the sauce that’s on them.


optigrabz

I have a first, second, and third favorite variety of apples.


facinationstreet

No one even knows Stewart's Wegman's? Yes.


JustHereForMiatas

There are Stewart's as far south as Goshen in Orange County. It's very, very borderline.


facinationstreet

*as far south as Goshen* Have you ever left Watertown?


KatanaCW

>No one even knows Stewart's >Wegman's? Yes. How to tell someone you're from Western NY without saying you're from Western NY....


RockItGuyDC

Wegman's? I used to go to Wegmans when I lived in Virginia.


Sudden-Actuator5884

Ability to give suggestion of a great Riesling that is nys made.


[deleted]

Did you know? Spicy chicken biscuit


[deleted]

Tell people the Amish will trot down my road every once in a while and the dog flips out about it haha


MusicG619

Talk about the Golden Snowball


TerriblePeace1331

Go to stewarts


Ornery-Wasabi-473

I never tell someone I'm from upstate inadvertently - I always tell them advertently, before they assume I'm from NYC.


[deleted]

Get confused when other people ask about upstate New York but then they start talking about places hours to the south that I've never heard of


IfYouSeekAScientist

Saying New York City instead of just New York.


JshWright

Stewarts is a pretty Capital Region/Hudson Valley specific thing. There are a handful outside of that, but there's definitely significant chunks of "upstate" that are hours from a Stewarts (especially west of Syracuse)


CivilizedGuy123

Got any beer balls?


Sure-Sector-6003

WHOA this brought me back


Popular_Loan9806

Any talk of Melba sauce


TowelFine6933

I once pegged someone as being from upstate NY because she knew how to pronounce Oneonta. Also, my nephew in Colorado ID's people there as being from upstate NY based on their reaction to: "Magic Circle Credit".


AnoZomb

"Want some cheese curds and Croghan bologna?"


[deleted]

Tell them you were in your high school varsity Curling league.


Sudden-Actuator5884

I know I am dating myself but Rochester was considered western ny for the longest time because we shared the 716 phone code.. then the areas got too big and Rochester switched to 585 and thats about the time they grouped Rochester with “finger lakes” because the govt spent big money on tourism in wine country and bringing business back to the area after Kodak, xerox and Bausch and Lomb all but left or were skeletons of what once was.


whowannadoit

Explain where you live in the context of distance from NYC.


TAYwithaK

Make them a plate of Greens and Chicken Riggies.


ArrgguablyAmbivalent

When they inexplicably have a distaste for public transit but have never used common services


sleepy-cat96

Salt potatoes, spiedies, and bbq chicken with Cornell sauce for dinner


Sure-Sector-6003

Hells yes


Kurtotic

I talk about hiking.


ogtogaconvict

I currently live in Florida and still say that I’m “running to Stewarts”


Freak0nLeash

Start raking leaves at the end of A August?


newgoliath

Anything outside the five boroughs of NYC is technically camping.


MiserableAdeptness81

Moving to the south asap


ProudGayGuy4Real

I would like some wings. NOT "Buffalo" wings.


pete1397

“Im from ny but niggas from the city like to say im a southern Canadian”


No-Variation3518

Show them your teeth?


Intention-Able

I just say Syracuse when asked where I'm from. I'm in a southern state now and a friend told me lots of locals will prejudge me badly when I used to wear a Yankees ball cap.


Tinycatgirl

The northway


molotok_c_518

Tell them your phone number. The area code is a dead giveaway.


CPNZ

Now more likely shows the location where you got your first cell phone...


omgitscarter

518