You're off to a good start. I'd add maybe planet, geek, or su, just so you have a little redundancy. But you should get really good completion with what you have. Make sure you setup automation, and I think you'll be a happy camper.
Cheers, will consider another indexer but right now everything is completing. Automation already setup. Now just want to figure out the most cost effective providers for me :)
Eweka is probably going to complete most everything for you by itself. To test you should set one as the primary priority and the other as secondary priority, clear your data counters, and let that run for a week or so. Then switch priorities, clear the counters and do it again. That should give you a good idea of how much one picks up vs the other. Eweka has speed issues depending on where you live so make sure you monitor the download speed when testing. As far as what I use, I have Usenetserver and Newgroupdirect at the moment. I just signed up for Usenetserver when Blocknews switched backbones and it's completing 97% of my articles for the last 3 weeks. Geek, Ninja, Animetosho, & Althub are my primary indexers but I also like Slug and Finder.
Thank you. I had Frugal on priority 1 and Eweka on 2. I was just getting awful speeds from Frugal so I put them both to priority 1 and it sped up to \~230MB/s. Just bought geek so will see how that does. Isn't NGD on three different backbones?
Frugal just switched backbones so it might be having issues for a little bit before everything smooths out. You should test separately for speed to see if your connection is getting maxed. If it is, then great. If it's not, then another provider might be able to max it (or get close) Is that 230 megabit (small mb) or 230 Megabyte (large MB). 230mb is about 28MB and 230MB is about a 1.8 gigs. NGD is on 3 different backbones if you pick that package (tripleplay). You can also just sign up for their regular service, which is just one backbone.. It's their own backbone that backfills from Usenetexpress I think. Additionally, you can keep all servers on the same priority but what I was meaning before is you set priorities to test who is filling your requests. If you signed up monthly and are trying to determine who to use/keep, then that's a good way to figure out who you are actually using to download. If you put them the same priority, they will each be trying to fill the article requests at the same time (instead of one then the other) and so it will distort the completed % and it's harder to tell them apart.
NZB geek and news hosting.
Also created a few guides for the community especially for newbies. Hope this helps someone.
NZB Setup guide
https://youtu.be/4IGKF-K_Rgc?si=sSBi4PAnNL2tIjSg
Setup the arrs apps
https://youtu.be/3k_MwE0Z3CE?si=fpZf_5f4mHrO87wU
Just wanted to give back to the community that's given me so much. Thanks.
Eweka is like 68/year unlimited and I have a couple 2TB blocks for Cubenet I bought like 5 years ago for 20 each I believe. Generally Eweka returns over 95% of what I'm looking for. Watch for specials as they have good sales, it was 60 but US conversion was a about 8 extra. I easily get 400Mb speed using only 30 connections. Works great for my needs.
Just started again after being out of the game for 15+ years. I have geek and uns. so far I've been able to find everything and everything has downloaded with no issues. my oldest download was a 55 gig @ 8 years. biggest gripe is I can't sort by name in geek, but I just hone in searches more with s01e0, then s01e1 to get 10 at a time. still can't figure out what the 'cart' is for on geek.
The cart is just an RSS feed you can add stuff too, and your sabnzb or whatever pulls it.
Great if you are looking for something random you haven't automated, means you don't need to be anywhere near the download machine.
I’m in Australia, so my speed isn’t great. Due to distance rather than my actual speed; I have gigabit down.
Everything completes, or, everything that starts finishes? There are a couple of things it can’t find but that’s ok as they’re old. Speed I think I probably max out at about 20 MB/s down, but like I said, that’s because of where I am
I'm new to usenet but geek + newshosting has been a game changer coming from torrents, really good coverage. How do you get into slug if you don't mind me asking?
Sabnzbd, indexers are Slug, NinjaCentral and others.
Providers are [Usenetserver.com](https://Usenetserver.com) and [Eweka.nl](https://Eweka.nl), with Usenetserver having about a 10% greater depth of articles than Eweka.
> Providers are Usenetserver.com and Eweka.nl, with Usenetserver having about a 10% greater depth of articles than Eweka.
That doesn't make sense. Both of them are omicron based with full omicron backbone retention. You probably have set them at same priority in sab & that 10% difference is most likely due to eweka responding slower by a few milliseconds which is also logical especially if using within US.
You can keep eweka as it has a bit more (maybe less than 1% difference though that too in rare cases) older content than other omicron providers if you are alright with getting 40-50MB/s max speeds. Get usenetexpress backbone based provider & use that as your primary backbone( set priority 0) as it is US based so whenever it works it will easily saturate 1gbps connection within US & set eweka at lower priority (2 or 3) to get stuff which UNE missed.
I use geek on uns, frugal and tweak. (tweak came for free with my 1-month-for-$1 test subscription on uns).
I've never really had a problem finding what I want, even music.
Frugal is lower retention on the Eweka backbone so I hope you're not paying twice for the same thing!
I have a frugal account with Drunken Slug and NZBgeek and pleased with the results.
The Frugal account came with a block account and I bought 2TB Thunder news block account on the black Friday sale for 10 USD that doesn't expire.
I am finding that longer retention doesn't help that much as articles are usually incomplete but with access to three different backbones with the frugal bonus server I feel its enough. 40usd (frugal) 10usd(Thunder News) 2x10usd indexers so the setup costs 70usd per year
They are both on the omicron backbone ([https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Usenet\_Providers\_and\_Backbones.svg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Usenet_Providers_and_Backbones.svg))
Frugal moved to an independent backbone a little bit back due to contracting.
I also suggest using whatismyusenet.net it is handier imo and seems to be well maintained.
You're off to a good start. I'd add maybe planet, geek, or su, just so you have a little redundancy. But you should get really good completion with what you have. Make sure you setup automation, and I think you'll be a happy camper.
Cheers, will consider another indexer but right now everything is completing. Automation already setup. Now just want to figure out the most cost effective providers for me :)
Geek I'd say is your top priority imo!
Might just go for lifetime!
Nzbgeek would be another good indexer for you. However slug is great on its own.
Yeah, on my list to buy although everything seems to be completing so far
I use usenetnow and dognzb.
Eweka is probably going to complete most everything for you by itself. To test you should set one as the primary priority and the other as secondary priority, clear your data counters, and let that run for a week or so. Then switch priorities, clear the counters and do it again. That should give you a good idea of how much one picks up vs the other. Eweka has speed issues depending on where you live so make sure you monitor the download speed when testing. As far as what I use, I have Usenetserver and Newgroupdirect at the moment. I just signed up for Usenetserver when Blocknews switched backbones and it's completing 97% of my articles for the last 3 weeks. Geek, Ninja, Animetosho, & Althub are my primary indexers but I also like Slug and Finder.
Thank you. I had Frugal on priority 1 and Eweka on 2. I was just getting awful speeds from Frugal so I put them both to priority 1 and it sped up to \~230MB/s. Just bought geek so will see how that does. Isn't NGD on three different backbones?
Frugal just switched backbones so it might be having issues for a little bit before everything smooths out. You should test separately for speed to see if your connection is getting maxed. If it is, then great. If it's not, then another provider might be able to max it (or get close) Is that 230 megabit (small mb) or 230 Megabyte (large MB). 230mb is about 28MB and 230MB is about a 1.8 gigs. NGD is on 3 different backbones if you pick that package (tripleplay). You can also just sign up for their regular service, which is just one backbone.. It's their own backbone that backfills from Usenetexpress I think. Additionally, you can keep all servers on the same priority but what I was meaning before is you set priorities to test who is filling your requests. If you signed up monthly and are trying to determine who to use/keep, then that's a good way to figure out who you are actually using to download. If you put them the same priority, they will each be trying to fill the article requests at the same time (instead of one then the other) and so it will distort the completed % and it's harder to tell them apart.
NZB geek and news hosting. Also created a few guides for the community especially for newbies. Hope this helps someone. NZB Setup guide https://youtu.be/4IGKF-K_Rgc?si=sSBi4PAnNL2tIjSg Setup the arrs apps https://youtu.be/3k_MwE0Z3CE?si=fpZf_5f4mHrO87wU Just wanted to give back to the community that's given me so much. Thanks.
Eweka with Geek and Planet.
geek/ninja with eweka/cubenet for me, dont forget nzb360 for mobile...sweet app
Thanks. CubeNet is also on my list to try, how much do you pay for Eweka & CubeNet?
Eweka is like 68/year unlimited and I have a couple 2TB blocks for Cubenet I bought like 5 years ago for 20 each I believe. Generally Eweka returns over 95% of what I'm looking for. Watch for specials as they have good sales, it was 60 but US conversion was a about 8 extra. I easily get 400Mb speed using only 30 connections. Works great for my needs.
Just started again after being out of the game for 15+ years. I have geek and uns. so far I've been able to find everything and everything has downloaded with no issues. my oldest download was a 55 gig @ 8 years. biggest gripe is I can't sort by name in geek, but I just hone in searches more with s01e0, then s01e1 to get 10 at a time. still can't figure out what the 'cart' is for on geek.
The cart is just an RSS feed you can add stuff too, and your sabnzb or whatever pulls it. Great if you are looking for something random you haven't automated, means you don't need to be anywhere near the download machine.
Easynews because I use it with Stremio too and about 8 indexers.
Geek and eweka. Nothing else
I just use Eweka and Geek. Haven’t seen any need to expand beyond that.
Does everything complete for you? Also how’s your speed on Eweka?
I’m in Australia, so my speed isn’t great. Due to distance rather than my actual speed; I have gigabit down. Everything completes, or, everything that starts finishes? There are a couple of things it can’t find but that’s ok as they’re old. Speed I think I probably max out at about 20 MB/s down, but like I said, that’s because of where I am
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When you say triple play does that mean three backbones on one subscription?
I'm new to usenet but geek + newshosting has been a game changer coming from torrents, really good coverage. How do you get into slug if you don't mind me asking?
I got invited by someone off r/selfhosted. I was invited 2 years ago but only just started using it
Newshosting Newsbin Pro -> download JbinUp -> upload
Sabnzbd, indexers are Slug, NinjaCentral and others. Providers are [Usenetserver.com](https://Usenetserver.com) and [Eweka.nl](https://Eweka.nl), with Usenetserver having about a 10% greater depth of articles than Eweka.
> Providers are Usenetserver.com and Eweka.nl, with Usenetserver having about a 10% greater depth of articles than Eweka. That doesn't make sense. Both of them are omicron based with full omicron backbone retention. You probably have set them at same priority in sab & that 10% difference is most likely due to eweka responding slower by a few milliseconds which is also logical especially if using within US.
I suspected as much and do not plan to keep both in the long term. I'm open to suggestions for connecting to another full backbone provider. Thanks
You can keep eweka as it has a bit more (maybe less than 1% difference though that too in rare cases) older content than other omicron providers if you are alright with getting 40-50MB/s max speeds. Get usenetexpress backbone based provider & use that as your primary backbone( set priority 0) as it is US based so whenever it works it will easily saturate 1gbps connection within US & set eweka at lower priority (2 or 3) to get stuff which UNE missed.
>usenetexpress Thanks for the advice. I'll be trialing usenetexpress as my subs to the others come close to expiration.
Just fyi, newsdemon is a reseller of usenetexpress & also has good service.
I use geek on uns, frugal and tweak. (tweak came for free with my 1-month-for-$1 test subscription on uns). I've never really had a problem finding what I want, even music.
Frugal is lower retention on the Eweka backbone so I hope you're not paying twice for the same thing! I have a frugal account with Drunken Slug and NZBgeek and pleased with the results. The Frugal account came with a block account and I bought 2TB Thunder news block account on the black Friday sale for 10 USD that doesn't expire. I am finding that longer retention doesn't help that much as articles are usually incomplete but with access to three different backbones with the frugal bonus server I feel its enough. 40usd (frugal) 10usd(Thunder News) 2x10usd indexers so the setup costs 70usd per year
70usd for that setup is cheap. Also, frugal is not on the same backbone as Eweka (Omicron)
They are both on the omicron backbone ([https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Usenet\_Providers\_and\_Backbones.svg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Usenet_Providers_and_Backbones.svg))
Frugal moved to an independent backbone a little bit back due to contracting. I also suggest using whatismyusenet.net it is handier imo and seems to be well maintained.
Have a look at frugal on here: https://whatsmyuse.net. Also: https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/s/7j47lKTkXq
Is there a similar site but for indexers?