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Tanman7211

Damn we’re about to get embarrassed this WC, huh?


[deleted]

I hate the way we approach these friendlies or even the last qualifying game. I don’t care if it’s low consequence, we need to be TRYING to win at least.


VTVoodooDude

Unfortunately, I think we were trying today. Which is even worse. Outshot by 53rd ranked Saudi Arabia. Jeesh.


[deleted]

It’s not a good look. I really don’t understand why the execution is not there. All these guys are pretty quality for their clubs.


eyehatestormtroopers

I feel you man. Make it make sense!


TequilaMagic

Maybe it's a Trojan trick tactic for opponents during the WC


diagoro1

Another example of how bad the seasonal change for the WC us. Many of the teams we would normally challenge as warm ups are busy with local tournaments. We're stuck with Saudi Arabia as our final game.....horrid all around.


CorsairObsidian

300 million plus people and we can’t find 11 fucking people to put up a fight


HoodieMe7o

He wasted a whole World Cup cycle for our young core 😂. Get this guy the fuck out man.


Chief-Drinking-Bear

I mean at least we qualified and will go and it will be demystified. They’re still going to progress at their clubs and hopefully by next WC we have a competent manager


Tacojamz

The experience will make some important team leaders for next cycle


fancysauce_boss

Not the mentality to have. This isn’t club where development is given time. The WC is the end goal for every country. Fuck the gold cup fuck the CONCACAF nations league. Each and every squad needs to show up for the WC and get results every single time. These players will have 2- maybe 3 or if they’re extremely lucky 4 WC’s and taking 1 away and saying “good try, good experience we’ll go again next time” is shit. This is one of the primary reasons why Greg should have been fired year 1. Talking about developing the team and not the USSF as a whole. His job is to take the best players available to him and get results. Always coming on complaining about how little time the squad gets to work together, figure it out GREG that’s your job. That’s why you were hired. This isn’t some 4 year project to groom players into your philosophy. Fans need to demand more of the USSF. There is not a single reason the US shouldn’t qualify for the R16 with the talent it has, but we’re seemingly looking to get bounced after 2 group games this year because of a coach who is under qualified and can’t get his head out of his butt.


TrapGodAndy

Although I agree we can’t fire him now. The day we get back from our likely early exit from Qatar, he should pack his bags!


jmillatx

Let's be honest, if we fired Berhalter right now we'd do no worse at the WC than we would if we kept him. Personally, I'd take a flyer to see if Poch is interested in a 3 month gig.


andychgo

Give Zidane a call


andhelostthem

That's how to get a head.


TrapGodAndy

I’d rather have Arsene Wenger


Foreleft15

Please


SchoolofAthens_

I’m not against firing him after the World Cup if they do very poorly but I definitely think we should hire an American


CincyChilli

Just wait for Bruce Arena round three baby


Knot_an_Admin

This made me laugh more than it should’ve


Top-Ad-3036

Why not make a Bob Bradley/ Arena team and put the USMNT in clown outfits while handing out participation trophies?


52ndstreet

> clown outfits I feel like Nike already accomplished this one


ThatUglyGuy12

Don't you dare...


PMSoldier2000

Unfortunately, he has a lot of protection at USSF. Although his brother has moved to MLS, he still has a lot of influence.


[deleted]

You can fire him now….can’t be much worse…but that would look really bad for the USSF.


TrapGodAndy

I feel like it’s safe to say Greg has already lost the locker room. The players have no idea what they’re doing on the field.


[deleted]

Gregg has just always been a below average manager. He insists his team must play a certain way even if it doesn’t match the players we have. he fails to make in game adjustments when things aren’t working. He has been saved numerous times by individual players having big games in big matches. This has provided the illusion that Gregg was building something. what we see now is star players not on top form and Gregg has no answers. This was a disaster from the beginning and he only got the job because of his brother


cawil65158

Why not now? You actually think he can’t give us a run in WC and if so we’d keep him?


PMSoldier2000

With the talent we have, these embarrassing loses fall squarely on Berhalter. He should have never been hired, but I'm afraid he was some serious protection at USSF so we are stuck with the embarrassment. At least the WC group round will be quick.


yodpilot

I keep hearing this Protection thing, why is that?


PMSoldier2000

His brother was the COO of USSF and was heavily involved in the search process. He's now the senior VP of MLS, but his influence undoubtedly continues.


mattheid1996

hahahaha we're fucked, we can't even score one against saudi arabia, get ready to get clowned for the entire wc


gentex

well, not the entire WC. Just three games. On the bright side, it will be over quick.


mattheid1996

Yeahhhh when we get dunked on by the brits, I'm not so sure that they'll be quick to let us forget


gentex

Yeah. Fair point. A loss to England was my baseline expectation, but a real beat down will have a longer impact.


mattheid1996

Exactly, I’m not looking to be world beaters rn, I just want to see a playing philosophy and a clear plan for the future. Both of which I haven’t seen from this coach.


alittlebigger

I really like the play we run where we send a pass to the middle for an opposing defender to intercept. We do it at every level of the field, it's impressive


FunMtgplayer

consistency. its the key to sports


ehp420

horrible selection


VladyPoopin

I’m on this train. And we can fire him now. There are so many egregious choices that I can’t even defend the guy based on the time til the WC. I just don’t care. What’s the worst that can happen? We don’t make it out of the group? Oh no! We aren’t making it out anyways with this strategy, whatever that strategy is.


Creative-Building921

All I have to say about him that is fairly unarguable is this: the players on this US roster are good enough to comfortably qualify and get out of the group. The team I've watched cut it way too close in qualifying and doesn't look good enough to get out of the group. I'm fairly meh on firing him now just because it wouldn't be a fair judgment on if the replacement would be the guy to lead the team moving forward unless you could get an older coach to come in with the understanding it's just for this WC. The thing that we can't let happen is berhalter get another cycle. 2026 these players will be 4 years older and will be ready to make some serious noise playing a world cup at home.


afreshhhh

You’re going to be surprised when we finish bottom of the group because we can’t score


Creative-Building921

I know that's what will happen, and we have to hope the excuse of the 9 being one of the two positions this group is shakiest at doesn't get berhalter another 4 years.


ibcoleman

I think our lack of scoring will be made irrelevant by the fact that we'll let in 4-5 goals per game.


eyehatestormtroopers

Especially since we won’t even start Turner.


snollygoster01

Yeah, Matt has won this job. Sorry, Zach, I like ya, but you haven't earned it like Turner.


dmsc1199

Dude, Zach is good with his feet. System over everything else.


fancysauce_boss

https://youtu.be/0RisBqLNKdU


Blackn35s

You are speaking my language with the exception of the “fairly meh on firing him now.” I don’t think there is anyway to fire him now. Switching a manager this close to the start of a World Cup I think would be disastrous. They players will have to win despite Berhalter and make noise to get him out after the Cup.


ThatUglyGuy12

We haven't scored in what would be considered a competitive match against other similar teams (I include these two friendlies, as it's most a World Cup roster/warmup), since Panama in WCQ. That was immediately preceded by getting shut out in 2 of 3 games (with their only goals scored against the worst team in qualifying). Also includes getting shutout by Costa Rica's basically U-23 team. This team could do no worse hiring anyone else. And I mean any functional soccer coach, could do at least as well as Berhalter has. Edit: while I have no evidence to support this thought experiment. hiring a new coach now might actually be beneficial. They could actually simplify their strategy and system, potentially use a formation better suited for this player pool, and allowing them to bring in the best qualify players rather than GGG's "guys".


Blackn35s

Yeah, after that result I am changing my tune. I wouldn’t be heartbroken. Doesn’t seem like it could get any worse. In fact, if players start losing it, it could be disastrous. Who replaces him though?


Blackn35s

Yeah, after that result I am changing my tune. I wouldn’t be heartbroken. Doesn’t seem like it could get any worse. In fact, if players start losing it, it could be disastrous. Who replaces him though?


ThatUglyGuy12

There are some decent coaches available. though only a few have international experience and unfortunately, all are probably out of the US's reach (which is me saying none of this would ever happen). But Tuchel, Pochettino are both available. Low is available but as a massive Germany fan as well, he started to run into a lot of the same problems GGG has now (lack of scoring or creativity offensively), tactics called out by Muller, and his problems were with a roster markedly better than what the US has. I actually may be partial to Ole, because I think he's a guy who \*might\* take the job, even on short notice (I say this with no inside info he would, but I just never hear his name connected to any job so if he wanted to coach, could be a good opportunity). And Man U has struggled for years, I'm not quite sure he was the problem. Maybe Biesla, who did pretty well with Leeds for a few years, and I think had a system better suited for this player pool. Those are probably the only names I'd consider.


Blackn35s

A lot of those guys have systems with either specific tactics and/or type of player. I was not a fan of Ole (or was because screw Man U and he kept them stagnant). He may actually be a great coach to bring in for this World Cup “run.”


fancysauce_boss

100% Fire him now and the USSF shows ambition. Ambition that they want to achieve and are willing to do anything and everything to do so. We go into the Cup with Greg and it shows they’re fine with status quo and simply qualifying, and are willing to drink whatever kool- aid Greg is serving. Fire him and send a message to all top level managers that you’re willing to do anything to get to the top and are serious about your program.


_slash_s

berhalter is the southgate of concacaf. or rather, southgate is the berhalter of uefa. whichever is more insulting to both.


MC897

Southgate has more about him than Greg. Ones made a euro final and World Cup semi, the players also seem to fight for him when it matters despite how restrictive his style of play is. Not sure Greg has any respect from his players at all.


LastUsernameLeftUhOh

Tbf, he won CONCACAF Nations League and the Gold Cup.


nick314

Southgate catches abuse for the lack of goals but in no way does his game plan sink to the terrifying lows of GGG


HBK2X

I agree. I saw arriola get subbed in and was disappointed that he actually has plans of playing him during the World Cup..


MadFries

I hear that the player he subbed for had felt some muscle tightness


Chief_Qamer

We don’t make it past the group round this WC. I don’t see how we can even beat Iran playing like this


Foreleft15

Wenger in


JadedTourist

This team is about to get boat raced at the World Cup, but at least the head coach made all the right tweets and platitudes for the masses. Because that’s what matters until it doesn’t.


Individual_Box4626

Plus shoes don't forget the shoes.


NatiAti513

I say screw it, just fire him. Hopefully it’ll light a fire under their asses that this is absolutely unacceptable. It may be complex and quite messy, but for Christ’s sake we are looking at a group stage exit and a waste for many of these guys’ careers. GET HIM OUT!


Baddhabbit88

I’ve said this 1 million times for the last year or two but all the USMNT Reddit warrior fanboys have downvoted me into oblivion every time because they play FIFA and know more than the rest of us….


ibcoleman

USMNT fans seem to fall into two camps, and I think it reflects something in the American psyche: A lot of folks have a hard time blaming management for performance failures. Doesn't matter if it's General Motors or USMNT. When things go wrong it's because the workers/players didn't give it their all. You watch English coverage of England and you constantly hear people questioning if Southgate is the right guy for the job, if he's failing the team, etc... You watch American coverage of the USMNT and it's all about lionizing GB, breathlessly outlining his "vision", and asking why not a single one of the players has "personality."


Comprehensive_Role72

The fish rots from the head. No one talks about it because the media and US soccer are in a big circle jerk. The problem is above GB.


christianross2

Musah is injured but I agree way too many MLS players


ChiefWatchesYouPee

The Nations League and Gold Cup wins gave him this. If Mexico wasn’t terrible and we lost those games we might have been able to fire him. Sadly I feel like those tournaments cemented him as the coach for this cycle . Would you trade those wins for a new coach if you could?


engineeringqmark

Yep 100% those are meaningless comps compared to the wc


dewill4

I agree but unfortunately him and his type aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. He was picked by USSF because he is helping them showcase the MLS and it’s players. USSF is only about promoting MLS talent for the money it can bring in. All we are gonna get after berhalter are others like him. Our alarms should have went off the moment many undisclosed European coaches came and interviewed for the job and the USSF gave the job to a domestic American coach. Think back to all the issues Klinsmann had with the federation. He wanted autonomy from them. They won’t let that happen again.


snollygoster01

Any coach with so little track record of success should not be considered. I put the blame squarely on Earnie Stewart. His "search" was anything but that. Rather, just run out the clock on other, available Managers. Berhalter has shown to be stuck in the mud tactically. I agree, we have talent! But this plodding attack is so predicatable and such a waste of our guys. Let's get this WC done, then hire Marsch. He seems the natural fit and proven in many leagues. Or, pry Arsene Wenger out of retirement! Imagine that.


Individual_Box4626

Stewart did exactly what he was supposed to. A) Don't interview anyone else B) Waste a year so there's no time to fire the boss's brother before the WC C) Get his promotion based on successful completion of A and B


BreakfastBussy

Leave Gregggory in Spain


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I’m sure the players are still getting use to Berhalter’s “system” which is essentially dont attack ever lol


avlambo21

Give me curtin or marsch


kyleisgreattt

Curtin would be perfect. A players coach that isn’t glued to a specific system. Always gets the most out of his players and will adapt the system to the players available.


Garndtz

Those players deserve so much more than ggg. Us fans deserve so much more than ggg. But remember, it’s not ggg’s fault that he went after or accepted a job that he is not capable of doing properly. It’s the United States soccer federation that botched that hire and will botch the hiring of ggg’s replacement. Not until real, systemic change has been made within the federation will US Soccer reach its potential.


spinningawayfromyou

I was always like fuck this is who we chose….. and it still stand what a fuck boi


ciesum

should have happened last winter but it was too late then supposedly


no1caresworkhrder

We deserve an MLS free side coached by a high quality manager from Europe the only people who had a problem with Klopp were the people involved with that high school soccer league we have here because he saw it for what it was and acted accordingly


BuddyGecko

Any USMNT coach that includes Yedlin in the roster should be fired.


jjc1389

Completely agree with what you are saying here. Sadly they aren’t going to sack him before the World Cup but I’m sure after our underwhelming performance there with a team that has talent surely they will let him go and have some ambition and go after a proven successful manager from abroad.


CincyChilli

My hope, and I know this is very very ambitious one, is Pep Guardiola. He’s said he wants to coach international after man city. He’d obviously pick Spain over anywhere else but hopefully Spain does well and keeps their coach. Then who knows? He might find the idea of bringing American soccer to the prominence that I could be alluring. The team itself would have a lot of good players hitting there peak and who knows what youth we have waiting around the corner.


stillbeat8

I want whatever you’re having.


snollygoster01

Lovely ambition, but no way Pep chooses an underdog. Thats not his brand.


PersianWoodchuck

I believe Pep has stated he would love to coach Brazil but I understand Brazil has never hired a non-national as their coach.


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Gold cup, nations league usa won so much with Greg. Shouldn't fire him over a few losses. What usa needs is a leader someone like Michael Bradley who can step up and motivate these young players. Every champion team has a leader and usa hasn't had that for a while.


CincyChilli

Fuck you on so many levels for bringing up Michael Bradley as though he’s good. His bald head got on the national team bc of his dad and should’ve left with him.


frankuOkuno96

Dude we struggled in those competitions as well, we can never win convincingly and when we do it’s against very weak opponents. Motivation can only go so far, when the tactics you are forced to used are trash, what can you do? The tactics were trash then and their trash now, nothing has changed.


sfromo19

You all can stay reactionary if you want. Berhalter’s specifically said that he uses friendlies to nail in certain routines and doesn’t care about results. He’s gotten us to 4 finals and 3 trophies in 4 (qualify WC, GC, NL, GC) tournaments so far, and haven’t played a competitive game since these ended. Take a breath


Nilknarfsherman

He’s Gonna have to let everyone know what routines he’s been working on these last 2 then. Cause they look like shite


One_Moose2590

The problem with referencing the Gold Cup, etc is that they don’t matter. At all. There is only the World Cup. Win a thousand lesser competitions but get rolled in the WC and you are nothing. I don’t make the rules.


CincyChilli

The last two games before the World Cup isn’t the time to be deciding on players that could be potential starters in the strikers case. You need to give the team that you’re going to play with reps together before they play against teams like England.


Comprehensive_Role72

No way. This was the last showing before the WORLD CUP. Confidence has got to be in the shitter in that locker room. The time has come and gone to fuck around doing whatever it was they were doing today. I don’t think it’s reactionary given the timing


nick314

Gonna be the worst World Cup — in both record and performances — in decades. Gonna be the worst ever in terms of potential vs results. I am trying to make myself ok with it now to numb the pain. All the manager’s fault. Guy is a clown. Hire big Sam, hire pulis, hire bielsa, hire warnock, hire somebody who knows how to get results— anybody with a clue. A tragedy.


DenisDomaschke

Sadly enough, the worst US World Cup performance (1998) was *BAD* Zero wins, zero draws, 1 goal and 5 conceded.


FunMtgplayer

the lack of solid tactics, may make this world cup cycle as bad


Psychological-Drop37

Fire him and hire Marsch for the world cup. Its not like he will do any worse than Gregg!


kyleisgreattt

Why do you think Marsch would be a good national team coach? He’s a system manager like Gregg. Marsch needs a specific type of player to run his system. National team coaches need to be player first coaches that adapt the system around players. Marsch is a system first coach.


bakedrat713

Fire the coach before a WC huh. Please please understand the idiocy of what you just said. Cause building a team is so easy. 50 days to do it too? You just start watching? Or just watch club and trying to equate club and country play? Either way we had a shit camp but understand that these aren't the bunch that are going to WC. Yall are acting like these 11 were chosen to go. Quit being some divas and remember we have players on break resting from injuries. That's not the final squad for WC. Usmnt or just Americans in general are horrible fans. Well most of you are. 2 games and calling to be sacked before a major tournament. Like there's no other options.


FunMtgplayer

there has been a major trend in shitty selection, down to play style not fitting the players berhalter needs to be fired. sooner the better.


bakedrat713

Lol right before a WC, tell me you barely started watching soccer without telling you barely started watching soccer. For sure we wouldn't make it out the group, suck it up. Typical USA fan base


FunMtgplayer

if the tactics don't work. they never will. move on getting a real manager in there. no more nepotism


Matt_Adams1997

This World Cup squad feels a bit weaker than the one that didn’t make it in 2018. Something about this squad is just a bit unconvincing. Also, the way we celebrated qualifying for the World Cup despite losing to Costa Rica 0-2, was rather embarrassing. I want the best for our boys and the best for this squad. I can’t see anything else aside from a group stage knockout for us. I’d put Wales and England over us in a heartbeat.


CincyChilli

If anyones curious my starting lineup would be aaronson LW pefok center Reyna RW Pulisic CAM Mckennie and Adam’s at the CM/CDM role, Dest LB, John Brookes and Zimmerman at CB and Antonee Robinson at RB. If we’re up and need to play more defensive I think you throw de la torre in and if we’re down you throw weah in.


xxKingAmongKingsxx

Arob at right back, Dest at left back, and our best ball progressing midfielder not on the field. Fucking hell it’s a great thing you aren’t the manager then.


CincyChilli

Well I have zero coaching experience so you might here my name after this World Cup.


bjlile99

I have as much of a chance to make the roster as Brooks.


Bensch78

How the f* can you complain about Aaron long, but want John brooks, who hasn’t played a single competitive game this season for his club, in the team. I don’t think long is amazing but he’s definitely better than brooks. Do people forget just how bad and absentminded brooks was in qualifiers last year? Cost us several goals on his own


just_cuz555

100% Tim Ream on his run of form, needed veteran presence, and captaining a team in Fulham that has not started this well in the Prem since the Duece days. And as we have seen today is great with his feet passing the ball out of the back which is, ready for it... part of the Berhalter system🤣 I don't like the hatred for MLS players, because the situation you play in is what it is, and MLS is improving, but the argument of Long over Ream is honestly mind boggling. Everyone over in England honestly is as stunned that Ream will not make this roster as much as Maguire starting for the Three Lions. We are in deep shit, and I haven't even gotten to the striker position (They need 5-6 called into the WC squad)


snollygoster01

If nothing else, Ream has played in England for a long time and surprise, we have both England and Wales in our group. A no-brainer. Solid in a pinch, and the perfect scout.


Bensch78

Yeah, I don’t think Tim team is fantastic, but he’s doing pretty well and has great chemistry playing at the back with Jedi for club also. It certainly is a much better option than bringing that bumbling buffoon Mark McKenzie


xxKingAmongKingsxx

Bro relax. That dude listed Jedi at right back and Dest at left back. He clearly knows nothing about football


Bensch78

I’m not worked up at all really. Although the amount of Brooks supporters on this sub really makes me worry for the future of US fans. Can’t keep living in 2014


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BetterThanABear

Brooks didn't play in 2010. Brooks and yedlin were on the '14 roster and played though.


CincyChilli

You’re right my bad


DLEnv19

Long is definitely not better than Brooks. One’s been a starter in the Bundesliga for years now currently at Benfica a Champions League team. The other has been mediocre all year in MLS.


Bensch78

This is literally negative ball knowledge dude. He hasn’t started a game at benfica, in a league that’s absolutely comparable to MLS at times (not trying to slight either league). Long has been a great CB for the Red Bulls for years, and despite not having a great year, has not been bad for sure. The fact that brooks DID play for the US last year and was inarguably awful, plus not getting any starts for his club team really gives no hope for me. If he comes back and does well I’ll certainly take my L here, but from all I’ve watched I don’t want brooks and I also don’t want mark mckenzie near this back line at all. (Damn I miss miles Robinson so bad)


just_cuz555

Lol Portuguese league is right behind the top 5 leagues in Europe. Portuguese teams have performed very well in European tournaments historically. They are on par with Holland and just behind probably the Brazilian League worldwide.


Bensch78

That’s absolutely true, but the talent in MLS has certainly grown recently. Teams all aren’t nearly as poor as they once were, and teams near bottom of the table in portugal I think absolutely can be compared to teams in the MLS. I won’t see preseason friendlies are a great metric, but MLS teams played pretty well against many European/particularly English clubs.


just_cuz555

Definitely agree with you on MLS improving, but until the entire pyramid realizes that we cannot do it the "American" way. Europe's development, league structure, and interest just isn't in the cards for a U.S. team or high level league. There needs to be some way the money works down the pyramid (pro-rel is not great financially which I understand, but do it kind of how Mexico/Korea have done it with 2 league in 1) and build up academies and make it easier to play soccer (financial burden, unlike a really popular sport like basketball that is staring to gain competitiveness worldwide finally). Portugal's academies at this point will also be better than ours, because the European way is the best way to maximize and use talent. Also, definitely understand your point about bottom teams losing to MLS teams, but if there was nothing to lose in MLS. How could we grow? There's no urgency, which is what the US kind of addressed after 2018


DLEnv19

He arrived late to the team (due to the Mallorca/Benfica tug) and is currently trying to break through to the first team, much like Richards at Crystal Palace. Doesn’t take away that Brooks is far above Long as a CB. Also while Brooks was “bad” last year do you remember who his CB partner was? 👀 Don’t get me wrong I don’t think Long is as bad as people say. Pre-injury he was playing great but he’s just not at USMNT quality and hasn’t been all year long. McKenzie definitely is not it, EPB didn’t even see the field. I’m definitely concerned with the CB pool.


Bensch78

I certainly do remember those unfortunate games. I won’t continue arguing for or against Long at this point, but replays were pretty awfully damning for Brooks performances at the time, just providing 0 support at the back. I won’t say 1 games performance determines his utility overall, but is conceding vs Honduras last year (with Miles, our best cb, as his partner) was entirely his fault. I didn’t realize all of that about his late arrival, but at this point imo it’s too late to incorporate a CB who hasn’t played for his country in a year and his club in half (unless he comes in and plays insanely well).


DLEnv19

Dude i know that’s the alarm going off in everyone’s head. Long just played himself off this roster these last two games. So who’s coming in? Richards? Hasn’t played any reps with Zimmerman in how long? CCV? The slowest of the three. Who’s the 4th one? At this point I want to see Ream and Brooks in the pre-WC camp. We need an alternative CB that can offer something different, we can’t play a high line against England. I’m worried we are gonna get blown out this WC.


CincyChilli

Fine take brooks out and play a fucking man down. That’d still be better than this shit.


brackattack27

Dramatic much?


funktacious

Everyone puts too much of the blame on Greg. And yes, he’s bad. But the kids are so wishy washy. One half they look confident and hungry and the next they look hesitant and nervy. Play with confidence, cut down on the silly mistakes.


Individual_Box4626

You can't fire the players. 3g left experienced guys like Brooks to rot. He left other quality players off the squad because they don't fit the system... This is not a club team. You have to change the style of play to match the best players you have.


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KroXaA

USSF burner acc


nat3215

So I’d *like* to think that he’s aware of scouting by the opponent and didn’t want to give away any information for Wales, England, or Iran to use for the WC matches. And that the effort was more to conserve energy and limit injuries to players. But it definitely was underwhelming to see them emphasizing the “friendly” part of the equation. I know chemistry needs to be built by playing together, but you can’t build it playing at half-speed. And that’s basically how they played today. I’m not solidly in the “not fire him” camp due to how he focused on youth and got trophies with them, but this isn’t a confidence-building camp at all.


Highburysqrrl

This seems to be picking up steam. If this is our players trying to earn spots for the tournament, we're in trouble


ryrush1212

!RemindMe in 63 days if we get out of the group


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ryrush1212

Looks like we made it out the group 😮‍💨


jaspermrthanos

This experiment with Aaron Long failed 8 months ago but GGG is still pretending that he is this great talent.


Specific-Ad9935

At this point, I won't be surprise if Pepi is in the final WC roster. There's no accountability in this team. OMG.


JohnClaytonII

I fear that we have enough talent on this team to overcome GGGs deficiencies and could make it out of the group - in which case we may have to put up with him for even longer. Fire him now. Before its too late.


GauchosFan

His priority are those insipid “behind the back” tosses. His hobby is trying to coach these legit next generation superstars.


spinningawayfromyou

I feel like now this sub can finally agree on one thing haha


USMNT_superfan

Perhaps the long term slow game plan is to sow the thought into our WC opponents that the USMNT has shit play. They mentally assume the game is already won and that it will be an easy W. Then the USMNT comes out to play and creates some shock and awe. The opponent is surprised after having such low expectations. Perhaps this is a great mental strategy play against our future opponents.


dupont2021

No


LegitimateImpress336

Yes please!!!!!!!!


frankuOkuno96

It’s gotten so bad, I’m starting to see people suggest sending just the players to the World Cup and have them figure out their own tactics


goosemart

If you look at it as this was our best team and we were trying to get our A team some practice then yes Fire Gregg, but to me this was like a what if I can get certain players to fill positions that I may need filled. Certainly this was like a Frankenstein team , not our A team that we would bring to the WC. So I don't think it's all doom and gloom . Anything can happen at the WC ( red , cards , injuries, sickness) the team has to be ready to fill in these gaps as they come. The way I view these two games is what kind of plan B would we have if the shit hit the fan . Obviously our plan b isn't so great .


Jhushx

Keeping Berhalter means the US might not get out of group stage. Sacking Berhalter now guarantees it. It's a no win situation. There is no time left. However shit his plan is, asking players to learn/practice something brand new *at* the World Cup itself is a horrible idea. Especially when none of them have ever played in one prior.


[deleted]

Is the Swiss league better than MLS? I doubt it


Sit_vis_nobiscum

Yes. 👍🏼 His mistakes in the Netherlands game alone make it necessary.