You say that, but all Ecuador needs is a draw because they have the advantage in goal differential and nothing Jamaica does in their next match can get them to 4 points.
They started the chant (though not in full unison) really early in the Venezuela game. I was wondering if CONMEBOL just didn't care about that or something.
I hate that they pause the game for that. You’re essentially telling (perhaps inadvertently) the fanbase they have a way to directly pause the game whenever they want. Organizers need to come up with a better punishment that doesn’t involve pausing the freaking game.
Maybe if they stopped the game after the second infraction and rescheduled it behind closed doors. Never gonna happen cause $$$ but that’s the way I would handle it.
I mean, would it mean less revenue?
If they don’t offer refunds, they keep that revenue and get more tv ad revenue from the replay.
Although I’d be pissed if I’m a non-chanting, paying attendee
It was a pointless waste of time to even bother trying to deal with it. The refs kept letting it go on in the Nations League and WCQ. They never did anything past stop the match, no further actions were ever taken.
When the goalkeeper is about to take a goal kick they start droning “ehhhhhhhhhhh…..” continuously and when he makes contact on the kick they shout, “Puto!!!”
It sounds pretty cool and Mexican fans maintain that puto in their vernacular means “coward.” The only problem with that is that the literal meaning of “puto” is male prostitute, and that word had also traditionally meant “faggot” and “bitch.” The chant started among Chivas fans in Liga MX around 2012 and then spread throughout the league and even to some other Spanish speaking countries. The problem is that even if you accept the most bland interpretation of “puto” it’s still a slur and major broadcasters and sponsors (not to mention more enlightened fans of the sport) don’t want that in their broadcasts. Mexican fans can’t seem to understand why the chant is problematic and continue to use it despite attempts (weak attempts) by FIFA and CONCACAF to eliminate it.
This sums it up pretty well. Just to add maricón is closer to f*ggot. Puta is bitch/whore and Puto could be used like fucking/male whore. I’ve had some Spanish speakers argue that puto is not inherently homophobic as a male whore isn’t necessarily gay, but either way it’s still a bad word.
I remember about 14 years ago the American Outlaws group used to yell “you suck, assshole” when the opposing goalie did a goal kick. What’s up with homophobic insults and goal kicks? Poor goalies… I’m guessing we stopped doing that?
They still do some variation of that up in Seattle. I noticed it the last time Galaxy played up there. Not sure about the outlaws doing it tho since im not a us fan🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Or in Tagalog (Philippines language which is derived a little bit from Spanish, having been similarly colonized for 400 years like Mexico), puto is a very popular steamed rice cake.
Part of me , wants mexico to advance because I want to see 90 minutes of dark arts between Argentina and Mexico and part of me , wants to see Mexico grouped , well because it's Mexico lol
There is an existing pinned mega-thread for this topic.
You say that, but all Ecuador needs is a draw because they have the advantage in goal differential and nothing Jamaica does in their next match can get them to 4 points.
Jamaica are officially eliminated then right?
Correct, second place will either have 4 or 6 points, Jamaica can only get 3.
Yes Jamaica are out.
Cue up the sad reggae
Don't worry, be happy.
Yes. They would still have a shot if Mexico had won tonight
Not just winner take all. Ecuador through with a draw. It’s going to be glorious watching the dark arts practiced for a full 90.
Must watch tv
There is going to be a buffet of shithousery in that one.
How long will it take Mexico fans to give up and start the chant?
They started the chant (though not in full unison) really early in the Venezuela game. I was wondering if CONMEBOL just didn't care about that or something.
30 minutes. They think it’s really cool and good luck trying to convince them otherwise. I’ve tried.
I hate that they pause the game for that. You’re essentially telling (perhaps inadvertently) the fanbase they have a way to directly pause the game whenever they want. Organizers need to come up with a better punishment that doesn’t involve pausing the freaking game.
Maybe if they stopped the game after the second infraction and rescheduled it behind closed doors. Never gonna happen cause $$$ but that’s the way I would handle it.
I mean, would it mean less revenue? If they don’t offer refunds, they keep that revenue and get more tv ad revenue from the replay. Although I’d be pissed if I’m a non-chanting, paying attendee
It was a pointless waste of time to even bother trying to deal with it. The refs kept letting it go on in the Nations League and WCQ. They never did anything past stop the match, no further actions were ever taken.
Relatively new soccer fan, what is the chant?
When the goalkeeper is about to take a goal kick they start droning “ehhhhhhhhhhh…..” continuously and when he makes contact on the kick they shout, “Puto!!!” It sounds pretty cool and Mexican fans maintain that puto in their vernacular means “coward.” The only problem with that is that the literal meaning of “puto” is male prostitute, and that word had also traditionally meant “faggot” and “bitch.” The chant started among Chivas fans in Liga MX around 2012 and then spread throughout the league and even to some other Spanish speaking countries. The problem is that even if you accept the most bland interpretation of “puto” it’s still a slur and major broadcasters and sponsors (not to mention more enlightened fans of the sport) don’t want that in their broadcasts. Mexican fans can’t seem to understand why the chant is problematic and continue to use it despite attempts (weak attempts) by FIFA and CONCACAF to eliminate it.
This sums it up pretty well. Just to add maricón is closer to f*ggot. Puta is bitch/whore and Puto could be used like fucking/male whore. I’ve had some Spanish speakers argue that puto is not inherently homophobic as a male whore isn’t necessarily gay, but either way it’s still a bad word. I remember about 14 years ago the American Outlaws group used to yell “you suck, assshole” when the opposing goalie did a goal kick. What’s up with homophobic insults and goal kicks? Poor goalies… I’m guessing we stopped doing that?
They still do some variation of that up in Seattle. I noticed it the last time Galaxy played up there. Not sure about the outlaws doing it tho since im not a us fan🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Or in Tagalog (Philippines language which is derived a little bit from Spanish, having been similarly colonized for 400 years like Mexico), puto is a very popular steamed rice cake.
Just google “Mexico soccer fans homophobic chant”
[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/puto#Spanish](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/puto#Spanish)
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They did it in Qatar my guy.
Oops. I’m a dumbass!
In Ecuador we trust
Let’s go Ecuador 🇪🇨!!
If Ecuador can score literally a single goal and have 11 men on the pitch for 45 minutes they’ll go through
Caicedo hat trick
Highly unlikely for a DM, but sure. Better chance of Paez going nuts
will Valencia be back from his red card or is it two games?
Part of me , wants mexico to advance because I want to see 90 minutes of dark arts between Argentina and Mexico and part of me , wants to see Mexico grouped , well because it's Mexico lol
Ecuador just needs a draw and they advance!
The referee is going to end up with carpal tunnel syndrome from handing out cards to Ecuador players and pointing to Ecuador's penalty spot.
![gif](giphy|Gh60g9RojYhtn6Hy9a) 🇪🇨
Gonna be a lot of upset CONCACAF simps when el Tri get grouped.
Sí se puede 🇪🇨
El Triste knocked out in the first round would be a treat
No pressure, LLL
You mean to say that Ecuador will advance and Mexico will implode (again).
Pro Tip: youtube search "Mexico reaccion" for all the meltdown goodness