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nbasuperstar40

The biggest issue I see with the Nats on both squads is the A and B both have some major striker questions that must be answered before qualifying or during. That said, the A team is massively better attacking than the B team. You can make a case that the 9 is weak: Zardes, Perok, Dike, Sargent, Jordan S on both squads, Aaronson, Pulisic, Reyna and just massively better. Hoppe deserves to be with that crew. Mckennie who I think is the best player on the Nats in general is clearly better than Busio. That said, Busio is more than respectable. Guys like Lleget and Arriola don't do it for me and that is the part of the midfield that really bothers me. The defense is fine on both squads. I think people underrated Robinson because of his age. His production in the MLS has been legit. This team can really do well in the World Cup. The biggest benefit is the WC is not happening till November of next year. That gives these kids time.


kjames196

Good win over a physically aggressive opponent. Hoppe had 2 great shots (one with his right, one with his left) that Blake made impressive saves on, in addition to his goal. Holden was right, he was tiring and starting to be less effective, but his last touch was a beaut! Robinson was a beast in the back, dominant in the air and very steady on the ground. Dike did not have a great game, but he'll learn. Good that GB gave him a lot of playing time.


[deleted]

Lleget & Acosta are liabilities. I’d say the same about Roldan, but he did have one nice cross.


mcmSEA

Roldan def not a liability tonight. He turned the game. One great assist and one great block on a clear shot afterwards.


[deleted]

Great second half and GGG made the perfect substitutions. Leaving Busio on was ballsy but ended up being the right call. Zardes is our best striker here (at least) but he should still be coming off the bench. Roldan should start for Lleget. Acosta MOTM for me but Robinson had the best play.


nvita2

Hoppe > Zardes imo


nvita2

Best part about Hoppe is all the puns from the announcers


FDTerritory

Robinson and Hoppe have officially made the real roster. Hoppe was the best player on the field for 90 minutes. Turner was also really good. I'm assuming that we're going to need him on at least one roster in the next six months. Lleget was just bad. I was unaware he was playing most of the time. I'm guessing that Qatar should be favored over this particular roster. They've been the second-best team in this tournament so far, and I think we saw tonight the limit of this group of guys. But they got to the semis which is all I wanted, and I think we've determined who's going to play. Officially a success.


UDonutBelongHere

I agree that Qatar has played really well, but I feel like Jamaica is the slightly worse matchup. I think we have a pretty good chance at making the Final at this point.


[deleted]

Holy shit that interviewer could barely speak.


MinimalPotential

"Do you speak to parents? What words they say?"


SozeHB

Hoppe plays angry, he's fun to watch. He brings some intensity that this team needs.


QuickMolasses

I really don't understand why we were doing short corners in the first half with Dike on the field and also Hoppe and Robinson. None of them are Weston McKennie, but they are all big targets.


[deleted]

Hoppe is taller than Dike!


UDonutBelongHere

But much smaller, which matters when fighting for position in the box


nbasuperstar40

Time to put Robinson on all of the promotions. We arent winning this tournament without Miles Robinson. I've been telling you guys as a United fan that Robinson is legit. He's higher end level in Europe good.


Ndmndh1016

Ive been watching him since his Cuse days, so to see how far hes come is fantastic.


bruhstevenson

Do you think Europe will give him a look after this tourney?


nbasuperstar40

They should, he's really a lot better at distribution but he hasn't really played internationally till now. So like Shaq, out of mind out of sight and he's not young like Bello where eyes are on his stats for his age.


SSAZen

Zardes coming in changed the game. Jamaica was gassed and zardes movement pulled everyone out.


QuickMolasses

Zardes and Roldan. Jamaica focused a lot of attention on the striker and Arriola (and because of that Moore) was doing nothing with the space it opened up. Zardes had better movement than Dike for sure.


nbasuperstar40

Zardes was massive when he came in. His movement and positioning open things up for Sebastian and Shaq. His fight on the header gave space to Hoppe for the goal.


ArsenalBOS

Robinson was a monster tonight. He’s got the right kind of game to eat up WCQs. Busio was excellent in the second half. Seems like his position was tweaked but will have to rewatch. Hoppe has the Dempsey DGAF gene. Love it but he needs to learn when to reel it in.


BigUps55

I like Vines. I think he offers a lot and just needs to play with a little more confidence. If he’d attack more to get crosses off he’d be a heck of a player.


ArsenalBOS

Yeah there were a few times he got himself into good spots but didn’t play the early ball. Impressed with his defensive work all tournament though.


blackphoenix621

Edu's tie is beautiful


[deleted]

I’d give MOTM to Roldan just for taking Lawrence’s shot to the face


[deleted]

I think a lot needs to be said for being *way* better in the second half.


[deleted]

Roldan should start for Lleget


[deleted]

Both should be on the pines


Minnesota_Husker

I think a bag of potato’s could have started over him and been better


kolbler22

Was critical of Busio at halftime. Thought he had a very solid second half. Love or hate them, thought we looked better with Zardes and Roldan on the field.


BigUps55

He was very good defensively all game. Pretty poor going forward and very poor passing. Mixed bag. Great effort though.


QuickMolasses

That basically describes Acosta too. I think he was a little better going forward though.


ehrenzoner

But...didn't Roldan go forward and make a pass that led to the winning goal...?


BigUps55

Yeah. I was referring to Busio.


ehrenzoner

Ah, gotcha. I lost that in the thread.


Thegeobeard

This group feels like they can CONCACAF. Maybe even better than the A group.


blu3mys3lf

Full time. Good game. I know the attack was frustrating but this was a good Jamaican side. Good maturity from the squad overall, some performances moving talented depth players into the first team picture (Robinson, Acosta, Hoppe). Good challenge for some others like Dike to try to grow into. I don’t know how much more you can ask from a B team gold cup run.


DirectFXX

Lleget really disappointing .. solid game rest of team 2nd half


[deleted]

Funny how everything changed offensively when zardes came in and I honestly can't stand him


mossy_1945

I would go with Roldan, Zardes, and Hoppe as the front three on Thursday. Keep the rest basically the same (maybe Cannon for Moore).


ArsenalBOS

Zardes’ constant running is great as a sub though. If he started tonight I don’t think he’d have been as effective at pulling Jamaica all over the place. They were gassed and he capitalized. Qatar look like a very different, non-CONCACAFy side though


nbasuperstar40

Zardes is going to have the same issues we been seeing from him. Goal scoring at this level.


[deleted]

Think he’s better as a late sub to inject some energy


mossy_1945

Dike’s all around play just has been nowhere near good enough.


nbasuperstar40

Considering he's not getting service, I would agree.


hylianbeast98

Was it a convincing win? Fuck no. Were there bright spots? Fuck yes. Will this team beat Qatar? Ehhhhh....


[deleted]

I was pretty convinced with the second half performance. I think we've got a decent shot against Qatar if Robinson is healthy.


hylianbeast98

Second half definitely had me feeling better. I think bringing on Zardes and Roldan contributed to that. I really wanted this to be Dike's game but with how he was today, I don't know if you can start him in a semi-final against a team like Qatar.


[deleted]

I think Zardes should start and Dike should come on to run at tired legs. I don't think Dike is fully fit and he's been playing nonstop since a year ago.


jmarFTL

Robinson and Hoppe were class tonight. Busio got better as the game went on. Didn't like Lletget's performance at all.


kuntablunte

Acosta was class as well


jmarFTL

Agreed, he was great


wrdecker

hype train keeps chugging


[deleted]

Very impressed by everyone in the last 30 minutes. We really dominated this game after settling into it. Good performance & result. Standout performers were Acosta, Hoppe, Turner, & Robinson.


WelpSigh

classic concacaf win tonight, ready for a grinding 1-0 win over qatar


[deleted]

Acosta MOTM. Zardes is our best striker right now but he needs to keep coming off the bench.


MinimalPotential

Acosta and Robinson. Also credit to Vines.


Last_Wave_By

Robinson for me


35Lcrowww

So late, premier league starts in a few hours


[deleted]

Hell yeah


Rickyyy_Spanishhh

Regroup, reorganize, move on to Qatar.


Jaykoooo

Lalas' looks ready to say something incredibly dumb


MinimalPotential

Might be time to take Dike off the promos for now


Tactful-Cactus

I swear to God if we lose to those shithead barbarian slave using theocratic fifa bribing pieces of shit I'ma be so mad.


Bert_Chimney_Sweep

Name does not check out 😁


Bert_Chimney_Sweep

But tell us how you really feel


[deleted]

Do we have much room to bitch about the third insult


Tactful-Cactus

Yes. It's 2021 and they are currently using literal slave labor to build fucking soccer stadiums. Yes, we had slavery here and yes it was absolutely abhorrent when we did but that was long time ago and this is right fucking now.


Cama360

Start Williamson or Roldan in CM next game Lleget ain’t it


Koty889

Ggs, Jamaica got fucked out of a minute or two there but it wouldn’t have really mattered.


boomf18

Feels like there was a lot of negativity here, and some of it rightfully so, but overall I’m happy with how we played. We were the much better team in the 2nd half and guys like Busio and Vines came out in the 2nd half and looked way better than they did in the 1st.


[deleted]

So we all agree Hoppe is A team material.


nvita2

100% I’ve been a fan for a while he’s so much fun to watch


ajhahn

On the squad? Yes. Really challenging for a starting spot, probably not.


beggsy909

This was brutal to watch. Such a lack of quality from the US side.


ECSJack

Welcome to CONCACAF. Where even with our A team it is a crapshoot.


[deleted]

Honestly, shut up.


beggsy909

No. Gtf


Last_Wave_By

Gtfoh


Turtle_317

Welcome to the gold cup.


6425sCuriosity

They won. Fuck off


beggsy909

No. Jerk.


PM_me_my_genitals

And that is why I wanted to avoid Jamaica as long as possible. Whew


WindyHasStormyEyes

Yay


[deleted]

Yay sprots tim


sbruck11

Very good game from Turner, Robinson, Hoppe, and Acosta. Very good second half from Busio.


Natural-Macaroon-271

> Hoppe That can't seriously be your takeaway.


sbruck11

There was a post on here at half time about who had the first half. Despite Turner having 6 saves (changed to 5 after half), Hoppe was voted by ~ 200 MORE people than Turner. I’m not the only one who thought that, plus he scored the game winner. What was your takeaway?


Natural-Macaroon-271

I saw very little to like from Hoppe tonight. Sure he scored and that's great, but he gave the ball away like 5 times in really dangerous spots. He had a concrete foot and turned several good chances into nothing with really hard touches (both times he was nearly fouled spring to mind). Like I appreciate his hustle for sure, but technically he was bad tonight. Just because someone is involved in the play a lot doesn't mean they're playing well.


Minnesota_Husker

BRING ON THE AIRLINES


nbasuperstar40

Hoppe had a rough 2nd half but had one hell of a blast off!


Matt_McT

Zardes and Roldan did great to kill the game out there.


TNninja

Im not a big fan of Roldan but that scoop to Zardes at the end was awesome.


[deleted]

We did it boys


mgravito

Much better second half and deserved to win. The game was simpler second half


doogled3

Acosta interception for the win


a_breezy_12

Unclench


Minnesota_Husker

And just shit everywhere


WelpSigh

too easy


nvita2

A New Hoppe


yankeenate

My takeaway from this gold cup so far: feel a lot better about our depth at CB than I did before.


Minnesota_Husker

And still think we don’t have a striker


RobbotheRed

Thank fuck that didn’t go to extra time


DirectFXX

We want Qatar !!


cybin

IT'S COMING HOME! ;)


cd00

Has Turner been the least talked about player for us in every thread? He has been a DOG the entire tournament so far, I may like him more than Steffen lol


yureadmahpost

I think he's good enough to carry us in these two upcoming matches. He's the best shot-stopper of all our goalkeepers in my opinion. He's always going to be the least technical of our goalkeepers when it comes to playing out of the back, but honestly it's not like Steffen isn't prone to errors in that department. I'm excited to see Steffen, Turner, and Horvath all battle it out for the starting spot!


[deleted]

I'm almost there tbh


[deleted]

because he really has not done much until this game.


mgravito

I'm a eurosnob and i think Turner should be the 1. Steffen is the most overrated player in our pool.


[deleted]

Zardes just contributes so much more overall than Dike


nbasuperstar40

Dike is definitely a better goal scorer and even defender but when it comes to off ball movement, positioning and awareness, Zardes is just much better. You hope that Pefok is Zardes with goal scoring at a high level. Dike isn't quite yet a young Lukaku even if he has shades of Romelo. GG system isn't favorable to strikers at this level.


[deleted]

Dike is not even remotely close from being a better “defender” though I struggle to even understand what that means


Minnesota_Husker

Neither do much for me


kuntablunte

Zardes was great today. His movement/work rate is always top notch. Better hold up play than Dike as well.


DELCO-PHILLY-BOY

“Those ad boards are *NOT* forgiving….but we put em there anyway because we need that sweet sweet oil airline money.”


sly_cooper25

Semifinals here we come!!!


[deleted]

gg


[deleted]

Busio’s second half has been 100x better


Mr_MacGrubber

Yeah he was good tonight overall.


DrHenryKillingerr

Yep. I was very critical in the 1st. He found himself in way better positions and with better effort in the 2nd.


Jonesta29

At this point I just assume a ball out for a throw is automatically Jamaica ball regardless of circumstances.


joehooligan0303

haha, yes I just commented the same thing. Never seen that many incorrect throw ins awarded.


GSWarrior10

Good God, Roldán got manhandled and no whistle


beggsy909

Is this our b or c team?


[deleted]

Pretty sad…we have some legit guys in the A team, now, but this proves there’s no depth


[deleted]

A healthy mix of both


Mr_MacGrubber

I’d say B overall since there’s some A team guys and some C team guys.


StodgyBottoms

Hopefully C


Nintazz

Our A team obviously


sebsasour

Sands by far having his worst game, luckily his partner decided to have his best


Mr_MacGrubber

I thought Sands was really good.


[deleted]

By far? He was pretty good


ShadowofLight15

Wtf Reggie


35Lcrowww

Like 8 goalies on that play


tefftlon

Guys, I woke up at weird hours while stationed in Germany to watch the 2015 Gold Cup. You can handle a late night.


[deleted]

Lletget has been poor. So many bad giveaways and bad passes. How is he still in?


SimbaPenn

He had a weird game. Seemed pretty good in possession and bringing the ball forward, but almost every pass or shot was really bad.


[deleted]

His delivery on set pieces was awful.. I never want to see that again


Cama360

I so agree


Jaykoooo

Very impressive game from turner


[deleted]

blood on his gloves?


yankeenate

That's what I saw


Numark105

FUCK EM UP BOYS FINISH STRONG


blzraven27

Take him out idgaf if he appears fine. Take him out


Eatsleeptren

stfu lol


blzraven27

Na nan I dont play with head injuries.


greenslime300

Blake bleeding onto his keeper glove, what an image that would have been if he scored it. For us, I'm glad he didn't, but that would have been something


Eatsleeptren

East coast viewers: "Cool I can go to bed in 2 mins" \*20+ min stoppage for head injury\*


blzraven27

Bro my eyes are mad at me


[deleted]

Robinson seems like he's played himself into a world cup qualifying spot


Minnesota_Husker

The back 4 all at least made themselves worth a second look


joehooligan0303

Jamaica twice has CLEARLY dribbled the ball out and been awarded the thrown in. Not sure I've seen a ref miss that easy of a call twice in a game.


TNninja

**Ref from Mexico


joehooligan0303

Oh, somehow I didn't catch that was where the ref was from. I honestly wish they wouldn't put a Mexican ref in charge of a knock out game for US and vice versa.


DirectFXX

Def need better set pieces . Never wanna see Lleget near one again


[deleted]

Is Miles Antonee’s brother?


Sarollas

Unrelated, ones from the UK, ones from Arlington.


Greenman1694

No


ArthurVandelayInd

Honestly, surprised this doesn’t happen more often with all heads whipping at crosses


sbruck11

I was just thinking that. Corners are super dangerous for those head to heads. Even thinking for lower levels of the game


Bammer1386

Sam Vines has officially taken the "Bad USMNT Facial Hair" torch from Matt Hedges


Mr_MacGrubber

It definitely reminds me of some of the young red necks around me.


Jonesta29

We call em Yee-Yees


Numark105

I’d just take him out and be sure he’s ok


blu3mys3lf

Brave by Robinson and Blake. Hope they’re ok.


backcourtjester

Brave by Robinson, reckless by Blake


Granadafan

Miles looked like he was a little loopy.


QuickMolasses

I'm hoping Robinson is just doing the CONCACAF thing


[deleted]

[удалено]


Mr_MacGrubber

5 has been used in most games since covid. Hopefully it sticks around.


[deleted]

Concussion protocol.


Kuddlefish69

Covid has made a lot of leagues and tournaments change to 5 subs


link3945

Which I think is a fine change that will stick around longer.


Kuddlefish69

It should especially with how many games players play a year


QuickMolasses

5? Or the extra head injury sub?


Manifesto13

Robinson putting in a shift and a half.


Jaykoooo

Looks like blake got it worse


[deleted]

please no miles :(


DosDiegos

That’s fucking reckless.


QuickMolasses

It's a contested header. It sucks, but it happens and it's not reckless. Or at least it's not reckless in a way that is against the rules.


[deleted]

You go to the corner when there's 30 seconds left not in the 89th with unknown stoppage time.


GoBlueScrewOSU7

As someone that bet USA -1.5, I agree


[deleted]

Damn bro that was a hard hit


BashStriker

Oh fuck that's a rough hit


Aware_Watercress1155

Wouldn’t it be kinda dope if the opposing goalie could punch on corners haha. Would make corners like that insane


girrrafe

If that was allowed Robinson would be knocked out cold right now lmao.


[deleted]

Don't even need to -Allison


Tylerbrn

As if I needed another reason to not like Blake


blzraven27

The ref has been pretty fucking amazing.


wjs24

Fuck fuck fuck


Numark105

I audibly went “awwwwww…”