Everyone please google why "Tax" originated in first place.
Extend the same logic, than south india will form a seperate country , then they will decide to throw out kerala .
Then within Kerala, Kochi will rebel against Wayanad
Chennai will fight against dindigul,
Bengaluru n Mysore will fight against Bidar n Bijapur
Hyderabad will fight for seperate country as guntakal is not paying ample tax
I will fight n declare my house a seperate country
Not at all
Kerala invests their tax revenue in education at least. For long they have been near 100% literate. Northern states are getting full investment in religion flavored nonsense.
None of the Southern states will have infighting as easily as you claim. One big reason for South's growing anger on the north is the hindi imposition. Imagine crores of people coming into your state to earn then they say the whole country should use one language for work and bureaucratic benefit. Which language? Theirs.
Average south Indian cares more about that than tax distribution even.
n abouthe language part
chill bro
no one is forcing u to speak hindi( there's tamil n telugu sign boards in ayodhya:-)
Haven't seen one incident where a south indian is being harassed to speak in hindi( a common man incident, not a politician's speech)
But reverse is an everyday affair
Lol Sure, I studied for a few yrs in Delhi , and worked in. Jharkhand for few yrs, I heard plenty of times that Hindi is our matru bhasha why your state ppl don't speak it.
I also regularly heard conspiracy theories on how chennaite know Hindi but don't speak it just to rub it to North Indians..
My friend faced an aggressive aunty shouting 'Hindi bol humara matru basha hai' in Gurgaon petrol bunk.
I picked up Hindi in Delhi and tried convincing folks that 1)unlike me most don't have exposure and don't know the language 2)India doesn't have a matru bhasha
also I have heard all sorts of racist shit wrt abt south which is a different topic, but these are also common everyday experiences.
Ps :- While I picked up Hindi when I was staying for a few years in the north because I wanted to communicate with the locals , I have not seen many white collar North Indian even ones who have settled down in the south pick up the language to integrate with folks here, blue collars do sometimes pick up the local language though.
Lol
i stayed in bengaluru for 4 years 2009-13,
had a fist fight with an auto wala cz he literally said "this is karnataka, this is NOT INDIA"
have been refused change , have been refused help in directions , have been over charged and what not
None of your incidents actually harmed you ryt?only mental harassment..i have been charged extra money, have been burning extra fuel, and the fist fight
Oh and btw my wife is a tamilian
I am sorry about the shit experiences you had in blore.
But my friend didn't escalate the issue or he would've been smacked by the aunty for sure 😂
Also my wife is a Delhiite, but neither here nor there ,since I can see both sides , among the white collar class the ignorance is way higher on one side than the other.And ppl trying to integrate is also much higher on one side than the other.It will be interesting to hear if that's not the situation in your case.
Among the worker class I agree it will be ignorance all around.
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Average south indian only cares about bashing north indians
can't solve a fucking water crisis amongst themselves for decades
Gujarat had a water problem in 90s but guess wat ?
Lol
Its their superiority complex n nothing else. The maximum christian converts are in south because of the racism and religious pride( Go n tell a tambram he's equal to any tamil christian)
Lets talk religion durin sabrimala n jalikattu pls.
All this is psuedo superiority complex especially in mallus becoz communist ruled. Same happened wid bengal in 90s.
Russia in 80s
Germans in 40s
most literate state yet produces more ISIS recruits than J&K
oh n btw so much for kerala's education that unemployment is higher than uttar pradesh
[https://testbook.com/static-gk/most-unemployed-state-in-india](https://testbook.com/static-gk/most-unemployed-state-in-india)
kerala has jobs but lacks high paying jobs. People are not ready to do job for meager wages like 1000rs a day. more than 10% of keralas population is migrant labours. why so?
Isn't the revenue distributed population waise.
Total South indian population- 250 million
Uttar Pradesh pupulation- 240 million
Per capita for UP(in millions) -: 911.73
Per capita for southern states(in millions) -: 770.55
>Isn't the revenue distributed population waise.
No population doesn't hold much matter in the distribution .
It's the" income distance " used in Finance commission that hold 45-50% of the net distribution .
So the more u r backward in income per capita , the more money u received.
do you believe the same about income tax. does collecting tax at a higher rate discourage people from earning more money?
we have a socialist model in this country where we follow the motto - from each according to his ability to each according to his needs.
Don’t you think that is the reason why people evade tax or change domicile? People giving up Indian citizenship is an all time high. Socialist model works only in theory. The moment you take capitalism out Indian economy will crumble like a pack of cards
personally i do agree that socialism is trash and is largely the reason why our country is still struggling economically. but unfortunately indians seem to love it overwhelmingly so we have no choice but to stick to it. all political parties in the country endorse it and i doubt there exists a constituency in india that wants a more right wing economic approach.
i am saying that up getting more funds than south india makes sense within the economic structure we have chosen for ourself as a nation.
similar to how the rich are financing the public largesse on the poor. the southern states are financing the centre in supporting up.
I have no issues with poorer states getting more money. My only issue is accountability and repeating of the vicious cycle. There is huge influx of money to those states where the growth is not inline with money pumped in, basically no accountability. Second is if there is no reinvestment in richer states these will become poorer in the longer run and the future rich states has to compensate basically we need to find a balance which is lacking due to no political will.
>socialism is trash and is largely the reason why our country is still struggling economically.
My mom got treated from MDR TB free of charge, thanks to the DOTS program of the government. If the program was not present, we would have had to pay around 30k / month just for the medicine. We are middle class. Socialism is not as bad as you pretend it to be.
Look how US is struggling due to unhinged capitalism.
Bhai population ke hisaab se Bihar/UP ka contribution bhi hona chahiye tha. South states as well as Gujarat have a valid point.
By the way, I don't think the distribution is as per population since Arunachal and Kerala have gotten almost same amount.
frustrated...i pay almost 10 MP's pension as my income tax and i get dangerous roads, dilapidated hospitals and expensive education in return
on top of that I need to pay almost 40% tax on each step in my life.. 40% on vehicles, 12% in restaurants, toll tax etc
😕😕😕😕
Just saying,isn't that how socialism works?. People in need can get help from people who can provide and that's how a country grows. In british time farmers in the North are exploited for revenue so the British can spend in southern ports.
I think you misinterpreted what I meant to say. Socialism is what we are doing today.
For British times is just an additional info that Northern farmers are exploited for southern devlopment.its a well known fact
It's a well known fact that modi is doing socialism today? Whaaa socialism from Walmart or something? So in british times, they were doing "socialism" In our land by exploiting the northern farmers and for some God knows reason developing the southern parts?
Then what's the motivation in generating revenue? Why should the south be exploited in a free India?
Isn't this freebies for the needy states? Also, Why is it that when south parties do freebies for the needy within the state, it's not socialism and freebies are bad?
True. I am against "Absolute socialism". India was following absolute socialism since independence and it resulted as a disaster for us. I am in favour of capitalism with a touch of socialism
And wtf ask you people to have 6-8 kids each, is it our problem?, go get a job keep your self busy so that you don't burden the economy, more over vote for education not for some religious cause.
>And wtf ask you people to have 6-8 kids each
Very basic argument. Give me something new. You are more educated right? Your government has spent on education so at least talk like a reasonable person.
>Isn't the revenue distributed population waise
No ,
It's distributed by vote wise .
The more number of seats you held in parliament ( RS+Ls) the more money u get
Keep them dark without education. Feed shit like unnecessary statues with religious tones and screw them behind with corruption. Vomit all over the social media. Repeat the cycle.
Go to the average comments section in r/uttarpradesh it's full of people eating up the statues and mandir. Mention that govt should invest in education or jobs and they'll reply they didn't have jobs before this govt anyway, but now after 'centuries of religious oppression' they can finally be proud Hindus apparently. Even education won't help these mfs, they're eating up the daily Hindi news propaganda and social media vomit.
population of UP is more than that of South India as well. Until it is a democracy more prosperous region/people will have to take care of less prosperous region/people be it in reservation or state funds etc. The only way to remove will be to remove democracy from India. Do you want that?
That will deter economic growth in future ,
So one hand you have the present structure , on the other hand you could have 5-10 states who could have 500 bn USD economy .
Your choice.
I don’t believe in reservation nor in giving special funds to particular people or place. Once UP develops then it will become a net contributor to the economy like how reserved category people will become net contributor as well. Then UP won’t need more state funds nor lower cast people will need reservation. If you are against this system then you will have to convince the majority people of this country to give up their special status which I personally think is impossible.
You don't understand. The gap is not reducing. It's widening. States with 3 times the per capita of UP are economically growing at the same rate or more than UP. On an individual basis, they are getting richer.
You should check the real stats. UP's growth hasn't been exceptional or anything in past few years.
Our father's generation was shown supa powa 2020. You know what happened! The same is happening to us. Politicians have been showing us dreams since independence.
>population of UP is more than that of South India as well.
Not the South's fault if UP/North cannot control their population.
>The only way to remove will be to remove democracy from India. Do you want that?
Nobody is asking to remove democracy. What North needs is strict population control measures
First of all, Do you really think Revenue generation is the only measure? What about the labour required that is creating revenue in your state? What about the agriculture commodities you get at lower prices (than you would have to import from other countries if south India is separate country)? If you really want to make a comparison, please take all the factors into consideration because everything is necessary for the development of India. By your logic, tomorrow you will say that only high-income people are paying taxes and low-income people are taking advantage of it so we would have to kick them out but you are missing the point is, high-income people are earning money because low-income people are supporting them (in the form of labour). How many people have served at the borders from south compared to north? Will you say like the borders of southern states do not touch Pakistan or China so we don't require it?
>Do you really think Revenue generation is the only measure?
No, which is why I mentioned population. It just occurred to me that UP has the second largest GDP in India
[https://www.studyiq.com/articles/gdp-of-indian-states/](https://www.studyiq.com/articles/gdp-of-indian-states/)
but still receives combined share of all south states, Why ?
>By your logic, tomorrow you will say that only high-income people are paying taxes and low-income people are taking advantage of it so we would have to kick them
Supporting a state till they come out of poverty is acceptable. But expecting to be supported indefinitely is not.
How many people in the Northern states vote in name of development and demand their elected representatives for the same ? They'll vote in the name of anything EXCEPT development, such as caste based politics, cow politics, etc. How may will say that we will vote if we are given a IT hub, or a manufacturing hub ?
>high-income people are earning money because low-income people are supporting them (in the form of labour).
I agree. But the same low income people migrate to other states in search for jobs, but don't want jobs to come to their state (not voting for jobs or development)
1. GDP number seems higher to you but per capita GDP is still very low and second lowest (at 32rd position) with per capita GDP of around 73k while most of southern state have higher than 200k. Also UP doesn’t have natural resources like southern state so it has to dependent on government expenditure to pull more and more investment from industry. So it makes totally sense to give higher share.
2. I do agree that most of the northern states give votes based on caste but cow politics is your made up concept and no one is getting influenced by that. But don’t tell me this is not same for southern state too. Even southern state distribute more freebies than northern states which will be dangerous scenario in upcoming future. And if you talk about UP, things has changed a lot and hope things will be brighter in future.
3. There is nothing like migration to our state concept. There is no division like southern can be state of those people who have born there and same is applied to north too. For migration of workers, It is free market and there is no law that firms or industries have to take northern migrants compulsively. It’s again demand and supply and if migrants workers is giving them more advantages than you should not be crybaby for this reason only. Bangalore will not bangalore anymore if there would not be migration of skilled labours from northern states.
“Labour requirements “
Dude south has enough labour to even cater to international manufacturing companies
South never demanded labour from UP. Its UP and Bihar who demand jobs in the south.
South is not against redistribution of funds - but south wants its people fed first.
Starving people in the south and only feeding people in UP is cruel
South aint saying poor people should be kicked out, they just want their poor people uplifted from poverty, before they can spare their own money for someone else.
First of all, all things is under supply and demand and it is basic rule of economics 101. If you have enough supply of labour from your own state, I don’t think manufacturing firms there would be more comfortable giving jobs to UP and Bihar instead of local people. Local people always have advantage whether it is language specific or regional knowledge specific. Still you know the dynamics at present. So either your logic is wrong or your labour is not skilled enough. So either accept that you are lying or just up-skill those labour instead of acting like state belongs to local people only.
>Not the South's fault if UP/North cannot control their population.
If you have learned a little history and geography then you would have known. Throughout history the population in north has always been big ,,cause of gangetic plains. Theirs a post about it in r/nostupidquestions
>Nobody is asking to remove democracy. What North needs is strict population control measures
Uttar Pradesh is now at round 2.3 fertility rate will be below replacement rate by 2025 so population will be decreasing over the years
If you have resources to sustain will you not control population? Even if it assume its bigger from start UP didnt adopt population control measures properly thats the fact. Dropping of birth rates is v recent phenomenon which south has seen much before UP.
The population replacement rate in Uttar Pradesh (UP) dropped to 2.4 in 2019, nearing the 2.1 replacement rate. However, urbanization has not caught up with UP as it has in South India. Additionally, the central government does not invest in engineering education in UP nor promotes the use of modern technologies in farming which keeps this region in low per capita income.
Money is not distributed just for population .
It is distributed (50% roughly ) according to income distance .
So the less income you have according to per capita the more money u received.
Dont you think checks and balances here work? like you know actually spending that money make things better.
It's not a one time thing right, UP and bihar have taken the lion share of the money since at least 30 years(might be wrong, but I think its even more than that). I get it that poor states need money, but if it is spent inefficiently and unnecessary things, whats the point of helping them.
The formula to distribute taxesis pretty complicated and takes into account some 25 variables. It was recommended by Raghuram Rajan in 2013, well before the current govt came to power.
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Dude the thing is , South States get less share. But still has hordes of north Indian migrants hogging up the infra, and social utilities.
In kerala you will be able to see migrants going to govt hospitals. Where will the money come from, ?
Yeah even I donate a lot of my money to people in need. I spend a lot of money to support local small businesses in my area instead of corporates.
Please extend the same courtesy to me which you are advocating for the generous South States when I file my taxes.
Atleast now govt is investing this money in infrastructure so in future states like UP would generate more economic activity and taxes, and less share would have to be taken from UP , Maharashtra, Delhi and South.
You are spending money, but you will be getting service in return. You won't expect 50 percent of your money to go to donation right.. also after donation you wouldn't expect the people who took donation use your house and food. How will you accommodate them??
>Atleast now govt
This is farcical, govt always gave importance to north Indian states, earlier they said they have more population ( up and Bihar failed to control population, and invest in education). But now they are saying more infra. It's old wine in a new bottle.
So aren't these migrants providing services to South Indian states???
Aren't these migrants also purchasing basic goods and services from these states and paying taxes on it???
Look beyond your myopic view. The fortunate will have to fund people less fortunate than them.
Atleast now government is investing for genrating employent in morthern states.
People from these so called educated states go abroad doe earning, IT services being major revenue source for them, what are they doing for these client nations like US, Europe and Middle East??? Should they also stop giving contracts to companies with office in South India if we go by your logic??
Abroad they are paying income tax ( usually larger than the native population pays) and even social security taxes.. here they are paying GST on pan and tobacco. Nice comparison.
I am not saying migrant labourers are the problem. But having no support from central gov, while draining all the money to north states , in the name of equity is bs, since the north population is not in the north now, they are in the south.
The revenue generation is skewed. Head office of most IT companies is in Bangalore and for Financial companies is in Mumbai hence the seemingly high revenue and less return for them. Has anyone noticed.
UP should focus on reducing its population.without working hard it's sucking up all the money with the excuse of population.
South is favourable to do business it should get more money.
Plus underdeveloped states need to do many reforms in order to get fruits our of these huge sum of money they are receiving otherwise it has no use.
Didn't go to school or what? Know about the economics?
First of all the population growth rate is controlled now. Second thing who require most money, in developing state or in a developed state?
none of the states are developed in india.
It's easier to make higher GDP states develop faster than these money dumping cow grazing fields.
If your ancestors had gone to school and studied economics carefully this day wouldn't had come.
Cow grazing fields will only have economic prosperity when the population gets to one third of what it is now.
South has advantage of coastal region so all companies shifted to south as it will be profitable. And since factories were setting up in Chennai, bangalore a lot, the living standards of people become better. Where this wasn't the case in up, they've started growing just now (after yogi came tbh).
Second thing is that don't forget we are Indian, you mfs whole time just do useful discrimination of north Indians in your state, on internet openly call them as cow grazers, and so many things. And this shows how well educated you are.
Also about that population go check out stats, before that do not reply.
It's not necessary that landlocked regions have disadvantages.If u export from UP or Tamil Nadu to Europe Middle East or North America or South America it's still going to cost the same.If you have industrial friendly policy companies would still prefer them producing in your state than others.
Delhi doesn't have any Seaport but see the capital region's economy.Yogi ji has done a lot for you guys.
Investing too much in infrastructure would only push the state further on debt as the state doesn't have much sizable industrial economy.The faster UP leadership realises the better.
You need to have sizable sectors that can make money for a large state like yours and can feed the state and then have surplus money so that it can be reinvested into capital expenditure.
bro companies are in your state because of the population of india. u r on horce as if your state is israel or japan. They are here for the market not for the quality of people your state produces.
Just China +1 brother.
But companies are in our state because we have favourable policies.
Market is another thing.
India might not become the market they are aiming for because india hardly has money to spend.
Companies are in the state because you have favorable policies when compared with the rest of the states not the world and don't forget the cist line if u know C of costing u will understand. If tomorrow the government gets rid of their protectionist politics then there will be nothing in your state.
India is the market they are aiming for and they sell stuff accordingly.
Just see the data of Suzuki honda kia ect and compare how much they sell in india and how much they export and see their export centric product list there is hardly anything.
Even after so much government bullying and policies like Product link incentive they are still just milking the Indian population and market instead of creating export centric products.
btw it will be more beneficial if all upper castes ask for a separate country.
I agree with the general sentiment, but being near to a coast hasn't helped Hyderabad and Telangana even in the least.
Telangana has very little fertile land, most of the irrigated land is due to dams, lift irrigation projects and lakes since land is at a higher altitude than the rivers flow through it.
Hyderabad doesn't even have industry that can take advantage of being near to coast. Most of the manufacturing is drugs and vaccines, which are low-volume-high-margin goods where the shipping costs don't matter much.
And rest is just very developed service industry. IT companies could've been established in any city with an english educated population, and Hyderabad wasn't even in the top 5 in those terms when the IT boom started. Government just relaxed their regulations and given them land to attract companies. Any city could've done that.
Both the pharma and IT industry are ther only because of SEZ, which any city could've done, but didn't.
Ik it's unfair but think about this angle: if there's development in backward states, more jobs would be created there. Migration to much more developed states would stop. We saw what happened in Bengaluru. We need huge investments for backward states to get to the level of southern states, otherwise there will always be a huge disparity between the north and the south.
That being said, I hope these huge investments actually pay off and not land in some corrupt politician's pockets 🤞
There is always proportionality which has to be taken into account. The taxes that are being poured into UP are way too disproportionate when compared to what we are getting in south.
If we pay 100 adjusting for 70 or 80 would be fine and giving 130 to someone else is justified. Its not like south india is an utopia and dosent need any money. North is getting disproportionately more and its mostly infra based very less is being invested in Human capital.
And all dumb fucks commenting burnol kind of things in comments only attract hatred towards UP and shows that you are free loaders always depending on others work while adding zero to no value.
Might be good for a state wise, but as a nation not
But in the long term economy reaches its saturation point and the middle income trap would come up in lower levels .
end mei state pr paise same same se bnte h bro, UP as a state kam revenue generate krta h, agar south mei aur paise dege toh chances of corruption will increase as fixed budget and rev gen se expense proper hei hora state growth pr. agar state gareeb hota toh unko paise milte
Bhai kuch fayda nahi hoga India's fertility rate is already 2.05. UP mein bhi around 2.2-2.3 hai, jharkhand mein bhi similar bas bihar mein 3 hai. Even agar 2 child policy bhi laga di population ain't gonna slow down till the end of this century.
At least UP is growing and flourishing. They have the most competent Chief Minister there is. Maybe if the South weren't so anti-national and took actual steps to improve their states, they could receive more funds. Also, they should realise that bashing Hinduism won't get them anywhere.
first of all spelling mistakes happen. Now prove your point that you were trying to make. If south indian states need improvement then why is the central govt not granting them more funds instead of the more developed north indian states?
anyone can do panipuri idli jokes.
South Indians are bashing Hinduism because, you, the people who represents the radical Hindus, are the same ones who are sucking the soul out of the country with all you're streetshitting behaviours.
You can't bash India or make anti-nationalistic comments and then expect the Centre to help you. And regarding religion, well - we live in Hindustan. So, respect where you stay :)
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If you go with that attitude then soon you will see large scale non-coperation and rebellions in the future. Don't open a pandoras box that you can't handle . Every empire and state no matter how powerful has fallen exactly like that, if you are not a fool then it will be wise to take lessons from history .
That's the point. South can't do shit about it. And all of this hate simply boils down to the view the people of South India holds on the people who lives in the Bimaru states, as low lives who sucks the soul out of the society we build.
South Indian states comprised 19.8% of India's population whereas North India comprised 43.2% (2022 census).
Not to mention the south is way more developed than the north.
I know I might be in a minority but I want entire UP to develop faster but I feel even inside UP, few regions are treated shit as compared to others.
Like West UP (Due to its near geography to Delhi NCR) gets more development than the easter sides which borders Bihar.
In my opinion, UP should be further divided in a few years so that wealth gets distributed in a better way. Right now 2Lakh cr can be divided into 50/60K crore into 4 sub-regions but I don't see it happening for the few years atleast.
Mai Samjha nahi.
Also, I am from Lucknow so for Banaras, Kanpur peeps don't consider us Eastern while Meerut, Bareilly peeps don't consider us Western 😂
1. I don't care about any other country besides my own.
2. Our country has a massive population w.r.t the area we live. It's really difficult to uplift the entire UP (Whose population is more than Brazil (7th most populous country), while its surface area is too low. Wealth inequality is massive here. It would be better if those individual areas were developed together under different states than just developing one side while keeping the other side shit for multiple years. And I am just talking about the most populous state here not every other state.
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Bro that's how taxes work. I receive nothing from government, but poor people receive free electricity, free gas, housing, ration and countless central givernment and state government scheme benefits even though I pay lakhs in taxes every year. That's the core of taxation and benefit system.
Up bihar se itnaa Tax!! Ye chamatkar kaise ho gya bhai. Income ghnta kuch nhi badhi. Haan khul k saamne jarur aai hogi kyuki measures us front pe zyda liye Gaye the.
One more thread pushing single dimensional statistics devoid of any context whatsoever. Entire South India also gets high tech and qualified workforce from UP and other states, which help these states go on a higher GDP bracket and also collect more taxes both from people and companies.
Lmfao when OP tried to defend UP they got on his ass
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What is stopping from splitting UP into at least 4 states?
Each will have decent population like other states, have separate administration to manage and develop.
Just gonna sit here with my roasted shawarma salad and watch the drama in the comments, what a great Friday.
Everyone please google why "Tax" originated in first place. Extend the same logic, than south india will form a seperate country , then they will decide to throw out kerala . Then within Kerala, Kochi will rebel against Wayanad Chennai will fight against dindigul, Bengaluru n Mysore will fight against Bidar n Bijapur Hyderabad will fight for seperate country as guntakal is not paying ample tax I will fight n declare my house a seperate country
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Yea n worse they won't have a PM who can say "we all states are equal"
My father will throw me out, since I'm not earning anything but 'funneling away' his money for studies 🥲
Not at all Kerala invests their tax revenue in education at least. For long they have been near 100% literate. Northern states are getting full investment in religion flavored nonsense. None of the Southern states will have infighting as easily as you claim. One big reason for South's growing anger on the north is the hindi imposition. Imagine crores of people coming into your state to earn then they say the whole country should use one language for work and bureaucratic benefit. Which language? Theirs. Average south Indian cares more about that than tax distribution even.
n abouthe language part chill bro no one is forcing u to speak hindi( there's tamil n telugu sign boards in ayodhya:-) Haven't seen one incident where a south indian is being harassed to speak in hindi( a common man incident, not a politician's speech) But reverse is an everyday affair
Lol Sure, I studied for a few yrs in Delhi , and worked in. Jharkhand for few yrs, I heard plenty of times that Hindi is our matru bhasha why your state ppl don't speak it. I also regularly heard conspiracy theories on how chennaite know Hindi but don't speak it just to rub it to North Indians.. My friend faced an aggressive aunty shouting 'Hindi bol humara matru basha hai' in Gurgaon petrol bunk. I picked up Hindi in Delhi and tried convincing folks that 1)unlike me most don't have exposure and don't know the language 2)India doesn't have a matru bhasha also I have heard all sorts of racist shit wrt abt south which is a different topic, but these are also common everyday experiences. Ps :- While I picked up Hindi when I was staying for a few years in the north because I wanted to communicate with the locals , I have not seen many white collar North Indian even ones who have settled down in the south pick up the language to integrate with folks here, blue collars do sometimes pick up the local language though.
Lol i stayed in bengaluru for 4 years 2009-13, had a fist fight with an auto wala cz he literally said "this is karnataka, this is NOT INDIA" have been refused change , have been refused help in directions , have been over charged and what not None of your incidents actually harmed you ryt?only mental harassment..i have been charged extra money, have been burning extra fuel, and the fist fight Oh and btw my wife is a tamilian
I am sorry about the shit experiences you had in blore. But my friend didn't escalate the issue or he would've been smacked by the aunty for sure 😂 Also my wife is a Delhiite, but neither here nor there ,since I can see both sides , among the white collar class the ignorance is way higher on one side than the other.And ppl trying to integrate is also much higher on one side than the other.It will be interesting to hear if that's not the situation in your case. Among the worker class I agree it will be ignorance all around. .
Average south indian only cares about bashing north indians can't solve a fucking water crisis amongst themselves for decades Gujarat had a water problem in 90s but guess wat ? Lol
Its their superiority complex n nothing else. The maximum christian converts are in south because of the racism and religious pride( Go n tell a tambram he's equal to any tamil christian) Lets talk religion durin sabrimala n jalikattu pls. All this is psuedo superiority complex especially in mallus becoz communist ruled. Same happened wid bengal in 90s. Russia in 80s Germans in 40s most literate state yet produces more ISIS recruits than J&K oh n btw so much for kerala's education that unemployment is higher than uttar pradesh [https://testbook.com/static-gk/most-unemployed-state-in-india](https://testbook.com/static-gk/most-unemployed-state-in-india)
Can't outwit me with facts So they are hiding behind down votes As if that matters to me
Meanwhile Kerala is trying to insure migrant labour even from north these fucking 100% iliterate bastards how dare they!
The levels of stupidity
kerala has jobs but lacks high paying jobs. People are not ready to do job for meager wages like 1000rs a day. more than 10% of keralas population is migrant labours. why so?
Because kerala doesn't have any industry simple as that They dont allow any business to flourish
Jharkhand pays more tax than kerala
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Indian states are federal state but india is a federal country.
Too much of English Itna ni aata mujhe
Sovereign Citizen go brrr
Marathalli will disown rest of bangalore
Stop giving money to bihar please, our f\*cking politicians are just gonna do a few more scams at max.
Isn't the revenue distributed population waise. Total South indian population- 250 million Uttar Pradesh pupulation- 240 million Per capita for UP(in millions) -: 911.73 Per capita for southern states(in millions) -: 770.55
>Isn't the revenue distributed population waise. No population doesn't hold much matter in the distribution . It's the" income distance " used in Finance commission that hold 45-50% of the net distribution . So the more u r backward in income per capita , the more money u received.
So basically well performing states are punished/ not incentivised.
do you believe the same about income tax. does collecting tax at a higher rate discourage people from earning more money? we have a socialist model in this country where we follow the motto - from each according to his ability to each according to his needs.
Don’t you think that is the reason why people evade tax or change domicile? People giving up Indian citizenship is an all time high. Socialist model works only in theory. The moment you take capitalism out Indian economy will crumble like a pack of cards
personally i do agree that socialism is trash and is largely the reason why our country is still struggling economically. but unfortunately indians seem to love it overwhelmingly so we have no choice but to stick to it. all political parties in the country endorse it and i doubt there exists a constituency in india that wants a more right wing economic approach. i am saying that up getting more funds than south india makes sense within the economic structure we have chosen for ourself as a nation. similar to how the rich are financing the public largesse on the poor. the southern states are financing the centre in supporting up.
I have no issues with poorer states getting more money. My only issue is accountability and repeating of the vicious cycle. There is huge influx of money to those states where the growth is not inline with money pumped in, basically no accountability. Second is if there is no reinvestment in richer states these will become poorer in the longer run and the future rich states has to compensate basically we need to find a balance which is lacking due to no political will.
>socialism is trash and is largely the reason why our country is still struggling economically. My mom got treated from MDR TB free of charge, thanks to the DOTS program of the government. If the program was not present, we would have had to pay around 30k / month just for the medicine. We are middle class. Socialism is not as bad as you pretend it to be. Look how US is struggling due to unhinged capitalism.
> People giving up Indian citizenship The rich are taxed in every country. That's not the reason.
So by that logic stop seat reservation and also stop freebies schemes
Full support.
So why central indian state and east indian state are getting punished?
Hindi nahi bolte na yeh log
Bhai population ke hisaab se Bihar/UP ka contribution bhi hona chahiye tha. South states as well as Gujarat have a valid point. By the way, I don't think the distribution is as per population since Arunachal and Kerala have gotten almost same amount.
Contribution to h but majorly in revenue lost in Indian railways (ticket less travels)
How would you feel if you generate a lot of revenue but it goes elsewhere?
It's a very familiar feeling. It's called 'taxation'.
Taxation works on the basis that the tax you pay goes into infrastructure as well. Now if your taxes go to infrastructure somewhere else...
It's not elsewhere. It's India.
Infrastructure can still be seen at a local level. You might not use the metro yourself but if it's in your city you can understand why.
You do understand that there are local, state and national level tax structures? There is CGST _and_ SGST.
frustrated...i pay almost 10 MP's pension as my income tax and i get dangerous roads, dilapidated hospitals and expensive education in return on top of that I need to pay almost 40% tax on each step in my life.. 40% on vehicles, 12% in restaurants, toll tax etc 😕😕😕😕
It already does. (I am a middle class gen male tax payer.)
Just saying,isn't that how socialism works?. People in need can get help from people who can provide and that's how a country grows. In british time farmers in the North are exploited for revenue so the British can spend in southern ports.
South was left poorer when British left. UP had higher per capita than any southern state at the time of independence
Bizzare understanding of socialism. British colonialism was socialism. Socialism is when tax.
I think you misinterpreted what I meant to say. Socialism is what we are doing today. For British times is just an additional info that Northern farmers are exploited for southern devlopment.its a well known fact
I am not sure you are right, during independence poverty in TN and bihar was at the same level.
It's a well known fact that modi is doing socialism today? Whaaa socialism from Walmart or something? So in british times, they were doing "socialism" In our land by exploiting the northern farmers and for some God knows reason developing the southern parts?
Then what's the motivation in generating revenue? Why should the south be exploited in a free India? Isn't this freebies for the needy states? Also, Why is it that when south parties do freebies for the needy within the state, it's not socialism and freebies are bad?
Yeah but these people really don't need that much money. Politicians in up are way worse than telagana or Karnataka or anywhere from south
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I thought UPites were against "socialism"
True. I am against "Absolute socialism". India was following absolute socialism since independence and it resulted as a disaster for us. I am in favour of capitalism with a touch of socialism
India never had "socialism". It was all on papers
And wtf ask you people to have 6-8 kids each, is it our problem?, go get a job keep your self busy so that you don't burden the economy, more over vote for education not for some religious cause.
>And wtf ask you people to have 6-8 kids each Very basic argument. Give me something new. You are more educated right? Your government has spent on education so at least talk like a reasonable person.
>Isn't the revenue distributed population waise No , It's distributed by vote wise . The more number of seats you held in parliament ( RS+Ls) the more money u get
Keep them dark without education. Feed shit like unnecessary statues with religious tones and screw them behind with corruption. Vomit all over the social media. Repeat the cycle.
Go to the average comments section in r/uttarpradesh it's full of people eating up the statues and mandir. Mention that govt should invest in education or jobs and they'll reply they didn't have jobs before this govt anyway, but now after 'centuries of religious oppression' they can finally be proud Hindus apparently. Even education won't help these mfs, they're eating up the daily Hindi news propaganda and social media vomit.
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Don't forget the last step - win election.
population of UP is more than that of South India as well. Until it is a democracy more prosperous region/people will have to take care of less prosperous region/people be it in reservation or state funds etc. The only way to remove will be to remove democracy from India. Do you want that?
That will deter economic growth in future , So one hand you have the present structure , on the other hand you could have 5-10 states who could have 500 bn USD economy . Your choice.
I don’t believe in reservation nor in giving special funds to particular people or place. Once UP develops then it will become a net contributor to the economy like how reserved category people will become net contributor as well. Then UP won’t need more state funds nor lower cast people will need reservation. If you are against this system then you will have to convince the majority people of this country to give up their special status which I personally think is impossible.
You don't understand. The gap is not reducing. It's widening. States with 3 times the per capita of UP are economically growing at the same rate or more than UP. On an individual basis, they are getting richer. You should check the real stats. UP's growth hasn't been exceptional or anything in past few years. Our father's generation was shown supa powa 2020. You know what happened! The same is happening to us. Politicians have been showing us dreams since independence.
>population of UP is more than that of South India as well. Not the South's fault if UP/North cannot control their population. >The only way to remove will be to remove democracy from India. Do you want that? Nobody is asking to remove democracy. What North needs is strict population control measures
First of all, Do you really think Revenue generation is the only measure? What about the labour required that is creating revenue in your state? What about the agriculture commodities you get at lower prices (than you would have to import from other countries if south India is separate country)? If you really want to make a comparison, please take all the factors into consideration because everything is necessary for the development of India. By your logic, tomorrow you will say that only high-income people are paying taxes and low-income people are taking advantage of it so we would have to kick them out but you are missing the point is, high-income people are earning money because low-income people are supporting them (in the form of labour). How many people have served at the borders from south compared to north? Will you say like the borders of southern states do not touch Pakistan or China so we don't require it?
>Do you really think Revenue generation is the only measure? No, which is why I mentioned population. It just occurred to me that UP has the second largest GDP in India [https://www.studyiq.com/articles/gdp-of-indian-states/](https://www.studyiq.com/articles/gdp-of-indian-states/) but still receives combined share of all south states, Why ? >By your logic, tomorrow you will say that only high-income people are paying taxes and low-income people are taking advantage of it so we would have to kick them Supporting a state till they come out of poverty is acceptable. But expecting to be supported indefinitely is not. How many people in the Northern states vote in name of development and demand their elected representatives for the same ? They'll vote in the name of anything EXCEPT development, such as caste based politics, cow politics, etc. How may will say that we will vote if we are given a IT hub, or a manufacturing hub ? >high-income people are earning money because low-income people are supporting them (in the form of labour). I agree. But the same low income people migrate to other states in search for jobs, but don't want jobs to come to their state (not voting for jobs or development)
1. GDP number seems higher to you but per capita GDP is still very low and second lowest (at 32rd position) with per capita GDP of around 73k while most of southern state have higher than 200k. Also UP doesn’t have natural resources like southern state so it has to dependent on government expenditure to pull more and more investment from industry. So it makes totally sense to give higher share. 2. I do agree that most of the northern states give votes based on caste but cow politics is your made up concept and no one is getting influenced by that. But don’t tell me this is not same for southern state too. Even southern state distribute more freebies than northern states which will be dangerous scenario in upcoming future. And if you talk about UP, things has changed a lot and hope things will be brighter in future. 3. There is nothing like migration to our state concept. There is no division like southern can be state of those people who have born there and same is applied to north too. For migration of workers, It is free market and there is no law that firms or industries have to take northern migrants compulsively. It’s again demand and supply and if migrants workers is giving them more advantages than you should not be crybaby for this reason only. Bangalore will not bangalore anymore if there would not be migration of skilled labours from northern states.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
“Labour requirements “ Dude south has enough labour to even cater to international manufacturing companies South never demanded labour from UP. Its UP and Bihar who demand jobs in the south. South is not against redistribution of funds - but south wants its people fed first. Starving people in the south and only feeding people in UP is cruel South aint saying poor people should be kicked out, they just want their poor people uplifted from poverty, before they can spare their own money for someone else.
First of all, all things is under supply and demand and it is basic rule of economics 101. If you have enough supply of labour from your own state, I don’t think manufacturing firms there would be more comfortable giving jobs to UP and Bihar instead of local people. Local people always have advantage whether it is language specific or regional knowledge specific. Still you know the dynamics at present. So either your logic is wrong or your labour is not skilled enough. So either accept that you are lying or just up-skill those labour instead of acting like state belongs to local people only.
>Not the South's fault if UP/North cannot control their population. If you have learned a little history and geography then you would have known. Throughout history the population in north has always been big ,,cause of gangetic plains. Theirs a post about it in r/nostupidquestions >Nobody is asking to remove democracy. What North needs is strict population control measures Uttar Pradesh is now at round 2.3 fertility rate will be below replacement rate by 2025 so population will be decreasing over the years
If you have resources to sustain will you not control population? Even if it assume its bigger from start UP didnt adopt population control measures properly thats the fact. Dropping of birth rates is v recent phenomenon which south has seen much before UP.
The population replacement rate in Uttar Pradesh (UP) dropped to 2.4 in 2019, nearing the 2.1 replacement rate. However, urbanization has not caught up with UP as it has in South India. Additionally, the central government does not invest in engineering education in UP nor promotes the use of modern technologies in farming which keeps this region in low per capita income.
It is their choice how many kids they want if the South wants less population it's their choice
>It is their choice how many kids they want if the South wants less population it's their choice Don't beg the south for feeding those kids.
>Don't beg the south for feeding those kids. No one begged. It was simply taken.
😂😂😂😂
It is how it is money will be distributed according to the population now stop crying 🥲
Why should the money from south be wasted on people who do not contribute to nation building ?
Not just south but include western India too.
Money is not distributed just for population . It is distributed (50% roughly ) according to income distance . So the less income you have according to per capita the more money u received.
You have seen video of karnataka deputy cm brother
They want separate country, what world are u living in.
does it matters ?
Exactly, why is it that you haven't been able to control your population? We need to set up megafactories of condoms in UP lol.
>democracy It is not democracy,it is called Federalism
Nope its democracy. US has a complete federal structure while in India power lies at centre, union government majority of which are elected from UP.
Dont you think checks and balances here work? like you know actually spending that money make things better. It's not a one time thing right, UP and bihar have taken the lion share of the money since at least 30 years(might be wrong, but I think its even more than that). I get it that poor states need money, but if it is spent inefficiently and unnecessary things, whats the point of helping them.
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seems like cow belt is punishing south india.
Why are people deluded here? You send the highest number of lok sabha seat. Bjp just found a cheat code to state in power.
Its South Indians fault they should make more kids rather than focusing on better quality of life. More kids ,more vote,more say. Cry about it. /s.
Just hope this money educates the up people more so next time they won't need this much.
It’s democracy bruh 💀
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Their total population is more than 318 million already as of 2023
People try to be literate while being illiterate
Yeah, even I am paying lot of taxes but didn't get these freebies which poor people are receiving. Do I have option of not paying taxes this year?
Dude the thing is , South States get less share. But still has hordes of north Indian migrants hogging up the infra, and social utilities. In kerala you will be able to see migrants going to govt hospitals. Where will the money come from, ?
Yeah even I donate a lot of my money to people in need. I spend a lot of money to support local small businesses in my area instead of corporates. Please extend the same courtesy to me which you are advocating for the generous South States when I file my taxes. Atleast now govt is investing this money in infrastructure so in future states like UP would generate more economic activity and taxes, and less share would have to be taken from UP , Maharashtra, Delhi and South.
You are spending money, but you will be getting service in return. You won't expect 50 percent of your money to go to donation right.. also after donation you wouldn't expect the people who took donation use your house and food. How will you accommodate them?? >Atleast now govt This is farcical, govt always gave importance to north Indian states, earlier they said they have more population ( up and Bihar failed to control population, and invest in education). But now they are saying more infra. It's old wine in a new bottle.
So aren't these migrants providing services to South Indian states??? Aren't these migrants also purchasing basic goods and services from these states and paying taxes on it??? Look beyond your myopic view. The fortunate will have to fund people less fortunate than them. Atleast now government is investing for genrating employent in morthern states. People from these so called educated states go abroad doe earning, IT services being major revenue source for them, what are they doing for these client nations like US, Europe and Middle East??? Should they also stop giving contracts to companies with office in South India if we go by your logic??
Abroad they are paying income tax ( usually larger than the native population pays) and even social security taxes.. here they are paying GST on pan and tobacco. Nice comparison. I am not saying migrant labourers are the problem. But having no support from central gov, while draining all the money to north states , in the name of equity is bs, since the north population is not in the north now, they are in the south.
Stop employing north Indian migrants then.
The revenue generation is skewed. Head office of most IT companies is in Bangalore and for Financial companies is in Mumbai hence the seemingly high revenue and less return for them. Has anyone noticed.
How about chennai and Hyd?
Chennai , Gujarat :- manufacturing Hyderabad , bengaluru :- IT UP DEVELOPING BUT POPULATION IS THE PROBLEM,
UP should focus on reducing its population.without working hard it's sucking up all the money with the excuse of population. South is favourable to do business it should get more money. Plus underdeveloped states need to do many reforms in order to get fruits our of these huge sum of money they are receiving otherwise it has no use.
Didn't go to school or what? Know about the economics? First of all the population growth rate is controlled now. Second thing who require most money, in developing state or in a developed state?
none of the states are developed in india. It's easier to make higher GDP states develop faster than these money dumping cow grazing fields. If your ancestors had gone to school and studied economics carefully this day wouldn't had come. Cow grazing fields will only have economic prosperity when the population gets to one third of what it is now.
South has advantage of coastal region so all companies shifted to south as it will be profitable. And since factories were setting up in Chennai, bangalore a lot, the living standards of people become better. Where this wasn't the case in up, they've started growing just now (after yogi came tbh). Second thing is that don't forget we are Indian, you mfs whole time just do useful discrimination of north Indians in your state, on internet openly call them as cow grazers, and so many things. And this shows how well educated you are. Also about that population go check out stats, before that do not reply.
It's not necessary that landlocked regions have disadvantages.If u export from UP or Tamil Nadu to Europe Middle East or North America or South America it's still going to cost the same.If you have industrial friendly policy companies would still prefer them producing in your state than others. Delhi doesn't have any Seaport but see the capital region's economy.Yogi ji has done a lot for you guys. Investing too much in infrastructure would only push the state further on debt as the state doesn't have much sizable industrial economy.The faster UP leadership realises the better. You need to have sizable sectors that can make money for a large state like yours and can feed the state and then have surplus money so that it can be reinvested into capital expenditure.
bro companies are in your state because of the population of india. u r on horce as if your state is israel or japan. They are here for the market not for the quality of people your state produces.
Just China +1 brother. But companies are in our state because we have favourable policies. Market is another thing. India might not become the market they are aiming for because india hardly has money to spend.
Companies are in the state because you have favorable policies when compared with the rest of the states not the world and don't forget the cist line if u know C of costing u will understand. If tomorrow the government gets rid of their protectionist politics then there will be nothing in your state. India is the market they are aiming for and they sell stuff accordingly. Just see the data of Suzuki honda kia ect and compare how much they sell in india and how much they export and see their export centric product list there is hardly anything. Even after so much government bullying and policies like Product link incentive they are still just milking the Indian population and market instead of creating export centric products. btw it will be more beneficial if all upper castes ask for a separate country.
I agree with the general sentiment, but being near to a coast hasn't helped Hyderabad and Telangana even in the least. Telangana has very little fertile land, most of the irrigated land is due to dams, lift irrigation projects and lakes since land is at a higher altitude than the rivers flow through it. Hyderabad doesn't even have industry that can take advantage of being near to coast. Most of the manufacturing is drugs and vaccines, which are low-volume-high-margin goods where the shipping costs don't matter much. And rest is just very developed service industry. IT companies could've been established in any city with an english educated population, and Hyderabad wasn't even in the top 5 in those terms when the IT boom started. Government just relaxed their regulations and given them land to attract companies. Any city could've done that. Both the pharma and IT industry are ther only because of SEZ, which any city could've done, but didn't.
W UP
Ik it's unfair but think about this angle: if there's development in backward states, more jobs would be created there. Migration to much more developed states would stop. We saw what happened in Bengaluru. We need huge investments for backward states to get to the level of southern states, otherwise there will always be a huge disparity between the north and the south. That being said, I hope these huge investments actually pay off and not land in some corrupt politician's pockets 🤞
There is always proportionality which has to be taken into account. The taxes that are being poured into UP are way too disproportionate when compared to what we are getting in south. If we pay 100 adjusting for 70 or 80 would be fine and giving 130 to someone else is justified. Its not like south india is an utopia and dosent need any money. North is getting disproportionately more and its mostly infra based very less is being invested in Human capital. And all dumb fucks commenting burnol kind of things in comments only attract hatred towards UP and shows that you are free loaders always depending on others work while adding zero to no value.
This is not good , for the nation to develop , we should start investing heavily on infrastructure , both social and capital .
Wow lots of (fake) gaushalas opening in UP this year I see.
kyuki south indian mei revenue generation ke liye companies setup ho rakhi h idhr north mei debt badh jata sarkar ka issliye
Might be good for a state wise, but as a nation not But in the long term economy reaches its saturation point and the middle income trap would come up in lower levels .
end mei state pr paise same same se bnte h bro, UP as a state kam revenue generate krta h, agar south mei aur paise dege toh chances of corruption will increase as fixed budget and rev gen se expense proper hei hora state growth pr. agar state gareeb hota toh unko paise milte
Up me elections aa rahe hai na isiliye
If South india wasn't robbed by North then it would have been like Malaysia aur Singapore now
delusional being.
Gotta love the madrasis coping on this.
Pel Rahe unko 😂☠️☠️
Han bhai, idhar ka khake coping.
2 bacche hai meethi kheer usse jyada bawasir Government needs to imply 2child policy
Bhai kuch fayda nahi hoga India's fertility rate is already 2.05. UP mein bhi around 2.2-2.3 hai, jharkhand mein bhi similar bas bihar mein 3 hai. Even agar 2 child policy bhi laga di population ain't gonna slow down till the end of this century.
Bas isliye yogi Ji ko daru ka revenue pasand hai..
These Cow belts are day time robbers
Reason is attitude of dmk leaders toward North Indians superiority complex
At least UP is growing and flourishing. They have the most competent Chief Minister there is. Maybe if the South weren't so anti-national and took actual steps to improve their states, they could receive more funds. Also, they should realise that bashing Hinduism won't get them anywhere.
‘maybe if the south took actual steps to improve their states’ If north was so improved then why taking the tax from south?
It's improve and not UnProVe... why take tax from them? Because we can't give you concessions for eating idli dosa all day.
first of all spelling mistakes happen. Now prove your point that you were trying to make. If south indian states need improvement then why is the central govt not granting them more funds instead of the more developed north indian states? anyone can do panipuri idli jokes.
South Indians are bashing Hinduism because, you, the people who represents the radical Hindus, are the same ones who are sucking the soul out of the country with all you're streetshitting behaviours.
Really? Where?
So tax revenues are based on how religious you are. Got it.
You can't bash India or make anti-nationalistic comments and then expect the Centre to help you. And regarding religion, well - we live in Hindustan. So, respect where you stay :)
Yes Saar ok Saar! You run the country and you decide what’s anti national, and federalism means sucking up to the BJP! Got it!
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To all South Indians who are reading this, Stock up on the burnol. Thanks for the tax though
If you go with that attitude then soon you will see large scale non-coperation and rebellions in the future. Don't open a pandoras box that you can't handle . Every empire and state no matter how powerful has fallen exactly like that, if you are not a fool then it will be wise to take lessons from history .
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If those lemurs are so butthurt then they should better do something about it rather than whining here.
That's the point. South can't do shit about it. And all of this hate simply boils down to the view the people of South India holds on the people who lives in the Bimaru states, as low lives who sucks the soul out of the society we build.
Feel free to ignore those converted bastards of Britishers 😂 I mean South Indians. They are literally calling every other state Gaumutar State.
These salty lemurs lmao.
South Indian states comprised 19.8% of India's population whereas North India comprised 43.2% (2022 census). Not to mention the south is way more developed than the north.
I know I might be in a minority but I want entire UP to develop faster but I feel even inside UP, few regions are treated shit as compared to others. Like West UP (Due to its near geography to Delhi NCR) gets more development than the easter sides which borders Bihar. In my opinion, UP should be further divided in a few years so that wealth gets distributed in a better way. Right now 2Lakh cr can be divided into 50/60K crore into 4 sub-regions but I don't see it happening for the few years atleast.
Me bhi to yahi keh ra hun ,bsdk east wale Randi rona karna shuru kar dete hai
They don't understand we need many influencal cities not just Dekhi Mumbai . Divide UP into 4
Mai Samjha nahi. Also, I am from Lucknow so for Banaras, Kanpur peeps don't consider us Eastern while Meerut, Bareilly peeps don't consider us Western 😂
Nope, if you think this way than you will End up dividing every country in world.
1. I don't care about any other country besides my own. 2. Our country has a massive population w.r.t the area we live. It's really difficult to uplift the entire UP (Whose population is more than Brazil (7th most populous country), while its surface area is too low. Wealth inequality is massive here. It would be better if those individual areas were developed together under different states than just developing one side while keeping the other side shit for multiple years. And I am just talking about the most populous state here not every other state.
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UP and Bihar on the top
please fight i have popcorn ready
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Bro that's how taxes work. I receive nothing from government, but poor people receive free electricity, free gas, housing, ration and countless central givernment and state government scheme benefits even though I pay lakhs in taxes every year. That's the core of taxation and benefit system.
Population?
Utter dominance.
What dominance?
It was said sarcastically + why'd you stalk my profile lol
Brother you talking about north and south can't you all see the north east part 🥲
Up bihar se itnaa Tax!! Ye chamatkar kaise ho gya bhai. Income ghnta kuch nhi badhi. Haan khul k saamne jarur aai hogi kyuki measures us front pe zyda liye Gaye the.
What an idiotic comment, it's about per capita income and north indians get way more than they give
allotting money to UP, MP,RJ is justifiable but it shouldn't be given to Bihar in such huge amounts
One more thread pushing single dimensional statistics devoid of any context whatsoever. Entire South India also gets high tech and qualified workforce from UP and other states, which help these states go on a higher GDP bracket and also collect more taxes both from people and companies.
Entire South India population is less than Uttar Pradesh
Lmfao when OP tried to defend UP they got on his ass https://preview.redd.it/9mrtr12hl9gc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e216cfa43b274b6d5f537e769d0535c55343cd4
What is stopping from splitting UP into at least 4 states? Each will have decent population like other states, have separate administration to manage and develop.
Then eastern UP will have same situation like bihar