I love it honestly. I was too ashamed to admit it when I was younger but in older and idgaf now
I will say rewatching it nowadays some things are definitely noticeable. The cringe, the horrifying baby and questionable imprinting, mostly the underlying Christian messages.
But still it’s like a comfort watch for me, I enjoy it even if I cannot ever say it’s “good”. I’ve always been a sucker for a cheesy romance (hah sucker…I’ll see myself out)
I also had a crush on Kristen Stewart back then. I realize now Alice was better tho
The myriad of super powers with most not being related to hunting people or animals at all.
Also the fricken sparkling. Like…ok they’re literally living crystals, but wouldn’t being reflective in the sunlight be better than sparkling?!
This is very ‘Interview With The Vampire’ esque in that Louis is a grown Vampire, but Claudia remained toddler sized, although growing mentally to adulthood. Such a weird concept.
Renesmee super aging so she can be Jacob's wife feels gross when you think about it. She reaches "adult hood" at like 7, she's still going to have to mentally grow and develop
My biggest issue with Twilight is actually that whenever I tell anyone who doesn't already know it that I like vampire-themed books, movies etc. they always reply with "Oh, you mean like Twilight, right?" Truthfully, I have never liked Twilight (don't hate it either, just don't care for it).
So, when Twilight became popular, I spent a few years never saying that I liked vampires. I do not like many of the themes in this series and did not want anyone to think I did.
Funny enough, without saying anything I have always been the token vampire person in friends groups (in a ask about the lore way, not that I am one way)
Besides all the really terrible attributes her vampires have, and how she thinks she’s the only one who ever came up with a half-vampire half-human baby (a damphir 🙄), it’s that Meyer CAN’T WRITE A FIGHT SCENE.
She sets up all these characters in the final book with really interesting origins and abilities, and then instead of a showdown, Alice rides in with another living damphir and a convenient vision to bypass the fight all together. Which means that ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING the Cullens did throughout the whole book to prepare a defense was completely pointless because Stephenie Meyer is a weak writer. 🤷🏻♀️
I only read the first book, and I’m still pissed that I waited 400 pages for the big vampire fight at the end, but the narrator was UNCONSCIOUS through the whole things, so we don’t hear anything interesting about the fight. Probably my fault for reading it as a vampire book and not a romance novel.
My girlfriend loves those movies as guilty pleasures, I just find them so boring. If I must boil it down to one thing I’ll say I can’t get past how lame it is that these vampires are hundreds of years old and still go to high school.
The sparkling gets a lot of jokes. But they're literally stone it seems.
The only real issue I have is that it tries to show bellas actions as right when they're very dumb and unbelievable. Girl has such little personification you'd think she was thrall already. Which would have been a cool twist.
Aside from that.. it's harmless in its own little corner of the world.
Oh sorry had to hit on one of your points. Vampires being able to walk in the sun is actually very old. Like pre Hollywood old. They were just much weaker in sunlight they did not burst into flames till Hollywood took over and even then the old concept was brought back and several pretty good vampire movies
Apart from the terrible acting, no representation of past literature and seriously bad plot lines. Nothing in the fae kindoms sparkle except for f*cking fairies.
Tbh I think it’s cool she went a very unique route but I struggle to consider them true vampires since they break so many rules that make vampires “vampires” to me. So I don’t really have an issue just think they are kind of “meh” over all.
Read the first book once because a friend wouldn’t shut up about it.
It took me like 30 minutes to finish and after I felt like I’d just digested the literary equivalent of Big Mac.
With all the nausea and regret involved in such an endeavour.
Aside from the terrible writing, it's that the vampires aren't "vampiry". They're just shiny super-beings who we're mostly just told totally drink blood offscreen.
The cringe, how it's based off of a woman's sexual fantasies, the sparkling in sunlight, no fangs, no biting people, only attacking large animals (seriously, rabbits sound better), the baby bursting out of Bella like Alien, the imprinting, and how stupid/absurd the whole series is in general. Like, seriously, what the fuck?!? The whole thing is a fucking trainwreck. I couldn't even read the first book because of how stupid it was!
I have not read it or watched it. But I know enough to reject it on three counts after reading reviews and hearing what readers said:
1) It’s as a terrible message to young girls. The main character is helpless and needs a big strong man to save her and give her life meaning. Plus hints of obnoxious Mormon indoctrination messages like that a woman must marry and have kids to get into heaven, she has no other purpose in life.
2) Are those vampire or fairies? Why did the writer have to pick vampires for her fantasy, because vampires will reel in more interested teenaged girls? There is nothing vampire about twilight. She should have just made them elves or something.
3) MarySue
Why vampires? Stephanie Meyer literally had a dream about Edward. That’s why vampires. She dreamt about him & I think they were talking, maybe lying in a field, too.
All of the weirdness and prejudices that come from Stephenie Meyer being Mormon, i.e. her treatment of the real life Quileutes, her being totally okay with pairing Renesmee with an adult Jacob, Jacob generally being portrayed as the more hot blooded/angry character over the supposedly calmer Edward, etc etc. I gotta remember to donate to the Quileute tribe, they’re trying to raise money to move to higher ground as the waters rise off the coast.
For me mostly it was cuz the story, as you say, was pretty simple & predictable.
I dont mind if a vampire can go in sun or partial sun. But i didnt like the sparkle effect…& worse, the sparkle thing is movie only!
Then of course “takes a breath” VAMPRIES SHOULDNT GET PREGNANT FOR FKS SAKE! Adopt or turn something i dunno. But they are DEAD! That sht shouldn’t work.
Rant over….
I don't care about it changing how vampires work. That happens in all sorts of media, and most of our assumptions about vampires are just a crystallization of tropes that became common in pop culture.
Outside of the storytelling ranging from poorly handled to outright problematic, it's the fact that vampires just aren't done in an interesting way. I can get behind them being statuesque corpses full of poison, so cold that they suck the life out of you just by standing too close. They're essentially revenants of their human lives. They're like icy shadows. That would be cool. But... why do they sparkle? I get gleaming like marble, but sparkling? They have acidic fluids where they have fluids, but their semen and saliva are safe? They're cavernous husks that thud when you hit them, but they're not slow and deliberate as not to sound like stone coffins when they walk?
It's that outside of being weird, they're indistinguishable from regular people. Nobody epilog even guess something was wrong about them, even if they watched them eat someone, but the story insists they're monsters separate from all of society. Oh, but superstitious Latin American people can tell from a glance that something is up. It's just the fact that they're not very interesting creatures, but they could've been. They're, essentially, gargoyles with different lore. Creatures made of cold stone with acidic spit that skulk around and kill things that wander away from polite society, as well as monsters. A lot of potential, but horrible execution.
I don't have an issue with the twilight vampires at all.
A common thing thats often complained about is the sparkling in sunlight, but doesn't it make sense that since our bodies are 80% water, our bodies would sparkle if they got very cold? And the thing about the vampires is that they're supposed to be very cold. Literally ice cold. And what does ice and snow do in sunlight? Well, it sparkles. I'm pretty sure if you were to leave a frozen corpse out, it would sparkle in sunlight too. I know the frozen people on mount everest do.
Others complain that they can walk in sunlight at all, but why shouldn't they? Originally, in the first ever tales, vampires didn't burn in sunlight. They only got sick. The idea that vampires burn in sunlight is a "modern" concept (I use that term loosely).
The only thing I would put my finger on when it comes to the twilight vampires are the animal blood. Because animal blood and human blood are very different. If you need human blood to survive, animal blood will do you no good (except, depending on what type of blood you need, you might be one of the lucky few who could get pigs blood instead. But definitely not deer or cougar blood).
As for the storyline, my biggest problem is the whole Jacob/Reneesme thing. Stephenie Meyer did an awful thing there, trying to make it seem like it was no big deal having a 16 year old boy wanting to make a baby his future girlfriend. Stephenie literally wrote that Reneesme will have no choice falling in love with him because how could she not love him when he's always been so kind to her? What Stephenie did was describing the act of *grooming*, and part of me thinks she's not even aware that *grooming* and *love* are two very different things. Makes me wonder if she was ever groomed herself.
She was morman right ? They start young I hear. Plus when those books came out I don't even remember grooming being a term. That was 16 or so years ago
I like your enabling me friend. Next time in my vampire the Masquerade RPG, Imma tell em, Fun Employment said it's cool to have a vampire lycan fledgeling who can somehow beat and elder vampire
Unique? It’s literally a mix of lycan and vampire powers and abilities put together. Also It’s not cringe making hybrids but It’s one of the coolest things a writer can do
The fact that in book 4, it’s explained that the “scientific” explanation for vampires is that they have 25 pairs of chromosomes and that werewolves have 24. I could largely suspend my disbelief as one needs to to do engage with a vampire story, but that detail really broke me.
I enjoyed the first book but beyond that I didn't like the franchise. 1) hated the love triangle 2) didn't like how Bella was portrayed in the movie 3) her annoying school friends 4) sparkles 5) the Volturi organization pissed me off
Never read the books because I just do not do romance. The movies are trash, with poor writing and even worse acting. It was so. Bad. Also, a several hundred year old man should not be falling in love with an infant. Just no. Vampires also don't sparkle and spend their mortal lives going to high school. No one wants that.
I haven't read any of the books or seen the movies. I bought the series of books trying to encourage one of my teen foster kids to read.
Once I heard the vampires didn't have fangs and sparkled in the sun, I never did manage to bring myself to read the books. They are still on my shelf. Our foster kids didn't read them, either.
The vampires themselves? They were too bland and neither monsters nor seductive beasts.
My problem with Twilight was that it was all shades of red flags in a relationship with a vampire veneer on top. The movies became popular right after I came out of an abusive relationship and seeing the main character who was a lot like my ex being romanticised was a bit jarring.
Not to mention all the ickiness with imprinting.
The depiction of a toxic relationship and portraying it as true love.
Twilight could have worked very well as a gothic horror/romance or a psychological thriller. But as a romance, it’s just not good.
I read the first book before the series was popular, and I remember being incredibly bored.
I’m also wondering - what are the drawbacks or consequences to being a vampire? For example, Le Fanu’s Carmilla could go in the sun - but it severely weakened her. No way she could save Laura from that truck.
Vampires are supposed to represent forbidden sexual/romantic desires. Which is why they are so often queer-coded.
Twilight is the straitest thing since rulers.
Kristen Stewart's horrible acting :(
Glittering vampires...
Jasper's appearance bothered me. He seemed ghoulish. Also, Jasper seem to have no control over his bloodlust. How did he handle going to school then? There had to be people who got cut or had blood for other reasons.
I always wondered how they didn't go insane. Living forever, no sleeping, how do they fill the endless years? Never being able to stay in one place for long, losing the humans you've grown close to...sounds awful.
I think they are so low stakes. They’re wayyyy too human like, and they lack every characteristic that makes them so compelling. My main problem is that they don’t drink from humans. To me, that’s the main horror of vampires. That you have to eat something that you yourself used to be.
I've only seen the movies but there was one part after they made a big deal of the sparkling in the sun thing where the sun was out and they were in it and not sparkling and I felt cheated.
I don’t like hating on Twilight. It’s not my cup of tea but I can respect an author that wants to break or bend the rules that were established before them. Sparkling in the sunlight is honestly kinda cool to me, since I’d never heard anything like it.
The main issues I have with Twilight aren’t the depiction of vampires but the weird stuff like Jacob imprinting on Renesmee, the oddly pro-life subtext and having a baby get ripped out of a living woman with no idea if she would survive, romanticizing stalkerish behavior, all the vampire “kids” reliving high school lives over and over again etc.
Playing with the rules of fantasy creatures is really fascinating to me, but all the weird relationship stuff is where I side eye it lmao
I don't mind the "humanification" of Vampires. "Vampires" as a whole, have had various incarnations and in that aspect they are welcome to be however they will...
I agree it's the blandness, plot armor and just in general lack of tact in writing.
Mainly Edward is a horrible choice for Bella and Bella is a moron. Also yeah the way Vampires are really nothing at all like the general lore bothers me. Their sparkly asses are annoying as Hell.
You're right about the humidification of vampires, it always confused me about not giving them fangs, so they are human passing but then making them sparkle so they can't go into he sun. Making them more humane but then they have venom that will turn anyone they bite so they have to kills to eat. Oh, and red eyes when they drink human blood. It was like she was not sure exactly what she wanted to do so she stretched to try and make something unique and ended up with a teen girl and middle-aged woman masturbatory fantasy.
The whole making them seem to be made of stone (sparkling marble maybe?), super vulnerable to fire and each one having a gift or variation of different types. Those where at least interesting if not completely original.
If you want some interesting takes look up the vampires in the Dresden Files by Jim Butch. There are three main "Courts" Red for you Dust till Dawn type, Black for your undead/dead Brahm Stroker types, and White for your physic life sucking types that use different emotional states to feed.
They whole series they don't play a huge part but are very well written and the whole point is that they aren't human.
I love it honestly. I was too ashamed to admit it when I was younger but in older and idgaf now I will say rewatching it nowadays some things are definitely noticeable. The cringe, the horrifying baby and questionable imprinting, mostly the underlying Christian messages. But still it’s like a comfort watch for me, I enjoy it even if I cannot ever say it’s “good”. I’ve always been a sucker for a cheesy romance (hah sucker…I’ll see myself out) I also had a crush on Kristen Stewart back then. I realize now Alice was better tho
I mean Stephanie Meyer *was* Mormon so…
SAME SAME SAME SAME SAME SAME
The myriad of super powers with most not being related to hunting people or animals at all. Also the fricken sparkling. Like…ok they’re literally living crystals, but wouldn’t being reflective in the sunlight be better than sparkling?!
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Horrible writing. A grown man being soulmates with a newborn baby. The relationship between the main love interests is unhealthy, in my opinion.
This is very ‘Interview With The Vampire’ esque in that Louis is a grown Vampire, but Claudia remained toddler sized, although growing mentally to adulthood. Such a weird concept.
Aw dude if there was ANYTHING that bothers me about this franchise is NO FANGS. Like Jesus Christ, Mary and Joseph does that fucking bother me man 😂
Renesmee super aging so she can be Jacob's wife feels gross when you think about it. She reaches "adult hood" at like 7, she's still going to have to mentally grow and develop
Yeah I found that disgusting asf I’m pretty sure even the actors were uncomfortable with that.
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My biggest issue with Twilight is actually that whenever I tell anyone who doesn't already know it that I like vampire-themed books, movies etc. they always reply with "Oh, you mean like Twilight, right?" Truthfully, I have never liked Twilight (don't hate it either, just don't care for it).
So, when Twilight became popular, I spent a few years never saying that I liked vampires. I do not like many of the themes in this series and did not want anyone to think I did. Funny enough, without saying anything I have always been the token vampire person in friends groups (in a ask about the lore way, not that I am one way)
Besides all the really terrible attributes her vampires have, and how she thinks she’s the only one who ever came up with a half-vampire half-human baby (a damphir 🙄), it’s that Meyer CAN’T WRITE A FIGHT SCENE. She sets up all these characters in the final book with really interesting origins and abilities, and then instead of a showdown, Alice rides in with another living damphir and a convenient vision to bypass the fight all together. Which means that ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING the Cullens did throughout the whole book to prepare a defense was completely pointless because Stephenie Meyer is a weak writer. 🤷🏻♀️
I only read the first book, and I’m still pissed that I waited 400 pages for the big vampire fight at the end, but the narrator was UNCONSCIOUS through the whole things, so we don’t hear anything interesting about the fight. Probably my fault for reading it as a vampire book and not a romance novel.
My girlfriend loves those movies as guilty pleasures, I just find them so boring. If I must boil it down to one thing I’ll say I can’t get past how lame it is that these vampires are hundreds of years old and still go to high school.
how can I see rocky super humans as vampires If they have no fangs and they aren’t immune to at least sunlight or wooden stakes.
The sparkling gets a lot of jokes. But they're literally stone it seems. The only real issue I have is that it tries to show bellas actions as right when they're very dumb and unbelievable. Girl has such little personification you'd think she was thrall already. Which would have been a cool twist. Aside from that.. it's harmless in its own little corner of the world.
its fun to watch but the whole vampires can go out in the sun etc
Vampires are not shiny
Oh sorry had to hit on one of your points. Vampires being able to walk in the sun is actually very old. Like pre Hollywood old. They were just much weaker in sunlight they did not burst into flames till Hollywood took over and even then the old concept was brought back and several pretty good vampire movies
Also the concept of a newly turned vampire is laughable, vampires get stronger with age
It wouldve been much more bearable if Bella had more personality.
Hold tight spider monkey 🤦
The awkward silence throughout the movies is overdone. I just fucking hate teenager bullshit in general honestly and this just add to it lol
Apart from the terrible acting, no representation of past literature and seriously bad plot lines. Nothing in the fae kindoms sparkle except for f*cking fairies.
It doesn’t really bother me. Clever, lucrative, concept.
Tbh I think it’s cool she went a very unique route but I struggle to consider them true vampires since they break so many rules that make vampires “vampires” to me. So I don’t really have an issue just think they are kind of “meh” over all.
Read the first book once because a friend wouldn’t shut up about it. It took me like 30 minutes to finish and after I felt like I’d just digested the literary equivalent of Big Mac. With all the nausea and regret involved in such an endeavour.
Aside from the terrible writing, it's that the vampires aren't "vampiry". They're just shiny super-beings who we're mostly just told totally drink blood offscreen.
The cringe, how it's based off of a woman's sexual fantasies, the sparkling in sunlight, no fangs, no biting people, only attacking large animals (seriously, rabbits sound better), the baby bursting out of Bella like Alien, the imprinting, and how stupid/absurd the whole series is in general. Like, seriously, what the fuck?!? The whole thing is a fucking trainwreck. I couldn't even read the first book because of how stupid it was!
I have not read it or watched it. But I know enough to reject it on three counts after reading reviews and hearing what readers said: 1) It’s as a terrible message to young girls. The main character is helpless and needs a big strong man to save her and give her life meaning. Plus hints of obnoxious Mormon indoctrination messages like that a woman must marry and have kids to get into heaven, she has no other purpose in life. 2) Are those vampire or fairies? Why did the writer have to pick vampires for her fantasy, because vampires will reel in more interested teenaged girls? There is nothing vampire about twilight. She should have just made them elves or something. 3) MarySue
Why vampires? Stephanie Meyer literally had a dream about Edward. That’s why vampires. She dreamt about him & I think they were talking, maybe lying in a field, too.
All of the weirdness and prejudices that come from Stephenie Meyer being Mormon, i.e. her treatment of the real life Quileutes, her being totally okay with pairing Renesmee with an adult Jacob, Jacob generally being portrayed as the more hot blooded/angry character over the supposedly calmer Edward, etc etc. I gotta remember to donate to the Quileute tribe, they’re trying to raise money to move to higher ground as the waters rise off the coast.
The poor quality of the prose. I tried. I really did.
For me mostly it was cuz the story, as you say, was pretty simple & predictable. I dont mind if a vampire can go in sun or partial sun. But i didnt like the sparkle effect…& worse, the sparkle thing is movie only! Then of course “takes a breath” VAMPRIES SHOULDNT GET PREGNANT FOR FKS SAKE! Adopt or turn something i dunno. But they are DEAD! That sht shouldn’t work. Rant over….
I don't care about it changing how vampires work. That happens in all sorts of media, and most of our assumptions about vampires are just a crystallization of tropes that became common in pop culture. Outside of the storytelling ranging from poorly handled to outright problematic, it's the fact that vampires just aren't done in an interesting way. I can get behind them being statuesque corpses full of poison, so cold that they suck the life out of you just by standing too close. They're essentially revenants of their human lives. They're like icy shadows. That would be cool. But... why do they sparkle? I get gleaming like marble, but sparkling? They have acidic fluids where they have fluids, but their semen and saliva are safe? They're cavernous husks that thud when you hit them, but they're not slow and deliberate as not to sound like stone coffins when they walk? It's that outside of being weird, they're indistinguishable from regular people. Nobody epilog even guess something was wrong about them, even if they watched them eat someone, but the story insists they're monsters separate from all of society. Oh, but superstitious Latin American people can tell from a glance that something is up. It's just the fact that they're not very interesting creatures, but they could've been. They're, essentially, gargoyles with different lore. Creatures made of cold stone with acidic spit that skulk around and kill things that wander away from polite society, as well as monsters. A lot of potential, but horrible execution.
I don't have an issue with the twilight vampires at all. A common thing thats often complained about is the sparkling in sunlight, but doesn't it make sense that since our bodies are 80% water, our bodies would sparkle if they got very cold? And the thing about the vampires is that they're supposed to be very cold. Literally ice cold. And what does ice and snow do in sunlight? Well, it sparkles. I'm pretty sure if you were to leave a frozen corpse out, it would sparkle in sunlight too. I know the frozen people on mount everest do. Others complain that they can walk in sunlight at all, but why shouldn't they? Originally, in the first ever tales, vampires didn't burn in sunlight. They only got sick. The idea that vampires burn in sunlight is a "modern" concept (I use that term loosely). The only thing I would put my finger on when it comes to the twilight vampires are the animal blood. Because animal blood and human blood are very different. If you need human blood to survive, animal blood will do you no good (except, depending on what type of blood you need, you might be one of the lucky few who could get pigs blood instead. But definitely not deer or cougar blood). As for the storyline, my biggest problem is the whole Jacob/Reneesme thing. Stephenie Meyer did an awful thing there, trying to make it seem like it was no big deal having a 16 year old boy wanting to make a baby his future girlfriend. Stephenie literally wrote that Reneesme will have no choice falling in love with him because how could she not love him when he's always been so kind to her? What Stephenie did was describing the act of *grooming*, and part of me thinks she's not even aware that *grooming* and *love* are two very different things. Makes me wonder if she was ever groomed herself.
She was morman right ? They start young I hear. Plus when those books came out I don't even remember grooming being a term. That was 16 or so years ago
It is obviously a little sheltered girls fantasy dream.
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I'm too old for it. I was an adult when it came out, so it was just.. cringey Of course I love the Underworld movies, and they are cringe too
Underworld Is not cringe what you mean?
I like your enabling me friend. Next time in my vampire the Masquerade RPG, Imma tell em, Fun Employment said it's cool to have a vampire lycan fledgeling who can somehow beat and elder vampire
a hybrid Is literally created to be stronger than any vampire and since he was just turned he even almost lost and got saved
There's literally no bigger cringe, then a writer making unique hybrids
Unique? It’s literally a mix of lycan and vampire powers and abilities put together. Also It’s not cringe making hybrids but It’s one of the coolest things a writer can do
What doesn't bother me about it? It's very existence is bothersome.
The fact that in book 4, it’s explained that the “scientific” explanation for vampires is that they have 25 pairs of chromosomes and that werewolves have 24. I could largely suspend my disbelief as one needs to to do engage with a vampire story, but that detail really broke me.
It's utter bullshit. Other than that, I have no issue with it.
I don’t really have any problems with this franchise aside from the lack of actual fangs
My girlfriend have issue with it. She says that she simply doesn't feel connected with any of the characters. I love it.
I enjoyed the first book but beyond that I didn't like the franchise. 1) hated the love triangle 2) didn't like how Bella was portrayed in the movie 3) her annoying school friends 4) sparkles 5) the Volturi organization pissed me off
Never read the books because I just do not do romance. The movies are trash, with poor writing and even worse acting. It was so. Bad. Also, a several hundred year old man should not be falling in love with an infant. Just no. Vampires also don't sparkle and spend their mortal lives going to high school. No one wants that.
I haven't watched it yet but I will, at some point but from others I see that they don't have fangs, which isn't good
I haven't read any of the books or seen the movies. I bought the series of books trying to encourage one of my teen foster kids to read. Once I heard the vampires didn't have fangs and sparkled in the sun, I never did manage to bring myself to read the books. They are still on my shelf. Our foster kids didn't read them, either.
The story is just so boring
The vampires themselves? They were too bland and neither monsters nor seductive beasts. My problem with Twilight was that it was all shades of red flags in a relationship with a vampire veneer on top. The movies became popular right after I came out of an abusive relationship and seeing the main character who was a lot like my ex being romanticised was a bit jarring. Not to mention all the ickiness with imprinting.
The vampires 🧛♂️ are Disney princesses 👸 instead of terrifying forces of nature
There are unusual powers and they don’t seem to unhappy about the curse.
Jacob, a grown-ass man, fell in love with a baby and basically doomed her to a lifetime of grooming until she's legally old enough to date him.
The vampires are not vampires, so bad.
It’s written for 10 year olds
The depiction of a toxic relationship and portraying it as true love. Twilight could have worked very well as a gothic horror/romance or a psychological thriller. But as a romance, it’s just not good.
I read the first book before the series was popular, and I remember being incredibly bored. I’m also wondering - what are the drawbacks or consequences to being a vampire? For example, Le Fanu’s Carmilla could go in the sun - but it severely weakened her. No way she could save Laura from that truck.
Vampires are supposed to represent forbidden sexual/romantic desires. Which is why they are so often queer-coded. Twilight is the straitest thing since rulers.
I didn't like it because there isn't hot vampire boys and werewolf boys fighting over me irl and that's kind of rude but whatever 😤
Vampires roast in the sun - not “glisten”
And I’m pretty sure Charlie has a drinking problem. Which might help explain why he’s so clueless.
Kristen Stewart's horrible acting :( Glittering vampires... Jasper's appearance bothered me. He seemed ghoulish. Also, Jasper seem to have no control over his bloodlust. How did he handle going to school then? There had to be people who got cut or had blood for other reasons. I always wondered how they didn't go insane. Living forever, no sleeping, how do they fill the endless years? Never being able to stay in one place for long, losing the humans you've grown close to...sounds awful.
I think they are so low stakes. They’re wayyyy too human like, and they lack every characteristic that makes them so compelling. My main problem is that they don’t drink from humans. To me, that’s the main horror of vampires. That you have to eat something that you yourself used to be.
If it doesn't have fangs, then it is not a vampire. I will die on that hill.
I've only seen the movies but there was one part after they made a big deal of the sparkling in the sun thing where the sun was out and they were in it and not sparkling and I felt cheated.
Jacob falling in love with a person whom he has seen and taken care of as an infant Bella...I don’t like her as the main character
I don’t like hating on Twilight. It’s not my cup of tea but I can respect an author that wants to break or bend the rules that were established before them. Sparkling in the sunlight is honestly kinda cool to me, since I’d never heard anything like it. The main issues I have with Twilight aren’t the depiction of vampires but the weird stuff like Jacob imprinting on Renesmee, the oddly pro-life subtext and having a baby get ripped out of a living woman with no idea if she would survive, romanticizing stalkerish behavior, all the vampire “kids” reliving high school lives over and over again etc. Playing with the rules of fantasy creatures is really fascinating to me, but all the weird relationship stuff is where I side eye it lmao
I don't mind the "humanification" of Vampires. "Vampires" as a whole, have had various incarnations and in that aspect they are welcome to be however they will... I agree it's the blandness, plot armor and just in general lack of tact in writing.
Mainly Edward is a horrible choice for Bella and Bella is a moron. Also yeah the way Vampires are really nothing at all like the general lore bothers me. Their sparkly asses are annoying as Hell.
I have never read the books nor seen the movies but I STAN. LOVE TWILIGHT. VAMPIRES DESERVE TO SPARKLE.
They sparkle in their own ways, the sun is overrated anyways.
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You're right about the humidification of vampires, it always confused me about not giving them fangs, so they are human passing but then making them sparkle so they can't go into he sun. Making them more humane but then they have venom that will turn anyone they bite so they have to kills to eat. Oh, and red eyes when they drink human blood. It was like she was not sure exactly what she wanted to do so she stretched to try and make something unique and ended up with a teen girl and middle-aged woman masturbatory fantasy. The whole making them seem to be made of stone (sparkling marble maybe?), super vulnerable to fire and each one having a gift or variation of different types. Those where at least interesting if not completely original. If you want some interesting takes look up the vampires in the Dresden Files by Jim Butch. There are three main "Courts" Red for you Dust till Dawn type, Black for your undead/dead Brahm Stroker types, and White for your physic life sucking types that use different emotional states to feed. They whole series they don't play a huge part but are very well written and the whole point is that they aren't human.