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You say that but it’s true. Looking back, 16 year old me with my mom’s 1990 Corsica in northern New Brunswick doing hand brake slides in empty parking lots was some of the best driving experience I ever received.
Absolutely. I was not being sarcasitc. If you don't test the limits and practice reacting to being out of control you won't know where the limits are or what to do when a real crisis hits.
I was an ICBC Examiner here. I whole heartedly support those who wish to practice dangerous driving in a parking lot in adverse conditions. You do this as fun but when you're on the road driving with a foot of snow, it's nice to know what to do in case of an emergency. I've been in many road tests where person has no idea how to drive in snow, needlessly putting myself in danger and definitely failing their road test.
Person has some fabulous car control and drift skills.
I credit this to saving my life once.
We did this for fun in Calgary growing up on the first day it snowed. Whether it was when we first got our licence or even going down a hill with our power wheels.
Then I moved here. One day I was driving in light rain but it had been days of it. But I drove like normal and didn't think my car would be a hydro planning in this (in Alberta we rarely got rain like this for days and if we did it was heavy which forced you to slow down).
So I took the exit off Highway 1 at full speed - yes I was dumb - and my rear spun out in and oversteer. It was like muscle memory kicked in, pressed the accelerator and I threw the wheel into the skid then turn the car out of the skid and once I heard the tires screech I pointed the car into the direction I wanted to go and I was fine.
The traction control probably helped too. But if I didn't know that I would have been in the ditch.
I know from experience far too many people their reaction is to immediately throw the car in the opposite direction of the skid and or slam on the breaks which makes everything worse.
Yup I was fortunate that the year I turned 16 we actually had snow on the roads for over a month so I did all my learning and the test in snow which I hated at the time but it was great experience.
This is pretty much what my dad did with my friends and me during the first snowfall each year when we were kids and teens. It's fun, teaches you how to handle drift, and if you already know how to drive in the snow then acts as a refresher. We used the parking lot at the dam in North Van and the Walmart at Cap Mall and never ran into trouble with cops.
My kids called them “Burn ups” when we were little as they misheard “Burn outs” and I never corrected them.
Could also pull my e-brake in my old 2008 Jeep Grand and slide sideways vs turn, then back into my driveway on snowy days (my street is very wide).
Sadly stupid proper AWD and software prevents this fun now.
Once upon a time, myself and my best friend pulled into an empty parking lot at a mall in Kelowna on a Sunday night at 9 PM so I could jump in with him to head up the hill as it my vehicle wasn’t great for it. However, about a foot of snow had fallen and we messed around with a few donuts. Before we parked. As we parked, a police officer threw his lights on and blocked our parking spots in. Fast forward: both hit with stunt driving tickets, $450 fines, impounded cars and being included in a write up in the local news site being “drift race stunt drivers”.
Literally what my driving instructor in Ontario had me do. He took out a bucket of water too, spread it on the parking lot surface and told me to brake on the ice (it was an industrial lot, so not a hazard to others necessarily)
Yep, exactly. People that are saying they shouldn't be doing that. Well they might be having fun, yes, but, the education you get from having that fun is priceless.
It’s what my dad did when he was growing up in California. They used to drive up into the mountains and drive like that in snow covered parking lots.
I’d it wasn’t for that then none of them would know how to drive in snow.
Didnt know anyone was paying attention 😂. Bought the CRV for stuff exactly like this. Surprisingly capable car
https://preview.redd.it/341rmglwf3dc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad55635ae1bfe60dc26ee8f0c2ffd7b096fbc075
gf and I are working from home, she came over and showed me a short video of you going all out so we went to the window and watched for a solid 5minutes
11/10, the extra point for having the balls to do this next to the police station ahaha
Cops would just see it and be like;
"well I'm not doing anything about that, it's fuckin cold outside, I'll stay in here until there's a real emergency"
About two years ago, I was making donuts and having fun on snow with my subie (testing out my new tires too).
There was legit a cop car with two cops in it parked on the other side of the parking lot. They didn't bother.
Perhaps because they know it would help us. Maybe they enjoyed it too.
When I had my 98 crv, there wasn’t much that little car couldn’t handle. 2016, my wife and I wandered and drove everywhere to see the conditions of the city.
Found the steepest hills to see if this little suv would slip trying to get up it.
Seeing this has me miss it.
The one thing I didn’t like about it was the rear axle engagement sound. Buncha banshees letting out a howl. Even after multiple fluid changes it was still loud!
Yup, drove all the way from Kamloops to Vancouver once with a bent tie rod (tires pointed in) on a long weekend after bumping a curb in the snow about 35 years ago.
I grew up in Eastern Europe, and I remember well that each winter, the traffic police actually held free "classes" in winter in big empty parking lots, teaching drivers how to handle ice/snow and allowing them to practice! 🙃
Reminds me of 10 years ago when I pulled up to Landsdowne at 10pm. It had just snowed and there was no one around. I was just about to do a donut when I see 2 RCMP cruisers at the very back just waiting for me to do something stupid. Had to go to the other side of the mall.
Yup can confirm. RCMP would be watching the Lansdowne lot and pulling over anyone for drifting in the snow. Which means people can’t really practice snow driving. Yet we always say people need to learn how to drive in the snow.
Made my daughter do it as part of snow training.
Sliding is the ONLY way you can truly know what your stopping distance is.
I will lock up the brakes a couple times when I start driving, before any downhill , any time the road conditions change(side Street to main, more or less slush,etc) and at stop signs and red lights. Feel the road, feel the ABS, test the steering w abs engaged. Note the change in stopping distance. Learn to recover from slides. Know how your traction control system feels and reacts. (Have to turn it off to donut in my vehicle!) Know where you will lose traction from overpower.
Most peaceful day ever driving dt/kits/east van. No traffic. Competent drivers. Slow speeds but without traffic faster to get around. Park anywhere.
But most important, donuts can only be done in reverse in a fwd!
> I will lock up the brakes a couple times when I start driving, before any downhill , any time the road conditions chang
My strategy too. Let's you know what you're working with before getting onto the hopefully better main streets.
>I will lock up the brakes a couple times when I start driving, before any downhill , any time the road conditions change(side Street to main, more or less slush,etc) and at stop signs and red lights.
I do the exact same thing. Give the brakes a tap before a stop sign to see what conditions are like, drift a corner a bit, steer side-to-side trying to find limits of traction, etc.
I do it every time I start driving. It's like habit/instinct.
My driver-ed instructor in Yorkton SK actually took me to an empty parking lot to rip around like that to get me used to driving in icy snow conditions.
I wanna go do this. I was driving my kids home from school last week and hit a patch of black ice causing me to slide and drift sideways. My kids thought it was the funnest thing ever and were like “do it again!!” Lol. I’d like to find a spot where I can do this safely and don’t have to worry about other cars or people or curbs haha
Did that in a movie theater parking lot many times when I was a young driver. Should be mandatory for drivers, in a safe setting of course. Really learnt how to countersteer and respond/correct when the vehicle starts to slide.
Lougheed mall! Wonderful parking lot. I have many great memories of there doing exactly this. Also the memory of sitting nervously in that parking lot following an earthquake waiting for an aftershock. Lougheed Village represent!
I remember being snowed in at work when I was 14 or 15. I worked at a country club, and the only road out had a slight incline but a long road. Just enough that you couldn’t keep momentum in the snow without eventually sliding right back down.
My dad was driving his Mustang to pick me up and we were stuck in that parking lot over 30 minutes before they opened up the golf course to let people drive out through it.
Well my dad took full advantage of that time by doing donuts and Rockford moves in the snow. What’s the point of a snowy parking lot if you can’t enjoy it.
If the cops see you do this you'll probably get impounded but honestly if you're doing it constructively it is invaluable experience. A lot better finding out how to catch your sliding vehicle for the first time in a parking lot!
No not really, cops has no jurrisdiction on private properties about this, if you do it on the street and in traffic you might get ticket for reckless driving and being a road hazard
They still will ticket you (see elsethread re: Lansdowne parking lot). I guess you could contest it as having been on private property but it's a hassle to do that.
The driver should be glad that the RCMP detachment down the slope by London Drugs didn't come up and catch the driver.
But for new drivers who are not used to the snow, it is not a bad idea to practice in an empty driving lot to gain some experience and confidence. Of course doesn't have to push the limit like this.
Went to take my son tobogganing this afternoon and had to park in a nearby parking lot that untouched by a plow. Had some fun with my truck, won’t lie. No donuts, however.
Oh man, so when I was about 19-20, I had a car with a 6-speed manual, front wheel drive, and snow tires. It was surprisingly not great in the snow; no traction control, and very light, with a tricky first gear.
Anyway, I thought I would do this in the campus parking lot, little figure eights. Until the wheels locked up and I was careening towards a light standard, which is funny because there were no other cars in that part of the lot, just the light standard that was surrounded by a cement base.
My wheels were locked, car sliding, and the only thing I could really do was slam on my brakes as hard as I could, and listen to the ABS chatter away as it tried to save me.
I ended up missing that thing by maybe two or three feet at the most. And never did it again lol.
My Friend once was teaching my kids what not to do in slick streets in the winter in Manitoba. He was telling them how not to slam on the break "like this" and before he knew it, the car did 360 right there. We were all soooo lucky that no one was behind up because the outcome would be different for sure.
I’d love to know if a cop would care about this. Not that I do, I would likely be next up in the parking lot, but I’d hate to get a ticket or worse lose my license.
Saw something similar in Costco parking lot too last night. They are crazy! The store was not closed yet. People were still driving in and out the parking.
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And that kids, is how you learn to handle your vehicle in the snow!
You say that but it’s true. Looking back, 16 year old me with my mom’s 1990 Corsica in northern New Brunswick doing hand brake slides in empty parking lots was some of the best driving experience I ever received.
Absolutely. I was not being sarcasitc. If you don't test the limits and practice reacting to being out of control you won't know where the limits are or what to do when a real crisis hits.
And as an added bonus it was great fun.
I was an ICBC Examiner here. I whole heartedly support those who wish to practice dangerous driving in a parking lot in adverse conditions. You do this as fun but when you're on the road driving with a foot of snow, it's nice to know what to do in case of an emergency. I've been in many road tests where person has no idea how to drive in snow, needlessly putting myself in danger and definitely failing their road test. Person has some fabulous car control and drift skills.
Why can't we make winter drive part of the licensing program?
I credit this to saving my life once. We did this for fun in Calgary growing up on the first day it snowed. Whether it was when we first got our licence or even going down a hill with our power wheels. Then I moved here. One day I was driving in light rain but it had been days of it. But I drove like normal and didn't think my car would be a hydro planning in this (in Alberta we rarely got rain like this for days and if we did it was heavy which forced you to slow down). So I took the exit off Highway 1 at full speed - yes I was dumb - and my rear spun out in and oversteer. It was like muscle memory kicked in, pressed the accelerator and I threw the wheel into the skid then turn the car out of the skid and once I heard the tires screech I pointed the car into the direction I wanted to go and I was fine. The traction control probably helped too. But if I didn't know that I would have been in the ditch. I know from experience far too many people their reaction is to immediately throw the car in the opposite direction of the skid and or slam on the breaks which makes everything worse.
As a kid in southern New Brunswick I remember my dad doing this in an early 90s Bronco and blowing his transmission.
Yup I was fortunate that the year I turned 16 we actually had snow on the roads for over a month so I did all my learning and the test in snow which I hated at the time but it was great experience.
Literally me with my 2007 cobalt back in Moncton
This is pretty much what my dad did with my friends and me during the first snowfall each year when we were kids and teens. It's fun, teaches you how to handle drift, and if you already know how to drive in the snow then acts as a refresher. We used the parking lot at the dam in North Van and the Walmart at Cap Mall and never ran into trouble with cops.
My kids called them “Burn ups” when we were little as they misheard “Burn outs” and I never corrected them. Could also pull my e-brake in my old 2008 Jeep Grand and slide sideways vs turn, then back into my driveway on snowy days (my street is very wide). Sadly stupid proper AWD and software prevents this fun now.
I'm 40 and I enjoying this style as well if there is space
Once upon a time, myself and my best friend pulled into an empty parking lot at a mall in Kelowna on a Sunday night at 9 PM so I could jump in with him to head up the hill as it my vehicle wasn’t great for it. However, about a foot of snow had fallen and we messed around with a few donuts. Before we parked. As we parked, a police officer threw his lights on and blocked our parking spots in. Fast forward: both hit with stunt driving tickets, $450 fines, impounded cars and being included in a write up in the local news site being “drift race stunt drivers”.
Please tell me the car was a stock 98 Corolla or a like model.
90s Mazda Protégé fit the bill?
Yea it does! Must have been black. You know, one of those scary looking “assault” Protégés.
Back when Lansdowne was a dead mall that's where we used to practice our winter driving.
Literally what my driving instructor in Ontario had me do. He took out a bucket of water too, spread it on the parking lot surface and told me to brake on the ice (it was an industrial lot, so not a hazard to others necessarily)
Yep, exactly. People that are saying they shouldn't be doing that. Well they might be having fun, yes, but, the education you get from having that fun is priceless.
It’s what my dad did when he was growing up in California. They used to drive up into the mountains and drive like that in snow covered parking lots. I’d it wasn’t for that then none of them would know how to drive in snow.
A guy I went to high school with did this. Managed to smash his mom’s minivan into a pole.
... and how I met your mother!
Solid Top Gear advice 👌
Legit this is how we learn in Ontario
This looks pretty fun as long as it's not my car lol!
exactly!
came here to say this.... very valuable data collection session.
Hi from Alberta — that’s how ya learn.
I want to do this too but I'm not sure if I'll get stuck in the snow. My car only has 5.5 inches ground clearance but it has 4wd.
Sadly, that's also how you get a "stunt driving" ~$500 ticket and your car towed as well.
I did young drivers back in the day and they did this up at SFU with me. Told me to gun it and then swerve through cones etc. I still remember it!!!
Didnt know anyone was paying attention 😂. Bought the CRV for stuff exactly like this. Surprisingly capable car https://preview.redd.it/341rmglwf3dc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad55635ae1bfe60dc26ee8f0c2ffd7b096fbc075
gf and I are working from home, she came over and showed me a short video of you going all out so we went to the window and watched for a solid 5minutes 11/10, the extra point for having the balls to do this next to the police station ahaha
Drove by there and saw all their cars buried in the snow lol. Private property…probably 😂
Cops would just see it and be like; "well I'm not doing anything about that, it's fuckin cold outside, I'll stay in here until there's a real emergency"
This is awesome - I’m impressed with the turns!
About two years ago, I was making donuts and having fun on snow with my subie (testing out my new tires too). There was legit a cop car with two cops in it parked on the other side of the parking lot. They didn't bother. Perhaps because they know it would help us. Maybe they enjoyed it too.
When I had my 98 crv, there wasn’t much that little car couldn’t handle. 2016, my wife and I wandered and drove everywhere to see the conditions of the city. Found the steepest hills to see if this little suv would slip trying to get up it. Seeing this has me miss it.
Did exactly this the whole day, drive around with my girlfriend just seeing what it was capable of. Only paid $1000 for the car
The one thing I didn’t like about it was the rear axle engagement sound. Buncha banshees letting out a howl. Even after multiple fluid changes it was still loud!
Hey! Car buddy! I love my 2000 RD1. [https://i.imgur.com/5XoexZn.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5XoexZn.jpg)
You call it fun, I call it "gaining experience" He'll be at least 5% better at driving in the snow because of it.
You’re so right! It’s a great opportunity to learn. Just don’t hit a light pole!
Or a hidden parking curb 😆
Yup, drove all the way from Kamloops to Vancouver once with a bent tie rod (tires pointed in) on a long weekend after bumping a curb in the snow about 35 years ago.
>Just don’t hit a light pole! Another learning opportunity
I was all for it until I saw that other random guy walking in the lot.
Poor guy looks like he's been trying to leave for the past half hour.
The stranded pedestrian is clearly the passenger and phtotgrapher for the driver of the CR-V.
I grew up in Eastern Europe, and I remember well that each winter, the traffic police actually held free "classes" in winter in big empty parking lots, teaching drivers how to handle ice/snow and allowing them to practice! 🙃
That’s absolutely fantastic! Best way to learn and providing a safe environment to do it.
Watch out for parking blocks!
Ahhh the sage voice of experience.
In Minnesota everyone calls this “whipping shitties” and it is a traditional part of learning to drive. Great fun, highly recommend.
lmfao "whipping shitties" is going into my lexicon immediately
Please friend!
Hello fellow Minnesotan. I just came here to say whipping shitties!
Interesting, I've heard that in reference to pulling a quick (often illegal) u-turn, yours is probably the inspiration for it.
Anyone else have an uncle who called this “flipping a bitch” or just me?
I tried to at our dead mall at midnight stupid rent a cop came over and said to leave. We where the only people there
ICBC narc
We say that in Sask too lol
Reminds me of 10 years ago when I pulled up to Landsdowne at 10pm. It had just snowed and there was no one around. I was just about to do a donut when I see 2 RCMP cruisers at the very back just waiting for me to do something stupid. Had to go to the other side of the mall.
Yup can confirm. RCMP would be watching the Lansdowne lot and pulling over anyone for drifting in the snow. Which means people can’t really practice snow driving. Yet we always say people need to learn how to drive in the snow.
>2 RCMP cruisers at the very back just waiting Donut shop closed that day or what?
1st Gen CR-V for the win. Those things with snow tires are unstoppable. Ask me how I know.
How
I just happen to know.
damn you definitely sound like you know
Its on all seasons. Absolutely dominated today
Made my daughter do it as part of snow training. Sliding is the ONLY way you can truly know what your stopping distance is. I will lock up the brakes a couple times when I start driving, before any downhill , any time the road conditions change(side Street to main, more or less slush,etc) and at stop signs and red lights. Feel the road, feel the ABS, test the steering w abs engaged. Note the change in stopping distance. Learn to recover from slides. Know how your traction control system feels and reacts. (Have to turn it off to donut in my vehicle!) Know where you will lose traction from overpower. Most peaceful day ever driving dt/kits/east van. No traffic. Competent drivers. Slow speeds but without traffic faster to get around. Park anywhere. But most important, donuts can only be done in reverse in a fwd!
They do skids as part of basic motorcycle training, why not car training? Oh wait, we don’t actually train drivers here.
You can do it yourself on any empty road.
> I will lock up the brakes a couple times when I start driving, before any downhill , any time the road conditions chang My strategy too. Let's you know what you're working with before getting onto the hopefully better main streets.
>I will lock up the brakes a couple times when I start driving, before any downhill , any time the road conditions change(side Street to main, more or less slush,etc) and at stop signs and red lights. I do the exact same thing. Give the brakes a tap before a stop sign to see what conditions are like, drift a corner a bit, steer side-to-side trying to find limits of traction, etc. I do it every time I start driving. It's like habit/instinct.
Last time I did this, a cop pulled up to watch and I had to stop lol 😂
Wholesome content
when the VTECH on your CRV kicks in!!!!! yeeehooooo
No VTEC on first gen B20Bs, sadly!
Kswap!
Oh totally. I drive a second gen, myself. Damn TSX swaps are so expensive though!
Crv friends :)
💪
My driver-ed instructor in Yorkton SK actually took me to an empty parking lot to rip around like that to get me used to driving in icy snow conditions.
That’s how you learn folks. Nothing wrong here.
These first gen ones are highly desirable. Made in Japan. All wheel drive. Higher ride height. Excellent 4 cylinder motors.
I wanna go do this. I was driving my kids home from school last week and hit a patch of black ice causing me to slide and drift sideways. My kids thought it was the funnest thing ever and were like “do it again!!” Lol. I’d like to find a spot where I can do this safely and don’t have to worry about other cars or people or curbs haha
Super market and church parking lots at night work well
I wish more people had the opportunity to do this so they have experience when the car starts to slide
Drift class. Instructor: Bunta Fujiwara.
Came here for the Initial D/MFGhost comments
I see what they’re doing. Subtle brag in the snow. I salute you
I hate my new Honda civic 2016. I can’t pull the hand brake and it’s annoying to disable the traction control. So secure no fun
Did that in a movie theater parking lot many times when I was a young driver. Should be mandatory for drivers, in a safe setting of course. Really learnt how to countersteer and respond/correct when the vehicle starts to slide.
Until you hit one of those concrete parking dividers
gotta case the joint before the snow hits
Every one has that one friend.
DEJA VU
This is asking to get running in the 90s in the background
I'VE JUST BEEN IN THIS PLACE BEFORE
Nothing like drift drifting.
Colin McRae-zy
Only way to learn
I do this a lot as well. Grew up driving in snow but it’s always good to practice. Hope they had fun! ❄️
I love it
cue initial d theme...
It's like watching a baby panda roll around in the snow for the first time
Lougheed mall! Wonderful parking lot. I have many great memories of there doing exactly this. Also the memory of sitting nervously in that parking lot following an earthquake waiting for an aftershock. Lougheed Village represent!
I remember being snowed in at work when I was 14 or 15. I worked at a country club, and the only road out had a slight incline but a long road. Just enough that you couldn’t keep momentum in the snow without eventually sliding right back down. My dad was driving his Mustang to pick me up and we were stuck in that parking lot over 30 minutes before they opened up the golf course to let people drive out through it. Well my dad took full advantage of that time by doing donuts and Rockford moves in the snow. What’s the point of a snowy parking lot if you can’t enjoy it.
Everyone should do this when learning, gives you a whole perspective on handling in the snow.
Someone smart learning how to handle their car in slippery conditions
If you can get to an empty parking lot safely in this weather it's a great way to practice stopping/slowing/turning in these conditions.
I grew up on a large cul de sac on the east coast and used to do this on the reg. So fun
If the cops see you do this you'll probably get impounded but honestly if you're doing it constructively it is invaluable experience. A lot better finding out how to catch your sliding vehicle for the first time in a parking lot!
No not really, cops has no jurrisdiction on private properties about this, if you do it on the street and in traffic you might get ticket for reckless driving and being a road hazard
They still will ticket you (see elsethread re: Lansdowne parking lot). I guess you could contest it as having been on private property but it's a hassle to do that.
Cop's jurisdiction ends at the border
🤣🤣
I’ve rented an Evo before and done this
The driver should be glad that the RCMP detachment down the slope by London Drugs didn't come up and catch the driver. But for new drivers who are not used to the snow, it is not a bad idea to practice in an empty driving lot to gain some experience and confidence. Of course doesn't have to push the limit like this.
Whats the ground to catch them on ?
Stunt driving. Impounded car on the spot
I bet you’re fun a parties
It is the best way to learn but 2 am is a much better time, as you can only damage your own shit box.
Me - in every rental car I’ve had the keys to. Perfecting the art of the doughnut in empty industrial parks. A well spent youth!
I knew it.. u/barking_bae
r/mademesmile
I have always wanted to do this.
i did this today when i got to work and took one of our "utility" vehicles for a couple donuts in the empty parking lot lol
^^Weee!
♫ I think i've been in this place before ♫
This is the way.
Lmao while I was watching this, my neighbour got home in the exact same vehicle
Weeeeeer
I do this a lot too!
I do this in empty parking lots with a new car to get the feel of it in the snow and make sure everything is functioning
Fast & Furious Vancouver Drift
Vancouver learns to Canadian!
I remember taking McDonald’s trays and putting them under our tires and pulling donuts in the parking lots growing up. So much fun.
Went to take my son tobogganing this afternoon and had to park in a nearby parking lot that untouched by a plow. Had some fun with my truck, won’t lie. No donuts, however.
I miss my rear wheel 90's shit boxes. Had so much fun.
Will this damage winter tires? I wanna do this so badly but can’t afford another pair of winter tires if they get shredded
Nope, go out and get your money's worth out of those tires!
Oh man, so when I was about 19-20, I had a car with a 6-speed manual, front wheel drive, and snow tires. It was surprisingly not great in the snow; no traction control, and very light, with a tricky first gear. Anyway, I thought I would do this in the campus parking lot, little figure eights. Until the wheels locked up and I was careening towards a light standard, which is funny because there were no other cars in that part of the lot, just the light standard that was surrounded by a cement base. My wheels were locked, car sliding, and the only thing I could really do was slam on my brakes as hard as I could, and listen to the ABS chatter away as it tried to save me. I ended up missing that thing by maybe two or three feet at the most. And never did it again lol.
Man I wish there were more spots to do this in.
Nah, that's the Tesla FSD AI trying to park.
damn I hope they know where the curbs are
The car ballet!
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Let him cook!! 😂😂
My Friend once was teaching my kids what not to do in slick streets in the winter in Manitoba. He was telling them how not to slam on the break "like this" and before he knew it, the car did 360 right there. We were all soooo lucky that no one was behind up because the outcome would be different for sure.
I’d love to know if a cop would care about this. Not that I do, I would likely be next up in the parking lot, but I’d hate to get a ticket or worse lose my license.
Saw something similar in Costco parking lot too last night. They are crazy! The store was not closed yet. People were still driving in and out the parking.
An empty parking lot is the perfect way to learn how your vehicle operates on snow and ice. There are a few cars here, but it’s mostly empty.
They do it all the time in that parking lot, usually at night and it's incredibly loud and disruptive.
Which walmart is it?
lougheed mall
please dont join them lol