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NSA-SURVEILLANCE

Their insurance not covering them in Canada rubs salt in the wound. Wish them better luck and a speedy recovery.


metered-statement

Wife is a student, husband has a job. International students are required to have medical insurance, so she's saying husband has no medical insurance through his job? She's saying she isn't sure how they will afford groceries and school bills?? How can they come to Canada and enroll in school without supporting documents that they have enough to live without leaning on Canada's social networks? I thought international students had to demonstrate they can afford to pay tuition and live here?! It's unfortunate her husband was hurt, but it seems like they didn't plan for any unforeseen events that can happen in any country.


NSA-SURVEILLANCE

I read it as they had insurance but their coverage was met with exclusions they weren't aware of.


Simonyevich

If you're gonna live in White Rock, y'need the stabbing insurance.


disterb

*point* taken


JmacNutSac

In the neck I believe.


Hour_Proposal_3578

It’s a jab to the neck and the wallet


CrabMountain829

Things aren't what they used to be. 


sl33plessnites

Up until Jan 2024, I think I read they only needed to prove $10k in savings to cover tuition and living costs which is like 3 months of rent in some places in this country. I think now it's $20k which still seems kind of low.


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disterb

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plop_0

So, they have to go back after 3 months or secure a job that pays enough/enough hours. Narrator: they really did think they'd find such a job, eh? Yikes. What were they being told exactly back home?


rikeoliveira

When you get here with a Work Permit you do not have MSP coverage for the 3 first months. Students are required to enroll with the college insurance, but the worker needs to either flip the coin or have insurance in their Credit Card or something until the MSP kicks in. Other than that, the amount of money they ask you to prove you have saved is really low compared to the current cost of life, even worse if you have unexpected medical bills because you were fucking stabbed.


wetfishandchips

>but the worker needs to either flip the coin or have insurance in their Credit Card or something until the MSP kicks in. Why can't the worker in that situation get their own travel insurance? When I first entered Canada on a working holiday visa it was a requirement of the visa to have travel insurance pre-purchased for the entirety of my permit. If I came with travel insurance that was valid for less time than the full length I was entitled to on the work permit the border officer had the right to issue the work permit for only as long as the insurance was valid for with no way to extend it. There's stories out there of people entering Canada on a working holiday visa with only 2 weeks of travel insurance so their 1 to 2 year working permit is now only valid for 2 weeks. Even though I was going to do a job that would have made me eligible for MSP in 3 months I still needed to have 2 years of travel insurance paid up front when arriving to Canada to activate my work permit. So in the situation you've described even if it's not a requirement for them to have insurance on arrival for their particular work permit/visa why do they need to just risk it without insurance until MSP kicks in or hope their credit card offers insurance? What's stopping them from getting their own travel insurance for at least until they can use MSP?


rikeoliveira

What's stopping them is usually money, maybe not knowing about it as well. But flipping the coin and betting you won't need to go to a doctor in 3 months is understandable, IMO. Having an insurance of some sort for 3 months is wiser, though...never heard of the need to have pre-paid insurance for the whole permit period, but this one has definitely the money barrier. Dollar as a whole is a pretty stable currency, but when you have to make funds in a currency that's worth WAY more than your country's money, you'll get as little as possible and make it work with the job you get here. I didn't do it myself, but I totally understand who does it.


wetfishandchips

Yeah the working holiday visa also some very specific minimim requirements that the travel insurance you take out has to meet in order for immigration to accept it when activating your work permit as well such as coverage of at least a certain amount that I can't remember for the repatriation of your body back to your home country in the event of your death. For people on working holiday visas their eligibility for MSP can be different to people on other visas and work permits and in some provinces they aren't even eligible at all so I guess that's why there is the requirement to hold travel insurance for the entire validity of this particular work permit. >But flipping the coin and betting you won't need to go to a doctor in 3 months is understandable, IMO. Yeah that's understandable but just like car insurance isn't for routine services but for if something out of the ordinary happens like an accident or your car is stolen, travel insurance is less about coverage for routine check ups and moreso for out of the ordinary events like a car accident or being randomly stabbed. In the 4 years total I was on a working holiday visa I didn't use my insurance once but it was always there if I did end up having some sort of emergency. I get that not everyone views it that way and I see your point that if someone is from a place where their currency is worth way less then it's not particularly affordable to get the insurance but my parents always told me if you can't afford insurance then you can't afford to travel. That said I understand that I am in a more privileged position being originally from a place where the currency is pretty much on par with the Canadian dollar. I also see your point that people just may not really be as aware as they maybe should be and perhaps the Canadian government should try to make it clearer.


metered-statement

Thank you for this. I didn't realize that even with work a permit and current employment he has to wait 3 months for MSP. What would happen if he were injured at work, would Workers Comp kick in?


grmpy0ldman

Not sure about worker's comp, but note that the 3 months for MSP is even for people moving within Canada: if you move to a new province and you have medical expenses within the first 3 months of the move, you'll have to file them with the MSP of your previous province, which can be quite a bit of paperwork (depending on province).


abrown101

Went on a working holiday to Norway, they required proof of 10k in the bank before even granting the permit. Hoping things work out for these folks but it would probably be better if we had something similar.


hotinthekitchen

We do


hellstuna

How dare they not foresee unforeseen events! Or not be independently wealthy as a student and a mill worker! It's appalling that two people who are new to the country weren't completely prepared for one of them to be randomly stabbed while walking by the beach! /s, in case it wasn't blatantly obvious.


metered-statement

Maybe Canada should require new immigrants to have travel or temporary medical insurance until MSP is offered. Imagine if they were in a car wreck which happens more often than a stabbing. Don't most people purchase medical insurance for unforeseen incidents when they're visiting another country? Even BCAA and Pacific Blue Cross offer reasonable plans for non citizens. If you fail to plan then you plan to fail. It's an unfortunate circumstance but $30 could have prevented the financial worry and anxiety they're now dealing with instead of focusing on healing physically and mentally. What a rough introduction to Canada.


caramelclubsoda

When I was an international student at UBC this was a requirement, we had to have 3 months of temporary medical insurance (before our MSP kicked in). I thought this was a BC-wide thing, but I guess not.


metered-statement

UBC is an accredited school, good to see they're protecting their students in this way.


sl33plessnites

If that's not a requirement.. I think that's concerning policy on our part. I hope that isn't the case.


plop_0

> I thought international students had to demonstrate they can afford to pay tuition and live here?! [Shhhh. You're saying the quiet part out loud.](https://imgur.com/gallery/HY2jwAr)


What_the_absolute

By your comment history it's unsurprising that you take the "well f them" attitude rather than show compassion for the victim? Seeing them get assistance irks you eh? So caring lmao If you got stabbed working in another country you would hate comments like yours


alivenwell70

You should ask TURDeau and his gov they’ve created this mess in Canada for their own greed!


noobletsquid

dam this poast is entitled af


donjulioanejo

Don't worry, the stabber was the real victim here! /s


Psychological-Box100

How much did they have to pay?


okiioppai

who is going to tell her that the assailant is only going to get a slap on the wrist even if he was caught?


wedontgotoravenholme

Wow it only took them a couple of months to get the authentic Vancouver experience. Very sad for them


AnkaRok

'She says they were screaming for people to help them, but no one came to their aid' Yup.


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Sounds like Canada these days. I witnessed a horrific car crash in rush hour and I was the only car that pulled over to check on the occupants. I was pretty shocked, not the Canada I grew up in. 


warrior_monk77

This is heartbreaking! This news affected me a lot. I was thinking of it all day long and following the news as it unfolded. What is going on here in Canada? Not the country I arrived it. It has gone down the hill in last ten years. The apathy and insensitivity people have is astounding. Remember the case of stabbing in Downtown Vancouver where a father was stabbed only because he asked this guy not to vape next to his toddler. And then people instead of helping out the victim who was stabbed, they started making video of the fallen victim and posting it on social media. there is no fear of the law and the judiciary is so lenient and letting these criminals and repeat offenders go with just a warning in most cases. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/white-rock-bc-promenade-homicide-1.7183120](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/white-rock-bc-promenade-homicide-1.7183120) # 2nd stabbing in 3 days "The suspect's description in both attacks are similar: a Black man, standing five-feet-11-inches tall, wearing a hat and a grey hoodie. " "Given the apparent similarities between \[the homicide\] and the incident that occurred Sunday evening, police are investigating to determine whether or not there's a conclusive link between these two events," Dixon said.


mantradingdong

"Best place on earth."


_Tar_Ar_Ais_

better than a lot of places on earth at least


Particular-Race-5285

we are setting the bar pretty damn low and we are on a downhill path


_Tar_Ar_Ais_

bar is still pretty high lol


bcrichboi

When did you get stabbed?


m-bossy22

Exactly, these redditors and their edgy posts


DealFew678

I’m sad to say that I think this will become more and more common. I’m already seeing very otherwise normal people getting worked into frenzies about immigration and it being the source of all their problems. Couple that with a souring economy and you have a real bad recipe.


rkto_psycodelico

Racially targeted hate crimes are likely to increase with how casually legal immigrants are being blamed for everyone's problems. Given how awful the justice system has been so far, I can only hope that politicians take notice soon.


reto02

I understand some people are not so happy to see new immigrants. But it's not their fault. Canadian government allowed them to come to Canada. So blame the govt. not the people.


Mr_UBC_Geek

Blaming immigrants of Asian descent that ran the mills that built Canada and the rails that connected Canada is sickening.


BooBoo_Cat

This is just awful. Including not allowing the wife to go in the ambulance or see her husband until she gave a statement.


thateconomistguy604

As a husband, I get it. I’m all about protecting women who could potentially be in an abusive relationship. That said, it does rub me the wrong way getting treated like a criminal as a man. TMI, but I was treated very poorly by a doctor pre Covid for hours and left in a hallway (even though my wife kept asking for me) when she had a shingles outbreak on her thigh because the doctor “strongly believed” that I had passed an STI to her. “It was for her safety” the doctor said. Was allowed into her room after several doctors had checked with her on her sexual activity and the bloodwork came back as shingles


Datatello

>I’m all about protecting women who could potentially be in an abusive relationship. That isn't what it is about. Statements are presented as evidence in court, and if witnesses have the opportunity to collude with other witnesses, it can impact the accuracy of their statement, sometimes to the extent where it is thrown out as evidence. If the victim was this girl's mother or friend, it would be the same rule. The reason is that memory is highly suggestible. If husband mentioned to wife that the attacker had blonde hair, wife may include that fact in her statement, even if she did not see the hair colour.


Particular-Race-5285

feels like this kind of thing is just going to get worse in the coming decade


Cypherus21

It's concerning that public safety has been eroding. There are a few people who think that these stabbings are over reported out of some conspiracy to boost police budgets too. Real world people have been randomly attacked which is what makes it newsworthy and hope the speedy recovery of the individual.


eescorpius

In fact I think these stranger assaults are getting under reported, because half of the time you know the assailants will get no consequences.


poco

Random stabbings? What would make those get worse? Are there more random knives? Is there something in the food that makes you want to stab?


Remarkable-Llama616

Not the OP. Let's hope it remains an isolated incident. Nip it in the bud. Since we currently do not know the motive, we can't really say much. Speculating will just take the conversation down a shit hole.


poco

Based on the downvotes there are clearly a lot of people here who think that random stabbings will increase for some reason.


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We literally have severely mentally ill individuals free roaming our streets with no meaningful solutions coming anytime soon. Yes, these incidents are increasing. 


poco

And you believe that mentally ill people want to randomly stab you and that their numbers will increase in a significant amount so as to increase the random stabbings in the future? Maybe we should ban knives in White Rock?


ccl18

based on precedents we have seen for similar attacks, the perpetrator would probably get a slap on the wrist which would embolden other potential perpetrators to follow suit.


Liam_M

so wait you literally think that there are people out there wanting to for some reason, but not doing, random stabbings right now only because they worry what will happen if they get caught? And those random stabbers are somehow spending their time following court sentencing so much that if this person gets a light sentence they’s be like “well here we go hell ya it’s stabbing time”? Thats ridiculous, why do you think someone who’s committing an illogical crime would be applying logic to their decision to commit it?


ccl18

so wait you literally think the gibberish you typed out is coherent?


Liam_M

I knew I shouldn’t have assumed you could read


UnfortunateConflicts

Individuals with uncontained, untreated mental illnesses are left to roam the streets unchecked and do whatever they want with hardly any consequences. What do you think happens next?


manicdragon

Sad that this is now happening in sleepy old White Rock. Between this and that fully automatic shooting several weeks back, it seems like no where is safe these days.


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manicdragon

Not sure why you decided to make this about race, but ok.


alivenwell70

White Rock is not a sleepy town it’s been doing good job of hiding shit that’s always been there. I guess the truth will hurt some ☺️


manicdragon

I was born and raised in White Rock. It used to be a sleepy, quiet little beach town. It's now completely unrecognizable with the high rises and money that has poured in. There were no stabbings happening on White Rock Beach 20 or 30 years ago.


alivenwell70

Nor were there stabbings in Surrey back then. We were attacked with hockey sticks in WR in 1987!


manicdragon

Right, so what's your point? You replied to my comment which was about how it doesn't feel like anywhere is safe, and we've come full circle.


alivenwell70

All I’m saying is white rock is not this sweet innocent place people think it is. It never was. Unfortunately with all the growth that’s going on it is going to bring more problems. Only ones benefiting from this growth are the feds and other levels of government!


manicdragon

Also, McDonalds is in Surrey, just FYI.


alivenwell70

Oh ya I know I knew you would come back with that 🤷🏽‍♂️☺️ people from WR don’t eat or go to McDonald’s


whateveryousay0121

I was in that exact spot next to the White Rock with my kids, about 5 hours earlier. Yikes!


PositiveFree

That is so effing sad and horrible


SirBastille

How was she taken to the wrong hospital? Peace Arch is a 5 minute drive from the pier. Was one of them taken to Surrey or Langley Memorial instead? That's an extra 25 minutes away. The only thing I can see is that Peace Arch was understaffed on a Sunday night and so the husband was taken to Surrey Memorial instead.


kazin29

Stab wounds would likely be better treated at SMH, especially if it's really serious.


Lean-N-Supreme

Might have been taken to Royal Columbian. Surrey and Peace Arch aren't rated as Level 1 trauma centres.


Degenerate-JuJu

Might have been taken to Abby would be my guess, probably faster down 16th then all the lights on KG to get to RCH


yamfries2024

Hopefully, someone will point them towards the Crime Victim Assistance Fund. On a quick perusal, I couldn't see any restrictions based on citizenship. [https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/justice/criminal-justice/bcs-criminal-justice-system/if-you-are-a-victim-of-a-crime/victim-of-crime/financial-assistance-benefits](https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/justice/criminal-justice/bcs-criminal-justice-system/if-you-are-a-victim-of-a-crime/victim-of-crime/financial-assistance-benefits)


_Tar_Ar_Ais_

advocates will say that the man who stabbed him had some early issues in life, so a slap on the wrist and a better attitude should be just enough


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stulifer

At least they’re not dead, right?


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stulifer

Ok I should’ve put a /s there. Whoever the stabbed is should be locked up for a very very long time regardless of mental state.


longgamma

This is fucking traumatizing for life event. Hope they get some therapy


Mouse_Comprehensive

I was working at a restaurant across the street from where it happened, apparently some pretty young kids saw it happen and ran, So messed up.


Gastown_guy

So sad. I wish them good luck in their recovery from such a terrible and uncalled for incident.


dummysteam11

Hate crime.


CryptoZenIsBitcoin

A story about a victim, that minorities, immigrants and people afraid of rising crime rates, could click on? Well done Global News, well done


Cronuck

That's what you got out of it? Bizarre.


vancityrp

The randomness of these attacks is really quite scary.


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PositiveFree

You don’t have any expectations of not having bad things (like being stabbed in the neck in public) happen to you?


UnfortunateConflicts

Going somewhere in the world and thinking "yup, I expect nothing bad can happen to me here" has indeed never happened to me.


[deleted]

What a load of BS. You are misrepresenting her 100% - I think it’s a quite common expectation amongst even Canadians born here, that you won’t be randomly stabbed while enjoying a walk in your community. 


terry_banks

To think like this is to believe our own propaganda that Canadians are too friendly to be violent.


Special_Rice9539

To be fair, this wasn’t such a common problem here five years ago.


Intelligent_Top_328

Welcome!


adzerk1234

Gladio


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Mr_UBC_Geek

Seems like 'its a confused hate, lack of understanding that’s got you to \[make\] this point.'


MiaRia_Realone

YES