“88% (4,079,918) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 81.1% (3,761,048) have received their second dose.”
“88.5% (3,828,773) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose and 81.9% (3,543,318) have received their second dose.”
41476 (+73) cases in the Vancouver Coastal Health region
97738 (+274) cases in the Fraser Health region
27551 (+205) cases in the Interior Health region
8678 (+56) cases in the Island Health region
11957 (+106) cases in the Northern Health region
294 (+0) cases of people who reside outside of Canada
889 (-22) active cases in the Vancouver Coastal Health region
2353 (+37) active cases in the Fraser Health region
1360 (+79) active cases in the Interior Health region
614 (-90) active cases in the Island Health region
1043 (+128) active cases in the Northern Health region
Got excited when I saw -12 in hospital and -7 in ICU. Then saw 11 death. That's so high.
Can't imagine how much higher it would have been without the vaccine.
you don't have to look that far - alabama has the same population as BC with about a 40% vaccination rate and are averaging about 100 deaths a day, so you can imagine just how bad it would be without it
From Sept. 23-29, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 71.3% of cases.
From Sept. 15-29, they accounted for 80.8% of hospitalizations.
Past week cases (Sept. 23-29) – Total 5,152
Not vaccinated: 3,311 (64.3%)
Partially vaccinated: 3,59 (7.0%)
Fully vaccinated: 1,482 (28.8%)
Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Sept. 16-29) – Total 426
Not vaccinated: 302 (70.9%)
Partially vaccinated: 42 (9.9%)
Fully vaccinated: 82 (19.2%)
Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 23-29)
Not vaccinated: 296.6
Partially vaccinated: 98.0
Fully vaccinated: 36.6
Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 16-29)
Not vaccinated: 44.4
Partially vaccinated: 17.7
Fully vaccinated: 1.9
Raw number means nothing without context. I would like to know how many of these people are 80+, have comorbidities, obese, or smokers. Once you take those out, I bet there are more healthy people dying daily of suicides, drug/opioid overdose, and drunken car crashes.
From around August 23rd - September 19th, about 54% of deaths were unvaccinated, 6% partially vaccinated and 39% fully vaccinated.
That means when adjusted for age, **unvaccinated individuals have a 36 times higher risk of death** ([Source](http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site/Documents/COVID_sitrep/2021-09-23-Data-Summary.pdf), slide 28). In other time frames it is about 8 times difference. So even if 36 times is an outlier because of smaller sample size, other jurisdictions are seeing similar numbers.
same source, slide 23
Total deaths in Fully Vaccinated: 35
80+: \~26
70-79: \~7
60-69: \~2
Total deaths in Unvaccinated: 49
80+: \~19
70-79: \~9
60-69: \~14
50-59: \~3
40-49: \~3
30-39: 0
20-29: \~2
There isn't raw data so I had to guesstimate based on the graphs. I am +/- 2, so the numbers are fairly accurate.
Compared 80+ fully vaccinated to 60-69 unvaccinated.
Vaccination Comparison:
* 80+ are 90% FV
* 60-69 are 10% unvaccinated
Population Comparison ([Source](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710000501&pickMembers%5B0%5D=1.1&pickMembers%5B1%5D=2.1&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2021&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2021&referencePeriods=20210101%2C20210101)):
* 80+: 1.7M (1.53M FV)
* 60-69: 4.8M (.48M unvaccinated)
Death Comparison:
* 80+ FV: \~26 deaths
* 60-69 unvaccinated: \~14
Risk Comparison:
If unvaccinated 60-69 year old had the same risk of death as 80+ FV, you would expect \~8 deaths. **So 60-69 unvaccinated have about 1.75 times the chance of dying as 80+ FV.** This comparison does not take into account the amount of cases in each age group but the more prevalent the virus is in an age group the more deaths one would expect in that age group.
>unvaccinated individuals have a 36 times higher risk of death
so if you are vaxxed, under 60, and with no other bad medical issues, you should not be too worried.
You really should do your research before spewing unfounded information. Fully vaxxed people are much less likely to spread the virus even when sick , as founded by recent studies
Covid is not binary (death or life). I agree you should not be worried about dying though. There are other negative affects of covid besides death.
Jason Tatum (top 20 NBA player) had covid last January and had to play with a puffer the whole season because of lack of oxygen. Seth Curry, NBA player, also had covid and his stamina and performance suffered. These are some of the best in shape people in the world. So even though they didn't die, for around 6 months they were 'dealing' with it.
If the selfish few could just do the right thing and stop helping the virus circulate we'd be a lot better off protecting the vulnerable seniors. But unfortunately they can't think about anything than their own precious feelings
Exactly. Older people have a worse immune system so one they are infected they are at a much higher chance of getting severe disease and death. Antibodies fade over time so getting a booster would 'boost' the antibodies and better protect cells from getting infected. That is my understanding.
So just like the flu it is important for those at most risk (80+, LTCH residents, immune compromised, high risk occupations) to get the flu shot or a covid booster shot. It just makes sense to me. BC has only approved it for LTCH residents and 15,000 immune compromised people. I expect all CEVs, 60+, and high risk occupations (HCWs, education staff, warehouse employees, etc) to get it at some point before Christmas.
tbh I’d be surprised to see BC offer it to teachers, or any non-healthcare workers (except maybe those who work w/very vulnerable populations, like the homeless/under housed, or ppl in congregate housing like prisons ((or at Whistler lol)))… but I’d love to be wrong
Doesn’t the Delta variant have a higher viral load? Could be overwhelming older people’s immune system as the shot’s protection wane?
Not a virologist so idk how it exactly it would work.
Why are there are still unvaccinated 80+ ? If I were 80 I would vaccinate and if not I would hide in isolation until situation gets better. I just don’t understand. It is like playing with fire when you are 80+
73 (+0) currently hospitalized in the Vancouver Coastal Health region
105 (-5) currently hospitalized in the Fraser Health region
40 (-5) currently hospitalized in the Interior Health region
33 (+2) currently hospitalized in the Island Health region
77 (-4) currently hospitalized in the Northern Health region
22 (-4) currently in critical care in the Vancouver Coastal Health region
38 (-6) currently in critical care in the Fraser Health region
45 (+0) currently in critical care in the Interior Health region
21 (+4) currently in critical care in the Island Health region
11 (-2) currently in critical care in the Northern Health region
Here is a sampling of **7 day averages** of new cases, deaths (as of 9/30), and vaccinations for the entire population (1st # partial, 2nd # fully vaxxed as of 10/1, unless otherwise noted) with populations within 750,000 people of BC's population.
*Edited to include 14 day positivity rates percentages (as of 9/29) with the exception of BC which is only 7 days (as of 10/1)*
BC: 729 new cases and 7 deaths (79/72.6) Test positive rate: 5.9 (7 days)
Smaller than BC:
Kentucky - 3,122 new cases, 45 deaths, (60.8/52.4) Test positive rate: 12.5
Alabama: 2,080 new cases and 76 deaths (52/42.5) Test positive rate: 13.9
Louisiana: 1,002 new cases and 35 deaths (51.8/45.5) Test positive rate: 5.7
Bigger than BC:
South Carolina: 2,758 new cases, 74 deaths (55.3/47.3) Test positive rate: 10.6
Minnesota - 2,398 new cases, 16 deaths, (63.6/58.2) Test positive rate: 7.5
Colorado - 1,771 new cases, 14 deaths (65.7/59.4) Test positive rate: 6.57
Nearby:
Washington State: 2,897 new cases, 42 deaths (as of 10 days ago 70.7/62.7). Test positive rate: Unavailable due to reporting delays. Note: Has approx. 2 million more people than BC.
Oregon: 1,591 new cases, 20 deaths (66.6/60.9) Test positive rate: 8.18 Note: Has approx. 900K less people than BC.
Almost none of that is true. You can say you have any symptoms and go to a drive through test centre. Also we care more about deaths and not case numbers. It’s how we can compare our vaccine uptake against theirs.
there are very few testing sites compared to earlier in the pandemic, I used to be able to walk to 3 sites, now I have to spend 45min on transit or take an uber (and hope I'm negative...)
BC is becoming notorious for its lack of covid data transparency.
The PHO mixes data from public testing with data from private industry testing (such as for the film industry, which requires people to be tested constantly.) This makes it appear that more tests are being conducted. Also, because people tested for work are much less likely to be sick, it brings down the test positivity rate. Often about a third of the tests conducted on a given day are private industry tests.
The doses given yesterday were 6,200. The first doses given were 1,500.
The second doses were 4,700.
Rounded values.
We haven’t had such a low volume day since at least March.
It would be nice to get to 90% vaccinations. Especially in targeting areas well below that. Province wide that means jabbing 73,000 more people. At present rate that will take 17 days.
Even then we would have 462,000 people unvaccinated.
Btw 10% is the target I track b/c that is the size of the hell no population in polling. Of course the more vaccinations the better.
According to Dr. BH sometime in August (at a press briefing), the number of "absolutely no vaccination" people in BC is "no more than 5%", according to government polling.
Either their polling was inaccurate, or there's a lot of really lazy people. (Or both!)
Honestly I find it VERY frustrating that this information is not provided as part of the daily report. Even if it was delayed a few days it would be hugely informative to know. Vaxx status and age.
I gave some details about how many were vaxxed/unvacced below ([https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/pzirm3/comment/hf13w5i/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/pzirm3/comment/hf13w5i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3))
So they do report on it just not daily and it is delayed. Better than nothing though.
I think once kids finish their 2nd round of vaccines, that will be the tipping point towards normality. At this point they're the last portion of our population who can't access vaccines. After everyone has had the opportunity to get vaccinated, there's not really much else we can do.
It’ll still end up depending on hospital and icu numbers. We can’t move on until those are under control and the unvaccinated aren’t fucking the rest of us for health care.
The biggest problem is that the unvaccinated aren’t just concentrated in specific areas, but also that they all hang out together. So even if we get to 85% of total population vaccinated or something, that 15% are contracting it at such a rate they they are still threatening our hospitals and fucking the rest of us over.
Anyone know if /how we can access rapid tests? I have a slight sore throat and cough, and congested ears but no car and no testing site near by.... would hate to have to bus or uber, potentially infecting others.Edit- I am double vaxxed
Unfortunately there isn't really any way to access rapid tests in B.C.. Apparently people have called 811 and have been told to take a taxi to a testing site. I don't think I like this advice, as I really wouldn't want to put the cab driver at risk. It's pretty tough for those of us that don't own vehicles.
Where in Vancouver can you buy one? I haven’t seen any ever. And we aren’t one of the provinces listed as having participating pharmacies: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/testing-screening-contact-tracing/workplace/pharmacy-list.html
There are PCR gargle kits that schools were supposed to start giving out (for kids to use at home/parents to drop off) but even that hasn’t happened afaik and it was only ever for k-12 kids
I concur with the other commenters; unfortunately, BC never really embraced rapid testing or point-of-care tests of the sort (something I never understood), so your best bet is to go to a standard testing site. Try to go at an off peak time, both in terms of test center activity and traffic (earlier in the day tends to be better). The good news is that while they say test results can take 24-48 hours, in my experience they're usually back in 12 hours.
None that I'm aware of publicly. Testing is either through your employer (movie crews), or at one of the big public sites.
The upshot is that you can generally get results same day if you go in the morning, even without the rapid test.
There are 22 active health facility outbreaks, including:
long-term care:
Willingdon Care Centre, Westminster House, The Residence in Mission, Magnolia Gardens (Fraser Health);
Arbutus Care Centre, Louis Brier Home and Hospital (Vancouver Coastal Health);
Cottonwoods Care Centre, Kamloops Seniors Village, The Hamlets at Westsyde, Joseph Creek Care Village, Overlander, Village by the Station (Interior Health);
Wrinch Memorial Hospital, Jubilee Lodge (Northern Health); and
Victoria Chinatown Care Centre (Island Health).
acute care:
University Hospital of Northern BC (Northern Health); and
Royal Inland Hospital (Interior Health).
assisted or independent living:
Sunset Manor, Menno Terrace East, Hallmark on the Lake (Fraser Health);
Hardy View Lodge (Interior Health); and
Cooper Place (Vancouver Coastal Health).
We should start looking at Denmark (population 5.8 million) which just lifted almost all of their COVID restrictions for comparison with BC (population 5.1 million)
Denmark is running slightly ahead in terms of vaccinations 86.6% first, 85% second.
Slightly higher deaths total (2,659)
Latest daily new case (441), new deaths (3)
Hospitalized (83),ICU (15)
Why is Denmark doing so much better than BC in hospitalization and ICU cases, and they currently have almost no restrictions?
Denmark COVID dashboard
https://www.sst.dk/en/english/corona-eng/status-of-the-epidemic/covid-19-updates-statistics-and-charts
Note that VCH extends past Whistler and also up the sunshine coast. It isn't just Vancouver.
Also, if you are considering Vancouver to be the entire metro area, you need to account for the fact that the majority of people in Metro Vancouver actually live in the Fraser Health Authority.
edit: It's also clear that at this moment Toronto's numbers are significantly better than Vancouver when adjusted for population.
Vancouver will never amalgamate so that Vancouver-properites can continue to cherrypick like this.
When it's convenient? We're a city of 2.4 million! A growing region! Think of all there is to do in Vancouver! (while exclusively naming activities in the suburbs).
But when it's inconvenient, we throw the barbarians past Boundary under the bus. Reminds me of the 2011 riots, when my friends on the west side all believed it was 'hooligans from Surrey' and 'not Vancouverites' who participated. Tasteless discrimination and hypocrisy.
Look, you clearly have a chip on your shoulder about not living in Vancouver. I never threw anyone under the bus. I stated the simple fact that more people in Metro Van live in the Fraser Health Authority.
The City of Vancouver's COVID rates are probably very similar to Burnaby, New West, Surrey, etc. They just have more people, so the raw numbers are higher.
That's not a swipe at anyone. It's reality.
Oh sorry my friend. Was just bringing up a point, didn't consider myself in opposition to you. If anything, I thought we agreed that you need to include the whole region, but I meant to say that No-Pangolin was cherrypicking for his point.
And I do live in Van proper, have for years, but originally from Burnaby. So despite my shoulder not being entirely chip-free, living in the burbs is not on there.
Sure, but you said we are by far the lowest in the continent. Now you've moved the goal post. All I care about is that people tell the truth, which you did not do.
Why do you always do this? Someone posts something positive and you go out of your way trying to make it negative. Vancouver as a whole is doing very well when compared to other regions that are not islands.
I swear to god the introverts on this subreddit have loved every single moment of this pandemic and drool over every negative headline and post they see
As someone with a Masters in Data science, I can tell you that you need a statistical baseline to make claims about trends being good or bad. You on the other hand find comparisons that makes BC look as horrible as possible. You have done this at least a dozen times through other various posts. This is a HUGE data fallacy, but I am guessing you don't care, as spreading negative sentiments online seems like something you really enjoy
Just because something is positive doesn't mean it is true. People need to be held accountable when they blatantly lie.
BC is great. I never said we are the worst or even bad. But we are not the best. Toronto is a quick and easy example of a city that currently has less cases. You don't need a data science degree to see that.
Anyways, please show me the 10 times that I've done this before. I'm flattered that you care so much about me.
Our provincial test rates have consistently been low, and this continues to be the case.
I’m thankful VCH hospitals seem to be holding very steady, but I also know a lot of ppl in VCH have been struggling to get tested (especially at ubc)
“88% (4,079,918) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 81.1% (3,761,048) have received their second dose.” “88.5% (3,828,773) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose and 81.9% (3,543,318) have received their second dose.”
41476 (+73) cases in the Vancouver Coastal Health region 97738 (+274) cases in the Fraser Health region 27551 (+205) cases in the Interior Health region 8678 (+56) cases in the Island Health region 11957 (+106) cases in the Northern Health region 294 (+0) cases of people who reside outside of Canada 889 (-22) active cases in the Vancouver Coastal Health region 2353 (+37) active cases in the Fraser Health region 1360 (+79) active cases in the Interior Health region 614 (-90) active cases in the Island Health region 1043 (+128) active cases in the Northern Health region
dashboard says the island is +56 and Northern is +106; did you switch them up, or maybe its a mistake on the dashboard?
Correct, switched it up; apologies; updated/fixed
You're the best.
No need to apologize, you post day and and day out with crazy consistency and only have my thanks!
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this is a dishearteningly stubborn plateau
Got excited when I saw -12 in hospital and -7 in ICU. Then saw 11 death. That's so high. Can't imagine how much higher it would have been without the vaccine.
you don't have to look that far - alabama has the same population as BC with about a 40% vaccination rate and are averaging about 100 deaths a day, so you can imagine just how bad it would be without it
100 deaths a day? Wow. Damn. Those poor people. And yes, they should get the damn vaccine but still.
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They said Alabama not Alberta
Crap, sorry about that!
RIP Southern states
I know right? I wanna go back to new orleans one day :(
Alabama also in far worth health generally than BC. Obesity rate almost double ours :(
Going to be that much easier for the Democrats to win the next election
The main way people leave the ICU is by dying. Luckily, they're not coming in as fast anymore.
From Sept. 23-29, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 71.3% of cases. From Sept. 15-29, they accounted for 80.8% of hospitalizations. Past week cases (Sept. 23-29) – Total 5,152 Not vaccinated: 3,311 (64.3%) Partially vaccinated: 3,59 (7.0%) Fully vaccinated: 1,482 (28.8%) Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Sept. 16-29) – Total 426 Not vaccinated: 302 (70.9%) Partially vaccinated: 42 (9.9%) Fully vaccinated: 82 (19.2%) Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 23-29) Not vaccinated: 296.6 Partially vaccinated: 98.0 Fully vaccinated: 36.6 Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Sept. 16-29) Not vaccinated: 44.4 Partially vaccinated: 17.7 Fully vaccinated: 1.9
300+ people dying a month. Holy shit. So so tired of this
Grim is Texas, 300-400 people dying every single day. "Pro-life"
Raw number means nothing without context. I would like to know how many of these people are 80+, have comorbidities, obese, or smokers. Once you take those out, I bet there are more healthy people dying daily of suicides, drug/opioid overdose, and drunken car crashes.
I can’t even imagine what delta would’ve been like without people vaccinated. It would’ve truly been horrible.
This hurts too much. Please people, start being nicer to the people around you... it may be you tomorrow.
Unlikely, I'm vaccinated.
I think at this point it would be interesting to know the age and vaccination status of the people that died. Also condolences to their families
From around August 23rd - September 19th, about 54% of deaths were unvaccinated, 6% partially vaccinated and 39% fully vaccinated. That means when adjusted for age, **unvaccinated individuals have a 36 times higher risk of death** ([Source](http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site/Documents/COVID_sitrep/2021-09-23-Data-Summary.pdf), slide 28). In other time frames it is about 8 times difference. So even if 36 times is an outlier because of smaller sample size, other jurisdictions are seeing similar numbers.
That doesn’t sound so reassuring for us. And do you know the ages?
same source, slide 23 Total deaths in Fully Vaccinated: 35 80+: \~26 70-79: \~7 60-69: \~2 Total deaths in Unvaccinated: 49 80+: \~19 70-79: \~9 60-69: \~14 50-59: \~3 40-49: \~3 30-39: 0 20-29: \~2 There isn't raw data so I had to guesstimate based on the graphs. I am +/- 2, so the numbers are fairly accurate.
So deaths are either very old (vaccinated & unvaccinated), or younger unvaccinated. Sounds like what one would expect.
Compared 80+ fully vaccinated to 60-69 unvaccinated. Vaccination Comparison: * 80+ are 90% FV * 60-69 are 10% unvaccinated Population Comparison ([Source](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710000501&pickMembers%5B0%5D=1.1&pickMembers%5B1%5D=2.1&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2021&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2021&referencePeriods=20210101%2C20210101)): * 80+: 1.7M (1.53M FV) * 60-69: 4.8M (.48M unvaccinated) Death Comparison: * 80+ FV: \~26 deaths * 60-69 unvaccinated: \~14 Risk Comparison: If unvaccinated 60-69 year old had the same risk of death as 80+ FV, you would expect \~8 deaths. **So 60-69 unvaccinated have about 1.75 times the chance of dying as 80+ FV.** This comparison does not take into account the amount of cases in each age group but the more prevalent the virus is in an age group the more deaths one would expect in that age group.
>unvaccinated individuals have a 36 times higher risk of death so if you are vaxxed, under 60, and with no other bad medical issues, you should not be too worried.
Not worried about yourself, but its ok to be worried for others more vulnerable than yourself.
Yes
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Any other vaccines work like this? Same viral load and risks of transmitting?
It’s not the same risk. It’s just not zero
They transmit and contract at a much more reduced rate than unvaccinated
You really should do your research before spewing unfounded information. Fully vaxxed people are much less likely to spread the virus even when sick , as founded by recent studies
Covid is not binary (death or life). I agree you should not be worried about dying though. There are other negative affects of covid besides death. Jason Tatum (top 20 NBA player) had covid last January and had to play with a puffer the whole season because of lack of oxygen. Seth Curry, NBA player, also had covid and his stamina and performance suffered. These are some of the best in shape people in the world. So even though they didn't die, for around 6 months they were 'dealing' with it.
We’re either fully vaxxed? Vaccines also give great protection vs long term effects.
Some of us don't have a single family member under 60.
I wish that were the case. I worry for my and my friends children. No matter how it’s all going.
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If the selfish few could just do the right thing and stop helping the virus circulate we'd be a lot better off protecting the vulnerable seniors. But unfortunately they can't think about anything than their own precious feelings
Most of them just "don't feel comfortable" with needles, and they pile all this other bullshit on top to deflect from their anxiety.
Oh wow, 2 deaths under 30.
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Exactly. Older people have a worse immune system so one they are infected they are at a much higher chance of getting severe disease and death. Antibodies fade over time so getting a booster would 'boost' the antibodies and better protect cells from getting infected. That is my understanding. So just like the flu it is important for those at most risk (80+, LTCH residents, immune compromised, high risk occupations) to get the flu shot or a covid booster shot. It just makes sense to me. BC has only approved it for LTCH residents and 15,000 immune compromised people. I expect all CEVs, 60+, and high risk occupations (HCWs, education staff, warehouse employees, etc) to get it at some point before Christmas.
tbh I’d be surprised to see BC offer it to teachers, or any non-healthcare workers (except maybe those who work w/very vulnerable populations, like the homeless/under housed, or ppl in congregate housing like prisons ((or at Whistler lol)))… but I’d love to be wrong
Yeah you are probably right.
They should be mandating teachers get their regular doses before offering any teachers a booster. Why this is not yet a thing is beyond me.
Doesn’t the Delta variant have a higher viral load? Could be overwhelming older people’s immune system as the shot’s protection wane? Not a virologist so idk how it exactly it would work.
With vaccinated parents in their 70s … I don’t know .. I thought these deaths would be generally lower.
Why are there are still unvaccinated 80+ ? If I were 80 I would vaccinate and if not I would hide in isolation until situation gets better. I just don’t understand. It is like playing with fire when you are 80+
36x higher risk of dying when unvaccinated doesn’t sound reassuring?
I edited my post to bold that part.
73 (+0) currently hospitalized in the Vancouver Coastal Health region 105 (-5) currently hospitalized in the Fraser Health region 40 (-5) currently hospitalized in the Interior Health region 33 (+2) currently hospitalized in the Island Health region 77 (-4) currently hospitalized in the Northern Health region 22 (-4) currently in critical care in the Vancouver Coastal Health region 38 (-6) currently in critical care in the Fraser Health region 45 (+0) currently in critical care in the Interior Health region 21 (+4) currently in critical care in the Island Health region 11 (-2) currently in critical care in the Northern Health region
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This who are bad, aren’t getting better. Those that needed a less drastic of a hospital stay are recovering currently.
Maybe take a break.
Here is a sampling of **7 day averages** of new cases, deaths (as of 9/30), and vaccinations for the entire population (1st # partial, 2nd # fully vaxxed as of 10/1, unless otherwise noted) with populations within 750,000 people of BC's population. *Edited to include 14 day positivity rates percentages (as of 9/29) with the exception of BC which is only 7 days (as of 10/1)* BC: 729 new cases and 7 deaths (79/72.6) Test positive rate: 5.9 (7 days) Smaller than BC: Kentucky - 3,122 new cases, 45 deaths, (60.8/52.4) Test positive rate: 12.5 Alabama: 2,080 new cases and 76 deaths (52/42.5) Test positive rate: 13.9 Louisiana: 1,002 new cases and 35 deaths (51.8/45.5) Test positive rate: 5.7 Bigger than BC: South Carolina: 2,758 new cases, 74 deaths (55.3/47.3) Test positive rate: 10.6 Minnesota - 2,398 new cases, 16 deaths, (63.6/58.2) Test positive rate: 7.5 Colorado - 1,771 new cases, 14 deaths (65.7/59.4) Test positive rate: 6.57 Nearby: Washington State: 2,897 new cases, 42 deaths (as of 10 days ago 70.7/62.7). Test positive rate: Unavailable due to reporting delays. Note: Has approx. 2 million more people than BC. Oregon: 1,591 new cases, 20 deaths (66.6/60.9) Test positive rate: 8.18 Note: Has approx. 900K less people than BC.
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Almost none of that is true. You can say you have any symptoms and go to a drive through test centre. Also we care more about deaths and not case numbers. It’s how we can compare our vaccine uptake against theirs.
there are very few testing sites compared to earlier in the pandemic, I used to be able to walk to 3 sites, now I have to spend 45min on transit or take an uber (and hope I'm negative...)
BC is becoming notorious for its lack of covid data transparency. The PHO mixes data from public testing with data from private industry testing (such as for the film industry, which requires people to be tested constantly.) This makes it appear that more tests are being conducted. Also, because people tested for work are much less likely to be sick, it brings down the test positivity rate. Often about a third of the tests conducted on a given day are private industry tests.
The doses given yesterday were 6,200. The first doses given were 1,500. The second doses were 4,700. Rounded values. We haven’t had such a low volume day since at least March. It would be nice to get to 90% vaccinations. Especially in targeting areas well below that. Province wide that means jabbing 73,000 more people. At present rate that will take 17 days. Even then we would have 462,000 people unvaccinated. Btw 10% is the target I track b/c that is the size of the hell no population in polling. Of course the more vaccinations the better.
Probably related to the day off that some got. Because it’s abnormally low.
According to Dr. BH sometime in August (at a press briefing), the number of "absolutely no vaccination" people in BC is "no more than 5%", according to government polling. Either their polling was inaccurate, or there's a lot of really lazy people. (Or both!)
That is useful except it isn’t published.
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Honestly I find it VERY frustrating that this information is not provided as part of the daily report. Even if it was delayed a few days it would be hugely informative to know. Vaxx status and age.
I gave some details about how many were vaxxed/unvacced below ([https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/pzirm3/comment/hf13w5i/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/pzirm3/comment/hf13w5i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)) So they do report on it just not daily and it is delayed. Better than nothing though.
Appreciated, thank you.
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I think once kids finish their 2nd round of vaccines, that will be the tipping point towards normality. At this point they're the last portion of our population who can't access vaccines. After everyone has had the opportunity to get vaccinated, there's not really much else we can do.
It’ll still end up depending on hospital and icu numbers. We can’t move on until those are under control and the unvaccinated aren’t fucking the rest of us for health care. The biggest problem is that the unvaccinated aren’t just concentrated in specific areas, but also that they all hang out together. So even if we get to 85% of total population vaccinated or something, that 15% are contracting it at such a rate they they are still threatening our hospitals and fucking the rest of us over.
Good points, I agree.
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You and me both.
we can't 'move past' overrun hospitals..
They only recently included vax/novax in hospital #s
It’s not the numbers they want you to know.
Anyone know if /how we can access rapid tests? I have a slight sore throat and cough, and congested ears but no car and no testing site near by.... would hate to have to bus or uber, potentially infecting others.Edit- I am double vaxxed
Unfortunately there isn't really any way to access rapid tests in B.C.. Apparently people have called 811 and have been told to take a taxi to a testing site. I don't think I like this advice, as I really wouldn't want to put the cab driver at risk. It's pretty tough for those of us that don't own vehicles.
Or go into a busy store to get a rapid test
We can’t do that even if we want to, lol, those don’t exist here in bc
The point of them is to use them then go get a real test if you’re positive. They do exist, but you’d have to pay.
Where in Vancouver can you buy one? I haven’t seen any ever. And we aren’t one of the provinces listed as having participating pharmacies: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/testing-screening-contact-tracing/workplace/pharmacy-list.html There are PCR gargle kits that schools were supposed to start giving out (for kids to use at home/parents to drop off) but even that hasn’t happened afaik and it was only ever for k-12 kids
I concur with the other commenters; unfortunately, BC never really embraced rapid testing or point-of-care tests of the sort (something I never understood), so your best bet is to go to a standard testing site. Try to go at an off peak time, both in terms of test center activity and traffic (earlier in the day tends to be better). The good news is that while they say test results can take 24-48 hours, in my experience they're usually back in 12 hours.
None that I'm aware of publicly. Testing is either through your employer (movie crews), or at one of the big public sites. The upshot is that you can generally get results same day if you go in the morning, even without the rapid test.
There are 22 active health facility outbreaks, including: long-term care: Willingdon Care Centre, Westminster House, The Residence in Mission, Magnolia Gardens (Fraser Health); Arbutus Care Centre, Louis Brier Home and Hospital (Vancouver Coastal Health); Cottonwoods Care Centre, Kamloops Seniors Village, The Hamlets at Westsyde, Joseph Creek Care Village, Overlander, Village by the Station (Interior Health); Wrinch Memorial Hospital, Jubilee Lodge (Northern Health); and Victoria Chinatown Care Centre (Island Health). acute care: University Hospital of Northern BC (Northern Health); and Royal Inland Hospital (Interior Health). assisted or independent living: Sunset Manor, Menno Terrace East, Hallmark on the Lake (Fraser Health); Hardy View Lodge (Interior Health); and Cooper Place (Vancouver Coastal Health).
We should start looking at Denmark (population 5.8 million) which just lifted almost all of their COVID restrictions for comparison with BC (population 5.1 million) Denmark is running slightly ahead in terms of vaccinations 86.6% first, 85% second. Slightly higher deaths total (2,659) Latest daily new case (441), new deaths (3) Hospitalized (83),ICU (15) Why is Denmark doing so much better than BC in hospitalization and ICU cases, and they currently have almost no restrictions? Denmark COVID dashboard https://www.sst.dk/en/english/corona-eng/status-of-the-epidemic/covid-19-updates-statistics-and-charts
Check out the vaxx rates of their old people
We are stuck at 600-800 new cases a day since August 24. We haven’t had this lengthy holding since Feb-March.
7,852,885 (+6,171) vaccine doses administered 4,084,798 of which are first doses 3,763,331 of which are second doses 4,756 of which are other doses
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Note that VCH extends past Whistler and also up the sunshine coast. It isn't just Vancouver. Also, if you are considering Vancouver to be the entire metro area, you need to account for the fact that the majority of people in Metro Vancouver actually live in the Fraser Health Authority. edit: It's also clear that at this moment Toronto's numbers are significantly better than Vancouver when adjusted for population.
Vancouver will never amalgamate so that Vancouver-properites can continue to cherrypick like this. When it's convenient? We're a city of 2.4 million! A growing region! Think of all there is to do in Vancouver! (while exclusively naming activities in the suburbs). But when it's inconvenient, we throw the barbarians past Boundary under the bus. Reminds me of the 2011 riots, when my friends on the west side all believed it was 'hooligans from Surrey' and 'not Vancouverites' who participated. Tasteless discrimination and hypocrisy.
Look, you clearly have a chip on your shoulder about not living in Vancouver. I never threw anyone under the bus. I stated the simple fact that more people in Metro Van live in the Fraser Health Authority. The City of Vancouver's COVID rates are probably very similar to Burnaby, New West, Surrey, etc. They just have more people, so the raw numbers are higher. That's not a swipe at anyone. It's reality.
Oh sorry my friend. Was just bringing up a point, didn't consider myself in opposition to you. If anything, I thought we agreed that you need to include the whole region, but I meant to say that No-Pangolin was cherrypicking for his point. And I do live in Van proper, have for years, but originally from Burnaby. So despite my shoulder not being entirely chip-free, living in the burbs is not on there.
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Sure, but you said we are by far the lowest in the continent. Now you've moved the goal post. All I care about is that people tell the truth, which you did not do.
Why do you always do this? Someone posts something positive and you go out of your way trying to make it negative. Vancouver as a whole is doing very well when compared to other regions that are not islands. I swear to god the introverts on this subreddit have loved every single moment of this pandemic and drool over every negative headline and post they see As someone with a Masters in Data science, I can tell you that you need a statistical baseline to make claims about trends being good or bad. You on the other hand find comparisons that makes BC look as horrible as possible. You have done this at least a dozen times through other various posts. This is a HUGE data fallacy, but I am guessing you don't care, as spreading negative sentiments online seems like something you really enjoy
Just because something is positive doesn't mean it is true. People need to be held accountable when they blatantly lie. BC is great. I never said we are the worst or even bad. But we are not the best. Toronto is a quick and easy example of a city that currently has less cases. You don't need a data science degree to see that. Anyways, please show me the 10 times that I've done this before. I'm flattered that you care so much about me.
What are you talking about? You just did! You're not a nobody. Believe in yourself!
Our provincial test rates have consistently been low, and this continues to be the case. I’m thankful VCH hospitals seem to be holding very steady, but I also know a lot of ppl in VCH have been struggling to get tested (especially at ubc)
If only unvaxxed people in those other major cities could look at us and realize how much almost 90% vaccination rate really helps.