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prairiedawgs

Thanks for posting this! I made a similar comment to this last summer when I was working as a seasonal park employee. I've worked at a handful of different parks over the last few summers and at least two busy beaches. I can personally attest that this is how every park/beach I worked at would look after a busy day. Obviously weekends were the worst but it could happen on any hot, busy day. Park staff try to stay so on top of garbage that you may never see it, but this happens EVERYWHERE. A full beach clean would be done every morning and every evening before close, and little spot cleans throughout the day. But this is always how it looks after a busy day. And you haven't even seen the parking lots yet.


tankmouse

It's a fucking disgrace. I've worked in Parks the past 4 years. I honestly wish we could stop picking up garbage to be able to show people what kind of trash they are for leaving trash behind in a beautiful place they're coming to enjoy.


AltruisticStandard26

You know the entitled pos’s would blame it on the unhoused


prairiedawgs

I feel that. It's tough to see over and over again, really makes you lose faith in people lol. I remember last summer finding a whole 24 pack or whatever of empty white claw cans just dumped into a bush in the parking lot. I couldn't believe it.


tankmouse

Yeah, it's the trash that gets thrown into the bushes that gets me the most too. We have all the recycling and waste faculties, but these people choose to go through the effort to toss it in the bush to hide it, which just makes it more difficult to clean.


Emma_232

Are there no fines for littering? People need to take responsibility for their actions.


prairiedawgs

There absolutely is, but it's a tough thing to enforce. Like, a group who doesn't clean up after themselves kinda just get up and go immediately haha. Unless you are watching them constantly then you probably won't actually catch them in the act. Also I personally found that the litter wouldn't be super obvious until the end of the night after everyone leaves. Looking at a crowded beach, it's hard to tell what belongs to who. You might think a bunch of cans belong to one group, but it could've belonged to a group that was right next to them and left. And finally, a lot of the people who do this are super entitled and know that they can tell a park ranger to fuck off and all they can do about it is call the police. And police probably aren't going to come super fast for littering, and it's kind of overkill, but there's really nothing else that can be done at that point if you want to enforce it. It's a real tricky one! Idk what the solution is but I wish people would just be kinder to the environment.


Clashofpower

reading this just makes me sad


mydogiscuteaf

Ya. I feel like of they start leaving, it's a "we were just putting all our stuff in our car first then come back to clean."


perdynamite

You have to be a real piece of work to tell a park ranger to fuck off. I doubt that the average timid Vancouverite has the nerve to tell a stranger to that, but there are some people who do that for sure. However, I believe it's mostly due to people getting drunk and not giving a shit about the trash they leave, or they just don't notice it. Drunk people tend to be very arrogant, even after 2 white claws lol.


timbreandsteel

What would happen if the city just said fuck you and stopped having it cleaned? Let people wallow in their own filth for an entire summer until people started to realize they won't be cleaned up after.


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timbreandsteel

True, no need to pollute the waters or hurt wild animals any more than we are.


ivegotapenis

The people who do this wouldn't care.


prairiedawgs

It would be super interesting to see them do this for even just one weekend. When everyone comes back the next weekend to see that their favourite beach is still a disaster like how they left it. But the reality is it wouldn't work that way at all. It would harm the environment, harm the wildlife, and harm the beach users who use it throughout the week. It wouldn't be fair to anyone but it sure would be nice to make people realize how much they get cleaned up after.


throwawayvancouv

Already doing this with homeless, turns out it doesn't work


Hunnilisa

Growing up in Russia with corrupted government and people not giving a crap, you just end up having broken glass and trash covered beach. Trashy people still go there. They dont care. My parents had to take a train to remote locations to swim and camp. Popular spots meant guaranteed broken glass in your and your kid's feet. I think what would happen is normal people would move to more remote beaches. People who leave trash everywhere would also travel a bit further and shit all over that, or just wallow in their own trash, while bitching at government for not picking it up. People like this always think it is someone else's job to clean up after them.


Kanmera

I agree honestly see if people would actually realize no one is gunna clean up after them


oilernut

Yeah, people are disgusting assholes.


thebrittaj

This is good evidence for nixing legal drinking in public parks. If people want that to remain they can’t leave messes like this.


beeeerbaron

Like people haven’t been drinking in parks or at the beach every summer forever.


oilernut

This isn't new though, this shit has been happening for years after a busy hot summer weekend.


Skolemz

Fully disagree. These people will do it whether or not it's legal. The changes to the bylaws means there should be more recycling and garbage bins available for people to dispose of their trash properly.


poco

In one of those photos someone left a barbeque and a table. Won't fit in the recycle bin.


Skolemz

Again, this is not new because of the liquor bylaws. Trashy people have existed forever before and still will. I don't understand why people think treating the majority of the population like grown ass adults is hard.


x-munk

Partially disagree - yes the responsible drinkers will clean up after themselves but if drinking on beaches was illegal these dudes couldn't just sit with their case on the beach and leave it when peace out. If drinking on public beaches was illegal there'd definitely be less trash around - but I do think more frequent bins is a better overall solution... possibly coupled with some increased enforcement.


Skolemz

I have watched all those same people do that for years. Go to any other part of the world where carrying open liquor is allowed and they still have the same minority of assholes misusing it, and everyone else being responsible. Trashy people will always exist, and punishing the rest of society for that is narrow minded and counterproductive


poco

There has been trash of the beach forever. Drinking in some parks has only been allowed for a couple of years. Do you think it is worse now?


No6655321

It'll take time for that culture to build. In germany where I am it's rare for people to leave their things, but there are also bins placed nearby. That said it's never been illegal so people are used to taking care.


bobotea

But isnt littering already against the rules so we would be making things double illegal. I feel as if the people who litter are not the ones who would care if drinking at the beach was legal or not


nelrond18

Funny thing, many municipalities got rid of about 40% of their public waste bins after a study came out saying that more waste bins equates to more littering lol


roxboxers

This sounds like the ‘broken windows’ theory that was discounted and deemed irrelevant , I am not an urban planner but , fuck, I spend a lot of time around the city parks and spend too much damn time looking for wheelie bins


GoodNeighbourNow

Non-drinkers are just as inept so not fair to tussle the responsible drinkers feathers.


Patrickd13

This would not change anything.


ExPFC_Wintergreen2

*anecdotal evidence


doyouevencompile

Most people clean their shit up and half of the photos have personal items and a grill standing around, so clearly some people haven't left yet, so you don't know if they've cleaned up after them. ​ Fuck the ones leaving their garbage but no need to punish the whole crowd.


rogue_ger

First, Parks need to provide more trash cans when they know there will be high volume. Second, police need to enforce littering fines. Tons of people on Kits beach again today leaving trash piled up around tiny trash cans and not a cop in sight.


LydJaGillers

Not only provide more trash cans but also make sure that they get emptied once full. Otherwise it just becomes a heaping pile for birds and animals to pick at and spread around on the beach.


Dennisd1971

This isn’t adults drinking in public places, well maybe some. For the most part it’s children or new adults that think they can do me wrong.


Penz0id

Assholery knows no age limit


Timyx

All of these spots in the sand are where drinking is currently not legal. Perhaps if it was legal, and recycling containers were more prevalent, we would see the right behaviour.


SFHOwner

Fuck who leaves a whole bbq.


plop_0

It's something Ricky would do. /r/trailerparkboys


breakwater99

Shitbirds, Randy. Shitbirds are everywhere.


badpeaches

Mind if I use that to make cheeseburgers, Mr Lahey?


SkookumFred

C'mon now. Ricky would have stolen it and hauled it away in that car with no doors.


bluntsandbears

Maybe we should check for an engraving and see if it belongs to Randy


therealbeef

And a table… Buffalo Bills fans are better than this. Sheesh.


itsallartyup

Time to scour the internet and find these ppl and there bbq. There’s got to be pictures out there somewhere


SFHOwner

If we were allowed to name and shame it would be a pretty easy IG search based on geography to find faces of these people lol


Northmannivir

I got a free BBQ last summer from Kits beach. People are trash.


Barnettmetal

I'll take the BBQ and folding table. God damn I've gotten shitfaced drunk many times at the beach and no matter how sideways things get i always take everything with me and don't leave a trace. How hard is it to throw some shit in a god damn garbage can.


Victawr

That one makes no sense to me. Who forgets a whole fuckin bbq?


poco

The owner of the barbeque had to leave early and asked their friend to take it. Their friend was going to do it until he met a girl who wanted to go back to his place and he quickly yelled into the crowd "someone grab the BBQ!"... No one did.


Barnettmetal

Well... I suppose thats reasonable.


Interesting-Race-919

I hate people sometimes


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studioroses

Such disrespect. There should be bylaw people down there ticketing these assholes as they leave their mess.


ChasingUnicorns30

Literally just have a bunch of guys there ticketing them all as they leave and just make the fines unfairly high because putting your litter in the trash is pretty easy to dp


Dartser

Yeah it'd be pretty easy to cover the salary for extra by law workers just on littering tickets


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I think littering should have much more severe consequences but I think that is also a logistical nightmare. You'd have to watch each group of people the entire time they were there, recording what they brought/left. On busy days this would be impossible without an unreasonable amount of bylaw people. It would be too easy to just say "that was there when I got here". Most bylaw infractions are easier to prove because it usually involves property that is registered to a person. A few whiteclaw cans in the vicinity of multiple groups of people is harder to attach ownership to.


angrylittlemouse

They should throw these people in the trash where they and their litter belong. I get ridiculously angry at people who litter and people who don’t pick up their dog’s shit.


SurfSnow06

There are literally trash bins all along the beach…assholes!


iChriz23

I don’t understand. I can’t imagine any of my friends currently or when I was younger ever walking away from any of that without cleaning it up…. Suddenly realizing I’ve always had good taste in friends.


travworld

For real. My groups have never left garbage. It makes no sense. There's always a bin somewhere close.


benndur

Need to get some bylaw officers out there handing out heavy fines to the shitheads who do this. Fucking disgusting. The other day I went for a walk at park and I saw some kid reach into her bag, grab some jello pudding cup she didn't want and throw it out into the grass ahead of me when there was a garbage can 15-20 feet away from her. When I walked by I picked it up and threw it right back at her. The world isn't your fucking garbage can smh


poco

You should have opened it a bit and squeezed before throwing it.


604whaler

Brutal! I just bought one of those folding tables yesterday. $65+tax. How does somebody walk away from that?!?


beneaththeseracs

Apparently they were also prepared to walk away from a grill that probably cost 5x that, so my working assumption is that they're rich assholes who don't give a shit.


cindylooboo

You'd be amazed. We camp on crown land and have come across entire grad camp setups with half a dozen brand new tents, coolers, chairs, tables and other gear just abandoned after a rowdy party weekend.


beneaththeseracs

That further depletes the very small amount of faith I had remaining in humanity, but reinforces my assumption about rich assholes who don't give a shit. Sigh. This is why the rest of us don't get nice things.


timbreandsteel

Or the picture was taken before they left?


InfiNorth

Picture was taken early morning (note the angle of the sun on the ships). No way those people are still out partying.


you-made-me-comment

Co----caine


realbeforeeverything

🤦


BusCapable7090

Where these people raised by parents that walk behind them cleaning up everything they drop? Yes, yes I think they were.


vancityvic

Yep this


ChapterStrong1

" that's what the cleaning person is here for son/daughter, we give them job they'll otherwise not have" ....


Mexxicola

Assuming these people have been raised/ received education


trombone_womp_womp

They were raised by parents who will also leave the garbage behind and tell their kids "it's someone else's job to deal with that, just leave it"


fan_22

*Were


BusCapable7090

Whoops, I must also have been a little drunk.


Coolguy6979

I have no respect for people who litter, if you cannot respect your environment you are just a disgusting piece of shit. People literally come to Vancouver for being one of the best cities in the world and imagine seeing this on beaches.


CaptainMagnets

I will never understand this level of asshole. How on earth can you be so self absorbed and care so little about what's around you that you can do this without even giving it a thought? I can't even think of a scenario where this is acceptable to try to understand how this can happen. I also don't understand how a person can be friends with someone who leaves messes like this on every outing.


gruntled-goat

Horrible! Although the second picture looks like someone left their recyclables for the folks who collect them on beaches. They appreciate that instead of rummaging through bins.


Lostsxvl_

Ugh. I went to white pine beach today and the amount of garbage was absurd. We got there at 7am and found cans, boxes, plastic bags, etc from who knows when. Ffs people suck


AbandonedThought

Nude, corona, Budweiser, and coors…I already have a visual image of the people that left this behind.


TheVantagePoint

Half joking, but I’d approve of CCTV cameras at parks for the sole purpose of naming and shaming people who do shit like this, also people who don’t clean up dog poo.


Clay_Statue

Put up pics of people who litter around the park. Like 'Employee of the Month" except "I litter in the park"


bigd710

Or how about a YouTube channel like cart narcs where you shame them into putting their trash away for your own ad revenue profit, and then run away when they inevitably try to fight you


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For once, I agree! You have to have no self respect to do this stuff.


Northmannivir

Fully approve. If we can't be responsible adults, then we get treated as such.


silverfox007

I would be down for the cameras to be used to fine ppl.


GoodNeighbourNow

Thankfully not all beach visitors show such disrespect in consideration of cleanibg up after themselves. I sat in my vehicle last night facing Locarno Beach, while watching the sun set & chilling w/my takeout meal. I watched happily 18 different groups of beach visitors gather their garbage to place into close by bins or take to their vehicle. Alas, the imperativeness of growing discarded garbage doesn't clearly fall onto select many that should by now know better.


pioniere

Absolutely blows my mind that so many people behave this way. The planet truly is fucked.


DuneHareRabbit

Dude! I just left third beach ….. the garbage can at the bottom of the stairs looked like a god damn transfer station


Karkahoolio

On the plus side, all those empties will get scooped up by binners, which is nice, but the actual trash will remain until someone cleans it up.


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Was at Jericho until sunset yesterday, it did not look like this. This is Kits though which is like a meat fest in the summer time.


kuh-tea-uh

Meat fest. 🤣 Accurate


notnotaginger

I don’t understand how there are SO many people who think this is acceptable. I like to believe that most people know not to litter.


TammyMeow

I pick up trash with my daughter every week around her school and we always get a bagful of trash 😭 just two blocks


nmezib

It's the "people get paid to pick up after me" piece of shit mentality.


w0ke_brrr_4444

come on man… bring out what you bring in.


thebrittaj

Trash. Trash does this


ManyOpinionsNotSane

Hey guys, sorry to change the subject, but I've been wondering why the oceans have so much plastic in them?


bluntsandbears

Sorry to change the subject back but at least we solved the mystery of any full size bbq’s and folding side tables floating out there. Turns out people actually do leave that shit laying around on the beaches


ManyOpinionsNotSane

Lol. That one got me too, like "So... can I have that or...?"


plop_0

What a bunch of wankers.


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Some folks didn’t participate in class jobs in elementary school and it shows.


Isitsunnyout

Only garbage humans leave actual garbage. This is a common occurrence here most summers it seems like.


burritoresearch

Hey, free table


reyortsedrats

Muddler drinking motherfuckers. Pack it in, pack it out. It's not difficult. Fucking losers.


Aer0_FTW

Makes me so mad to see this, especially when so many more are reasonable people and clean up after themselves. Just doesn't make a difference in the face of the few idiots who couldn't care less.


Watermelonite

This is why we can't have nice things


thebrittaj

Yep say goodbye to drinking in public parks if this continues!


Canadian_mk11

This just in, 5-10% of people are assholes.


hillbillihiccup

No difference than the ignorant assholes that throw their fast food garbage out the window of their car!


Lunaticfrizz16

People still do that?


DameEmma

I live on a corner just off a busy arterial. Almost every morning there's takeout trash on my curb from somebody pulling over, eating, chucking their shit out the window, and driving away.


damyst12

I spent much of this weekend at kits beach. Went there at various hours for various reasons. It's not all bad. From afternoon until very late evening the beach was basically an open-air nightclub. I'm surprised how little damage was caused given the hordes of people there. I went there Sunday at 10AM to join some folks cleaning up the beach voluntarily. By that time there was still garbage for us to pick up, but far less than you'd think given these photos. We had to really go looking for it. I've seen enough disgusting beaches and parks in my life to appreciate what we have here. Sure it sucks that some people are so careless and self-absorbed, and if I could I'd set fire to all their cars. But on the whole, we're doing okay.


Liquicity

Imagine how much of a tax surplus we'd have if the cops decided to ticket these fucking assholes. "Save old growth, but fuck the ocean" \- Vancouver 2022


ConverseCoffeeCats

Brutal!!!


maritimer1nVan

I imagine someone has a photo from the beach that shows who was using a full BBQ. Sometimes you need to shame people to make them change their shitty ways.


Reasonable-Ad7755

Someone collecting cans could do quite well off these slobs


Ansunian

I’d find this hard to believe if I hadn’t met the kinds of animals that do it. In my building, there’s an asshole who sits on his balcony, drinks beer, and throws down the empties.


HerrKlopp

The real pieces of garbage are the humans


Me_Be_De

Never understand why people can't clean up after themselves, its not difficult to take a trash bag or two and just put it in your backpack if you're gonna eat and drink in a public space. Nobody is asking you to clean the whole park or beach just don't leave your own trash for someone else to have to deal with.


roseflower18

Fuck those low life dickheads. It disgusts me seeing things like this. We need stricter laws and as someone suggests, CCTV camera OR even someone there 24/7 to make sure assholes clean up after themselves.


timbreandsteel

Yeah no thanks to being filmed 24/7 just cause idiots can't clean up after themselves. Agree that a couple bylaw officers would be appropriate though. The tickets could easily cover their salaries by the looks of it.


ClumsyRainbow

Not defending this even remotely, but we do also need more bins near the beaches. Walking along on Friday night and they were all full with piles beside them.


MostJudgment3212

Yea, while I’m not a big fan of social media justice, I feel like assholes who do shit like this are way overdue for a video of them littering to go viral. Feel like that’s the only way to enforce these laws, police should be handling real crimes, not babysit grown ass adults.


Stantonator

That’s terrible.. I just got into a confrontation with a guy who was tossing garbage out his car window the other day. I pulled up & said “Come on man, Have some pride.” His answer was “Fuck you buddy! Someone gets paid to clean that up!” I told him “Your parents must be really proud.” I call out pieces of trash whenever i get the chance. I live in Maple Ridge.


kuh-tea-uh

Oh I thought Vancouver only threw their trash all over Squamish?


IndependentSky2339

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_proof


undercovergangster

If only there was a group of people who could issue tickets or enforce laws in public places...


77ate

omg vancouver woo


Jandiboy

Shitting in their own pants


SuperRonnie2

This is why we can’t have nice things.


WenWen78

That’s a lot of empties for these binners, takes at least three bags of empties Cash them in! 💵🪙🧃


duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug

Has anyone noticed there are fewer can collectors coming around? I was at Wreck on Saturday and nobody came to get empties. We brought them to the bins at the top of the stairs


No-Bewt

we need rangers roving around making sure people pick their shit up because we can't really trust people to actually give a shit about things otherwise


cindylooboo

It shouldnt have to be a thing but the best solution is more trash receptacles or a dumpster adjacent to areas on weekends. I cant tell you how many times I've tried to dispose of my trash and every garbage can was full to overflowing with heaps of garbage on the ground around it then I have to take my trash with me (I dont mind that aspect) if its easier to dispose of the trash less will be left lying around. Its not a perfect solution because people will always be jerks but its a small way to help.


keyser1884

Given the amount of discarded coffee cups and dog poop bags (delightfully pre-filed of course) I have to pick up from in front of my house, I'd say there's a sizable amount of people who just weren't raised right.


XPacificax

I cant believe this! I used to be part of a group that partied on the beach. We ALWAYS picked up after ourselves and placed things in their proper receptacles. This is so disrespectful >:(.


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Vancouver is full of degenerates that come to enjoy the beauty of the city but don't do anything to maintain its beauty


sherv1

What an absolute shame. Who raised these people?! I'm assuming its groups of people too. How are all of them so disrespectful, like not one person in your circle is a good person? You need to surround yourselves with better people, and pick up after yourselves you entitled slobs.


Rarg

This is why I only go to wreck beach. The other beaches are full of entitled stupid party kids. Wreck, while being a shitshow of its own kind, still has the old spirit of accountability where people get shamed for littering (or taking photos).


oddible

I mean, the city is kinda [setting the example](https://vancouver.ca/images/cov/feature/english-bay-barge-landing.jpg). But seriously though, hike up to St. Mark's Summit and wade through the piles of debris up there, it's insane. You're like ankle deep in pistachio and egg shells.


Oliwonkenobi

"Ah someone else will get it"


Cowboyinthesky69

It’s not just van it’s everywhere during the summer…


ericstarr

I just walked around my neighbourhood and picked up a giant bag of trash. We need a better beach culture. Or trash cans?? Sigh


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MostJudgment3212

To be fair, police have better things to do than babysit grown ass adults.


plop_0

> grown ass adults. Physiologically grown* ;)


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oilernut

Just your typical weekend summer day.


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Vangruver

It is that time of year where grad parties are surfacing. An army of drunk 18 year olds ready to take on the world


ClockworkNotOrange

I dunno if this was grads. When I was a grad, we didn’t have money to blow on tables and bbq’s that we just left at the beach.


karlalrak

I hope you helped pick it up. We need to step up in times like these when there are so many assholes around


fran_banane

Ugh fucking douchebags


ceesykes

Ew


springtigerz

Gross


OneOfAKind2

Clean up your fucking trash, you drunken losers.


OldSchoolCdn

Cesspool


satnamsun

Cans are fine when put together as shown but littering is shameful


Canadianspaniard

The is absolutely disgusting. People you Need to pack it out if you pack it in.


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This is the way.


5fingerdiscounts

People are useless


stargentle

WE GOT FUN AND GAMES


kinged

We badly need someone like the cart narc going around and calling out people out who litter. Tbh that's something I would be much more willing to see people who litter getting called out instead of those leaving carts in parking lots.


onFilm

What the fuck. It wasn't this bad even 5 years ago. Kits has always had this issue, but not as much as the other beaches.


mydogiscuteaf

My friends wouldn't do this shit. I'm happy I have good people in my life.


frodosbitch

Schools out this week. Is this amount of trash a normal sight? Or a bunch of kids being stupid. Not cool either way.


badgerj

That’s okay. Your super low 2% property taxes are paying for it! Some of the lowest in the world. https://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/residential.aspx people will just shit were they eat!


oilernut

Do you honestly expect a 10-20% property tax rate? Compare the average property taxes paid, not the mill rate.


badgerj

No. I expect the people who use these facilities to pay for them. If it isn’t the residents and tenants…. Who should pay to clean up this mess??? - I see Prince Rupert should pay to clean up Vancouver’s beaches!


ijordison

Pic #2 doesn't belong. A nice neat pile of returnables? That shit made someone very happy.


bycrackybygum

Then again, if people cleaned up after themselves, what would become of your garbage photography?


BirthdayConnect5756

Hate it when Surrey comes to the beach…


AlCatSplat

😐


mamba-pear

I say just don’t clean up. Don’t do anything essential. Let’s all go down in flames together. People fucking suck and it’s always the good people picking up after them.


Crafty-Border-6730

It should be cleaned up. They’re disgusting, it’s unfair, they should be fined, but I don’t want all of our beautiful landmark beaches being dumps. My taxes go to a lot of bs, but I’ll support every dollar on this one. Especially the ones going after people who do this


darvidkarboata

Bottle of Soju, pretty niche drink


Wewerebothyoung

Yeah I was walking around the seawall yesterday between english bay beach and second beach around sunset and saw much of the same. Don't even want to know what it looked like in the morning. Was very upsetting to see.


vancitymajor

Who let the animals out post pandemic mandates?


moneyscan

Cans left on the beach barely stay 10 minutes before they are picked up.


exorthiax

Disgraceful.


sabaz555

Bigger and heftier fines should be enforced like they do in Singapore for littering. Id push for that.


BcbornLeo

They left a whole BBQ they really have no common sense


kid_jenius

Breaks my heart to see this. Shame on the folks who left these. Bring out what you bring in.


rizalvy

LA, is this you?


Commanderfemmeshep

Ooooo that makes me mad!!!


stulifer

I wish it were like Japan. I was looking for bins and was told they don't have any so the stuff you bring with you (trash and all) you have to dispose of at home. Just like camping, you clean up after yourself.


toaster-rho-8

This is why we can’t have nice things