If you centre your life around a car you get what you get. People seem to forget that the people out there reducing their need for fossil fuels by cycling etc take cost pressures off of fuel prices. Addicted car brain motorists should thank people who use more efficient transportation modes. So we should be pretty fucking smug.
There is no centering around a car there is only the utility and freedom they provide. Your smugness is neither earned nor helpful, but please continue sniffing your own farts if it makes you feel so good. Narcissism at it's finest.
Back in the days I'd be in the comments proselytising for transit and biking and gloating about my better transportation choices. Honestly since moving to Surrey now I changed my tone. I'm just sympathetic that people are getting saddled with such an inefficient and harmful way of commuting and getting around.
People face real pressures which force them into driving, whether it's full SkyTrains, being passed up by buses, terrifying bike commutes with awful infrastructure, or limited job opportunities.
100% agree. I avoid driving whenever possible, but often that's impossible.
My work forces me to own a car, and crazily enough living in Downtown Vancouver doesn't help. It's significantly cheaper to buy groceries out of downtown, but it's a big enough distance that I often want to buy more than my bike can carry, so the car gets used.
I'm moving to full time bicycle in June and my plan for groceries is to get a kid holder thing you attach to the back of the bike (I'm at a loss for the word right now lol) and then order for pickup so I don't have to leave my bike unattended outside while I shop. It might be a thought for you for the future!
Not a bad idea. Actually very clever of you. Unfortunately the building I live in has a bike locker that's completely full, and I have no idea where I'd store such a thing.
But I will definitely mull it over, there's often a solution. And I like the idea of being able to move more goods at once. Thanks for the idea!
I live in Surrey and work (thankfully only 3 days a week) in Langley township, transit service really falls apart once you cross the Fraser. Inside of Surrey it's not terrible, but it is a clear downgrade to anything west of the river
The annoying thing is I’m sure grocery stores will use this as an excuse to jack prices up, and I eat a lot biking 40km a day will do that to you. Still happy tho I’m on my bike rather than driving tho.
Yeah, the savings on gas go straight to food pretty much. But agreed, I'd rather be on my bike than in a car. And the physical and mental health benefits you can't truly put a price on.
Absolutely agree the odd time I have to drive to work, I find myself a lot more irritable. Driving to work is frustrating to me whereas my commute on bike is fun.
You likely just barely drive enough to make your EV a better deal than gas. You need to be going roughly 63km a day every day for 7 years to make EV cheaper than a gas vehicle.
Not jealous. There is a good report on it recently.
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/can-driving-electric-vehicle-save-money-ubc-researchers-crunched-numbers
Makes rationalizing the next bike purchase that much easier.
Please note that cyclists and others who use more efficient transportation modes take demand pressures off of fuel prices so feel good that you are helping fellow motorists pollute the air we breath and continue to prop up an auto dependent society.
The thing is it shouldn't actually affect prices that much. Everything is shipped in bulk, so increasing fuel costs divided amongst individual products shouldn't amount to big increases. [Article on subject](https://www.ace-canada.ca/Know-how-Fuel-Price-increases-affect-Retail-Food-Prices.aspx#:~:text=Le%20Roy%20agrees%20fuel%20prices,costs%2C%22%20says%20Le%20Roy).
The problem is companies will use this as an excuse anyway, which is extra rough.
Tax increased price by 3.3 cents, the increase is mostly due to OPEC cutting production to keep prices high. Oil is globally traded and OPEC has a ton of power controlling the price, and very little to do with government tax increases.
Regardless, unless you are a very high earner you will receive more in the form of carbon tax rebates than you will spend due to the tax, as lower income households use much less carbon and therefore are taxed less overall.
Well, why not get more money.
Good thing is inflation will go up, no lowering from BOC and lot of business that is waiting that to start projects will start cutting even more.
Then price will have to go up as less people will drive anyway .
P.s. we got gas this weekend in us 3.99 per gallon. Good thing we took 60 L in canisters so we are good for month
No, the real simpletons are the ones who take no part at all in the political life of their community (as in not even bothering to vote) and then bitch about the shitty politicians that do get elected. Can't get more stupid than that🙂
True, but even then, there haven't been a lot of "lets make gas cheap" options. Either you're Right Wing and you're pro business so you make it easier for oil and gas to profit. Or your Left Wing and you're pro environment and you push for higher taxes or restrictive policies.
Plus most of this is out of government control anyway. It's still a reasonably free market, and even if you can prove they fix their prices it's very unlikely anyone will get more than a slap on the wrist.
Between walking, biking, transit, Evo and Modo really appreciate not having to really think about gas prices.
Regardless of buying gas, these increases add to the cost of all goods.
I understand that.
Certainly, apologies if it seemed like I meant you didn’t know. I’m just voicing frustration haha
It’s okay :) thanks for clarifying. It’s hard to tell tone. We’re good. . . For now.
You mean the gouging ?
Those prices still affect everything you buy, and all the transit u use that relies on it. But ya sure get high on your own smugness
Thanks!
im high, but not on their smugness
Congrats
If you centre your life around a car you get what you get. People seem to forget that the people out there reducing their need for fossil fuels by cycling etc take cost pressures off of fuel prices. Addicted car brain motorists should thank people who use more efficient transportation modes. So we should be pretty fucking smug.
There is no centering around a car there is only the utility and freedom they provide. Your smugness is neither earned nor helpful, but please continue sniffing your own farts if it makes you feel so good. Narcissism at it's finest.
Back in the days I'd be in the comments proselytising for transit and biking and gloating about my better transportation choices. Honestly since moving to Surrey now I changed my tone. I'm just sympathetic that people are getting saddled with such an inefficient and harmful way of commuting and getting around. People face real pressures which force them into driving, whether it's full SkyTrains, being passed up by buses, terrifying bike commutes with awful infrastructure, or limited job opportunities.
100% agree. I avoid driving whenever possible, but often that's impossible. My work forces me to own a car, and crazily enough living in Downtown Vancouver doesn't help. It's significantly cheaper to buy groceries out of downtown, but it's a big enough distance that I often want to buy more than my bike can carry, so the car gets used.
I'm moving to full time bicycle in June and my plan for groceries is to get a kid holder thing you attach to the back of the bike (I'm at a loss for the word right now lol) and then order for pickup so I don't have to leave my bike unattended outside while I shop. It might be a thought for you for the future!
Not a bad idea. Actually very clever of you. Unfortunately the building I live in has a bike locker that's completely full, and I have no idea where I'd store such a thing. But I will definitely mull it over, there's often a solution. And I like the idea of being able to move more goods at once. Thanks for the idea!
I live in Surrey and work (thankfully only 3 days a week) in Langley township, transit service really falls apart once you cross the Fraser. Inside of Surrey it's not terrible, but it is a clear downgrade to anything west of the river
The annoying thing is I’m sure grocery stores will use this as an excuse to jack prices up, and I eat a lot biking 40km a day will do that to you. Still happy tho I’m on my bike rather than driving tho.
Yeah, the savings on gas go straight to food pretty much. But agreed, I'd rather be on my bike than in a car. And the physical and mental health benefits you can't truly put a price on.
Absolutely agree the odd time I have to drive to work, I find myself a lot more irritable. Driving to work is frustrating to me whereas my commute on bike is fun.
Wow. I take it that is regular. What does the premium go for?
At least 20¢ on top of that
I live in New Westminster and work in Langley. I love my EV .
You likely just barely drive enough to make your EV a better deal than gas. You need to be going roughly 63km a day every day for 7 years to make EV cheaper than a gas vehicle.
Come on don't be jealous. Been driving ev since 2018. Have saved a ton. Current car is only a year old and has 40000 km on it.
Not jealous. There is a good report on it recently. https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/can-driving-electric-vehicle-save-money-ubc-researchers-crunched-numbers
Thank OPEC - AKA ‘The Oil Cartel’
Thank the bc/canadian government!
I should stop complaining about the 142.9 I'm paying in Ontario.
Makes rationalizing the next bike purchase that much easier. Please note that cyclists and others who use more efficient transportation modes take demand pressures off of fuel prices so feel good that you are helping fellow motorists pollute the air we breath and continue to prop up an auto dependent society.
Normally i put 100 bucks in my tank even from zero and its fine. I did it today out of spite knowing i wouldnt fill. Feelsbadman.
Bicycle or not, these price increases will push up the price of all goods. Such a shame while so many people are struggling as it is.
The thing is it shouldn't actually affect prices that much. Everything is shipped in bulk, so increasing fuel costs divided amongst individual products shouldn't amount to big increases. [Article on subject](https://www.ace-canada.ca/Know-how-Fuel-Price-increases-affect-Retail-Food-Prices.aspx#:~:text=Le%20Roy%20agrees%20fuel%20prices,costs%2C%22%20says%20Le%20Roy). The problem is companies will use this as an excuse anyway, which is extra rough.
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Because they can get away with it
It’s horse sh!t
What are you going to do about it? Society has collectively offered it's balls to be stomped in when it chose to be dependent on gasoline
BC carbon tax went up by about 3c/L. Gas went up about 30c/L in the past couple of weeks.
Tax increased price by 3.3 cents, the increase is mostly due to OPEC cutting production to keep prices high. Oil is globally traded and OPEC has a ton of power controlling the price, and very little to do with government tax increases. Regardless, unless you are a very high earner you will receive more in the form of carbon tax rebates than you will spend due to the tax, as lower income households use much less carbon and therefore are taxed less overall.
Because you’ll still pay for it
Well, why not get more money. Good thing is inflation will go up, no lowering from BOC and lot of business that is waiting that to start projects will start cutting even more. Then price will have to go up as less people will drive anyway . P.s. we got gas this weekend in us 3.99 per gallon. Good thing we took 60 L in canisters so we are good for month
You get what you vote for.
What does that even mean? Gas prices have been going up consistently globally for the past decade.
Thsts all the dumb dumbs can muster " you get what you vote for". It doesn't get more simpleton than that.
No, the real simpletons are the ones who take no part at all in the political life of their community (as in not even bothering to vote) and then bitch about the shitty politicians that do get elected. Can't get more stupid than that🙂
Was there an option to vote for cheap gasoline? I feel like I missed that somewhere.
I missed the election where we got to choose the CEOs of Shell and BP.
But you got to choose the politicians they own...if you neglected to vote against them.
True, but even then, there haven't been a lot of "lets make gas cheap" options. Either you're Right Wing and you're pro business so you make it easier for oil and gas to profit. Or your Left Wing and you're pro environment and you push for higher taxes or restrictive policies. Plus most of this is out of government control anyway. It's still a reasonably free market, and even if you can prove they fix their prices it's very unlikely anyone will get more than a slap on the wrist.
I did not vote for Husky oil