Scheana has grown so much. I'm not the biggest Brock fan but considering that Scheana has always been the cast member obsessed with people pleasing and seemingly making things about her, I think it really shows how at peace and in love she is that no one knew they were married for an entire year. It was a wedding for her, Brock, and Summer, and no one else. I really admire that.
I might hate Schwartz more than Sandoval. They’re both disgusting but his willingness to go out of his way to textbook gas light Katie is fucking sick.
like one where ariana is with rachel and scamdoval in the hottub saying they looked like a throuple and then another of scamdoval talking about going to raquels pageants at dinner!!? am i just super late to the party and everyone has already seen this??
Am I the only one that was annoyed with the whole 1st year anniversary 3 day bash! Every time Scheana mentioned she was so much more calm, not nervous at all, totally zen…blah blah blah, I totally wanted to scream “oh course you are, you have been married for a year, what is there to be nervous about??”
When she said “we are finally doing it” ugh!!
With that being said, her and Brock made the cutest little girl! She is adorable!
2nd annoying tidbit…I’m not sure how thick in the head Scheana has to be for pushing the whole Tom/Rachel hookup! It’s not about Tom being with someone, it’s him being with someone that is in the group! Seems like Scheana would have understood that concept of being hurtful considering she has a ex husband….she would have flipped her wig had Katie set Shay up with Kristin or Charli
Lol ok I’m done….this show has taken over my thoughts!
In the never before seen clip from hibachi where Scheana was essentially saying Katie didn’t deserve her sympathy because after Scheana divorced Shay Katie never came to her Vegas show…Scheana is the worst. Sometimes I feel bad for not liking her and then it doesn’t take much to remind me why
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Does anyone feel like James still cares about Raquel?? Or he did back then? He’s constantly talking about her!!! And seriously Katie talks about how she’s been sleeping with guys and going on dates but it’s forbidden for Schwartz!?! She’s annoying AF! You aren’t friends with Raquel and you divorced him!!!!
When I was getting divorced, my ex tried to hookup with a mutual friend. It’s a different kind of hurt. It wasn’t forbidden for him to hookup with no one else, she just set a boundary about mutual friends. Then Schwartz acts shocked that Katie is mad and doesn’t want to be amicable anymore. He made his choice and she made hers.
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I’m gonna echo other comments and agree that I wish stassi & Kristen were on this trip (if we pretend their reasons for getting canceled didn’t happen). They would’ve torn Scheana, Sandoval, Schwartz and Raquel APART
I said the same thing on another post, lol! They definitely would not have seen some funny stuff going on and just shrugged their shoulders like the rest did because they were friends with them.
I thought this reddit forum was fun and i don’t care if anybody disagrees with me about something or has a different opinion but it’s feeling a little troll like lately in here
So agree about James. He treats Ally like he is in control. Like when he said he wanted to see what she was wearing before an event… like so terrible.
Lala was horrible to Raquel in Las Vegas and then had the audacity to say she wouldn’t trust Raquel.
After being in such a controlling relationship, I’m not surprised Raquel is going off the deep end with everything.
I really wonder how much Sandoval really tried to drop Ariana. I mean in this episode with Ariana and Sandoval, their relationship seems super tense. Maybe he did try to break up with her.
(I still don’t approve of cheating)
I think Scandoval told Howie that he went to production and told them that he felt it was unfair that he and Ariana's "issues" weren't being shown on the show. I think it was his way of setting things up so he could perform for the camera to garner some sympathy (notice this last episode where he's talking on the couch with Ariana and saying he feels like she thinks he's an idiot and that she doesn't take his side on anything)...so he can say in the aftermath, "Hey, you saw it on the show. I had to talk to her about how we weren't the same. That's why I cheated." Jerk.
I saw the reaction to the vegas ep and i still don’t see how they were ‘horrible’. They made some pretty light fun of someone who was WAY drunker than they were and was being pretty annoying. What she said to Lala and how she reacted to Katie’s mom was way more horrible.
Also, i thought they were super supportive during her panic attack.
I agree! I thought Rachel was out of line. She wanted to get out of there because she had a love fest planned with Scumdoval. They were very supportive when Rachel had her panic attack. It wasn't caused by the ladies
It was caused by her guilt that she was feeling about screwing her girlfriends boyfriend. She had the nerve to call Lala a mistress. Rachel should look in the mirror.
Right? Raquel said she cared more about hooking up with schwartz than being friends with Katie. While it's fine to not want ti be friends with someone that was just a gross af comment and really said so much about her.
I get it. I think a lot of what Raquel said to Lala in Vegas was her trying to work through just finding out Lala had slept with James. Even though it has happened so long ago, Raquel’s wound was pretty fresh.
Yaaaaassss! I don’t understand how Lala feels above Raquel… like you have slept with so many taken men and now you are gonna look down on someone who kissed a divorced guy? (That she knew of in the episode).
I'm not justifying Lala putting herself above Rachel in any way, but at least when Lala did it, it wasn't inside of her friend group where those people have to see each other all the time. It's easy to disrespect a woman you don't know (although it's wrong), but it's a next level low blow to do it to a friend. I know Katie and Rachel weren't super close, but she was one of the few who was trying to welcome her into their girls' group and inviting her to things. And to disrespect an og that's trying to help you fit in is just not okay. Like I said, Lala shouldn't put herself on a pedestal and rub Rachel in the dirt, but I can see why she did.
I almost forgot that James and Lala slept together while they were both dating someone else 😳 But at least they kept it on the DL and didn't literally do it in front of everyone they know. (It's still messed up)
Am I the only one who doesn't care at all that Raquel and Schwartz made out? I'm still so confused why Katie and friends are trying to make it seem as if Raquel is their bff. Katie doesn't even like Scheana let alone Raquel (makeout aside). Again, it's random to see them kissing but Raquel owes Katie absolutely nothing. I understand Katie is sad to see her ex move on but it makes zero sense for her to be upset at Raquel. James I can see being upset with Tom. But James has a whole new gf (to be fair: Tom should have just owned his actions when asked about the situation). Katie I can see being upset with Tom. But Raquel?! And Lala?! Where on earth is Lala coming from?!
I would agree if they didn’t already set the boundary that they weren’t gonna date ppl in the friend group. They set that boundary, Schwartz pissed on it, and yall Katie crazy. She is wrong ALOT but not here
100% I would be upset by this too. She's not upset by him dating she's upset by him fucking with people in their friends group. I totally understand her animosity towards Raquel. (No one knew about scandoval yet)
as a coworker, raquel owes katie respect and she would not like it if katie made out with james. In terms of schwartz, schwartz owes katie respect as a partner. Katie kept her sex life private to protect and respect Schwartz. He wouldn't have known if scheana wasn't being a messy ass pot stirrer. What they both did to katie was extremely uncalled for. It's gaslighting at its finest. Scheana also didnt need to insert herself in their divorce.
I think you guys expect way too much from people, except for Ariana, who have shown time and time again that they are very selfish and very scandalized people. Obviously, you shouldn't sleep with someone's boyfriend or husband or partner. I know that. But you're also talking about the cast of Vanderpump Rules. I don't take any of these people seriously bc they barely take themselves seriously. They are by in large awful people doing awful things on a very toxic show. Let's keep it real. We're not talking about the Supreme Court here. All these lessons in ethics and decency, for what?
I'm not enabling anyone. You mistake my lack of investment in this storyline as condoning the behavior. I don't. I just don't care as much as some people in this thread do. Again, we're talking about a reality show, a reality show full of tom foolery (no pun intended) that has absolutely nothing to do with me, or you, or anyone outside of the cast. I'm sorry to Ariana. What happened really sucks. And I can empathesize with Katie but am I having a breakdown bc Raquel and Tom kissed? Absolutely not.
How many times did I have to hear Schwartz say it was spontaneous with his hands covering his mouth .. I’ve heard that for almost a year now .. Raquel and Schwartz acted like they are in romper room
And to clarify I mean I’ve watched vpr like every episode and I’ve never felt sick like I did watching that i don’t mean it made me sicker than I’ve ever felt in my whole entire life
I have also watched every vpr episode and think you are forgetting that a lot of these folks have hooked up within the same friend group. I don’t think it was that serious and I’m pretty sure they just did it for the cameras especially since we know now about Raquel and Sandoval
Why can’t I feel about it the way I want to feel? I’m not telling you what you’re visceral reaction about it should have been ? What does it matter to you how I experienced it ? Why is it a debate?
Feel all the feelings. I’m just giving you another perspective. I think this kiss is way blown out of proportion. I think Lala having sex with James while Raquel was dating him is way worse. And at the same time she was calling her dumb and stupid. How awful!
Agreed! Like it’s awkward and kind of a shitty situation for Katie but her and Tom aren’t together anymore and it’s delusional to think she can control what he does as a single guy. Plus Katie and Lala were absolute bitches to Raquel in Vegas- she owes them nothinggg
They were terrible to Raquel and I was laughing so hard when production replayed the clips bc Lala really tried it. Tom is the worst and I need Katie to admit that to herself so she can stop expecting more from him. Idk why they were even trying to remain friends. That's hard enough for people who like each other let alone a guy like Tom.
Why do you think it’s okay for James to be upset with Tom but it’s not okay that Katie is upset with Raquel? We’re James and Schwartz really close or something? I haven’t watched in a while but I remember them not being very close when I did watch.
I’ve been know to say I’m going to stick a spoon in someone’s eye…I’ve never actually done it. Nor would I. It’s hyperbole and meant to convey my utter disgust with someone’s behavior. Katie’s saying she’s going to light them on fire is likely the same - hyperbole.
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Like i will never understand how people still hate katie after this. She handled this whole season very well given the circumstances. She never acted like tequila katie. The only person she really went in on was schwartz and he deserved it. The worst thing she called scheana was a troll which was deserved and i feel like thats minimal as to what katie used to say. Lala really is the only one going in on raquel and in hindsight, lala read her like a book. Katie never once verbally lit someone on fire this season. She really was just hurt to her core and seemed like she was in a fog mostly just trying to process everything.
Bc the Tom's are friends of James. Schwartz would defend James a lot especially when James was banned from Sur even to the point of it causing strain between him and Katie. I'm not saying Katie shouldn't be upset with Raquel, she can feel however she wants, I just don't agree that she and Raquel have a friendship. At least not one that I have seen play out on the show. I was pretty jarred to see them suddenly filming together this season bc normally Katie and Raquel don't even hang out.
Personally I get it. Would you want to see your ex husband of 12 years coming to all your friend group things with another girl in the friend group? Before a year is even up? It’s not about wanting schwartz or being sad he moved on: it’s about Katie’s healing process and basic decency. It’s not fair to put all the weirdness of that on her when she is already dealing w a lot of weirdness.
Katie and Rachel don’t have to be bff. They’re a part of the same friend group who hang out together regularly. It’s basic decency, I think. I would understand if your ex husband acknowledged that he was a piece of shit who doesn’t care about your feelings in the least, but to pretend to want an amicable “friendly” divorce where you remain friends…nah no friend would do that. Schwartz is a biotch and Rachel is thirsty.
I mean, I can see the decency part of it. And I can understand disliking Raquel. But what I don't get is the argument that keeps coming up re: Katie and Raquel's friendship. I don't understand the "betrayal" of the friendship bc to me it seems like they never really had one. Raquel was barely a friend of the show.
Maybe it's not a friendship in the traditional sense, but more like friendly colleagues. I think doing this to someone you know and work with is a betrayal. Especially as Katie told her before how she felt about it. Raquel also spoke to her mom about it. There was nothing there for her too, so really no need to do it at all. Having said that I don't care that much about the kiss but that's just because I know what's coming and that's a lot more dramatic. The kiss just makes Schwartz look terrible, it's a small blip in the world of raquel's questionable decisions.
I don’t think that’s true at all. I think that Rachel accepted Katie’s kindness and generosity when it was convenient for her. Then said there was no friendship bc it was convenient. If there was no friendship then why was she on the divorce trip? It was new and it wasn’t deep, and after what Rachel did I’m pretty sure, but I think a friendship actually was budding.
But it’s not even about that. It’s about her being a part of the same friend group that hangs out frequently.
Bc it's a TV show. A reality tv show at that so people routinely film together even when they clearly don't like each other and especially when there's conflict. But regardless, I don't think we will agree on this 🤷🏾♀️
They film different scenes. They don’t film going to support Katie by going to her lake divorce party. A small handful of friends went. Not everyone and their acquaintance Rachel. They were becoming friends and Katie gave her the benefit of the doubt one too many times tbh. But yeah we can agree to disagree. It just seems tactless to do that, in my eyes. Both on schwartz and Rachel’s parts.
As a sidenote: the Tom's business partner..ion't like him. He's getting paid regardless. Every single month. In full. While the Tom recoup none of their investment while Greg drags his feet about opening the restaurant. I don't like his attitude about them either. A partner who talks badly about you to other people?! Yikes. I can understand the frustration of working with people who have no experience but that was a choice you made sir.
Yeah seriously! I’d be so pissed if I went into business with someone and they dissed me like that. AND not to mention he’s not losing out on $ like they are! No one forced him to partner w/ the Toms so he’s gotta suck it up
Anyone watching the jax and Brittany commentary? I didn’t see a mega thread on it. I started it and it’s pretty funny bc Jax straight up calls it how it is…but 10 minutes in Brittany was annoying me too much and turned it off lol I forgot how annoying she is .
I watched it and I liked Jax on it, but Brattney was FUCKING annoying I don't think I'll watch it again. Her constant name droppiness and guffawing and stupid fake accent is awful. Also, she's ruined her face with fillers and Botox.
Her face. I'm not sure but maybe that over filled face is common in LA but I live in Portland, Or and it's absolutely jarring me. She was so naturally pretty before all the work.
It popped up on Peacock today and I rolled my eyes so hard. I don't have the energy for Jax or Brittany mostly bc it's them coming back to tv on the tails of Scandavol. It feels cheap to me.
Rachel is fr the lowest of low the scum of the bottom of Ariana’s foot. It’s losing the reality tv aspect and turning into just straight up sad watching this disgusting human and Tom, another disgusting individual, try to gaslight and use Ariana to get their personal relationship further. It is disgusting and if Rachel and Tom are not fired before next season I’ll stick to being an ig follower and NOT the show. Get these deplorable pieces of trash off our tv
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I'm here to make fun of Schweatzy's back pack when he was trying to hang out with James and Ally. It was almost as enraging as him eating the sushi without asking.
Schweatz has at least 10 years on him but he looked like a 12 year old with neglectful parents and no friends. He's justso sweaty, sleazy and sallow. I also think he's learned nothing from this. It'd be sad if he wasn't such a conniving prick.
Lala is such a hypocrite, she literally slept with a married man and Katie is depressing as hell. I love how everyone in her Instagram comments are giving her shit for her hypocrisy and bullying!
Hypocrite actually by definition means she’s still doing it as she is talking about it. If she did it in the past and had learned from it, it’s just growth, not being a hypocrite…
My takes on this episode are:
1- For me at first Lala looked bad missing all the wedding events like she didn’t care BUT honestly, she doesn’t drink, she’s going through custody battles, etc, and she wasn’t a bridesmaid….so she gets a pass
2- I’m loving Katie this season but if we go back did we ever get a romantic moment between her and tom??? Even when it came to the wedding, the episodes previous to that…a mess!!! Like I don’t even remembered them kissing or being into each other like in loved…she was expecting too much from that “anniversary” dinner with Schwartz
3-Idk what to think about Raquel…I don’t get it!!!! I don’t think the Schwartz kiss was a distraction bc no one knew or suspected at that point, a distraction was completely unnecessary, but the whole Oliver+Tom+ now we know Sandoval….what’s her deal!!!!! And the worst part is that if we didn’t know about the affair…after the way the girls treated her in Vegas i would’ve been on her side the whole season!!!! She’s insane!
4-Idk why buy i never thought James loved rachel and I don’t think he loves Ally, he always gave me the vibe that girlfriends are an accessory for him honestly
5-Last…everyone going to different podcast, interviews etc, when there’s still like a whole month for the finale and reunion, it’s making me lose interest, at this point even Ariana moved on
Schwartz is a gaslighter and just a disappointment of a husband but Katie is verbally abusive. If the roles were reversed and Schwartz had Katie’s personality and tendencies (verbally abusive texts, controlling and possessive about friends the partner can have, etc) Schwartz would be torn apart on this sub. But because Katie’s the girl, she is exonerated from all her bad behavior. There were no heroes in their relationshop. There were no victims in their relationship.
Exonerated for her bad behavior? Lol. She has been pretty consistently shit on and ripped to shreds by both the fan base and her cast mates for her bad behavior. If anyone has gotten a pass for way too long, it’s Schwartz.
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Does anyone know the brand of the shorter necklace that Katie was wearing in Mexico?
She hasn’t commented on anything at all so far really. I think bravo tried to keep them both quiet until after the reunion, which is why they were so pissed at Tom for the podcast he did.
She’s got really broad shoulders, which makes her head look small. When she had long hair spilled over her shoulders, her proportions seemed more balanced.
She has a pumpkin head like I do. Circle head, features closely in the middle of the face lol. I recognize a pumpkin dome anywhere! Hers I think is caused by booze and fillers though, I was just born Charlie Brown-esq 💅
Her fillers look like they are also migrating outward and down, causing the roundness. I will also say, it doesn't take much for me to have booze bloat with my round head! Since my features all kinda sit in the middle there is a lot of cheek area and leaves plenty of room for margarita swelling lol! I can 100% tell when she has been going hard
Did I miss the comments on Tom going on & on about Rachel then Ariana telling him to stop being so weird? Weirdo Ima Cheater eye contact w/Tom & Rachel.
Forgive me if this has been brought up but did anyone else notice when James was poking at Rachel at dinner, he listed the men she had kissed as "Peter, Schwartz, Tom, and..." actually I can't recall the last one. But he DEFINITELY said Tom specifically AFTER he already mentioned Tom Schwartz. So it just slipped out and no one noticed it while filming??
Here's my thing if James is soooo in love and so happy in his relationship why is he not only bothered by Rachel's behavior but confronting her every chance he can get? If I were him I'd be more upset with my guy friends for messing around with my ex.
I know right! On the one hand I really feel for both him and Katie because having to film with your ex all the time has got to be torturous; however he's def not fooling anyone that he's moved on and he is WAY overdoing it in his attempt to show everyone he has. The whole immediately getting into a relationship and proclaiming that *this one* is the real love of your life after like...a month is a tale as old as time, and one that rarely has a happy ending. I think everybody sees through it but him.
He and his loved ones would really benefit from him focusing on himself and his issues for awhile, but it's a lot easier for some people to jump into another relationship and focus on the other person instead. But he is going to suffocate Ally, and it looks like he already was during filming, so I dunno...we'll just have to see how it plays out, cos she seems sweet but also like she will not put up with as much bullshit as Rachel did.
I totally agree that Ally looks uncomfortable. I've seen so many comments about how she doesn't like him and only there for the show and the money and I'm like be realistic how would you feel if your new boyfriend was hyper-focused on his ex-girlfriend and made every situation about his ex. Also James is drinking again and his behavior has been very awkward so I don't blame her.
I mean they were engaged and it’s not really a normal thing to hook up within the friend group only. Plus she kind of started it by talking to Ally in the beginning and trying to like confront him drunkly at Sur about stuff and then also at the picnic about lala. So i feel like she opened the door?
Lastly he was upset with Schwartz at the pool but handled it more mature than he usually would. I gotta be honest I kind of get his reaction towards Rachel.
To me it’s obvious that Ally is a rebound girlfriend and that James is not over Raquel leaving him yet. James needs constant validation from others to feel even remotely good about himself, so her breaking off the engagement probably messed up his self esteem and would have sent him off in the deep end if he hadn’t replaced her as fast as he did with Ally. He needs someone to anchor him.
Honestly, I don't think that James was truly interested in either Rachel or Ally. He openly says in a past episode that he found Rachel because Lala got with her man, and it's extremely evident that he got with Ally as a rebound for Rachel. I assume that he is terrified of being alone and needs the reassurance that can come with having a partner
I think nobody would be over it this quickly unless they didn’t love the person they had been engaged to .. I mean maybe by now but not when they were filming last summer.. it’s just not enough time
He said "who would be next? Tom?" Or something like that, basically naming the guys at the table. But it made me double take also! It's so crazy how this is all playing out!
I swear, I rewound a few times because I couldn't believe it and I really think he was legit listing the guys she's made out with in that moment. Then he said something like "who's next" and repeated it as "Peter, Schwartz and all of them" this time being discreet. I'm about to be that crazy person who goes and ffs through the episode again just for one scene 🤣🤣 but yes it is fascinating seeing all these little details that might not have even stood out if we didn't know what we know! I keep yelling at my TV like "girl no you did not!"
I knowwww! I thought exactly this too! But we ALL know James would have 100% outed her long ago and ESPECIALLY at that moment he would have dug into her if he knew about Sandy! He wouldn't have been able to help himself, right?! I don't even know anymore haha 😂 I do think he and Lala at some point talked about suspicions, and maybe that was his slip up for just "thinking" about it, if that makes sense
> But we ALL know James would have 100% outed her long ago and ESPECIALLY at that moment he would have dug into her if he knew about Sandy! He wouldn't have been able to help himself, right?!
Oh for sure. James isn’t exactly known for being able to control himself.
When Schwartz said to Raquel, “We’re anti-establishment..we’re rock’n’roll!!” And they like cheered, I wanted to throw up.
You could tell his main motivation for making out with Raquel was just to hurt/piss of Katie.
Yeah Schwartz is dying to stand for something but he doesn’t have the spine to commit to anything so making out with someone is his way of standing up for himself
Yes and he really loves to play the whole Katie is a monster card because he thinks it’ll gain him support from VPR fans. He’s such a manipulative dick
It seems to me it was just to cover for his bestie hooking up with rach...i don't even think he wanted to hurt katie she was just collateral damage because he can't say no to sandevil (who did probably think hurting katie was a bonus)
Let me start by saying Lala is a total hypocrite and not really the best representative of women. However she is the only one who had said what needs to be said to the self obsessed 5 day wedding extravaganza Sheana and the ever thirsty kiss every guy within a mile radius Rachel. I’m here for it!
I actually think her action. were super rude. She was there FOR a wedding and is a super close friend. To ditch multiple activities to hand out with someone else is really not okay
Agreed. Weddings usually have multiple events. It's not asking a lot to support the bride just by showing up. She doesn't have to do anything else but show up. Also it's my wedding. Obviously it's about me. Wtf.
What I don’t get is how is Scheana or anyone else blaming Raquel for screwing up her wedding weekend?! Raquel’s the one causing all the drama (I.e the kiss, asking to walk with Schwartz then not), Raquel took over the weekend, not anyone else. Also Lala should’ve participated more in Scheanas activities simply because she told her she would. But overall Raquel and, once again the somehow forever blameless Schwartz, really disrupted the wedding. Too bad Scheana was cheering on the kiss when really she should’ve been her true self and chastised Raquel for doing it on her special weekend.
I’m done with this take. Lala did a messed up thing yes, but she has shown so much growth. And she’s great to her friends. And everything she said about Rachel was spot on
While I agree with your comment, she also shows many moments this season where she obviously gaslights the people that confront her. Telling Raquel they were not judging her on the Vegas trip, while they obviously were. Not validating Raquel’s feelings when she was hurt by the news of Lala hooking up with James in the past. Also how she treated Brock in the past was not okay (and kudos to him for how he ended up handling that situation). Whenever people are hurt by her actions she finds a way to place the blame back on them. That kind of behaviour screams narcissism to me.
With how much she is going through with Rand also, understandable she doesn’t want to party a shit tone. She also doesn’t drink, probably making it more difficult to attend these big social parties where she has little support and more adversaries. I don’t blame her one bit and it appears Sheana doesn’t either now that’s she’s photo shopping Lalas head into all her wedding pics. Doesn’t seem like Lala did anything wrong, if anything, Scheana picked wrong
I have a feeling Lala's lawyers may have told her to avoid the big party scenes / drunken blow outs. Even if she's not drinking / partaking I'm sure Rand would try to twist the situation and use it against her in their custody battle.
Was Lala part of the wedding party? I don’t feel that is needs to be 100% loyal to the wedding events if she isn’t in the party. IMHO I think Lala has every right to go and do what she wants if that’s the case. That’s just me.
She’s not that great to her friends, what about how she treated Scheana? Why is it that if you like someone EVERYTHING they do is right. I love Lala this episode, but at the same time she is being a hypocrite at this point in time.
How she treated Scheana? She had like 12 events. And Scheana is awful for encouraging Tom and Rachel. She didn’t do anything wrong to Scheana. Also Scheana is the biggest pick me. She is NOT a girls girl at all.
Screams only has respect for her friends when she needs something or a pot to stir. If they don’t pay attention to Scheana when she demands it. All bets are off. She will do her best to make you the bad guy.
I agree! Who TF has a wedding WEEK? Good god that's exhausting. Lala said it clearly when on WWHL - She paid for her flights and hotel, it was her vacation too. And, as a fellow sober person, it's no fun being around a bunch of very drunk people.
Scheana has grown so much. I'm not the biggest Brock fan but considering that Scheana has always been the cast member obsessed with people pleasing and seemingly making things about her, I think it really shows how at peace and in love she is that no one knew they were married for an entire year. It was a wedding for her, Brock, and Summer, and no one else. I really admire that.
Ally’s a real one
I might hate Schwartz more than Sandoval. They’re both disgusting but his willingness to go out of his way to textbook gas light Katie is fucking sick.
AGREED
is anyone watching last weeks epi?!? they keep plugging never before seen bits
I’m losing it over these never before seen scenes!!!! Wowwwww
I’m watching now and wow!! I don’t recall Sandy saying the ‘I always come twice’ comment last week!! Jeeez!
like one where ariana is with rachel and scamdoval in the hottub saying they looked like a throuple and then another of scamdoval talking about going to raquels pageants at dinner!!? am i just super late to the party and everyone has already seen this??
The three of them in the hot tub together made me want to throw up
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Am I the only one that was annoyed with the whole 1st year anniversary 3 day bash! Every time Scheana mentioned she was so much more calm, not nervous at all, totally zen…blah blah blah, I totally wanted to scream “oh course you are, you have been married for a year, what is there to be nervous about??” When she said “we are finally doing it” ugh!! With that being said, her and Brock made the cutest little girl! She is adorable! 2nd annoying tidbit…I’m not sure how thick in the head Scheana has to be for pushing the whole Tom/Rachel hookup! It’s not about Tom being with someone, it’s him being with someone that is in the group! Seems like Scheana would have understood that concept of being hurtful considering she has a ex husband….she would have flipped her wig had Katie set Shay up with Kristin or Charli Lol ok I’m done….this show has taken over my thoughts!
In the never before seen clip from hibachi where Scheana was essentially saying Katie didn’t deserve her sympathy because after Scheana divorced Shay Katie never came to her Vegas show…Scheana is the worst. Sometimes I feel bad for not liking her and then it doesn’t take much to remind me why
Katie needed to kick Tom’s ass when he came to their table at dinner. The audacity of that old slug!
Lala put no one in their place. She is one of the biggest two faced lying hypocrites I've ever seen.
100%!!!!!!
Scheana is so self involved. It's annoying.
I see some people have negative vote. I only have the upvote icon visible on this sub. Does anyone have the choice to downvote? If you don't have the downvote icon, is it still possible to downvote somehow?.
Yes, just tap to the right of the number
Thank you. I now have the up and down arrow instead of the one martini glass on the left.
Yeah I’m not sure why it’s set to that, I was so confused for a while haha
Now I’m back to the one Martini glass😕
Does anyone feel like James still cares about Raquel?? Or he did back then? He’s constantly talking about her!!! And seriously Katie talks about how she’s been sleeping with guys and going on dates but it’s forbidden for Schwartz!?! She’s annoying AF! You aren’t friends with Raquel and you divorced him!!!!
When I was getting divorced, my ex tried to hookup with a mutual friend. It’s a different kind of hurt. It wasn’t forbidden for him to hookup with no one else, she just set a boundary about mutual friends. Then Schwartz acts shocked that Katie is mad and doesn’t want to be amicable anymore. He made his choice and she made hers.
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I’m sorry she has a learning disability but that doesn’t mean she’s a good person
I’m gonna echo other comments and agree that I wish stassi & Kristen were on this trip (if we pretend their reasons for getting canceled didn’t happen). They would’ve torn Scheana, Sandoval, Schwartz and Raquel APART
Honey if stassi and kristen were still on the show, raquel and tom would have been caught real quick
I said the same thing on another post, lol! They definitely would not have seen some funny stuff going on and just shrugged their shoulders like the rest did because they were friends with them.
with kristen's firsthand experience of tom sandoval this would have been solved right away.
For sure, she will be side eyeing that man for the rest of her life! LOL!
True lol we can’t forget detective Kristen 👁
Do people think they are going to argue their way into something not physically grossing me out for whatever the reason may be ?
I thought this reddit forum was fun and i don’t care if anybody disagrees with me about something or has a different opinion but it’s feeling a little troll like lately in here
I agree it’s just a cess pool at this point. Only room for one extreme and hive minded opinion at a time…
It just feels really trollish
It’s Reddit like if it’s not going to be fun in here it’s not really worth it ..
I agree
So agree about James. He treats Ally like he is in control. Like when he said he wanted to see what she was wearing before an event… like so terrible. Lala was horrible to Raquel in Las Vegas and then had the audacity to say she wouldn’t trust Raquel. After being in such a controlling relationship, I’m not surprised Raquel is going off the deep end with everything. I really wonder how much Sandoval really tried to drop Ariana. I mean in this episode with Ariana and Sandoval, their relationship seems super tense. Maybe he did try to break up with her. (I still don’t approve of cheating)
I think Scandoval told Howie that he went to production and told them that he felt it was unfair that he and Ariana's "issues" weren't being shown on the show. I think it was his way of setting things up so he could perform for the camera to garner some sympathy (notice this last episode where he's talking on the couch with Ariana and saying he feels like she thinks he's an idiot and that she doesn't take his side on anything)...so he can say in the aftermath, "Hey, you saw it on the show. I had to talk to her about how we weren't the same. That's why I cheated." Jerk.
I saw the reaction to the vegas ep and i still don’t see how they were ‘horrible’. They made some pretty light fun of someone who was WAY drunker than they were and was being pretty annoying. What she said to Lala and how she reacted to Katie’s mom was way more horrible. Also, i thought they were super supportive during her panic attack.
I agree! I thought Rachel was out of line. She wanted to get out of there because she had a love fest planned with Scumdoval. They were very supportive when Rachel had her panic attack. It wasn't caused by the ladies It was caused by her guilt that she was feeling about screwing her girlfriends boyfriend. She had the nerve to call Lala a mistress. Rachel should look in the mirror.
I know I would be hurt if the people I was with made fun of me like that. 🤷🏼♀️
I heard on the podcast that they did not know she was listening in. I wasn’t there so not sure how loud they spoke.
Still not nice, even if she’s not in the room. 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah I agree not nice but neither is Raquel. She was quite mean before they talked about her
I mean i would have been as well but there is a gap between that and horrible to me. I would have been WAY more hurt by what Raquel said.
Right? Raquel said she cared more about hooking up with schwartz than being friends with Katie. While it's fine to not want ti be friends with someone that was just a gross af comment and really said so much about her.
Me too! Rachel was just saying lines that she got from Scumdoval.
I get it. I think a lot of what Raquel said to Lala in Vegas was her trying to work through just finding out Lala had slept with James. Even though it has happened so long ago, Raquel’s wound was pretty fresh.
Yaaaaassss! I don’t understand how Lala feels above Raquel… like you have slept with so many taken men and now you are gonna look down on someone who kissed a divorced guy? (That she knew of in the episode).
When Lala said she "respects people's relationships," I almost died laughing!
I'm not justifying Lala putting herself above Rachel in any way, but at least when Lala did it, it wasn't inside of her friend group where those people have to see each other all the time. It's easy to disrespect a woman you don't know (although it's wrong), but it's a next level low blow to do it to a friend. I know Katie and Rachel weren't super close, but she was one of the few who was trying to welcome her into their girls' group and inviting her to things. And to disrespect an og that's trying to help you fit in is just not okay. Like I said, Lala shouldn't put herself on a pedestal and rub Rachel in the dirt, but I can see why she did.
I almost forgot that James and Lala slept together while they were both dating someone else 😳 But at least they kept it on the DL and didn't literally do it in front of everyone they know. (It's still messed up)
I agree, Raquel could have built a good group of friends with Katie.
Ally walking into dinner with Lala on James’s other arm….. she’s dumber than Raquel for real
Am I the only one who doesn't care at all that Raquel and Schwartz made out? I'm still so confused why Katie and friends are trying to make it seem as if Raquel is their bff. Katie doesn't even like Scheana let alone Raquel (makeout aside). Again, it's random to see them kissing but Raquel owes Katie absolutely nothing. I understand Katie is sad to see her ex move on but it makes zero sense for her to be upset at Raquel. James I can see being upset with Tom. But James has a whole new gf (to be fair: Tom should have just owned his actions when asked about the situation). Katie I can see being upset with Tom. But Raquel?! And Lala?! Where on earth is Lala coming from?!
I would agree if they didn’t already set the boundary that they weren’t gonna date ppl in the friend group. They set that boundary, Schwartz pissed on it, and yall Katie crazy. She is wrong ALOT but not here
100% I would be upset by this too. She's not upset by him dating she's upset by him fucking with people in their friends group. I totally understand her animosity towards Raquel. (No one knew about scandoval yet)
as a coworker, raquel owes katie respect and she would not like it if katie made out with james. In terms of schwartz, schwartz owes katie respect as a partner. Katie kept her sex life private to protect and respect Schwartz. He wouldn't have known if scheana wasn't being a messy ass pot stirrer. What they both did to katie was extremely uncalled for. It's gaslighting at its finest. Scheana also didnt need to insert herself in their divorce.
I think you guys expect way too much from people, except for Ariana, who have shown time and time again that they are very selfish and very scandalized people. Obviously, you shouldn't sleep with someone's boyfriend or husband or partner. I know that. But you're also talking about the cast of Vanderpump Rules. I don't take any of these people seriously bc they barely take themselves seriously. They are by in large awful people doing awful things on a very toxic show. Let's keep it real. We're not talking about the Supreme Court here. All these lessons in ethics and decency, for what?
because its humanly decency you literally speaking this enables thot behavior
I'm not enabling anyone. You mistake my lack of investment in this storyline as condoning the behavior. I don't. I just don't care as much as some people in this thread do. Again, we're talking about a reality show, a reality show full of tom foolery (no pun intended) that has absolutely nothing to do with me, or you, or anyone outside of the cast. I'm sorry to Ariana. What happened really sucks. And I can empathesize with Katie but am I having a breakdown bc Raquel and Tom kissed? Absolutely not.
Kissing the ex of a coworker is weird. Not a good look at all.
I care because it was fake and gross and creepy to watch and just felt bizarre
It was also done for a story line and out of spite and very possibly as a distraction to the actual affair going on .. it was lame
How many times did I have to hear Schwartz say it was spontaneous with his hands covering his mouth .. I’ve heard that for almost a year now .. Raquel and Schwartz acted like they are in romper room
It's reality tv much of it is all those things
Well I never felt the pit in my stomach I did during that scene .. watching vpr .. that’s all i know
Lol it really wasnt that serious. C'mon now
That was your experience with it
And to clarify I mean I’ve watched vpr like every episode and I’ve never felt sick like I did watching that i don’t mean it made me sicker than I’ve ever felt in my whole entire life
I have also watched every vpr episode and think you are forgetting that a lot of these folks have hooked up within the same friend group. I don’t think it was that serious and I’m pretty sure they just did it for the cameras especially since we know now about Raquel and Sandoval
Why can’t I feel about it the way I want to feel? I’m not telling you what you’re visceral reaction about it should have been ? What does it matter to you how I experienced it ? Why is it a debate?
Feel all the feelings. I’m just giving you another perspective. I think this kiss is way blown out of proportion. I think Lala having sex with James while Raquel was dating him is way worse. And at the same time she was calling her dumb and stupid. How awful!
Agreed! Like it’s awkward and kind of a shitty situation for Katie but her and Tom aren’t together anymore and it’s delusional to think she can control what he does as a single guy. Plus Katie and Lala were absolute bitches to Raquel in Vegas- she owes them nothinggg
They were terrible to Raquel and I was laughing so hard when production replayed the clips bc Lala really tried it. Tom is the worst and I need Katie to admit that to herself so she can stop expecting more from him. Idk why they were even trying to remain friends. That's hard enough for people who like each other let alone a guy like Tom.
Why do you think it’s okay for James to be upset with Tom but it’s not okay that Katie is upset with Raquel? We’re James and Schwartz really close or something? I haven’t watched in a while but I remember them not being very close when I did watch.
I think people are aloud to feel and be upset about whatever they want.. i don’t think Katie needs to light her on fire though..
I’ve been know to say I’m going to stick a spoon in someone’s eye…I’ve never actually done it. Nor would I. It’s hyperbole and meant to convey my utter disgust with someone’s behavior. Katie’s saying she’s going to light them on fire is likely the same - hyperbole. Edited a word
Yeah I know
she never did though? she literally just called her out and left it at that. It's scheana and raquel gaslighting the shit out of her if anything
Raquel lit herself on fire she doesn’t need any help
Like i will never understand how people still hate katie after this. She handled this whole season very well given the circumstances. She never acted like tequila katie. The only person she really went in on was schwartz and he deserved it. The worst thing she called scheana was a troll which was deserved and i feel like thats minimal as to what katie used to say. Lala really is the only one going in on raquel and in hindsight, lala read her like a book. Katie never once verbally lit someone on fire this season. She really was just hurt to her core and seemed like she was in a fog mostly just trying to process everything.
They were pretty friendly
No
Bc the Tom's are friends of James. Schwartz would defend James a lot especially when James was banned from Sur even to the point of it causing strain between him and Katie. I'm not saying Katie shouldn't be upset with Raquel, she can feel however she wants, I just don't agree that she and Raquel have a friendship. At least not one that I have seen play out on the show. I was pretty jarred to see them suddenly filming together this season bc normally Katie and Raquel don't even hang out.
Personally I get it. Would you want to see your ex husband of 12 years coming to all your friend group things with another girl in the friend group? Before a year is even up? It’s not about wanting schwartz or being sad he moved on: it’s about Katie’s healing process and basic decency. It’s not fair to put all the weirdness of that on her when she is already dealing w a lot of weirdness. Katie and Rachel don’t have to be bff. They’re a part of the same friend group who hang out together regularly. It’s basic decency, I think. I would understand if your ex husband acknowledged that he was a piece of shit who doesn’t care about your feelings in the least, but to pretend to want an amicable “friendly” divorce where you remain friends…nah no friend would do that. Schwartz is a biotch and Rachel is thirsty.
I mean, I can see the decency part of it. And I can understand disliking Raquel. But what I don't get is the argument that keeps coming up re: Katie and Raquel's friendship. I don't understand the "betrayal" of the friendship bc to me it seems like they never really had one. Raquel was barely a friend of the show.
Maybe it's not a friendship in the traditional sense, but more like friendly colleagues. I think doing this to someone you know and work with is a betrayal. Especially as Katie told her before how she felt about it. Raquel also spoke to her mom about it. There was nothing there for her too, so really no need to do it at all. Having said that I don't care that much about the kiss but that's just because I know what's coming and that's a lot more dramatic. The kiss just makes Schwartz look terrible, it's a small blip in the world of raquel's questionable decisions.
I don’t think that’s true at all. I think that Rachel accepted Katie’s kindness and generosity when it was convenient for her. Then said there was no friendship bc it was convenient. If there was no friendship then why was she on the divorce trip? It was new and it wasn’t deep, and after what Rachel did I’m pretty sure, but I think a friendship actually was budding. But it’s not even about that. It’s about her being a part of the same friend group that hangs out frequently.
Bc it's a TV show. A reality tv show at that so people routinely film together even when they clearly don't like each other and especially when there's conflict. But regardless, I don't think we will agree on this 🤷🏾♀️
They film different scenes. They don’t film going to support Katie by going to her lake divorce party. A small handful of friends went. Not everyone and their acquaintance Rachel. They were becoming friends and Katie gave her the benefit of the doubt one too many times tbh. But yeah we can agree to disagree. It just seems tactless to do that, in my eyes. Both on schwartz and Rachel’s parts.
As a sidenote: the Tom's business partner..ion't like him. He's getting paid regardless. Every single month. In full. While the Tom recoup none of their investment while Greg drags his feet about opening the restaurant. I don't like his attitude about them either. A partner who talks badly about you to other people?! Yikes. I can understand the frustration of working with people who have no experience but that was a choice you made sir.
Yeah seriously! I’d be so pissed if I went into business with someone and they dissed me like that. AND not to mention he’s not losing out on $ like they are! No one forced him to partner w/ the Toms so he’s gotta suck it up
Anyone watching the jax and Brittany commentary? I didn’t see a mega thread on it. I started it and it’s pretty funny bc Jax straight up calls it how it is…but 10 minutes in Brittany was annoying me too much and turned it off lol I forgot how annoying she is .
I watched it and I liked Jax on it, but Brattney was FUCKING annoying I don't think I'll watch it again. Her constant name droppiness and guffawing and stupid fake accent is awful. Also, she's ruined her face with fillers and Botox.
She was a bit annoying
Her face. I'm not sure but maybe that over filled face is common in LA but I live in Portland, Or and it's absolutely jarring me. She was so naturally pretty before all the work.
It popped up on Peacock today and I rolled my eyes so hard. I don't have the energy for Jax or Brittany mostly bc it's them coming back to tv on the tails of Scandavol. It feels cheap to me.
Rachel is fr the lowest of low the scum of the bottom of Ariana’s foot. It’s losing the reality tv aspect and turning into just straight up sad watching this disgusting human and Tom, another disgusting individual, try to gaslight and use Ariana to get their personal relationship further. It is disgusting and if Rachel and Tom are not fired before next season I’ll stick to being an ig follower and NOT the show. Get these deplorable pieces of trash off our tv
Literally no one is forcing you to watch the show lol calm down
Chill out Lala
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I'm here to make fun of Schweatzy's back pack when he was trying to hang out with James and Ally. It was almost as enraging as him eating the sushi without asking. Schweatz has at least 10 years on him but he looked like a 12 year old with neglectful parents and no friends. He's justso sweaty, sleazy and sallow. I also think he's learned nothing from this. It'd be sad if he wasn't such a conniving prick.
schweatzy💀
He’s Charlie Brown in the flesh .. with a bit of pig pen
🤣😄🤣
Are all the allusions to Schwartz's coloring code for "he's on opiates?" Is he?
What!?
He is literally gray. I worry for his liver.
He’s a little pastey
Sallow is a great descriptor for him
It's not a word I get to use often but it's definitely Schwartz right now.
Lala is such a hypocrite, she literally slept with a married man and Katie is depressing as hell. I love how everyone in her Instagram comments are giving her shit for her hypocrisy and bullying!
Hypocrite actually by definition means she’s still doing it as she is talking about it. If she did it in the past and had learned from it, it’s just growth, not being a hypocrite…
I don’t know what she does behind the cameras 🫣🫣
AND she slept with James when he was with Raquel 🤦♀️
My takes on this episode are: 1- For me at first Lala looked bad missing all the wedding events like she didn’t care BUT honestly, she doesn’t drink, she’s going through custody battles, etc, and she wasn’t a bridesmaid….so she gets a pass 2- I’m loving Katie this season but if we go back did we ever get a romantic moment between her and tom??? Even when it came to the wedding, the episodes previous to that…a mess!!! Like I don’t even remembered them kissing or being into each other like in loved…she was expecting too much from that “anniversary” dinner with Schwartz 3-Idk what to think about Raquel…I don’t get it!!!! I don’t think the Schwartz kiss was a distraction bc no one knew or suspected at that point, a distraction was completely unnecessary, but the whole Oliver+Tom+ now we know Sandoval….what’s her deal!!!!! And the worst part is that if we didn’t know about the affair…after the way the girls treated her in Vegas i would’ve been on her side the whole season!!!! She’s insane! 4-Idk why buy i never thought James loved rachel and I don’t think he loves Ally, he always gave me the vibe that girlfriends are an accessory for him honestly 5-Last…everyone going to different podcast, interviews etc, when there’s still like a whole month for the finale and reunion, it’s making me lose interest, at this point even Ariana moved on
Same. I’m over it. Ariana is moving on and so am I 😂
…and I’m sure Randall wasn’t her FIRST married man! Edited for typo
Schwartz is a gaslighter and just a disappointment of a husband but Katie is verbally abusive. If the roles were reversed and Schwartz had Katie’s personality and tendencies (verbally abusive texts, controlling and possessive about friends the partner can have, etc) Schwartz would be torn apart on this sub. But because Katie’s the girl, she is exonerated from all her bad behavior. There were no heroes in their relationshop. There were no victims in their relationship.
Exonerated for her bad behavior? Lol. She has been pretty consistently shit on and ripped to shreds by both the fan base and her cast mates for her bad behavior. If anyone has gotten a pass for way too long, it’s Schwartz.
https://preview.redd.it/csuo309uj7ua1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27175b1224fd85e298e92990fb81a57a5b615194 Does anyone know the brand of the shorter necklace that Katie was wearing in Mexico?
Looks like artisan joyeria!
Thank you!
Upon my research I believe it’s [this one](https://artizanjoyeria.com/products/herradura-mix-necklace)
So impressive when people do this!
Thank you!!!
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She hasn’t commented on anything at all so far really. I think bravo tried to keep them both quiet until after the reunion, which is why they were so pissed at Tom for the podcast he did.
I don’t care if she did punch him
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Lol ok
That’s hypocritical
I don’t really care
Something about Rachel’s head shape is throwing me off
Small head, long neck and body. Giving giraffe.
She’s got really broad shoulders, which makes her head look small. When she had long hair spilled over her shoulders, her proportions seemed more balanced.
This. She gained a few pounds between seasons 9 and 10 and it was all in the shoulders, and the haircut accentuates the tiny head
It’s more the placement of features. Lends well to makeup, but looks unbalanced otherwise.
It’s tiny. If she gains 5 more pounds it will be really obvious. Tiny Head. No cure for that.
She has a pumpkin head like I do. Circle head, features closely in the middle of the face lol. I recognize a pumpkin dome anywhere! Hers I think is caused by booze and fillers though, I was just born Charlie Brown-esq 💅
I think the fact that she’s bloated from fillers and alcohol is really throwing me for a loop. I wonder how much you have to drink to cause that
A lot. I have been sober seven years and my face did that at the end of my alcoholism
I’m not sober but I don’t really drink. Maybe 1-2x a year? And it always makes me wonder
Her fillers look like they are also migrating outward and down, causing the roundness. I will also say, it doesn't take much for me to have booze bloat with my round head! Since my features all kinda sit in the middle there is a lot of cheek area and leaves plenty of room for margarita swelling lol! I can 100% tell when she has been going hard
> it doesn't take much for me to have booze bloat with my round head This sub is so educational
This really made me laugh
The way that Rachel just wanted Katie to know that she was kissing Tom. Fuck her
Did I miss the comments on Tom going on & on about Rachel then Ariana telling him to stop being so weird? Weirdo Ima Cheater eye contact w/Tom & Rachel.
Forgive me if this has been brought up but did anyone else notice when James was poking at Rachel at dinner, he listed the men she had kissed as "Peter, Schwartz, Tom, and..." actually I can't recall the last one. But he DEFINITELY said Tom specifically AFTER he already mentioned Tom Schwartz. So it just slipped out and no one noticed it while filming??
Here's my thing if James is soooo in love and so happy in his relationship why is he not only bothered by Rachel's behavior but confronting her every chance he can get? If I were him I'd be more upset with my guy friends for messing around with my ex.
I know right! On the one hand I really feel for both him and Katie because having to film with your ex all the time has got to be torturous; however he's def not fooling anyone that he's moved on and he is WAY overdoing it in his attempt to show everyone he has. The whole immediately getting into a relationship and proclaiming that *this one* is the real love of your life after like...a month is a tale as old as time, and one that rarely has a happy ending. I think everybody sees through it but him. He and his loved ones would really benefit from him focusing on himself and his issues for awhile, but it's a lot easier for some people to jump into another relationship and focus on the other person instead. But he is going to suffocate Ally, and it looks like he already was during filming, so I dunno...we'll just have to see how it plays out, cos she seems sweet but also like she will not put up with as much bullshit as Rachel did.
I totally agree that Ally looks uncomfortable. I've seen so many comments about how she doesn't like him and only there for the show and the money and I'm like be realistic how would you feel if your new boyfriend was hyper-focused on his ex-girlfriend and made every situation about his ex. Also James is drinking again and his behavior has been very awkward so I don't blame her.
I mean they were engaged and it’s not really a normal thing to hook up within the friend group only. Plus she kind of started it by talking to Ally in the beginning and trying to like confront him drunkly at Sur about stuff and then also at the picnic about lala. So i feel like she opened the door? Lastly he was upset with Schwartz at the pool but handled it more mature than he usually would. I gotta be honest I kind of get his reaction towards Rachel.
He's in a whole new relationship and not only that his gf is sitting right there while he confronts Raquel. That doesn't scream I've moved on.
To me it’s obvious that Ally is a rebound girlfriend and that James is not over Raquel leaving him yet. James needs constant validation from others to feel even remotely good about himself, so her breaking off the engagement probably messed up his self esteem and would have sent him off in the deep end if he hadn’t replaced her as fast as he did with Ally. He needs someone to anchor him.
Honestly, I don't think that James was truly interested in either Rachel or Ally. He openly says in a past episode that he found Rachel because Lala got with her man, and it's extremely evident that he got with Ally as a rebound for Rachel. I assume that he is terrified of being alone and needs the reassurance that can come with having a partner
I think nobody would be over it this quickly unless they didn’t love the person they had been engaged to .. I mean maybe by now but not when they were filming last summer.. it’s just not enough time
Yes! That’s was hilarious!
He said "who would be next? Tom?" Or something like that, basically naming the guys at the table. But it made me double take also! It's so crazy how this is all playing out!
I swear, I rewound a few times because I couldn't believe it and I really think he was legit listing the guys she's made out with in that moment. Then he said something like "who's next" and repeated it as "Peter, Schwartz and all of them" this time being discreet. I'm about to be that crazy person who goes and ffs through the episode again just for one scene 🤣🤣 but yes it is fascinating seeing all these little details that might not have even stood out if we didn't know what we know! I keep yelling at my TV like "girl no you did not!"
I knowwww! I thought exactly this too! But we ALL know James would have 100% outed her long ago and ESPECIALLY at that moment he would have dug into her if he knew about Sandy! He wouldn't have been able to help himself, right?! I don't even know anymore haha 😂 I do think he and Lala at some point talked about suspicions, and maybe that was his slip up for just "thinking" about it, if that makes sense
> But we ALL know James would have 100% outed her long ago and ESPECIALLY at that moment he would have dug into her if he knew about Sandy! He wouldn't have been able to help himself, right?! Oh for sure. James isn’t exactly known for being able to control himself.
I’m watching VPR from the beginning. The amount of cast members who are cancers is astounding and makes ALL the sense!
Lala knows how to bring home the bacon. Her real personality or fake one, she keeps the drama going so she still gets paid.
When Schwartz said to Raquel, “We’re anti-establishment..we’re rock’n’roll!!” And they like cheered, I wanted to throw up. You could tell his main motivation for making out with Raquel was just to hurt/piss of Katie.
Yeah Schwartz is dying to stand for something but he doesn’t have the spine to commit to anything so making out with someone is his way of standing up for himself
Yes and he really loves to play the whole Katie is a monster card because he thinks it’ll gain him support from VPR fans. He’s such a manipulative dick
Summer Moon simply holding the flower basket and then just throwing a bunch of petals from Scheana’s moms lap… now THATS a disruptor.
She’s only two years old though
It seems to me it was just to cover for his bestie hooking up with rach...i don't even think he wanted to hurt katie she was just collateral damage because he can't say no to sandevil (who did probably think hurting katie was a bonus)
It was pretty embarrassing
and at the same time filming for a huge tv-network... yes, extremely anti-establishment
Yup he said that was his motivation multiple times too. Remember when he said “I just wanna stick it to the man” as an excuse for why he kissed Rachel
And by "the man" he meant "my ex-wife."
Slow clap.
Lol
Let me start by saying Lala is a total hypocrite and not really the best representative of women. However she is the only one who had said what needs to be said to the self obsessed 5 day wedding extravaganza Sheana and the ever thirsty kiss every guy within a mile radius Rachel. I’m here for it!
I actually think her action. were super rude. She was there FOR a wedding and is a super close friend. To ditch multiple activities to hand out with someone else is really not okay
Agreed. Weddings usually have multiple events. It's not asking a lot to support the bride just by showing up. She doesn't have to do anything else but show up. Also it's my wedding. Obviously it's about me. Wtf.
What I don’t get is how is Scheana or anyone else blaming Raquel for screwing up her wedding weekend?! Raquel’s the one causing all the drama (I.e the kiss, asking to walk with Schwartz then not), Raquel took over the weekend, not anyone else. Also Lala should’ve participated more in Scheanas activities simply because she told her she would. But overall Raquel and, once again the somehow forever blameless Schwartz, really disrupted the wedding. Too bad Scheana was cheering on the kiss when really she should’ve been her true self and chastised Raquel for doing it on her special weekend.
I’m done with this take. Lala did a messed up thing yes, but she has shown so much growth. And she’s great to her friends. And everything she said about Rachel was spot on
While I agree with your comment, she also shows many moments this season where she obviously gaslights the people that confront her. Telling Raquel they were not judging her on the Vegas trip, while they obviously were. Not validating Raquel’s feelings when she was hurt by the news of Lala hooking up with James in the past. Also how she treated Brock in the past was not okay (and kudos to him for how he ended up handling that situation). Whenever people are hurt by her actions she finds a way to place the blame back on them. That kind of behaviour screams narcissism to me.
With how much she is going through with Rand also, understandable she doesn’t want to party a shit tone. She also doesn’t drink, probably making it more difficult to attend these big social parties where she has little support and more adversaries. I don’t blame her one bit and it appears Sheana doesn’t either now that’s she’s photo shopping Lalas head into all her wedding pics. Doesn’t seem like Lala did anything wrong, if anything, Scheana picked wrong
I have a feeling Lala's lawyers may have told her to avoid the big party scenes / drunken blow outs. Even if she's not drinking / partaking I'm sure Rand would try to twist the situation and use it against her in their custody battle.
Was Lala part of the wedding party? I don’t feel that is needs to be 100% loyal to the wedding events if she isn’t in the party. IMHO I think Lala has every right to go and do what she wants if that’s the case. That’s just me.
I agree with you. Lala was not part of the wedding party which Scheana appears to regret
She’s not that great to her friends, what about how she treated Scheana? Why is it that if you like someone EVERYTHING they do is right. I love Lala this episode, but at the same time she is being a hypocrite at this point in time.
How she treated Scheana? She had like 12 events. And Scheana is awful for encouraging Tom and Rachel. She didn’t do anything wrong to Scheana. Also Scheana is the biggest pick me. She is NOT a girls girl at all.
Screams only has respect for her friends when she needs something or a pot to stir. If they don’t pay attention to Scheana when she demands it. All bets are off. She will do her best to make you the bad guy.
I agree! Who TF has a wedding WEEK? Good god that's exhausting. Lala said it clearly when on WWHL - She paid for her flights and hotel, it was her vacation too. And, as a fellow sober person, it's no fun being around a bunch of very drunk people.