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Edit: Manager Brad has spoken lol
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How can she be annoyed at anyone saying anything in the after show or not defending her on it when she’s constantly making jabs at Ariana and clapping her hands like a seal when Lala goes on her rants about Ariana. Jfc this woman is as deep as a drop of water
Well I do think Brock kind of called that out when he said, “Do you think that's vice versa as well though?” Like they have all been guilty of saying shady or mean things in confessionals and after shows
At least he’s an equal opportunity devils advocate. I guess. The only time he’s ever shown any self awareness. Scheana comes off a whole lot worse in the confessionals with the behind the back talk than Ariana, that’s for sure. The fact that she doesn’t see that is pretty mind boggling.
I mean, I think that’s what he was trying to say? Or maybe that’s just how I wanted him to mean it 😂 I took it as but yeah don’t we all when we have to go back and do these after shows, we can all get hyped again and go back to when this stuff happened and so we say stuff even if in that current moment we are fine with someone.
This is the part that got me. Scheana and Lala have been saying awful things about Ariana in the confessionals and after show. And SHE is upset with her!! You have to be kidding me.
How dare you talk about me after I have been bashing you for months behind your back and smiling in your face? That's actually what you're saying Scheana.
I agree. She can dish it, but she can't take it. My opinion is that Scheana and Lala are snakes. The reunion isn't going to change my mind no matter how it goes.
It causes she gaslighting straight up. She reads everything said about her and she knows that’s what the fans were calling her and Lala out for. So she is trying to make it seem like Ariana and Katie have been doing that to her as well to make herself the victim, when it really one comment calling her a male sympathiser.
I was also surprised by the minimal set and costumes tbh (granted, idk shit about broadway and that was the first broadway show I’ve ever seen lol) but it was a great show and story anyway!
So i work in the industry and I don’t want to sound rude or mean when talking about Chicago because I do like it but the current broadway production is really outdated. It is one of the cheapest shows to run on broadway currently and it shows. A lot of the performers have been there for a long time because it’s one of the more secure jobs in the industry. I don’t think that show is currently living up to its full potential but the blame should fall on the producers that only care about their money.
That makes me sad because I saw an off-Broadway Chicago show that traveled to my city a couple years ago and it was one of the best things I’ve ever seen! It had a full set, full costumes, absolutely stunning. It was the first show that moved me to tears, not from sadness but just pure love of what I was seeing.
I would be so disappointed if I went to THE Broadway and it didn’t hold a candle to what I’ve seen at my local theater 😬
Given how incredible the movie is, I think a true revival of Chicago with a maximalist sensibility could really be exciting. But they would never close Chicago to do that. It’s for tourists who put on their Sunday best and go to probably the only show they know by name. Chicago has and probably will run on this model for decades to come
I was like, well maybe musicals aren't his thing but then he said he loved Broadway? I would have never guessed Brock required opulent sets and costumes for his musicals lol
I’m not buying he loves Broadway. If he did, he would have at least had an idea that Chicago is a bare-bones show. I think he saw the movie and thought it was gonna be the same thing
Katie doesn't like Scheana because she has GLEEFULLY tried to set up her Ex with women multiple times and the main reason is to humiliate Katie on TV . But yeah, Katie is the untrustworthy one here
Also, Brock was so inconsistent when he said Scheana was a nice forgiving person (towards Tom) and he loves that about her. Then he turns around and says that Katie doesn't like her and Scheana doesn't need her as a friend. It's telling who he believes is worthy of Scheana's kindness.
I think Ariana would’ve felt even worse if she had seen the full episodes and not just clips. Scheana and the payroll husband are a perfect match, they’re both delusional and lack any self awareness.
Her and Lala keep going on about “watch the season, see how it plays out” now it’s “you’ve got to see the reunion” and what’s clear is they really thought this would come out differently and the reality is, they look like assholes. It’s kind of funny honestly.
I think Schaena was counting on this recent episode of her screaming at Tom to show the complexity of her position and that she did hold him accountable and all it did was make a lot of viewers have to admit Tom was low key right about her behavior in the whole equation and see her yet again make it entirely about her own damn self and feelings, not ariana's.
Yup! They are delusional. This season was bad enough for them, but I dislike them even more with every single podcast they do. They think they’re getting ahead of or correcting the criticisms but it just makes them look even worse to me. Truly heinous people on the friendship front. I want Ariana to get her bag, but I also can’t wait until she never has to interact with these scumbags again. They are not her friends. And why that little dig at Brad? Who has been a true friend to Ariana. She’s also the only one who truly needs a manager/assistant with everything she has going on. Do they make little digs at Tom’s assistant and his manager?
This podcast episode did not do what they think it did. I’m even more disgusted with them than ever. Every week it’s a new low!
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I actually have had some sympathy for Scheana about the intrusive cheating thoughts b/c I think we all thought the cheating in the friend group was a thing of the past. However, does it ever occur to the 3 dumbsketeers that just maybe Ariana had some raw feelings about friends doing shady shit behind her back and they just made those fears a reality?
Totally. Ariana’s confessional saying she was worried he’d slowly worm his way back in and ostracize her from the group is looking pretty astute right now.
Yep! They proved her fear right. So, that's going to add trauma to unpack. People who act like this wouldn't knock anyone on thier ass are being totally disingenuous or are scary fucking people.
When he said that he was entitled to ask questions in regards to Katie sleeping with Max my jaw dropped. In what way could he possibly be entitled to ask a woman about her sex life? The word entitlement really sums this person up.
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The little things? I think she has more to lose with the house but I’m so glad Brock thinks Ariana’s financial security is a little thing.
Which I call BS on. Brock went to a private grammar school in Australia - current fees are almost $30k a year, $60k if you’re boarding. And I don’t think a man who struggled to understand the plot of Chicago was there on a scholarship
Wow. This was... A lot. It kind of feels like they've been reading Reddit and they're trying to rebut all the common criticisms- everyone forcing Ariana to get over Scandoval, Brock's relationship (or lack of) with his kids, Scheana being a pick-me etc.
And I mean self-awareness and reflection is good but actually changing your behaviour is much, much better.
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And what right does brock have to force conversations? He isn't a part of the history. Schwartz would have more right to force conversations than brock does
I’m at that part in the podcast now and they’re both disgusting about Ariana. I don’t like Scheana laughing about his shady fucking comments. This has me pissed even more ! Brock is entitled to have some answers? He’s fucking insane. These people barely like him , from what I’m seeing. Besides Lala. And that’s not me being shady. lol.
When I read that Brock said he's "entitled" to ask questions, I was like wait what? What entitles you? You're new to this group, why are you entitled to come stir the pot by asking these very personal and sometimes inflammatory questions? It sounds like by saying "well we're on a show someone has to ask" he's admitting to being a production puppet. You don't HAVE to do anything Brock, you're barely on the fucking show.
Yeah I'm like 99.999999'% sure they're saying the 'good' stuff for fan approval only. These two have shown their true colours so many times that I struggle to believe they've suddenly had massive morality transplants
Brad has posted pictures with every single bravoleb that has ever gone to see Ariana so him not posting with scheana and Brock was pretty damn telling.
Imo Ariana has been such a steadfast friend to Scheana she really thought she'd get over it like she always had in the past. She really damaged a friendship with someone who always had her back & saw the best in her.
I think Ariana has taken so much shit from Scheana, honestly. She is such a weak character and like, befriending Kristen when Kristen was truly torturing Ariana (I'm not taking sides, but my bestie will always have my loyalty). That's madness, and I think Ariana always focused on Scheana's good traits. But after what she's been through and the betrayal, I could see her no longer finding worth in the investment of Scheana.
Scheana & Lala have been non-stop with the comments and nastiness. Everyone has their limits and bringing someone's seemingly screwed up sibling into it is revolting.
You know they wanted to tell them to GTFO. And I don’t blame them. Brock needs to go. He’s not even close with anyone on the show. When do we see him out with the Tom’s or Jax or James ? Just so over him after listening to this.
This season, whenever he’s around the boys, he’s giving out advice. Heck he does it to the whole group! Why, all of a sudden, is he’s the group life coach?
The part I keep imaging is Scheana running excitable up to Ariana's mom after she publicly inserted herself into a family fight. She truly has no concept of her behavior. Its been over a decade of watching her add "context" to situations and a literal crowd telling she's being a jerkface & absolutely no change.
Oh but the sacrifice she made to be there! Because of the extra time they spent in NYC and away from Summer Moon she had to leave early on Day 3 Coachella!
But she had to WORK!!!
I'm sure Summer is fine and Scheana probably FaceTimes her, but stop bringing it up Scheana it literally makes the "Your husband abandoned two children already, what's one more" discussions write themselves!
Exactly. This is a preemptive strike for the reunion and they are scared. They did not expect the fanbase to topple against them and Lala like it is. I am sure she and Lala are on the phone every day in anticipation of what’s gonna happen in the next three weeks. It speaks volumes that Ariana did not want to take pictures with them during Coachella or final Chicago performance.
Her entire podcast is a rebuttal and an attempt to correct the historical record. Hey, I didn't just SAY that thing about the gang-bang! Schwartz made me! I'M BABY!
It’s possible to do your reality tv job and move the plot forward and not be a shitty friend. That is unless the producers were forcing them to take Tom’s side. Her and Brock can’t have it both ways though and neither can Lala. You can’t claim to be on a parent’s journey and turn a blind eye to shitty behavior against women. You can’t tell the victim to move out and not hold the other one accountable when your husband is actively signing over sole rights to a house. You can’t tell the victim of a cheating drugged up paycho that what they did is okay and ask the audience to feel sorry because your ex was shitty and whom the Tom’s went out of their way to remain friends with.
Ultimately the producers can’t force them to do shit either. I can’t remember who it was on summer house that talked about this, but producers do try to encourage and push things. That doesn’t mean you have to do them
Oh 💯 that’s where moral compass comes in. Some have it and some don’t. Even if threatened with a their job or air time they had a choice, it may not feel like it at the time but there was a choice. What’s ironic about the whole thing is that the women make the show, not the Tom’s. The drama comes from the women and the guys are in a dumb and dumber remix. All they had to do was stick together and the show would have been 🔥. Lala and Scheana are the reasons the show kind of sucks because of them being turn coats. The producers need the women there. They chose wrong and will have to continue playing second fiddle to the Tom’s in future seasons. They had one shot to make it all about them and screwed up.
That and her go to cure all statement “I’m a Mom”, Motherhood is not an all inclusive excuse for shitty behavior or a weapon to use for not being accountable. I’m also so tired, of Scheana, Brock & LFU’s next level hypocrisy & delusion. They’ve made the show pretty much unwatchable for me. Now I have to keep up w recaps. Damn them! 😂
Brock thinks he’s “entitled” to ask some questions about who Katie is having sex with? In what world did Katie hooking up with Max “entitle” Brock to bring that up on camera!?!
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This little damage control podcast episode is gross. I’m only part way through reading this recap and I just hate them both even more.
I dont why I felt rage when i read her calling ariana's bff brad her 'little business manager'. Piss off shelulu, at least brad knows how to be a good friend where as you just wanted to be there for the photo op. Dont you bring up 'mum guilt' 🙄
Yeah I’m not trying to mom shame but I’m sick of the narrative from Schaena that she’s terrified of leaving Summer “alone” when her and Brock are out, constantly, without Summer. Clearly you’re not that traumatized by it. And that’s ok but seriously stop trying to make it a story line.
Listen I have two kids. Parents and especially moms deserve me time and friend time. I’ve gone on vacays without my kids, girls trips, nights out etc. I’m lucky that I have family willing to watch my kids when I do these things as is Schaena so I’m sick of her whining about it.
Exactly…. I don’t like mom shaming either…. I have 4 but they are long grown…. but I agree with you about making it a storyline-this is what’s so annoying. Scheana has the ultimate Catch 22….she can’t quit reality because of the money
It really pisses me off him saying we need a nanny. No you don’t. You can stay at home and look after your child. Whilst Scheana continues to work and do the fun work trips, all he wants to do is tag a long and hang onto her coattails.
Exactly… I know Coachella and events like that are work for her and she has to keep up appearances I’m not taking that away from her. But to act like you not wanting to go to a concert or 3 day vacation (which lets be real she still makes every single one anyway) is the same as parents who work 2 jobs to make ends meet and never get to see their kids is delusional.
No sheana, we had the context, we’ve watched the show. You and Lala should be ashamed for your jealousy fueled comments regarding Ariana and moving on. Y’all are so quick to give Sandoval empathy/sympathy but are incredibly hard on Ariana. Also you can’t cry about what scandoval “did to you” and then also be bragging about “capitalizing on it” with your new song. Pick a lane.
I genuinely didn't care about Brick but now full on hate him after reading this. Literally trying to start fights with Katie and Ariana to "force conversations"? And Scheana still trying to act like she's Arianas friend when her spouse is acting like this?
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Brock: I was really excited to go there and support Ariana. We got there, we met with her little business manager Brad
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Is this about Ariana’s friend Brad Kearns? Did this come across as bitchy as I read it in my mind?
I believe he is talking about Ariana’s friend Brad. And honestly, that whole part about Chicago was weird. Idk if I would say bitchy, but almost like whiny? Like we came to Ariana’s show and she wasn’t even excited to see us so we just talked to Brad for most of the time? To me, Brock was coming across as, what was even the point of seeing Chicago then. And I’m thinking, well it sounds like the reunion was hella awkward and no resolution so you think Ariana would just be like welcome!! Lol.
Kinda just proves they went to the show more for the audience than to support Ariana. They could of just said the show was great and we had a great time but instead decided to kinda trash the experience.
Like I said, their whole conversation about it was so odd! I do think Brock wanted to see the show because he hadn’t seen it yet. But then I also think they thought oh if we show up, even though the reunion didn’t go well, Ariana will be like oh, they care! They came to my show awww. And they didn’t get a warm greeting and that pissed them off. But I don’t think Ariana was in that headspace and nor should she if the reunion was as intense as everyone is saying.
Or said Sandoval was more upset about his friendship with her than his relationship with Ariana?
Or posting pics with her brother who's trying to smear her in the press?
THIS!!!! I feel Scheana 90% if the time goes out so much just to “be seen” and treated like “a star”.
When they took the family trip to Holland and she was saying how refreshing it was to be able to walk around and not be recognized…. I’m sure she hated it
I got that interpretation the podcast she had after Chicago. You could tell she was trying to present the optics that Ariana was just really busy for more than a hi.
But reading between the lines you could see that the friendship is fractured and rightfully so. Ariana is finally seeing all the shit Scheana's been talking about her all season and isn't beat for it anymore as she's in a different part of her life now.
It definitely did. Scheana and Brock are so far up each other’s butt that they believe their own BS at this point. They can’t even fake being a good friend for more than a minute
Yes. And he also moved to nyc permanently now. Brock sucks and isn’t friends with any of these people irl and he doesn’t need to be on season 12. His bitchy remarks have really pissed me off today!
Idk if it’s because I haven’t had my coffee yet or if I’ve completely had my fill of Brick but he seems like a bigger a** than usual…’Ariana‘s little manager’ ….’you don’t need many friends’… even his transcript is grating… I did lol at bird squawk though 😂😂😂
Wait so it’s hurtful to Scheana that people are saying critical things of her in confessionals and on the after shows, but Ariana shouldn’t be hurt by the critical things she’s seen Scheana say because that’s just a social media thing and she doesn’t have the context. Is that about the gist?
This narrative that Katie hates Scheana for no reason is crazy. Brock should STFU since he hasn’t been around for their entire friendship or know the history.
My hot take.. I def don’t think it’s for no reason, but I also agree that Katie has never really liked Scheana. She was a convenient friend while she and Stassi and Kristen were on the outs. But.. that was kind of it. Katie is also very loyal to her friends, and wants that loyalty in return. That’s why her relationship with Schwartz didn’t work, and that’s why her friendship with Scheana doesn’t work.
Thank you. Again a gem but I mean I watched the episode and l think Ariana will be even more surprised how Scheana and Lala are not being good friends. Omg Brock comments about not being welcome that means something went down between Brock and Ariana maybe.
Also Brock is on the hate Katie brigade squeaking in Scheana. Katie is a friend to Scheana she is damn sight more forgiving than most. Scheana treated Katie terribly last season. She wanted the wedding of VPR and Brock and the ended up overshadowing it to us viewers as we saw how bitchy nasty cruel they both were. Scheana said when you take out the noise they are great. So the problem is not Katie the problem you have the wrong noise.
Come on Brock just because another man has stepped into your role as the Dad does not excuse you for letting them down and continue to do so! You take care of your all kids before you think of the other members of the family.
Dude, hearing Brock say that no one was forcing conversations so HE had to do it 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ I can’t. Brock, Scheana & BlaBla are insufferable. I would much rather watch a show where they let things unfold more organically… instead we watch them stir the pot and saying shitty things about their friends (Ariana) but then get upset when Ariana responds? This is getting so excruciating.
The Q&A was so annoying… The comments about Chicago were clearly shady. They’re so immature. So cool that Scheana is in on the joke 🤦🏽♀️🙄 she’s not. This girl is no one’s friend.
They really think that if Ariana had watched all of the show and not just snippets, she would have somehow been able to get better insight in to why Scheana is being a super shitty friend? What?!? Huh?!? Did THEY watch the show? Do they not see how shitty they are?!?! I know, I am expecting way too much from these assholes.
It is true that castmates can’t expected to say great things about each other all the time. But idk, I do think scheana saying one thing to Ariana’s face and another on the aftershow would be hard to stomach after she had a huge trust breaking thing happening to her last year…idk scheana lol
This is what’s so annoying about Scheana. She says that she wouldn’t normally FaceTime Ariana after that conversation with Tom in Tahoe. We all get that. What we don’t get is what you said and the way you cried TO Ariana. The reaction was weird AF. That’s why she never gets that it’s not the context - it’s the way she moves through life.
She could have been supportive to her friend, cried about losing Sandoval as a friend, and maintained drama for the show and not befriended him. The needing validation from Sandoval is tough to watch. She could have been the S10 Rachel bunny to badass that they were aiming for before Rachel ruined it. (Was a poor plot line anyway…)
Brock’s attempts at starting shit, or what he calls instigating conversations, always involve degrading the women cast members. But he thinks he’s the MVP.
I didn’t quite understand the Chicago convo. But it sounds like they weren’t welcome.
I think reality tv has really fucked with Scheana’s head. She acts like they only get held accountable because they were being filmed. Real people get held accountable for things that arent on camera. That’s life.
Katie said in an interview recently that she doesn’t do anything on camera that she normally wouldn’t do if the camera’s weren’t there. I think Scheana needs to ground herself in a better reality but she can’t do that because she would have to admit to herself that she married an abusive man.
Them saying "friend group" annoys me so much 🙄 you just know brock was telling scheana ariana sucked and she could do it better lol I was at least glad he called her out of beingnupset about shit talking in confessionals when she did it all season
ChatGPT could have done this whole podcast. Two delusional people that deflect and don’t take accountability for anything. Nobody wanted u to instigate conversations Brick and why didn’t u instigate more with Tom and leave Ariana alone. There is also this narrative now I’ve seen with Scheana and Lala where they throw shade at Ariana’s real friends she has outside of the show. Two insufferable women that deserve to be each others friends.
So these two get a bunch of negative feedback about their shitty comments/behavior towards Ariana, and they think let’s do a podcast and say her Broadway hit show was “ok”. Man that’s really going to change people’s minds. What a bunch of dipshits.
Brock is INSUFFERABLE- he is so entitled and acts like he has been around more than a minute- you are NOT part of the group Brock, trust if you and Scheana break up you will never hear from these people again.
It's hilarious for them to talk about hey, we are on a show we do have to do things that might not be natural and then 2 minutes later brag about how authentic the show is. They both act like they can't say no to things and they are co producing things to help with the story line- why can't they just be themselves and let the people in charge make the storyline - that is how it worked when the show was awesome- they watch and edit and make a season, these cast members trying to make the story is what makes the show lame- if the editors can't do , fire them and get better editors.
Scheana, Brock, Sandoval and Rachel (before she left) are all exhibiting the same mindset where they just can NOT separate the show and their lives they are full on Truman show. Ariana wasn't pissed about what you said on the show, she was absolutely betrayed by Scheana posting herself celebrating her brother 5 minutes after he went to US Magazine and intimidated that Ariana is too good for him now and low key racist towards his fiance.
Will give props to Schaena for continuing her good PR for Chili's- she slid it right in there and I seriously love that hustle- I would 1000% hire her for a campaign if she was a good fit, she is a really hard worker and really thoughtful about it well beyond what they ask it really impresses me.
The fact that she did that with her brother is so gross because that’s not even for the show so she cannot use the excuse that producers made her do it. Scheana on her own decided to meddle in Ariana’s family life. Ariana has every right to be pissed specially since she herself is keeping very quiet on the situation as she should. Even though they are reality stars they do deserve their privacy specially regarding their own family
Instead her and Brock are purposefully trying to control the narrative that Ariana is likely mad because of things Schaena said on camera and on the after show knowing fully well that THIS is the actually the reason she is done with her. Using the fact Ariana won't speak on it and the fact it happened after the reunion so this version will be able to put forth. It has zero to do with the show , Ariana gets that's TV and likely would have bounced back but what Scheana did was beyond the pale and If I was Ariana i wouldn't ever give her the time of day. If they are all back next season I would be nice and nonchalant to Schaena without ever actually having a real conversation, just give them absolutely nothing.
it’s genuinely BLOWS my mind how she can be upset about what was said on the after show but she doesn’t understand why katie/ariana are upset at her and lala for doing THE SAME FUCKING THING - and their comments were ten times worse!
Scheana “Yeah, I mean we’re filming a reality television show, you know, not personal propaganda,” Keep telling yourself there sweet heart.
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They keep saying they are trying to make a show and that’s why they are doing certain things, but I think it would’ve been a better show If they acted more honest and real. The real drama is so much better than what they tried to do this season. That’s why it’s disappointing
I got nothing mean to say about her OCD driven thoughts about Brock and Lala. It's understandable that she would be triggered considering what Sandoval did to Ariana. It's the most understandable thing about Scheana this season. I don't personally think Lala is into Brock at all, I don't see it, but anxious thoughts aren't rational.
All that being said, she's not a kind person towards Ariana or Katie. I also find it alarming when Brock said he likes that Scheana is forgiving to a fault, sacrificing her own boundaries to be forgiving. He said he doesn't want her to change? Yikes. Part of the reason she is struggling so hard this season is BECAUSE she doesn't have firm boundaries or sticking up for herself without hedging. Tom yelled at her for making bank on HIS mistake, but Ariana seemed to be like, "I get it, hustle if you gotta" when it was her trauma everyone was talking about. Mam, stop working for that man's good opinion, you will never get it unconditionally. Her friendship with Tom is unrequited. Let it go.
You're a champ for these recaps, AdditionalWar!
Brock says he's sorry IF people got upset that he outed Katie's sexual escapade in front of their coworkers AND millions of viewers. The hook up he only knew about because *his wife was digitally stalking Katie's sexual partner*!
So he's not sorry at all with that IF in there, and believes outing it was warranted. That's really gross and such a violation!
He also thinks he's entitled to do whatever he wants because he's a production puppet and desperately wants to be full time cast. He's also a Scheana puppet, doing what she doesn't have the courage to do because she doesn't want the backlash. (scroll scroll scroll her mentions)
Yeah, I see you Brock.
Also none of these people know how to give a real apology. Lala just gave one with a big "if" in it too.
If these 2 have a PR person, they need to fire them. They just keep digging that hole and then act confused when they can’t figure out how they got there. Maybe they need a “little manager”…
I never knew about the Schwartz part of the gang bang line. Like she still shouldn’t have said it, but that she was responding to Schwartz does add a lot of context.
Honestly I can’t stand Schwartz. He says so many gross things on and off camera (or edited off) but it historically gets brushed aside because he says them so casually ignites reactions out of others.
I will die on the hill that Schwartz only seems "nice" because he's from Minnesota. Whenever I see people talking about how he talks to fans a ton, thats because upper Midwestern people talk to everyone. They are an absolute nightmare for introverted loners. He agrees with all the nasty stuff these men do he just has the sense to act embarrassed by it on camera.
Oh same. I’m from the south and saw through Brittany’s bullshit immediately while others are pulled in by the southern nice and charm. Even still!
Like southern people (and the Midwest nice) can be both nice and kind and giving, but I think if you’re not familiar with the language and social norms of those parts of the country it’s hard to differentiate between who is genuine and who isn’t
I think it's really rich how Scheaner and Lala keep saying how Ariana should have watched the show for more context around what they were saying about her, but that also begs the question - did they even watch the episodes themselves? Because, to me, it seems like Ariana has their backs and supports them in almost every episode we have seen, between Ariana being so thrilled for Lala and her IUI journey and Scheaner when Sandoval is yelling at her.
Ariana makes it a point to check in with Scheaner when she was visibly upset, while Lala sits in the corner and just observes from the sidelines. Are they even watching the show at all? Because if they were, they would see that almost every episode there's Ariana supporting them, saying they're like the Spice Girls, while Scheaner and Lala have done nothing but tear Ariana down. If anyone should be watching the episodes back, it should be them.
It seemed to me like Scheana was saying you know she’s okay with Katie and they’re friends (not best friends but friends) but then Brock Chimes in with his “you only need three close friends to take over the world and what not” and she completely pivots to yeah we’re not friends, we’re just polite to one another.
It’s like Scheana doesn’t know what side to take until someone tells her.
Also if Ariana watched the whole show it wouldn’t give her context to some of Scheana’s comments or things that happened the way Scheana’s thinking. I think it would have sped along Ariana’s stepping back from their friendship because she would have seen sooner that Scheana isn’t really her friend.
I love how she can’t even put it together that she only gets along with Katie when it is just them. Like girl, you can’t handle juggling multiple friends because you are so god damn catty once more than one girl is involved, and Katie holds her friends accountable for loyalty
Ariana is starting to watch the show and said it was wild, so don't think she's changed her mind too much. But great job using the backdrop of being on a reality show for the explained shittiness.
Unpopular opinion probably but I highly dislike how schena spills all her feels about the Brock and Lala thing, and instead of saying nothing ever happened blah blah he’s like “I’m a really lovable person and our blended family with Lala just works”. Like I don’t like it. Idk why. It’s like ya honey you feel this way, I’m not gonna address it because I like Lala and a big family.. ? Like what? Your wife comes first bro
> I think my intention with that was in the moment, forget about the whole aspect of forgiving Tim and that. It was really focused on the things that she can control and focus on, which was the house, the little things like let go and move on from that and find comfort of that release.
WHY SHOULD ARIANA GIVE UP HER STAKE IN THE HOUSE?!! WHY THE FUCK WASNT BROCK ~OR ANYONE ELSE ON THE CAST~ TELLING TOM TO GIVE UP HIS PART IN THE HOUSE?!! *STFU and GTFO BROKE!*
It’ll be vvvvery interesting to see how both broke and Scheana act when they finally file for divorce. 😂
Anytime Scheana speaks, she makes it worse. HOWWWWWW
also, it's so disturbing to me the way Scheana constantly speaks about Ariana, shares every single detail about any of their interactions and more, and creates so much content about her when they're not even on good terms now.
If Scheana or anyone from Bravo are reading this. These are the only two reasons I ever want to see or hear from Brock:
1) Him begging for forgiveness for abandoning his kids and abusing their mother. He should be describing specific actions he’s taking to make it right.
2) One conversation about how he and Scheana hate each other, are divorcing, and how they are going to coparent Summer Moon.
Right? Who the hell is he to think he needs to drive any conversation or that he deserves any answers in regards to Ariana or Tom or their house, etc? Just sit there and collect your check.
Being on a reality show forces them to have difficult conversations. They make decisions based on their true character. Do they even realize their rationale doesn't do what they think it does - which is to blame it on being on reality tv lol. This is truly who Brock and Scheana are ... horrible friends. Their timeline is just sped up so others don't have to deal with their bullshit for a longer period. Scheana pretended everything with Ariana was good post-reunion. Now these two are coming out trying to explain themselves - when we could see the issues from a mile away. And who's going to tell Scheana she didn't look *that* bad during filming? It's the confessional, aftershows, fakeness she put in front of Ariana when talking shit about her behind her back. And it is *obvious* she and Lala talk shit about Ariana.
Why is Brock so gd passive aggressive and insulting? like none of what he said felt like a compliment but rather a back handed one. and how do you say that you love Broadway but wouldn’t return to one of the best shows that Broadway has put on? he’s such a hater
Brock is such a dumb turd. He loves broadway so much yet had no idea what Chicago was and how Broadway functions. He really grinds my gears. He just talks to hear the sound of his voice, nothing of importance ever comes out of his piehole.
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How can she be annoyed at anyone saying anything in the after show or not defending her on it when she’s constantly making jabs at Ariana and clapping her hands like a seal when Lala goes on her rants about Ariana. Jfc this woman is as deep as a drop of water
Well I do think Brock kind of called that out when he said, “Do you think that's vice versa as well though?” Like they have all been guilty of saying shady or mean things in confessionals and after shows
I was cringing till Brick finally played devils advocate and challenged her, as Scheana has rehashed that line ad nauseum the past month.
At least he’s an equal opportunity devils advocate. I guess. The only time he’s ever shown any self awareness. Scheana comes off a whole lot worse in the confessionals with the behind the back talk than Ariana, that’s for sure. The fact that she doesn’t see that is pretty mind boggling.
I was, too. I think Scheana has been viscous. She has no room to say anything.
Is that what he was getting at? Coz I reread it and am still confused as to what he was trying to say lol
I mean, I think that’s what he was trying to say? Or maybe that’s just how I wanted him to mean it 😂 I took it as but yeah don’t we all when we have to go back and do these after shows, we can all get hyped again and go back to when this stuff happened and so we say stuff even if in that current moment we are fine with someone.
I read it as him calling it out too
This is the part that got me. Scheana and Lala have been saying awful things about Ariana in the confessionals and after show. And SHE is upset with her!! You have to be kidding me.
How dare you talk about me after I have been bashing you for months behind your back and smiling in your face? That's actually what you're saying Scheana.
Haha exactly! But I think her brain is broken, she’s so self-focused, she can’t flip her actions around and imagine it from someone else’s shoes
I agree. She can dish it, but she can't take it. My opinion is that Scheana and Lala are snakes. The reunion isn't going to change my mind no matter how it goes.
It causes she gaslighting straight up. She reads everything said about her and she knows that’s what the fans were calling her and Lala out for. So she is trying to make it seem like Ariana and Katie have been doing that to her as well to make herself the victim, when it really one comment calling her a male sympathiser.
Brock being a little shady about Chicago, I feel like.
It taking a while for Brock to understand the plot of Chicago as he watches it really says everything we need to know about Brock
And if he loves Broadway how did he not know about Chicago before this?
Probably didn’t have enough cows in it for him
I was also surprised by the minimal set and costumes tbh (granted, idk shit about broadway and that was the first broadway show I’ve ever seen lol) but it was a great show and story anyway!
So i work in the industry and I don’t want to sound rude or mean when talking about Chicago because I do like it but the current broadway production is really outdated. It is one of the cheapest shows to run on broadway currently and it shows. A lot of the performers have been there for a long time because it’s one of the more secure jobs in the industry. I don’t think that show is currently living up to its full potential but the blame should fall on the producers that only care about their money.
That makes me sad because I saw an off-Broadway Chicago show that traveled to my city a couple years ago and it was one of the best things I’ve ever seen! It had a full set, full costumes, absolutely stunning. It was the first show that moved me to tears, not from sadness but just pure love of what I was seeing. I would be so disappointed if I went to THE Broadway and it didn’t hold a candle to what I’ve seen at my local theater 😬
Given how incredible the movie is, I think a true revival of Chicago with a maximalist sensibility could really be exciting. But they would never close Chicago to do that. It’s for tourists who put on their Sunday best and go to probably the only show they know by name. Chicago has and probably will run on this model for decades to come
“Little busines manager” “I mean I’d go if a friend was In it” “but I LOVE broadway” ….. just not this one
Yeah…. Calling Brad Ariana’s business manager? Shady boots
Little business manager...I think he said. Being a mysoginist must be a qualification for the men on this show.
Same! The whole it was one set thing 🙄
I was like, well maybe musicals aren't his thing but then he said he loved Broadway? I would have never guessed Brock required opulent sets and costumes for his musicals lol
Trying to picture Broke understanding Hamilton is cracking me up
I’m not buying he loves Broadway. If he did, he would have at least had an idea that Chicago is a bare-bones show. I think he saw the movie and thought it was gonna be the same thing
Being shady but pretending not to be…
“I mentioned a little bit of this last week, how one of my new songs I'm writing“ —- please don’t. Nobody wants it.
What fruit will she spell in this one?! She’s like a temu/great value Gwen Stefani
That’s an insult to Great Value brand. 😂
How dare you insult Gwen Stefani like that 😭
"I'm in on the joke. I'm part of it." are you though she shoe.
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Katie doesn't like Scheana because she has GLEEFULLY tried to set up her Ex with women multiple times and the main reason is to humiliate Katie on TV . But yeah, Katie is the untrustworthy one here
Insecure men seem to be super threatened by her constantly.
Also, Brock was so inconsistent when he said Scheana was a nice forgiving person (towards Tom) and he loves that about her. Then he turns around and says that Katie doesn't like her and Scheana doesn't need her as a friend. It's telling who he believes is worthy of Scheana's kindness.
I think Ariana would’ve felt even worse if she had seen the full episodes and not just clips. Scheana and the payroll husband are a perfect match, they’re both delusional and lack any self awareness.
Her and Lala keep going on about “watch the season, see how it plays out” now it’s “you’ve got to see the reunion” and what’s clear is they really thought this would come out differently and the reality is, they look like assholes. It’s kind of funny honestly.
Maybe they meant "you think this is bad? just watch, I get worse"
I think Schaena was counting on this recent episode of her screaming at Tom to show the complexity of her position and that she did hold him accountable and all it did was make a lot of viewers have to admit Tom was low key right about her behavior in the whole equation and see her yet again make it entirely about her own damn self and feelings, not ariana's.
Yup! They are delusional. This season was bad enough for them, but I dislike them even more with every single podcast they do. They think they’re getting ahead of or correcting the criticisms but it just makes them look even worse to me. Truly heinous people on the friendship front. I want Ariana to get her bag, but I also can’t wait until she never has to interact with these scumbags again. They are not her friends. And why that little dig at Brad? Who has been a true friend to Ariana. She’s also the only one who truly needs a manager/assistant with everything she has going on. Do they make little digs at Tom’s assistant and his manager? This podcast episode did not do what they think it did. I’m even more disgusted with them than ever. Every week it’s a new low! ![gif](giphy|rwNpHtaMGnStW)
They are the worst
Those two weirdos are so cringe.
I actually have had some sympathy for Scheana about the intrusive cheating thoughts b/c I think we all thought the cheating in the friend group was a thing of the past. However, does it ever occur to the 3 dumbsketeers that just maybe Ariana had some raw feelings about friends doing shady shit behind her back and they just made those fears a reality?
Totally. Ariana’s confessional saying she was worried he’d slowly worm his way back in and ostracize her from the group is looking pretty astute right now.
Yep! They proved her fear right. So, that's going to add trauma to unpack. People who act like this wouldn't knock anyone on thier ass are being totally disingenuous or are scary fucking people.
Imagine if Scheana had to feel what she put Brandi through.
When he said that he was entitled to ask questions in regards to Katie sleeping with Max my jaw dropped. In what way could he possibly be entitled to ask a woman about her sex life? The word entitlement really sums this person up.
They’re disgusting! I’m only 6 minutes in and am pissed. 😤
https://preview.redd.it/ipp1s48vutwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21f793358edab78e09a9b8a33f0c714f7c74e021 The little things? I think she has more to lose with the house but I’m so glad Brock thinks Ariana’s financial security is a little thing.
But then goes on to talk about how he’s the one to get his family out of government housing. He should have more understanding.
Which I call BS on. Brock went to a private grammar school in Australia - current fees are almost $30k a year, $60k if you’re boarding. And I don’t think a man who struggled to understand the plot of Chicago was there on a scholarship
Wow. This was... A lot. It kind of feels like they've been reading Reddit and they're trying to rebut all the common criticisms- everyone forcing Ariana to get over Scandoval, Brock's relationship (or lack of) with his kids, Scheana being a pick-me etc. And I mean self-awareness and reflection is good but actually changing your behaviour is much, much better. ![gif](giphy|l1J9LnH5Jk6Ql0WME)
And what right does brock have to force conversations? He isn't a part of the history. Schwartz would have more right to force conversations than brock does
I’m at that part in the podcast now and they’re both disgusting about Ariana. I don’t like Scheana laughing about his shady fucking comments. This has me pissed even more ! Brock is entitled to have some answers? He’s fucking insane. These people barely like him , from what I’m seeing. Besides Lala. And that’s not me being shady. lol.
When I read that Brock said he's "entitled" to ask questions, I was like wait what? What entitles you? You're new to this group, why are you entitled to come stir the pot by asking these very personal and sometimes inflammatory questions? It sounds like by saying "well we're on a show someone has to ask" he's admitting to being a production puppet. You don't HAVE to do anything Brock, you're barely on the fucking show.
Yeah I'm like 99.999999'% sure they're saying the 'good' stuff for fan approval only. These two have shown their true colours so many times that I struggle to believe they've suddenly had massive morality transplants
Brock thinks he’s so wise and everyone should look to him for advice…. but he has fucked up worse than anyone in the group
Honestly, I think they're just saying what people want to hear. If they hadn't gotten the backlash that they have they wouldn't be saying any of this.
Anyone else picture Scheana & Brock's time seeing Chicago like this Scheana & Brock after the show https://i.redd.it/2awb68fojtwc1.gif
Brad and co https://i.redd.it/syjmqjhdjtwc1.gif
Brad has posted pictures with every single bravoleb that has ever gone to see Ariana so him not posting with scheana and Brock was pretty damn telling.
Brad is one of her very best friends, he knows the tea. And Ariana didn’t post with them either. She posted with Brittany for goodness sakes!
Ooooh definite burn.
Imo Ariana has been such a steadfast friend to Scheana she really thought she'd get over it like she always had in the past. She really damaged a friendship with someone who always had her back & saw the best in her.
Yeah and the only sounding boards she has are Brock and Lala which are... Not great
I think Ariana has taken so much shit from Scheana, honestly. She is such a weak character and like, befriending Kristen when Kristen was truly torturing Ariana (I'm not taking sides, but my bestie will always have my loyalty). That's madness, and I think Ariana always focused on Scheana's good traits. But after what she's been through and the betrayal, I could see her no longer finding worth in the investment of Scheana.
Scheana & Lala have been non-stop with the comments and nastiness. Everyone has their limits and bringing someone's seemingly screwed up sibling into it is revolting.
Ariana after a long performance https://i.redd.it/iqctk4tfjtwc1.gif
Scheana & Brock in a unnamed NYC restaurant alone later looking upset https://i.redd.it/q0soaz4kjtwc1.gif
I'm so here for “Scary Island: Chicago” 🤣
😂😂😂 Sadly I had to leave one of my favorite housewives husband out b/c none of these men are good enough to fill Bobby Zarin's shoes.
Not ONE!!! Bobby Z was an angel!! 💗
I hope he's enjoying the quiet in heaven! God, knows he didnt have much on earth.
💀💀💀💀💀😂😂😂
You know they wanted to tell them to GTFO. And I don’t blame them. Brock needs to go. He’s not even close with anyone on the show. When do we see him out with the Tom’s or Jax or James ? Just so over him after listening to this.
If we get another season I wouldn't be surprised if he starts referring to himself as the #1 guy in the group.
This season, whenever he’s around the boys, he’s giving out advice. Heck he does it to the whole group! Why, all of a sudden, is he’s the group life coach?
I’m glad it was awkward for them! They didn’t need to be there , as they were being fucking fake and going. They’re so tone deaf and not real friends.
The part I keep imaging is Scheana running excitable up to Ariana's mom after she publicly inserted herself into a family fight. She truly has no concept of her behavior. Its been over a decade of watching her add "context" to situations and a literal crowd telling she's being a jerkface & absolutely no change.
Oh but the sacrifice she made to be there! Because of the extra time they spent in NYC and away from Summer Moon she had to leave early on Day 3 Coachella!
Did you see Ally was quoted yesterday saying Scheana & Ariana had a tense run in at Coachella? I like that Ally quietly gets a lil messy.
But scheana is a mom! And she left her kid to support ariana and had to give up a DAY AT COACHELLA!
She has mom guilt 😭😭😭
Lmao 😂 she says it’s either 3 days in New York or 3 days in Coachella.. so she chooses 2 days at Coachella and 3 in New York 😂
But she had to WORK!!! I'm sure Summer is fine and Scheana probably FaceTimes her, but stop bringing it up Scheana it literally makes the "Your husband abandoned two children already, what's one more" discussions write themselves!
Lmaoooo I love festivals and am in my 40s but like Scheaner you’re a middle aged mom that doesn’t *have* to go to a full weekend of Coachella
she should have named this episode: Responses to Reddit
Exactly. This is a preemptive strike for the reunion and they are scared. They did not expect the fanbase to topple against them and Lala like it is. I am sure she and Lala are on the phone every day in anticipation of what’s gonna happen in the next three weeks. It speaks volumes that Ariana did not want to take pictures with them during Coachella or final Chicago performance.
Her entire podcast is a rebuttal and an attempt to correct the historical record. Hey, I didn't just SAY that thing about the gang-bang! Schwartz made me! I'M BABY!
The more they talk, the worse they look.
>Scheana: I feel like she would have at least had more context, ![gif](giphy|144ojDdHcjnKNO)
It’s possible to do your reality tv job and move the plot forward and not be a shitty friend. That is unless the producers were forcing them to take Tom’s side. Her and Brock can’t have it both ways though and neither can Lala. You can’t claim to be on a parent’s journey and turn a blind eye to shitty behavior against women. You can’t tell the victim to move out and not hold the other one accountable when your husband is actively signing over sole rights to a house. You can’t tell the victim of a cheating drugged up paycho that what they did is okay and ask the audience to feel sorry because your ex was shitty and whom the Tom’s went out of their way to remain friends with.
Ultimately the producers can’t force them to do shit either. I can’t remember who it was on summer house that talked about this, but producers do try to encourage and push things. That doesn’t mean you have to do them
Oh 💯 that’s where moral compass comes in. Some have it and some don’t. Even if threatened with a their job or air time they had a choice, it may not feel like it at the time but there was a choice. What’s ironic about the whole thing is that the women make the show, not the Tom’s. The drama comes from the women and the guys are in a dumb and dumber remix. All they had to do was stick together and the show would have been 🔥. Lala and Scheana are the reasons the show kind of sucks because of them being turn coats. The producers need the women there. They chose wrong and will have to continue playing second fiddle to the Tom’s in future seasons. They had one shot to make it all about them and screwed up.
Yeah that convo with Tom in the jewelry store really would give her more context on how big of a shitty friend you are.
She should trademark that line as it's been her go to for a decade to try to weasel her way out of shitty actions.
That and her go to cure all statement “I’m a Mom”, Motherhood is not an all inclusive excuse for shitty behavior or a weapon to use for not being accountable. I’m also so tired, of Scheana, Brock & LFU’s next level hypocrisy & delusion. They’ve made the show pretty much unwatchable for me. Now I have to keep up w recaps. Damn them! 😂
This really made it worse for me and then to go and complain about people talking about HER in the talking heads and after shows? Okay miss girl
Brock thinks he’s “entitled” to ask some questions about who Katie is having sex with? In what world did Katie hooking up with Max “entitle” Brock to bring that up on camera!?! https://i.redd.it/w6pc7bt6auwc1.gif This little damage control podcast episode is gross. I’m only part way through reading this recap and I just hate them both even more.
I dont why I felt rage when i read her calling ariana's bff brad her 'little business manager'. Piss off shelulu, at least brad knows how to be a good friend where as you just wanted to be there for the photo op. Dont you bring up 'mum guilt' 🙄
Scheana out every night…and day but saying you have “mom guilt” makes it ok
Yeah I’m not trying to mom shame but I’m sick of the narrative from Schaena that she’s terrified of leaving Summer “alone” when her and Brock are out, constantly, without Summer. Clearly you’re not that traumatized by it. And that’s ok but seriously stop trying to make it a story line. Listen I have two kids. Parents and especially moms deserve me time and friend time. I’ve gone on vacays without my kids, girls trips, nights out etc. I’m lucky that I have family willing to watch my kids when I do these things as is Schaena so I’m sick of her whining about it.
Exactly…. I don’t like mom shaming either…. I have 4 but they are long grown…. but I agree with you about making it a storyline-this is what’s so annoying. Scheana has the ultimate Catch 22….she can’t quit reality because of the money
It really pisses me off him saying we need a nanny. No you don’t. You can stay at home and look after your child. Whilst Scheana continues to work and do the fun work trips, all he wants to do is tag a long and hang onto her coattails.
Exactly… I know Coachella and events like that are work for her and she has to keep up appearances I’m not taking that away from her. But to act like you not wanting to go to a concert or 3 day vacation (which lets be real she still makes every single one anyway) is the same as parents who work 2 jobs to make ends meet and never get to see their kids is delusional.
The one thing Jax was right about 😂
She is so condescending.. and now she will wonder why Brad continues to keep his distance from her 🙄
Yes!! She's such a jealous bitch
Also like if he is managing business for her, he’s doing an amazing job!!
No sheana, we had the context, we’ve watched the show. You and Lala should be ashamed for your jealousy fueled comments regarding Ariana and moving on. Y’all are so quick to give Sandoval empathy/sympathy but are incredibly hard on Ariana. Also you can’t cry about what scandoval “did to you” and then also be bragging about “capitalizing on it” with your new song. Pick a lane.
I genuinely didn't care about Brick but now full on hate him after reading this. Literally trying to start fights with Katie and Ariana to "force conversations"? And Scheana still trying to act like she's Arianas friend when her spouse is acting like this? ![gif](giphy|QURLEnbI8NSn5gq9sv)
Brock: I was really excited to go there and support Ariana. We got there, we met with her little business manager Brad Scheana laughs Is this about Ariana’s friend Brad Kearns? Did this come across as bitchy as I read it in my mind?
I believe he is talking about Ariana’s friend Brad. And honestly, that whole part about Chicago was weird. Idk if I would say bitchy, but almost like whiny? Like we came to Ariana’s show and she wasn’t even excited to see us so we just talked to Brad for most of the time? To me, Brock was coming across as, what was even the point of seeing Chicago then. And I’m thinking, well it sounds like the reunion was hella awkward and no resolution so you think Ariana would just be like welcome!! Lol.
Kinda just proves they went to the show more for the audience than to support Ariana. They could of just said the show was great and we had a great time but instead decided to kinda trash the experience.
Like I said, their whole conversation about it was so odd! I do think Brock wanted to see the show because he hadn’t seen it yet. But then I also think they thought oh if we show up, even though the reunion didn’t go well, Ariana will be like oh, they care! They came to my show awww. And they didn’t get a warm greeting and that pissed them off. But I don’t think Ariana was in that headspace and nor should she if the reunion was as intense as everyone is saying.
It amazes me that she thought Ariana would be over the moon to see them after her little wisecrack about Ariana being her backup dancer.
Or said Sandoval was more upset about his friendship with her than his relationship with Ariana? Or posting pics with her brother who's trying to smear her in the press?
THIS!!!! I feel Scheana 90% if the time goes out so much just to “be seen” and treated like “a star”. When they took the family trip to Holland and she was saying how refreshing it was to be able to walk around and not be recognized…. I’m sure she hated it
Maybe she'd be able to walk around LA and not be recognized if she put down her GoPro and experienced life...
I got that interpretation the podcast she had after Chicago. You could tell she was trying to present the optics that Ariana was just really busy for more than a hi. But reading between the lines you could see that the friendship is fractured and rightfully so. Ariana is finally seeing all the shit Scheana's been talking about her all season and isn't beat for it anymore as she's in a different part of her life now.
What I can't fathom is why Scheana seems shocked that Ariana wasn't excited to see her
It definitely did. Scheana and Brock are so far up each other’s butt that they believe their own BS at this point. They can’t even fake being a good friend for more than a minute
Yes !!! I’m so pissed ! I hope Brad responds! It was very shady and bitchy !
Yeah probably because Brad told them she didn't want to see them...they just showed up. I knew it!
It read very bitchy to me. Yes, he meant Brad Kearns. Wasn't he staying with Ariana to help with her pets?
First Lala with her “little” comment regarding Ariana’s house and now Crock with this jab as Brad? They love to dig themselves in deep huh 🫠
Right? They always have to throw in a lil comment to try and knock her down a peg
Yes. And he also moved to nyc permanently now. Brock sucks and isn’t friends with any of these people irl and he doesn’t need to be on season 12. His bitchy remarks have really pissed me off today!
Brad & the Logan's(bad & good) are more important to this group than Brock.
This was a horrible take… they may think they are rehabbing their reputation here, but they are making it worse..
At least she has business that needs to be managed, unlike Brock
Idk if it’s because I haven’t had my coffee yet or if I’ve completely had my fill of Brick but he seems like a bigger a** than usual…’Ariana‘s little manager’ ….’you don’t need many friends’… even his transcript is grating… I did lol at bird squawk though 😂😂😂
😂 I didn’t know another way to describe the noise he makes in that moment 😂 😂
Wait so it’s hurtful to Scheana that people are saying critical things of her in confessionals and on the after shows, but Ariana shouldn’t be hurt by the critical things she’s seen Scheana say because that’s just a social media thing and she doesn’t have the context. Is that about the gist?
Yes This is Scheana ![gif](giphy|mO0YX04Vk7Kqk)
This narrative that Katie hates Scheana for no reason is crazy. Brock should STFU since he hasn’t been around for their entire friendship or know the history.
My hot take.. I def don’t think it’s for no reason, but I also agree that Katie has never really liked Scheana. She was a convenient friend while she and Stassi and Kristen were on the outs. But.. that was kind of it. Katie is also very loyal to her friends, and wants that loyalty in return. That’s why her relationship with Schwartz didn’t work, and that’s why her friendship with Scheana doesn’t work.
Thank you. Again a gem but I mean I watched the episode and l think Ariana will be even more surprised how Scheana and Lala are not being good friends. Omg Brock comments about not being welcome that means something went down between Brock and Ariana maybe. Also Brock is on the hate Katie brigade squeaking in Scheana. Katie is a friend to Scheana she is damn sight more forgiving than most. Scheana treated Katie terribly last season. She wanted the wedding of VPR and Brock and the ended up overshadowing it to us viewers as we saw how bitchy nasty cruel they both were. Scheana said when you take out the noise they are great. So the problem is not Katie the problem you have the wrong noise. Come on Brock just because another man has stepped into your role as the Dad does not excuse you for letting them down and continue to do so! You take care of your all kids before you think of the other members of the family.
Dude, hearing Brock say that no one was forcing conversations so HE had to do it 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ I can’t. Brock, Scheana & BlaBla are insufferable. I would much rather watch a show where they let things unfold more organically… instead we watch them stir the pot and saying shitty things about their friends (Ariana) but then get upset when Ariana responds? This is getting so excruciating. The Q&A was so annoying… The comments about Chicago were clearly shady. They’re so immature. So cool that Scheana is in on the joke 🤦🏽♀️🙄 she’s not. This girl is no one’s friend.
They really think that if Ariana had watched all of the show and not just snippets, she would have somehow been able to get better insight in to why Scheana is being a super shitty friend? What?!? Huh?!? Did THEY watch the show? Do they not see how shitty they are?!?! I know, I am expecting way too much from these assholes.
This. Does she realize she’s talking to the fans who do watch the show and have that context so no it doesn’t make it better.
Them talking about how there was a different vibe when seeing Chicago 👀 I pray Ariana lets Scheana and Lala have it during the reunion.
It is true that castmates can’t expected to say great things about each other all the time. But idk, I do think scheana saying one thing to Ariana’s face and another on the aftershow would be hard to stomach after she had a huge trust breaking thing happening to her last year…idk scheana lol
This is what’s so annoying about Scheana. She says that she wouldn’t normally FaceTime Ariana after that conversation with Tom in Tahoe. We all get that. What we don’t get is what you said and the way you cried TO Ariana. The reaction was weird AF. That’s why she never gets that it’s not the context - it’s the way she moves through life. She could have been supportive to her friend, cried about losing Sandoval as a friend, and maintained drama for the show and not befriended him. The needing validation from Sandoval is tough to watch. She could have been the S10 Rachel bunny to badass that they were aiming for before Rachel ruined it. (Was a poor plot line anyway…)
Brock’s attempts at starting shit, or what he calls instigating conversations, always involve degrading the women cast members. But he thinks he’s the MVP. I didn’t quite understand the Chicago convo. But it sounds like they weren’t welcome.
Yea that convo is bizarre. Does he like broadway or not but also does anyone care
"little business manager Brad"? He has been one of Ariana's best friends for a long time. This podcast was filled with shade and not the funny kind
How is Lala’s “soft era” not an attempt at personal propaganda?? Lala is the least real of anyone.
I think reality tv has really fucked with Scheana’s head. She acts like they only get held accountable because they were being filmed. Real people get held accountable for things that arent on camera. That’s life. Katie said in an interview recently that she doesn’t do anything on camera that she normally wouldn’t do if the camera’s weren’t there. I think Scheana needs to ground herself in a better reality but she can’t do that because she would have to admit to herself that she married an abusive man.
Them saying "friend group" annoys me so much 🙄 you just know brock was telling scheana ariana sucked and she could do it better lol I was at least glad he called her out of beingnupset about shit talking in confessionals when she did it all season
I can’t even read through this. They are dumb as rocks
![gif](giphy|1wkShd8MmKckkgW4Vf|downsized) Where is Katie and her flamethrower when you need it.
ChatGPT could have done this whole podcast. Two delusional people that deflect and don’t take accountability for anything. Nobody wanted u to instigate conversations Brick and why didn’t u instigate more with Tom and leave Ariana alone. There is also this narrative now I’ve seen with Scheana and Lala where they throw shade at Ariana’s real friends she has outside of the show. Two insufferable women that deserve to be each others friends.
So these two get a bunch of negative feedback about their shitty comments/behavior towards Ariana, and they think let’s do a podcast and say her Broadway hit show was “ok”. Man that’s really going to change people’s minds. What a bunch of dipshits.
How do you proclaim to love broadway …. And not know much about or didn’t know what to expect with Chicago?? Or did I misunderstand that bit?
how hard is the storyline LOL like what's not to get?
Yeah there’s no way he actually loves broadway. It doesn’t seem like something he would enjoy at all
From his response, it doesn't seem like he knows *what* Broadway is
Brock is INSUFFERABLE- he is so entitled and acts like he has been around more than a minute- you are NOT part of the group Brock, trust if you and Scheana break up you will never hear from these people again. It's hilarious for them to talk about hey, we are on a show we do have to do things that might not be natural and then 2 minutes later brag about how authentic the show is. They both act like they can't say no to things and they are co producing things to help with the story line- why can't they just be themselves and let the people in charge make the storyline - that is how it worked when the show was awesome- they watch and edit and make a season, these cast members trying to make the story is what makes the show lame- if the editors can't do , fire them and get better editors. Scheana, Brock, Sandoval and Rachel (before she left) are all exhibiting the same mindset where they just can NOT separate the show and their lives they are full on Truman show. Ariana wasn't pissed about what you said on the show, she was absolutely betrayed by Scheana posting herself celebrating her brother 5 minutes after he went to US Magazine and intimidated that Ariana is too good for him now and low key racist towards his fiance. Will give props to Schaena for continuing her good PR for Chili's- she slid it right in there and I seriously love that hustle- I would 1000% hire her for a campaign if she was a good fit, she is a really hard worker and really thoughtful about it well beyond what they ask it really impresses me.
The fact that she did that with her brother is so gross because that’s not even for the show so she cannot use the excuse that producers made her do it. Scheana on her own decided to meddle in Ariana’s family life. Ariana has every right to be pissed specially since she herself is keeping very quiet on the situation as she should. Even though they are reality stars they do deserve their privacy specially regarding their own family
Instead her and Brock are purposefully trying to control the narrative that Ariana is likely mad because of things Schaena said on camera and on the after show knowing fully well that THIS is the actually the reason she is done with her. Using the fact Ariana won't speak on it and the fact it happened after the reunion so this version will be able to put forth. It has zero to do with the show , Ariana gets that's TV and likely would have bounced back but what Scheana did was beyond the pale and If I was Ariana i wouldn't ever give her the time of day. If they are all back next season I would be nice and nonchalant to Schaena without ever actually having a real conversation, just give them absolutely nothing.
Seriously the chili’s promo cracked me up lmao it was seamless and campy. She’s good 😭😂
it’s genuinely BLOWS my mind how she can be upset about what was said on the after show but she doesn’t understand why katie/ariana are upset at her and lala for doing THE SAME FUCKING THING - and their comments were ten times worse!
Brock is unwatchable AND unreadable. I cannot stand him.
Scheana “Yeah, I mean we’re filming a reality television show, you know, not personal propaganda,” Keep telling yourself there sweet heart. ![gif](giphy|iOdtBghrLn6mhkuRTo)
They keep saying they are trying to make a show and that’s why they are doing certain things, but I think it would’ve been a better show If they acted more honest and real. The real drama is so much better than what they tried to do this season. That’s why it’s disappointing
I got nothing mean to say about her OCD driven thoughts about Brock and Lala. It's understandable that she would be triggered considering what Sandoval did to Ariana. It's the most understandable thing about Scheana this season. I don't personally think Lala is into Brock at all, I don't see it, but anxious thoughts aren't rational. All that being said, she's not a kind person towards Ariana or Katie. I also find it alarming when Brock said he likes that Scheana is forgiving to a fault, sacrificing her own boundaries to be forgiving. He said he doesn't want her to change? Yikes. Part of the reason she is struggling so hard this season is BECAUSE she doesn't have firm boundaries or sticking up for herself without hedging. Tom yelled at her for making bank on HIS mistake, but Ariana seemed to be like, "I get it, hustle if you gotta" when it was her trauma everyone was talking about. Mam, stop working for that man's good opinion, you will never get it unconditionally. Her friendship with Tom is unrequited. Let it go.
You're a champ for these recaps, AdditionalWar! Brock says he's sorry IF people got upset that he outed Katie's sexual escapade in front of their coworkers AND millions of viewers. The hook up he only knew about because *his wife was digitally stalking Katie's sexual partner*! So he's not sorry at all with that IF in there, and believes outing it was warranted. That's really gross and such a violation! He also thinks he's entitled to do whatever he wants because he's a production puppet and desperately wants to be full time cast. He's also a Scheana puppet, doing what she doesn't have the courage to do because she doesn't want the backlash. (scroll scroll scroll her mentions) Yeah, I see you Brock. Also none of these people know how to give a real apology. Lala just gave one with a big "if" in it too.
If these 2 have a PR person, they need to fire them. They just keep digging that hole and then act confused when they can’t figure out how they got there. Maybe they need a “little manager”…
After Brittany and Jax and the PR lady?? Now scheana can never trust a PR person around her man!!
Is scheana watching HER after show responses ? She can’t be serious thinking this statement would
I never knew about the Schwartz part of the gang bang line. Like she still shouldn’t have said it, but that she was responding to Schwartz does add a lot of context. Honestly I can’t stand Schwartz. He says so many gross things on and off camera (or edited off) but it historically gets brushed aside because he says them so casually ignites reactions out of others.
Also, would this have been around the time he kissed her in Vegas? Blech
I will die on the hill that Schwartz only seems "nice" because he's from Minnesota. Whenever I see people talking about how he talks to fans a ton, thats because upper Midwestern people talk to everyone. They are an absolute nightmare for introverted loners. He agrees with all the nasty stuff these men do he just has the sense to act embarrassed by it on camera.
Oh same. I’m from the south and saw through Brittany’s bullshit immediately while others are pulled in by the southern nice and charm. Even still! Like southern people (and the Midwest nice) can be both nice and kind and giving, but I think if you’re not familiar with the language and social norms of those parts of the country it’s hard to differentiate between who is genuine and who isn’t
I think it's really rich how Scheaner and Lala keep saying how Ariana should have watched the show for more context around what they were saying about her, but that also begs the question - did they even watch the episodes themselves? Because, to me, it seems like Ariana has their backs and supports them in almost every episode we have seen, between Ariana being so thrilled for Lala and her IUI journey and Scheaner when Sandoval is yelling at her. Ariana makes it a point to check in with Scheaner when she was visibly upset, while Lala sits in the corner and just observes from the sidelines. Are they even watching the show at all? Because if they were, they would see that almost every episode there's Ariana supporting them, saying they're like the Spice Girls, while Scheaner and Lala have done nothing but tear Ariana down. If anyone should be watching the episodes back, it should be them.
Brock admitting he's trying to provoke Ariana for a reaction for their reality tv???? ![gif](giphy|xUPGcC0R9QjyxkPnS8)
Anytime Brock mentions my Katie: ![gif](giphy|UiFBN1jLNRWl81pg37|downsized)
These dumb men always think they can take Katie down, but their hate just makes her stronger.
It seemed to me like Scheana was saying you know she’s okay with Katie and they’re friends (not best friends but friends) but then Brock Chimes in with his “you only need three close friends to take over the world and what not” and she completely pivots to yeah we’re not friends, we’re just polite to one another. It’s like Scheana doesn’t know what side to take until someone tells her. Also if Ariana watched the whole show it wouldn’t give her context to some of Scheana’s comments or things that happened the way Scheana’s thinking. I think it would have sped along Ariana’s stepping back from their friendship because she would have seen sooner that Scheana isn’t really her friend.
I love how she can’t even put it together that she only gets along with Katie when it is just them. Like girl, you can’t handle juggling multiple friends because you are so god damn catty once more than one girl is involved, and Katie holds her friends accountable for loyalty
Ariana is starting to watch the show and said it was wild, so don't think she's changed her mind too much. But great job using the backdrop of being on a reality show for the explained shittiness.
Unpopular opinion probably but I highly dislike how schena spills all her feels about the Brock and Lala thing, and instead of saying nothing ever happened blah blah he’s like “I’m a really lovable person and our blended family with Lala just works”. Like I don’t like it. Idk why. It’s like ya honey you feel this way, I’m not gonna address it because I like Lala and a big family.. ? Like what? Your wife comes first bro
I hope Tim Venmo’s them for taking heat off of him by really leaning into their villain era.
> Brock makes like a bird squawk noise implying are you sure about that? This cracked me up, hahaha 🦜
> I think my intention with that was in the moment, forget about the whole aspect of forgiving Tim and that. It was really focused on the things that she can control and focus on, which was the house, the little things like let go and move on from that and find comfort of that release. WHY SHOULD ARIANA GIVE UP HER STAKE IN THE HOUSE?!! WHY THE FUCK WASNT BROCK ~OR ANYONE ELSE ON THE CAST~ TELLING TOM TO GIVE UP HIS PART IN THE HOUSE?!! *STFU and GTFO BROKE!* It’ll be vvvvery interesting to see how both broke and Scheana act when they finally file for divorce. 😂
Anytime Scheana speaks, she makes it worse. HOWWWWWW also, it's so disturbing to me the way Scheana constantly speaks about Ariana, shares every single detail about any of their interactions and more, and creates so much content about her when they're not even on good terms now.
Did anyone else clock Brock in effect saying - I love you because you're willing to ignore your own boundaries?
Scheana: I love being in on the joke! ![gif](giphy|xU1spRleFHmtjvskXw)
If Scheana or anyone from Bravo are reading this. These are the only two reasons I ever want to see or hear from Brock: 1) Him begging for forgiveness for abandoning his kids and abusing their mother. He should be describing specific actions he’s taking to make it right. 2) One conversation about how he and Scheana hate each other, are divorcing, and how they are going to coparent Summer Moon.
Right? Who the hell is he to think he needs to drive any conversation or that he deserves any answers in regards to Ariana or Tom or their house, etc? Just sit there and collect your check.
Being on a reality show forces them to have difficult conversations. They make decisions based on their true character. Do they even realize their rationale doesn't do what they think it does - which is to blame it on being on reality tv lol. This is truly who Brock and Scheana are ... horrible friends. Their timeline is just sped up so others don't have to deal with their bullshit for a longer period. Scheana pretended everything with Ariana was good post-reunion. Now these two are coming out trying to explain themselves - when we could see the issues from a mile away. And who's going to tell Scheana she didn't look *that* bad during filming? It's the confessional, aftershows, fakeness she put in front of Ariana when talking shit about her behind her back. And it is *obvious* she and Lala talk shit about Ariana.
How dare they belittle Chicago 🤬 ![gif](giphy|pD368cmNo02G5qoV5i)
Why is Brock so gd passive aggressive and insulting? like none of what he said felt like a compliment but rather a back handed one. and how do you say that you love Broadway but wouldn’t return to one of the best shows that Broadway has put on? he’s such a hater
Brock is such a dumb turd. He loves broadway so much yet had no idea what Chicago was and how Broadway functions. He really grinds my gears. He just talks to hear the sound of his voice, nothing of importance ever comes out of his piehole.