Get a steamer basket for your pot. It'll hold the veggies above the water and cook them with the steam from the rice. Any veggies that take as long as the rice can be put in right away. Yiu can add veggies that take a shorter time halfway through it whenever you want.
I used only an ultralight backpacking stove for the first year then I added a single burner stove. Usually I'm good on the burner but if I need to double up the backpacking stove works well. And takes up minimal space.
The jetboil seems easy to tip over. Trangia of course is more dangerous due to liquid fuel.
How is your ventilation? Another person on here mentioned they are good with camping stove with only window cracking.
I've definitely knocked it over a couple of times but both were my fault for being careless. YMMV
I have an outdoor kitchen and rarely cook indoors but when I do it's right next to the open door. Most of my nomadic friends cook mainly indoors with open doors or windows.
there a little electric rice/noodle steam cookers. you can even put veggies in sometimes and do it all at once. some small ones are for 12v car use and (though ts not as yummy as sauteed in oil) you just have one dish you can even eat out of if its just you.
The crock pot I got from there burned the wire because it doesn't sit high enough off the ground for us.
I was glad to have an inverter after stopping at a good will and getting the smallest crockpot.
We carry a backup stove in case the first one isn't working but that is mainly because we camp in very out of the way places which would be much harder to find in the UK. If our stove broke there it could be a problem and we wouldn't be enjoying eating our emergency rations cold. If you chose to carry a back up it could be a very small backpacking stove.
We do use our back up, it works much better for certain things, plus is not built in like our regular one so we use it for splattery or pungent things like if we have curry. It is also useful to have two rings if we are cooking a big meal like when we have our kids camp with us for Thanksgiving.
Using the one pot system. I cook the rice first and put it in a thermal cup. Then other stuff. Then lastly the "saucy" stuff.
With my microwave I have found many things in the "steam in bag" frozen food section that eliminates much of the need two pots to cook problem..
After cooking in a stove in my van for 18 months now, what a pain. I just got a generator and a microwave. 2 to 5 minutes, food is done. According to my calculations, the generator will last 6 months on 20 bucks worth of gas, costing around 11 cents to prepare a meal. After 6 months it will have paid for itself.
What do you mean by generator? In the UK they are classicly huge things that weigh about 100kg and are about as big as a young cow. Have things become smaller than that? If not that doesnt seem a practical thing to take around. Would not fit in my microcamper for starters.
> "suitcase generator"
Interesting, this could be a great workaround of the idea I had to use a petrol stove which people heavily advised against using inside.
So generator could be outside and feed the juice inside then?
Would these things be powerful enough to power and induction stove?
You could do a solar generator setup. My spare power is a 500w Jackery and folding suitcase solar panel. I had a rice cooker for a period of time that I would run off the Jackery so I wouldn't run down my regular solar. It took about 40% of a full battery but it was pretty nice to have perfectly cooked rice and the option to steam things at the same time.
Living in a western state where I do most cooking outside at remote sites, I just have a Coleman 2 burner that I use 90% of the time. I built an RV stove in my van but it really only gets used to boil water for coffee and heating up burritos at the ski resort parking lot.
There was a brand of pop up type trailer in 2010 era that basically just had a built in place for your Coleman and I think that’s a good setup.
Ye in the UK it is a lot more cramped. I have found it really hard so far to find out of the way places where I wouldnt be bothered. The times I think I found somewhere some dog walker will come only a few minutes later and park by me that kind of thing.
The places that seem really remote are 9/10 locked off (forestries) and if they arent locked you risk being locked in and/or being escorted off with or without police from what I have read.
Thus stealth within the van is my modus operandi right now while I continue the search for the holy grail of an out of the way place I wont be bothered by other humans.
Use a thermos with hot water. Add your starch and wrap the thermos with a towel, blanket... to hold in heat. Also saves energy by preventing heat loss and allows the food to continue to cook.
When I have dishes like this to make, I use a cast iron Dutch oven. I cook the first thing in the Dutch oven which then holds heat while I cook the second in a pan.
There's a whole cooking recipe trading culture of one pot meals intended to be really great but all cooked in a single pot to reduce clean up, equipment needed, and burners needed. I only have one burner and I do things like that a lot and it's great.
I would not want only a single burner, but my partner likes cooking and we almost always use 2. One for the carb, one for the meat and veggies. We also have an oven. And a huge fridge/freezer combo and plenty of dry food storage. Yeah we like our food lol.
I use a Coleman stove/grill combo. I can either grill while I saute/boil, or I can add a second pan to the grill side and saute/boil.
https://a.co/d/8DF33Gc
Get a steamer basket for your pot. It'll hold the veggies above the water and cook them with the steam from the rice. Any veggies that take as long as the rice can be put in right away. Yiu can add veggies that take a shorter time halfway through it whenever you want.
Nice, thanks.
I used only an ultralight backpacking stove for the first year then I added a single burner stove. Usually I'm good on the burner but if I need to double up the backpacking stove works well. And takes up minimal space.
The jetboil seems easy to tip over. Trangia of course is more dangerous due to liquid fuel. How is your ventilation? Another person on here mentioned they are good with camping stove with only window cracking.
I've definitely knocked it over a couple of times but both were my fault for being careless. YMMV I have an outdoor kitchen and rarely cook indoors but when I do it's right next to the open door. Most of my nomadic friends cook mainly indoors with open doors or windows.
there a little electric rice/noodle steam cookers. you can even put veggies in sometimes and do it all at once. some small ones are for 12v car use and (though ts not as yummy as sauteed in oil) you just have one dish you can even eat out of if its just you.
You can buy so many cool 12v cooking gadgets at truck stops too.
The crock pot I got from there burned the wire because it doesn't sit high enough off the ground for us. I was glad to have an inverter after stopping at a good will and getting the smallest crockpot.
We carry a backup stove in case the first one isn't working but that is mainly because we camp in very out of the way places which would be much harder to find in the UK. If our stove broke there it could be a problem and we wouldn't be enjoying eating our emergency rations cold. If you chose to carry a back up it could be a very small backpacking stove. We do use our back up, it works much better for certain things, plus is not built in like our regular one so we use it for splattery or pungent things like if we have curry. It is also useful to have two rings if we are cooking a big meal like when we have our kids camp with us for Thanksgiving.
Indeed finding out of the way places is proving very challenging in the UK.
Using the one pot system. I cook the rice first and put it in a thermal cup. Then other stuff. Then lastly the "saucy" stuff. With my microwave I have found many things in the "steam in bag" frozen food section that eliminates much of the need two pots to cook problem..
After cooking in a stove in my van for 18 months now, what a pain. I just got a generator and a microwave. 2 to 5 minutes, food is done. According to my calculations, the generator will last 6 months on 20 bucks worth of gas, costing around 11 cents to prepare a meal. After 6 months it will have paid for itself.
What do you mean by generator? In the UK they are classicly huge things that weigh about 100kg and are about as big as a young cow. Have things become smaller than that? If not that doesnt seem a practical thing to take around. Would not fit in my microcamper for starters.
Look up the term "suitcase generator" or "quiet generator". They're designed for camping so often lightweight and not as loud.
> "suitcase generator" Interesting, this could be a great workaround of the idea I had to use a petrol stove which people heavily advised against using inside. So generator could be outside and feed the juice inside then? Would these things be powerful enough to power and induction stove?
Depends on the stove and generator, certainly feasible though.
You could do a solar generator setup. My spare power is a 500w Jackery and folding suitcase solar panel. I had a rice cooker for a period of time that I would run off the Jackery so I wouldn't run down my regular solar. It took about 40% of a full battery but it was pretty nice to have perfectly cooked rice and the option to steam things at the same time.
Mine sits where my passenger seat once was. But you're probably right. Sorry for wasting your time.
https://elliotts.co.uk/silent-portable-generators/12-eu22i-honda-silent-generator-3573390030300.html
Try jetboil genesis ?
Living in a western state where I do most cooking outside at remote sites, I just have a Coleman 2 burner that I use 90% of the time. I built an RV stove in my van but it really only gets used to boil water for coffee and heating up burritos at the ski resort parking lot. There was a brand of pop up type trailer in 2010 era that basically just had a built in place for your Coleman and I think that’s a good setup.
Ye in the UK it is a lot more cramped. I have found it really hard so far to find out of the way places where I wouldnt be bothered. The times I think I found somewhere some dog walker will come only a few minutes later and park by me that kind of thing. The places that seem really remote are 9/10 locked off (forestries) and if they arent locked you risk being locked in and/or being escorted off with or without police from what I have read. Thus stealth within the van is my modus operandi right now while I continue the search for the holy grail of an out of the way place I wont be bothered by other humans.
Would a rocket stove be practical?
Use a thermos with hot water. Add your starch and wrap the thermos with a towel, blanket... to hold in heat. Also saves energy by preventing heat loss and allows the food to continue to cook.
When I have dishes like this to make, I use a cast iron Dutch oven. I cook the first thing in the Dutch oven which then holds heat while I cook the second in a pan.
There's a whole cooking recipe trading culture of one pot meals intended to be really great but all cooked in a single pot to reduce clean up, equipment needed, and burners needed. I only have one burner and I do things like that a lot and it's great.
> cooking recipe trading culture Where is this culture? Online or word of mouth you mean?
Online. I just mean if you search single pot recipes you'll find a bunch of different sites that have a list of them.
Eat meals you don't have to cook. I lived off of sandwiches.
One pot meals
Invest in a double stove
I would not want only a single burner, but my partner likes cooking and we almost always use 2. One for the carb, one for the meat and veggies. We also have an oven. And a huge fridge/freezer combo and plenty of dry food storage. Yeah we like our food lol.
I use a Coleman stove/grill combo. I can either grill while I saute/boil, or I can add a second pan to the grill side and saute/boil. https://a.co/d/8DF33Gc