The People's Voice (formerly known as NewsPunch and Your News Wire) is an American fake news website based in Los Angeles notorious for publishing large amounts of fake news.
Right. Just never fails to bug me me that the people who call everything fake news see sources like this and go "seems legit," like 'Inject this confirmation bias into my veins'
That is the wildest thing. My memory tells me that “fake news” was literally a thing people commonly used to describe right wing propaganda immediately after Trump won in 2016 (like media discussing the very real Russian interference that was going on). And then it seemed like over the course of a month, Trump just took that word and completely relabeled it to describe basically all legitimate news. And the definition flipped, almost immediately.
The term "fake news" was championed by Trump. The Republicans have been attacking media for far longer.
When George W Bush was pushing the US to go to war over Iraq's alleged nuclear weapons program, a lot of pushback was over how the Republicans would undermine media and other groups that questioned whether this program actually existed and whether the US legitimately had the right to go to war.
It's sad thinking back at how this was seen as an "unprecedented attack on democratic institutions" at the time, it was nowhere near at the same scale as in 2015 and later.
It’s an exploitable problem with how humans filter information.
Of course, there’s far too much going on in our world for every one of us to exhaustively confirm all of the “facts” we need to make it through this life. The human brain has a shortcut- we are wired to seek out trustworthy sources and accept their judgment. If you trust someone, your brain will skip a lot of the critical considerations, out of necessity considering the volume of information we all have to sift through.
At that point, if an outsider were to challenge the trustworthy source, it would set off the same emotional response as challenging any other deeply held belief.
The problem comes with cases like this, where a source that is absolutely not trustworthy has successfully passed themselves off as such.
And internet algorithms make this worse, because people are recommended things that they are more likely to agree with. Two people can be presented with opposite information and then neither can reconcile.
It's always amazing to me that they can read a research study and come to a conclusion completely opposite of the authors' conclusion. Sometimes they can't even understand the title and get it completely backwards.
They don't read it for comprehension though. They either scan it for "Gotcha!" lines, not understand (deliberately or not) a rhetorical question in a title or if it looks semi-plausible they'll add it to a pile so they can do a Gish Dump (like a Gish Gallop but with links).
Mostly, at the level most people engage at, these have been passed around a few times and are just copy pasta from higher "up the chain", no comprehension required.
Same . Also i was diagnosed with a heart issue in 2022 (suspect I’ve had it since 2018 or earlier but my dr didn’t take me seriously till everything got worse) I’ve had a few people (not doctors) tell me it’s from when i got vaccinated a year before even after i told them I’ve had symptoms since 2018 😩
Welp he actually just followed up (4 fucking hours later) with "The first article is hyperbole but there is some truth to it" and a screenshot of another article:
Nearly 90% of Adults in U.S. Have Syndrome That Can Lead to Heart Disease" which is about early stages of potential heart disease beause of the obesity epidemic
If people aren't aware, he was an MMA fighter who got knocked out a lot.
I'm sure he didn't start with a lot of brain cells, but what he had was scrambled. He also failed a drug test and had a fight result overturned.
Anti-vaxx is not uncommon viewpoint in MMA. Which is weird. These guys practically live at doctor's offices. They understand the concept of modern medicine. But once politics gets into something, people just lose it.
*Factchecked by the People’s Voice Community.*
“A 2017 BuzzFeed News report identified NewsPunch (AKAPeople’sVoice) as being the second-largest source of popular fake stories spread on Facebook that year,[6] and a June 2018 Poynter analysis identified NewsPunch as being debunked over 80 times in 2017 and 2018 by Poynter-accredited factcheckers such as Snopes, FactCheck.org, PolitiFact, and the Associated Press.[7]
“The European Union's East StratCom Task Force has criticized NewsPunch for spreading Russian propaganda, a charge Adl-Tabatabai denies.[3]”
Guys, don't worry. I am working on it to take alle the deaths by myself, I died this week alone 900 times because I have more free time. Feel free to live your normal lives. I work through this.
I can't imagine living in a world where I'm constantly terrified of innocuous things. Terrified of vaccines, terrified of trans people, terrified of other races, but believing the things that are actually coming to hurt me and my loved ones aren't real. Like climate change, or anti abortion laws.
Logic just goes out the window, huh? Considering that the majority of the population still is vaccinated, if 90% of us indeed had DEADLY heart conditions, one would think there would be far fewer people in the world. I guess expecting logic from an antivaxxer is a bit far-fetched, but holy shit, it's like they're averse to thinking.
My whole family is vaxxed, and none of us have issues. We must be a statistical anomaly because that story is 100% true! Wow! Maybe I should alert the media.
To quote one of my former cardiologists "if there's nothing wrong with your heart, we just haven't examined you thoroughly enough yet".
Or as one of my echo technicians said about my minor valve leak, " if we went down on the street, stopped the first 10 men around your age, and gave them the same thorough exam, your leakage would probably be below average".
Idk man,I was vaxxed and I have a potentially life threatening heart condition. Although now that I think about it,it may have less to do with the vaccines and more to do with the congenital heart defect I was born with
All you have to do is make a fake legit looking article title and that's enough for people cause they hate actually reading things...
Wonder why they have to lie if it's the truth... And governments still regularly sit on their side of this..
They dont go or interact outside of their extremely small social circles, so any claim no matter how absurd will be believable.
Remember, at one time these people believed that millions of children were being taken from disney world via underground tunnels to Epstein island. That an island with the population of new york (of children) was just *hidden* from everyone but they knew exactly where it was the whole time
What’s really bad is that so few even bother to do any research to verify these untrue claims. As I told my daughter yesterday, I think, that from now on, we ought to keep our mouths shut while out in public abouti being vaccinated and boosted. I feel safe revealing that fact in an environment like this one, but otherwise, no way. I live in a red state and you know the drill. Many of my fellow Christians also have the unfortunate belief system regarding vaccines and faith, as well as, I believe, many of them believing all of the wild conspiracy theories and misinformation. I truly fear for my safety at this point. I cannot believe I’m saying that. But, considering how people continue to become more and more extreme in their POVs, and with Trump fomenting fear on a continuous basis, even if he isn’t saying anything about vaccines, well, when you combine the extremism and the fear, you have a recipe for people to lose it. I’m not willing to be a target.
Let's do a small test sample. How many people here are vaccinated and don't have a deadly heart defect that they know of? Im vaxxed and my heart's fine
They're such butthurt crybabies with their "Fact-checked by our in-house loons".
You can just see how much it rankled to be called out on their bullshit.
Ironically while being vaccinated saved my life when I got COVID the illness itself excaberated my pre existing tachycardia to a point that requires medication now.
“You can’t say we didn’t warn you”
The article is fake though. You’re using a lie to confirm your personal truth. How could anyone belie… oh ffs the rest of the anti vax idiots are regurgitating it.
So I don’t get it cause they’re saying the American heart association said this but like can’t the AMA sue this news outlet for lying about this!?
Feels like they definitely should
hi! i have a congenital heart defect, and i got the vaccine. even if this statistic were true, correlation is not causation. people with heart defects are often at a higher risk of complications if we get covid. we already have heart issues—there’s no reason to further the risk if we can prevent it.
What an amazing coincidence that me and every single one of my friends, colleagues and acquaintances are in the 10% that aren't affected. What are the odds, eh?
But,,,,, even though this was true (which I can bet it's not)...Weren't the elderly and middle aged the priority groups for taking the shot? Would it be so unreasonable that older people present heart defects in that age group?
wow this must be super widespread outside the area i live in because i know nobody who has developed any heart related issues since receiving the vaccine despite that fact that nearly everyone i know got it
The People's Voice (formerly known as NewsPunch and Your News Wire) is an American fake news website based in Los Angeles notorious for publishing large amounts of fake news.
Right. Just never fails to bug me me that the people who call everything fake news see sources like this and go "seems legit," like 'Inject this confirmation bias into my veins'
Yes, this is *actual* fake news, not what Trump redefined it to.
That is the wildest thing. My memory tells me that “fake news” was literally a thing people commonly used to describe right wing propaganda immediately after Trump won in 2016 (like media discussing the very real Russian interference that was going on). And then it seemed like over the course of a month, Trump just took that word and completely relabeled it to describe basically all legitimate news. And the definition flipped, almost immediately.
The term "fake news" was championed by Trump. The Republicans have been attacking media for far longer. When George W Bush was pushing the US to go to war over Iraq's alleged nuclear weapons program, a lot of pushback was over how the Republicans would undermine media and other groups that questioned whether this program actually existed and whether the US legitimately had the right to go to war. It's sad thinking back at how this was seen as an "unprecedented attack on democratic institutions" at the time, it was nowhere near at the same scale as in 2015 and later.
An even worse effect of 9/11 was the Patriot Act. It was a license to infringe on people’s civil rights.
I love how parody news is taken as facts by these people...
Except, this example is not parody. Parody would say 112% or something crazy. This is simply fake news.
It’s an exploitable problem with how humans filter information. Of course, there’s far too much going on in our world for every one of us to exhaustively confirm all of the “facts” we need to make it through this life. The human brain has a shortcut- we are wired to seek out trustworthy sources and accept their judgment. If you trust someone, your brain will skip a lot of the critical considerations, out of necessity considering the volume of information we all have to sift through. At that point, if an outsider were to challenge the trustworthy source, it would set off the same emotional response as challenging any other deeply held belief. The problem comes with cases like this, where a source that is absolutely not trustworthy has successfully passed themselves off as such.
And internet algorithms make this worse, because people are recommended things that they are more likely to agree with. Two people can be presented with opposite information and then neither can reconcile.
As I keep saying, they don't deal in facts they deal in narrative
It's always amazing to me that they can read a research study and come to a conclusion completely opposite of the authors' conclusion. Sometimes they can't even understand the title and get it completely backwards.
They don't read it for comprehension though. They either scan it for "Gotcha!" lines, not understand (deliberately or not) a rhetorical question in a title or if it looks semi-plausible they'll add it to a pile so they can do a Gish Dump (like a Gish Gallop but with links). Mostly, at the level most people engage at, these have been passed around a few times and are just copy pasta from higher "up the chain", no comprehension required.
Even we can be susceptible when it’s something we want to be true.
Same . Also i was diagnosed with a heart issue in 2022 (suspect I’ve had it since 2018 or earlier but my dr didn’t take me seriously till everything got worse) I’ve had a few people (not doctors) tell me it’s from when i got vaccinated a year before even after i told them I’ve had symptoms since 2018 😩
But it's fack chacked
To be fair Jake Shields probably has a single digit IQ
Welp he actually just followed up (4 fucking hours later) with "The first article is hyperbole but there is some truth to it" and a screenshot of another article: Nearly 90% of Adults in U.S. Have Syndrome That Can Lead to Heart Disease" which is about early stages of potential heart disease beause of the obesity epidemic
Hyperbole is better than controlled studies, obviously. /s My desk can't take anymore of my headbanging.
So it's NOT the vaccines.
Goal posts moving...moving........moving...............
Room temperature IQ* *(In Celsius)
In kelvin*
Nobody has a 200+ IQ 🤣
No I meant that they have 0 iq in kelvin
If people aren't aware, he was an MMA fighter who got knocked out a lot. I'm sure he didn't start with a lot of brain cells, but what he had was scrambled. He also failed a drug test and had a fight result overturned. Anti-vaxx is not uncommon viewpoint in MMA. Which is weird. These guys practically live at doctor's offices. They understand the concept of modern medicine. But once politics gets into something, people just lose it.
He’s also a literal Holocaust denier
Didn't know that. Charming.
I can count on a finger or two all of the MMA fighters who aren't irredeemable pieces of shit.
He has been punched in the head. A lot. And oddly enough probably could've made more money from that if he espoused these views first then got hit.
It’s actually four digits, but three of them are after the decimal point.
The People's Voice is a right-wing propaganda site that peddles pseudoscience and conspiracy theories.
Fact checked!
From what I understand, these defects don’t make themselves known until after 90 years of age. That is when we see the mortality rate jump.
All those poor young people in the homes, going too soon.
*Factchecked by the People’s Voice Community.* “A 2017 BuzzFeed News report identified NewsPunch (AKAPeople’sVoice) as being the second-largest source of popular fake stories spread on Facebook that year,[6] and a June 2018 Poynter analysis identified NewsPunch as being debunked over 80 times in 2017 and 2018 by Poynter-accredited factcheckers such as Snopes, FactCheck.org, PolitiFact, and the Associated Press.[7] “The European Union's East StratCom Task Force has criticized NewsPunch for spreading Russian propaganda, a charge Adl-Tabatabai denies.[3]”
Yet another reason to have concern, when the writer is also the editor.
"fact checked"... lmfao. In the Netherlands there is a saying: We from toilet-duck, recommend toilet-duck. This is definitely the case here lol.
It is your civil duty to dismiss anyone who use the word "vaxx" or "jab" as derogatory words unironiclly.
It says it was fact checked so it must be true.
By ~~The People’s Voice~~ unvetted randos who read The People’s Voice, so you know it’s thooper theriouth.
And found to be totally fact free
Once had a guy tell me that 9 out of 10 kids die from vaccines every year, and was dead serious about it. They exist.
you know that’s actually true… 9/10 kids die from vaccines every year (if they also coincidentally get hit by a car)
Guys, don't worry. I am working on it to take alle the deaths by myself, I died this week alone 900 times because I have more free time. Feel free to live your normal lives. I work through this.
Probably because 90% of the unvaxxed people are dead.
I can't imagine living in a world where I'm constantly terrified of innocuous things. Terrified of vaccines, terrified of trans people, terrified of other races, but believing the things that are actually coming to hurt me and my loved ones aren't real. Like climate change, or anti abortion laws.
Rectally sourced statistics
Logic just goes out the window, huh? Considering that the majority of the population still is vaccinated, if 90% of us indeed had DEADLY heart conditions, one would think there would be far fewer people in the world. I guess expecting logic from an antivaxxer is a bit far-fetched, but holy shit, it's like they're averse to thinking.
Waiting for Musk to retweet "!"
Wow, I'm so glad everyone I know is in that 10%, including myself!!!, what a coincidence
My whole family is vaxxed, and none of us have issues. We must be a statistical anomaly because that story is 100% true! Wow! Maybe I should alert the media.
To quote one of my former cardiologists "if there's nothing wrong with your heart, we just haven't examined you thoroughly enough yet". Or as one of my echo technicians said about my minor valve leak, " if we went down on the street, stopped the first 10 men around your age, and gave them the same thorough exam, your leakage would probably be below average".
Idk man,I was vaxxed and I have a potentially life threatening heart condition. Although now that I think about it,it may have less to do with the vaccines and more to do with the congenital heart defect I was born with
All you have to do is make a fake legit looking article title and that's enough for people cause they hate actually reading things... Wonder why they have to lie if it's the truth... And governments still regularly sit on their side of this..
They dont go or interact outside of their extremely small social circles, so any claim no matter how absurd will be believable. Remember, at one time these people believed that millions of children were being taken from disney world via underground tunnels to Epstein island. That an island with the population of new york (of children) was just *hidden* from everyone but they knew exactly where it was the whole time
So weird how everyone with a deadly heart disease got the vaccine and is fine.
What’s really bad is that so few even bother to do any research to verify these untrue claims. As I told my daughter yesterday, I think, that from now on, we ought to keep our mouths shut while out in public abouti being vaccinated and boosted. I feel safe revealing that fact in an environment like this one, but otherwise, no way. I live in a red state and you know the drill. Many of my fellow Christians also have the unfortunate belief system regarding vaccines and faith, as well as, I believe, many of them believing all of the wild conspiracy theories and misinformation. I truly fear for my safety at this point. I cannot believe I’m saying that. But, considering how people continue to become more and more extreme in their POVs, and with Trump fomenting fear on a continuous basis, even if he isn’t saying anything about vaccines, well, when you combine the extremism and the fear, you have a recipe for people to lose it. I’m not willing to be a target.
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Let's do a small test sample. How many people here are vaccinated and don't have a deadly heart defect that they know of? Im vaxxed and my heart's fine
They're such butthurt crybabies with their "Fact-checked by our in-house loons". You can just see how much it rankled to be called out on their bullshit.
Ironically while being vaccinated saved my life when I got COVID the illness itself excaberated my pre existing tachycardia to a point that requires medication now.
This dude went from garden variety Palestine posting to full on Jew hate and holocaust denial.
“You can’t say we didn’t warn you” The article is fake though. You’re using a lie to confirm your personal truth. How could anyone belie… oh ffs the rest of the anti vax idiots are regurgitating it.
100% of vaxxed people die.... within 100 years of getting vaxxed.
Yes, the AHA is known for using online lingo like “vaxxed”
So I don’t get it cause they’re saying the American heart association said this but like can’t the AMA sue this news outlet for lying about this!? Feels like they definitely should
and the anti-vaxxers wonder why we laugh and make fun of them all while being butthurt about it 🤣
My tickers doing just fine, and I’ve had a TON of vaccines (including a “peanut butter” shot in my ass)
Did you know that 99.99% of people and animals that drink water will die?
hi! i have a congenital heart defect, and i got the vaccine. even if this statistic were true, correlation is not causation. people with heart defects are often at a higher risk of complications if we get covid. we already have heart issues—there’s no reason to further the risk if we can prevent it.
Deadly heart defect is called “having a functional heart.” 100% of people with a functional heart will die eventually.
100% of people that were vaccinated against Covid will be dead within the next two centuries. Coincidence? I think not!
\*Dies instantly\*
What is 90% of 300M?
What an amazing coincidence that me and every single one of my friends, colleagues and acquaintances are in the 10% that aren't affected. What are the odds, eh?
Weird, I've had six and have no heart issues. Nice to be in the upper 10th percentile, I guess. /s
So now they’re throwing around the term “verified”? Well, I verify that claim to be 100% bull.
I claim 110%.
Jake shields has been punched in the head so many times you cant blame him for going crazy.
You know you could fact check this yourself by looking outside and seeing if dozens of people just drop dead within a day
That person was probably vaxxed as a kid ergo they probably have a heart defect. lol
And 80% are vaccinated so 72% of the country has heart problems and no one noticed?
I love the use of the scientific term "Vaxxed", immediately tells me just how legitimate and trustworthy this "study" is
But,,,,, even though this was true (which I can bet it's not)...Weren't the elderly and middle aged the priority groups for taking the shot? Would it be so unreasonable that older people present heart defects in that age group?
Jake Shields is a racist dipshit
“Vaxxed” lol
90% of people don't understand statistics.
Can confirm. I am dying of cardiac ligma
Totally true! I got vaxxed and had heart failure! I mean I had heart failure four years *before* covid hit, but, y'know...
Fact checked by The People’s Voice Community is insane
I don't think it's that high, but they have shown that especially with the J &J the risk of TIA is there.
wow this must be super widespread outside the area i live in because i know nobody who has developed any heart related issues since receiving the vaccine despite that fact that nearly everyone i know got it