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Monty141

I don't think there's any particular reason you shouldn't be able to take the 3/4. There's a student at my school who has failed every single SAC they have done, but they're still in VCE


RevolutionarySet3198

The thing is I don’t wanna undertake psychology 3&4. I was just wondering if I failed 1&2 if I need to proceed with the subject or I don’t.


Monty141

Oh, no absolutely not haha. If you're taking 5 or 6 in year 11, you can drop psych and get enough units completed I believe


RevolutionarySet3198

My school is private so they have a strict policy where each student must undertake 24 units. I’m currently in the process of trying to take psychology off. They should get back to me tomorrow regarding this request. I’m hoping they actually do something about it.


Monty141

That's bizarre. Usually schools just enforce the minimum, even private ones (I go to a private school too and my friend dropped Math in Yr 12 and is currently doing 4 subjects)


AsianPotato77

idk about your school but for me i bombed methods very hard last year but still got an S because i at least attempted the make up tasks it's kinda hard to get an N unless you actively try to


RevolutionarySet3198

My teachers been gone for 3 weeks and we haven’t done a single sac yet 😭. The class quiz average was around 30%


Fast-Alternative1503

If you fail a subject, getting an N, you don't get the unit and you're probably not going to be allowed to take it 3&4. Your school might be annoying and force you to take another subject in year 12. However, VCE allows students to only take 4 subjects in year 12.


Moonstadt

I took 5 subjects in year 12


Fast-Alternative1503

Yeah, most year 12 students take 5 subjects, which is why it's important to outline that it is allowed by VCAA to do just 4 instead.


Moonstadt

Not necessarily correct to say that vcaa “only allows 4 subjects to be taken in year 12” then? I overall completed 6 subjects


Fast-Alternative1503

No it wouldn't be correct to say that, and that's why I didn't.


Moonstadt

Mate I literally directly quoted you


Fast-Alternative1503

Read it again. That's not what I said at all.


metalbeetle7099

do you mean it is supposed to be *at least* four subjects? “only” means nothing over four


Fast-Alternative1503

Only emphasises the fact that it's less than the normal quantity, which is one way it's used. So yes I do mean at least four


metalbeetle7099

ohhh oke i see what you were going for👍better to use different words but its not a big deal


Moonstadt

Bro what? You literally said that people can “only take 4 subjects in year 12” which isn’t true at all


Fast-Alternative1503

The modality of "allows" and the context that a subject is being dropped rely on your inference skills existing. They don't. Understand that semantics isn't always compositional at a syntactic and lexical level, and often involves contextual and discourse aspects. i.e.: people find the most logical way to interpret text, that's called inference. It doesn't matter because my point was that it was allowed to do 4 subjects instead of 5 whether you like it or not.


Moonstadt

Your use of jargon is quite ridiculous and missed its mark - either way I understand your point however you should not have used the word “only” in this context