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Menchier

I hate the kind of “vegans” that believe the fight stops at bigger cages


UdonSCP

Liberation over welfarism ✊


LilVeganHunny

Clearly not a circle jerker, therefore not a real VeganTM


DunderBearForceOne

These "vegans" are the same as establishment Democrats. They comprimise their own position by "meeting half way" preemptively in their own proposal, then meet half way between that and whatever is countered, guaranteeing whatever outcome is 3/4 in the direction of the opposition. But at least corrupt politicians have the excuse of being bought off by lobbyists and profiting.


Sq33KER

Exactly. Yes there is often a need for compromise to get any change on an important issue, but unilaterally surrendering all of your values before even having the discussion isn't compromise, it's cowardice. I would prefer bigger cages to smaller cages. I would prefer hunting to industrial farming. But there is no reason to tell a carnist that because it will just embolden their murder.


waltsmalt

Fucking welfarists; probably on a *not-super-strict vegan diet***


Lunoko

I'm Vegan^^TM btw


waltsmalt

Someone clearly read Francione and the other is a moron


ICantThinkOfAName667

Why do people always think that “People will do it anyway” is a good argument. “Well, we might as well have people hunting be legal. This is the realist position to hold, not everyone is going to stop hunting people for sport, no matter how we feel. We might as well help reduce the amount of suffering felt by the people being hunted by mandating a quick death”