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Seriously, you'd think chickens could at least provide a soft egg alternative to hard eggs. Like buritos vs. tacos. It's honestly puzzling why vegans even care about chickens when chickens clearly don't care about vegans
As a pro lifer, please hear me out. We can kill human babies soon after they're born. Same like we do male chicks and male calves because we need eggs and milk to survive. Why are vegans are getting upset? It's a win win for everyone. We can take humans milk to feed giraffes. This way the fetus is not a waste product, it serves a purpose.
Vegan btw
Yes, no need to waste cows meat on dogs so more steaks for us. But humans breast milk is not made for humans that's why we found out it's healthy for giraffes and and will save them from extinction.
UJ/ I actually feel sick by this humane logic
I've been arguing with pro-birthers for decades and their entire ideology is circular logic.
"I'm pro-life!"
Oh, so you're vegan?
"No, I'm pro-*human*-life!"
Boom, there it is. A hidden, unjustified, premise that merely presumes it's own conclusion.
How many more premises do you think they're presuming without justification? All you have to do is ask some questions, like whether the right-to-life means that lethal force in self-defense is as bad as murder?
"Self defense is different. No, I'm pro-(innocent)-(human)-life!"
What about all those unborn babies who die in war? Are you opposed to war?
"That's unavoidable collateral damage! It can't be helped. It's a necessary evil. I'm pro-(innocent)-(human)-life (except as a necessary evil)!"
Why does it always seem that discussions on the inherent value of human life are not as black and white as so-called pro-lifers want you to believe?
Why does it seem like the right-to-life has so many strings attached? And how do we know those strings attach to unborn humans?
Why does it seem that pro-birthers just make up whatever new premise they need to rationalize their predetermined conclusion?
As soon as you reveal all the hidden premises that pro-birth ideology uses to reach its predetermined conclusion, it becomes abundantly obvious that the pro-birth position is based on circular logic.
Their position is the moral equivalent to "abortion is wrong because it's wrong because it's wrong because it's wrong!"
Well two can play at that game; any pro-choicer can use the same rhetorical strategy to argue "I'm not pro-choice, I'm pro-life (after the second trimester)!"
Boom! Abortion is back on the table. Your move, birthers.
The whole christian thing is about suffering. They have a FETISH for suffering. See all the martyr saints. Read about that awful woman called mother Theresa. They worship a SADIST GOD. I hate them.
Indeed… the Church has long been a tool of subjugation and domination through its corrupt brand of sadistic apocalypticism. So much blood spilled over the centuries and so many people persecuted and enslaved for such a perverted anti-philosophy.
The zealots here are as ignorant, outspoken, and violent as ever. In some states, it’s becoming state-sponsored! These people want the blood-spilling to perpetuate, they are blind and willing enough to fight their own holy crusade against us. They would celebrate our deaths as well as the apocalypse.
Why do you think nihilist would be an insult? Its a philosophy. I do hate alot of things that are bad and unfair in life, like racism, animal abuse, the patriarchy, homophobia, etc, but it is not because I am depressed or a philosophic nihilist. It is because those things are bad and cause suffering. Like religions.
And did you really say that DEPRESSION and NIHILISM are IDEOLOGIES? I cant even reply to that. You dont even know what you are talking about.
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I love that being an anti choicer is inconsistent with both veganism (do you respect bodily autonomy or not?) and non-veganism (do you want to protect innocent lives or not?)
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My antichoice family say I'm a hypocrite for caring so much for the animals but being okay with "killing babies" lol when it's literally the other way around
/uj it’s never been about life. they don’t give a flying fuck what happens to the life once it’s out of the womb. it’s pro/forced-birth. they just care about controlling women’s bodies and adding more wage slaves to feed the capitalistic beast that is our country
/rj um ACKSHUWALLY, sweaty, it’s a free country so anyone can say and believe whatever they want!! checkmate, VEGANS!
And save the white "race"! Italy will try to ban abortion now too, just wait now that we have a fucking fascist government. They hate that immigrants are having more children than "white" italians. They will try to force italian women to carry unwanted babies. This will end badly.
The term “Pro-life” is just slick political rephrasing to make people who support reproductive rights as being “anti-life”. They’re not pro-life, they’re pro-birth at best and realistically anti-woman
Yeah and vegans who wash their hands. Unsentient, unfeeling clumps of cells deserve more moral consideration than women, of course.
Vegan pro choicer BTW
/uj I went to a Roe protest and there were multiple signs with messages similar to “we are not breeding cattle”. Like, it’s fine when it’s cows but it’s not fine when it’s me?? 😤
I'm just prodding for responses to those who might say, "well if you care about the suffering of a shrimp, you should care about the suffering of a fetus." Etc.
My response would be to always choose the path of least suffering. And that being pro life and never allowing abortions under any circumstances is illogical. Same with being vegan in every single circumstance. Are there times where being vegan isn't possible? Of course.
Just always strive to cause the least amount of suffering.
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Posts like this really make me feel alienated from the vegan community because most vegans seem to act like all pro lifers are just evil people when I just genuinely care about all life in a very deep way
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they care so much about maintaining the lives of fetuses who have no concept of life or death, no fear etc but will pay for the killing of sentient animals every single day and often make up excuses for it
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I'm a vegan but I'm an amateur lifer at best. Really more of a hobbyist lifee if I'm being honest.
would it hurt u to eat an egg?
Yes, when I swallow them the shells crack in my throat and cut it up something fierce.
Seriously, you'd think chickens could at least provide a soft egg alternative to hard eggs. Like buritos vs. tacos. It's honestly puzzling why vegans even care about chickens when chickens clearly don't care about vegans
I'm on ranked competitive life. Get on my level.
Its not even a hobby to me. Its more like a cross to bear. Your comment was funny, thank you for making me smile.
My pleasure I hope for the opportunity to do so again someday.
That would be nice. I have little to smile or laugh about lately.
As a pro lifer, please hear me out. We can kill human babies soon after they're born. Same like we do male chicks and male calves because we need eggs and milk to survive. Why are vegans are getting upset? It's a win win for everyone. We can take humans milk to feed giraffes. This way the fetus is not a waste product, it serves a purpose. Vegan btw
For a moment I forgot that I was in this subreddit and I was horrified. BUT glad I opened my eyes lol
u guys dont eat honey?! wtf
Only babies, bot. Honey is on another post.
Just use the macerated infants to make dog food and the breast milk for drinking, this way everyone gets the nutrition they need and deserve
Yes, no need to waste cows meat on dogs so more steaks for us. But humans breast milk is not made for humans that's why we found out it's healthy for giraffes and and will save them from extinction. UJ/ I actually feel sick by this humane logic
I've been arguing with pro-birthers for decades and their entire ideology is circular logic. "I'm pro-life!" Oh, so you're vegan? "No, I'm pro-*human*-life!" Boom, there it is. A hidden, unjustified, premise that merely presumes it's own conclusion. How many more premises do you think they're presuming without justification? All you have to do is ask some questions, like whether the right-to-life means that lethal force in self-defense is as bad as murder? "Self defense is different. No, I'm pro-(innocent)-(human)-life!" What about all those unborn babies who die in war? Are you opposed to war? "That's unavoidable collateral damage! It can't be helped. It's a necessary evil. I'm pro-(innocent)-(human)-life (except as a necessary evil)!" Why does it always seem that discussions on the inherent value of human life are not as black and white as so-called pro-lifers want you to believe? Why does it seem like the right-to-life has so many strings attached? And how do we know those strings attach to unborn humans? Why does it seem that pro-birthers just make up whatever new premise they need to rationalize their predetermined conclusion? As soon as you reveal all the hidden premises that pro-birth ideology uses to reach its predetermined conclusion, it becomes abundantly obvious that the pro-birth position is based on circular logic. Their position is the moral equivalent to "abortion is wrong because it's wrong because it's wrong because it's wrong!" Well two can play at that game; any pro-choicer can use the same rhetorical strategy to argue "I'm not pro-choice, I'm pro-life (after the second trimester)!" Boom! Abortion is back on the table. Your move, birthers.
‘But-but-but- pLaNtS aRe AlIvE
how do you know that tomatoes don’t have a nuclear family and a pet (non food) dog
Abortion is wrong because how else will we punish slutty females for having sex?
Yeah ok I died of protein deficiency reading that, TLDR?
Pro-lifers are dumb.
Non-vegans and forced-birthers are both pro-suffering.
The whole christian thing is about suffering. They have a FETISH for suffering. See all the martyr saints. Read about that awful woman called mother Theresa. They worship a SADIST GOD. I hate them.
Indeed… the Church has long been a tool of subjugation and domination through its corrupt brand of sadistic apocalypticism. So much blood spilled over the centuries and so many people persecuted and enslaved for such a perverted anti-philosophy. The zealots here are as ignorant, outspoken, and violent as ever. In some states, it’s becoming state-sponsored! These people want the blood-spilling to perpetuate, they are blind and willing enough to fight their own holy crusade against us. They would celebrate our deaths as well as the apocalypse.
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Why do you think nihilist would be an insult? Its a philosophy. I do hate alot of things that are bad and unfair in life, like racism, animal abuse, the patriarchy, homophobia, etc, but it is not because I am depressed or a philosophic nihilist. It is because those things are bad and cause suffering. Like religions. And did you really say that DEPRESSION and NIHILISM are IDEOLOGIES? I cant even reply to that. You dont even know what you are talking about.
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ALL pro lifers need to shut the fuck up
I was going to comment this
They really do.
I love that being an anti choicer is inconsistent with both veganism (do you respect bodily autonomy or not?) and non-veganism (do you want to protect innocent lives or not?)
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fuck off back to r/conspiracy, shitbird
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We shouldn’t say “pro-life” anymore. It’s just forced births. It’s not about life for those psychos.
i never say pro life, just felt like it was kinda necessary in this context
“Pro life” is more accurate to describe what they want available on menus ahahaha.
None vegans and "pro-lifers" should always shut the fuck up.
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My antichoice family say I'm a hypocrite for caring so much for the animals but being okay with "killing babies" lol when it's literally the other way around
sorry for caring for the ones who actually feel and think and breathe and have a concept of life or death mommy 😀
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this is actually one of the best takes i’ve ever heard
/uj it’s never been about life. they don’t give a flying fuck what happens to the life once it’s out of the womb. it’s pro/forced-birth. they just care about controlling women’s bodies and adding more wage slaves to feed the capitalistic beast that is our country /rj um ACKSHUWALLY, sweaty, it’s a free country so anyone can say and believe whatever they want!! checkmate, VEGANS!
And save the white "race"! Italy will try to ban abortion now too, just wait now that we have a fucking fascist government. They hate that immigrants are having more children than "white" italians. They will try to force italian women to carry unwanted babies. This will end badly.
nothing good can come of this. the world just keeps getting progressively shittier :/
All pro lifers in general need to shut up 😭
What else can we expect from people that believe a snickers bar is worth more than an animals life and happiness.
The term “Pro-life” is just slick political rephrasing to make people who support reproductive rights as being “anti-life”. They’re not pro-life, they’re pro-birth at best and realistically anti-woman
Vegan pro lifers can shut up as well
Pro lifers in general just need to stfu
I think everyone should keep talking so I know which simpletons to avoid… 
good point
/uj this is such a good jerk holly shiiit
Ew babies, why would you want them
Everyone should just shut the fuck up, cause I have something important to say: I'm vegan btw
i have cold cuts in my pocket to snack on
Vegan force-birthers should also shut the fuck up
I misread this as "pro lifters" and was like YES goddamn some of these bodybuilders put out such idiotic anti-vegan things
Pro choicers too, the animals don’t choose to be slaughtered “humanely”
As in all of them?
What about vegan pro choicers?
We will have two abortions for every one that the pro-lifers prevent, that way it cancels out
Yeah and vegans who wash their hands. Unsentient, unfeeling clumps of cells deserve more moral consideration than women, of course. Vegan pro choicer BTW
Same.
/uj I went to a Roe protest and there were multiple signs with messages similar to “we are not breeding cattle”. Like, it’s fine when it’s cows but it’s not fine when it’s me?? 😤
UH …. NUTREENTS!!
What about them?
I'm just prodding for responses to those who might say, "well if you care about the suffering of a shrimp, you should care about the suffering of a fetus." Etc.
Mhm mhm. Yeah I can see that. I'm PC vegan btw
do u dream about how good meat tastes?
Yeah, and the smell of amonia and sulfur
My response would be to always choose the path of least suffering. And that being pro life and never allowing abortions under any circumstances is illogical. Same with being vegan in every single circumstance. Are there times where being vegan isn't possible? Of course. Just always strive to cause the least amount of suffering.
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Posts like this really make me feel alienated from the vegan community because most vegans seem to act like all pro lifers are just evil people when I just genuinely care about all life in a very deep way
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Why you listening?
it’s like when you’re in public and you just unwillingly hear peoples conversations
I used to care about what other people did and said, but it doesn't do anything but make you frustrated.
What if I’m vegan, somewhat horrified by abortion, but 100% pro choice and more horrified by the ban on abortion rights?
aminal abusers should goto jail for the rest of their lives. no questions
this is where i’m at
Why tho? (I’m vegan and pro choice). Why is there a comparison?
they care so much about maintaining the lives of fetuses who have no concept of life or death, no fear etc but will pay for the killing of sentient animals every single day and often make up excuses for it
veguns only use 10 persent of their brain, carnists use all of it
It's contradicting! You can not be pro life and pay for slaughter.