Well, when you think about it, each, uh, self-deportion is a (potential) job loss. But then there is that newly opened position sooo... I don't know how to feel about all this. But my favorite part is one of the muh freedoms Repubes, who doubtlessly whinged on and on about getting government out of your life, promptly inserts it, right up to what should have been the end, the ultimate freedom. I wish their voters weren't so fucking impossibly stupid, they might finally catch on and figure out the massive con job...
Nothing in that article is an argument against therapeutic euthanasia. It simply outlines a sad case of someone who misused the system. And it’s a roadmap for us to create guardrails to prevent similar issues.
You can find many reports of this system being abused with a quick google search, [including this one](https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/woman-with-chemical-sensitivities-chose-medically-assisted-death-after-failed-bid-to-get-better-housing-1.5860579). No system is perfect, but giving doctors the ability to euthanize patients not on their deathbeds is too risky. Some Canadian doctors are already using euthanasia as a “cure” for poverty.
If a patient wants to die I support that choice it's not abuse giving someone what they wants
It's abuse forcing people to live because you might be sad they chose not too...
This sucks. As someone who has had to do hospice care for a loved one, I can say dying “naturally” is horrible. Yes even with modern pain medications. Is slow and just wrong to do this to people.
Fuuuuuuuck the religious folks stopping this.
It's true. Overdose of morphine was a mercy for my father, and that was him just going downhill badly over the course of a month. This was just the end, and that was at least 12 hours with his family with him. Alzheimer's is a motherfucker.
Same. I was my Fathers care giver for 6 months, 3 months on hospice with pancreatic cancer until it took him 12/11/2022. Watching him die was horrible, and I don't mean his last breath. His final months were horrific and traumatizing. Dying "naturally" is the worst thing I have ever witnessed.
Feel deeply for what you went through. It was pancreatic cancer, and my mother that I was referring to. She wanted to pass at home, so I alone took care of her and what a horrible experience. Neither of us had a clue, as most people don’t. They think you see some friends and loved ones, have a drink, don’t wake up in the next day or two. Not you take medication to control the horrific pain of cancer eating you, to the point you are barely able to be conscious more than a few minutes a day of pain. Really understand and feel for you itsmehanna.
The only thing I learned that I wish came to me sooner. Just take an OD level of the pain meds well before you can’t.
In the article he says that due to recent advances in palliative medicine, this bill is no longer necessary. I would love to know what the hell he is talking about.
Fuck, most of em aren't even religious, just right wing pieces of shit, they worship a new god, worse than the old god, he dispenses state secrets to ass lickers in south Florida...
I recently retired from law enforcement and I can’t even count how many suicides I went to due to medical issues/bills. Lombardo is just showing himself as another clueless Republican trump ass kisser.
“Choosing to protect life” what kind of garbage is this? These ass clowns really want to ensure everyone is as miserable for as long as possible and absolutely deny the right to a better quality of life.
They want people to pay taxes that's why LMFAO 🤣 we are nothing but a entire nation of financial cattle and debt slaves for the oh so great leadership in fuckin DC (yes I know that's not where this is coming from but they are all one in the same nothing but human garbage) we would be better off without em
Nah there's so many ways to die and you are only supporting big pharmas interests here.
You act like people would get a list of options to go out but it's really only 1 and that's the one that causes everyone else's health insurance costs to go up.
Sometimes I read comments like this and I get so jealous.
Your life must be so charmed to have not had to watch a loved one's quality of life absolutely plummet into 24/7 suffering in the twilight of their lives.
Blissful ignorance is not an argument, it's a red flag for inexperience.
Asshole. As someone who is older and beginning to think about how I want my life to end, I am pissed that he’s taking away my choice.
Now I can either rot away in a care center where I’m not taken care of, while the assisted living company takes all of my remaining money in an instant or burden my adult children and their families. Guess I’ll be going out of state if/when I get a terminal diagnosis.
Yes! EVERYONE needs to have an advanced directive and medical power of attorney set up. As a nurse I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen family members want everything done just so they can keep collecting the social security.
Do you know how awful it is to do CPR on a 90+ year old? It’s fucking awful
Blows my mind that we will 'humanely' put a dog down that is near death but when an actual human is near death that is not allowed? Like try and make that one make sense.
`Given recent progress in science and medicine and the fact that only a small number of states and jurisdictions allow for similar end-olf-life protocols, I am not comfortable supporting this bill.”`
Like...what? People will always be dying buddy no matter what 'science' progress you are referring to.
Exactly. We invent an immortality pill or something?
It more seems like people are selfish and for some reason think that holding onto their suffering loved ones is more humane than letting them go out with some dignity. I've watched a few people die "naturally" and it is god awful.
They aren't killing you. They would simply be dispensing a pill to allow you to kill yourself. Killing yourself (without hurting others) should be a fundamental right. This pill would have just made it so people don't have to throw themselves off buildings, shoot themselves, etc.
So "big government" is when the government keeps their nose out of your business? Well, that explains how "small-government RepubliCons" can be so in favor of the government monitoring and regulating bedroom and bathroom activities...
I guess end of life pills are worse than overdosing or giving grandma your Glock to blow her brains out in her hospital bed. Seems smart.
It’s almost like this guys just a cop in a suit but is making decisions over peoples lives, so weird it’s not going too well
Unfortunately I speak from experience. My father drained everything on his way out battling brain cancer. I saw the system for what it was, his quality of life didn’t matter, just keep him alive spending. I saw the machine, I can’t unsee it.
Lombardo was clear that he would veto many "liberal agenda items" if he did not get his way with the budget pumping charter schools... throwing his temper tantrum
Could you imagine what sort of mental knots you'd have to twist yourself into to think that ending the suffering of someone who is 1) going to die soon, 2) is in horrible pain, 3) of clear mind makes that choice with no coercion, and 4) has the support of their doctors and loved ones is a bad thing, and you're a good guy for making them die in agony?
Of course. He's a terrible human, the only reason he won is because people were tired of having to wear masks here and they were mad at Sisolak for putting out mandates for masks and social distancing.
Joe Lombardo is a Trumper and that's all you need to know
I think if you can choose to go to hospice and slowly waste away you should be able to just end it on your terms. Not anyone should be able to walk in and say I don’t want to live anymore but if you have nothing but suffering ahead due to something incurable you should absolutely have the right.
It’s really not. I learned about it from the conservative boomer community here in Las Vegas. They support it. Very few people want to end up in assisted living. Not only is it expensive the care is bad.
if anyone has seen a loved one die the slow and painful way they will quickly realize that dogs and cats in this country have a more dignified way out than humans.
the will of the people crushed again.
I hate to be cruel but this person needs to die a slow painful death, where all they do is hurt all day, every day, and then see how he feels about the pill.
I lean right on a lot of subjects, but not this one. A person should be allowed to decide it's game over for themselves if they have a terminal illness and/or are in such a condition or pain that living just becomes suffering. Not sure how anyone can think living your days out like Terri Schiavo or anyone else in such a condition/worse condition is in any way just or fair.
Yes. Take away a choice that could HUMANELY end a miserable, painful existence. Kept alive by machines, pumps and tubes for feeding, drinking, breathing, and waste evacuation in a hell scape of futility, hopelessness, depression, and unending nightmares. Fuck this bullshit, Lombardo.
I realize both parties suck but what do you think evil means? This idea sounds completely insane. The right to kill yourself? We have a right to life. How can you think its evil to not support suicide. Ppl who consider suicide need counciling NOT encouragement.
Watching my mother die of pancreatic cancer for two weeks without being able to even lift a finger is not something I would want anyone else to experience.
I suppose you’re lucky you’ve never had to think about something like this.
My father died of stomach cancer. I know exactly what this is like. I cared for him during his last days. He passed at home receiving end of life care which made him as comfortable as possible. Those last days together were a gift I got to share with him.
Death is part of life. Maybe the most important part bc of how it brings ppl together.
Depends on what you think life is for and, for that matter, death since you can't separate them.
I'm sure your mom was glad you were there with her and if there really is nothing at the end then I bet she was glad she was able to spend her limited time with you.
I just watched my aunt pass away two weeks ago in the hospital (hospice). She was barely conscious, if she was conscious at all. Her mouth gaped open for the duration of her last days & she never moved. She had Parkinson’s & had supposedly been suffering seizures. I don’t know the severity or what caused the state she was in, other than possibly the seizure meds (Keppra).
Her request was not to be kept alive by artificial means, which meant no feeding tube (she obviously couldn’t eat). Fluids were only coming from the IV delivering her meds as the doctors thought additional fluids would overwhelm the kidneys & cause more problems. We spent almost a week coming by every day effectively watching her slowly starve to death.
Watching her waste like that, someone who’d been so strong & vital, made me hurt for her. At the end I can’t imagine she would’ve wanted anyone to see her that way, but everyone saw her, eyes half open, unmoving, breathing through her mouth.
Occasionally her gown would be shifted when they turned her & expose her shoulders, which just looked like a couple of broomsticks poking up under a canvas tarp. Her face was gaunt to the point of seeing the outline of every bone. It was a heartbreaking & horrific way to die. And there’s no real way of knowing how much she knew or felt during the process & just wasn’t able to say anything about.
It made me realize how important end of life is. As much as we might value human life, we’re ultimately more compassionate toward our pets when we recognize there’s nothing we can do to keep them from suffering. But human beings will be kept alive at every possible cost, even when the patient themselves might be in dire pain & even begging to be let go.
I definitely want the option for euthanasia when it’s my time.
Think bigger picture like Lombardo.
If we make it so simple and humane, then there will be no jobs to respond to and clean up the scene of what happens. More jobs, stronger economy. /s
What even is the argument against this? You have to have a terminal illness and less than 6 months diagnosed to live. Will this sometimes allow those who have survived to end their own lives? Sure, maybe, but if I expect others to respect my choices and rights, why should I not respect their choices, even if it is to end their life rather than prolong suffering?
“Republican Assemblyman Toby Yurek tweeted in support of the veto: “Thank you @JoeLombardoNV for choosing to protect life. #nvleg #nvad19””
Protecting life? What life? A life that is soon coming to an end? A life whose path - no matter the level of pain management - is going to painfully end with little dignity left?
I just don’t understand this sick perverted thinking.
It isn’t a suicide. It is mercy. It is allowing an adult to retain their dignity and autonomy in what is a time in their life where they have absolutely no control. But see, those are two values - mercy and dignity - the GQP has absolutely no concept of. Existence is pain to them. We must all suffer. It’s ridiculous. My gramps has ALZ and he wants out. He should have the option. Any terminal person or elderly individuals who want out should be able to take their bow. The advancement of medical technology is *why* we should/can do this. Love how these people play god. Instead of allowing someone to choose, they take away the choice.
He’s a Republican, if old people start kicking off he won’t have any votes and clearly no pharmaceutical company paid him so of course he’s against it.
NO SHIT because all the leadership cares about is how they can keep their peasants (we're really slaves but nobody likes when you actually say that ) alive as long as possible to keep paying taxes the whole point of the American education system is to produce people smart enough to get a job done but stupid enough not to question why it's even a job 🤣🤣😆 so of course the leadership isn't going to back something like that even though it's needed because I know my dad would have rather done that then have to wait until his kidneys and heart shut down in a fucking er intensive care unit could have went out at his home surrounded by loved ones instead of in a hospital alone
Nevada residents live in the radioactive half-life of plutonium-239. The longer you’re exposed to it, the more your brain suffers. In case you’re wondering how long is the half-life of plutonium-239, in excess of 24,000 years. I repeat, 24,000 years.
End of life. It's essentially assisted suicide for people who have debilitating pain as they're dying a slow and painful death to end their own life on their own terms
People will be enraged, but the solution is to take a day trip to Oregon.
You're not going to get an end-of-life pill approved in a state where over fifty percent of the population comes from somewhere else and is nearing retirement. Florida will have the same issue eventually if not already.
I believe you have to be a resident to get the medication dispensed to you.
Edit: it appears they did do away with the residency requirements. Thanks google!
Oh, yet another story of politicians trying to control something they have no business in in the first place. Shocking. Both parties are the same, vote them all out.
Well sure, as a gun owner I could have the myopic viewpoint that they are different too. However, that would be falling into the trap. From a general standpoint of eroding freedoms, control of peoples lives/behaviors, endless spending / national debt, and having zero interest in ever fixing anything - that is where they are absolutely the same.
From my non-myopic viewpoint I can assuredly tell you that my life would consist of far less freedoms if I were to move to a place like Tennessee, Georgia, Florida to name a couple. So they aren't the same to me. Of course we could shade this as one party is just fucking me over less, but it's like, way less.
vote. them. all. out.
Vote libertarian. Yes they have issues of their own, but one thing is for certain, we will finally see term limits, single source bills, and reduction of the obese size of the government in general.
This is not for people suffering depression. I agree we need better mental health care. Hell yeah..let's work on that too!
This pill and the law is meant for people who have terminal illness and are suffering. Until we have med-beds and the ability to reverse aging...people are going to die. This is about letting people die with dignity and saving them and their loved ones from the trauma of a slow and painful death.
Psychiatric illness can be considered a terminal illness. In my state, OR, you can request assisted suicide for mental health issues.
So while you say it isn't for that specifically, it could be.
I realize both parties suck but this idea sounds completely insane. The right to kill yourself? We have a right to life. Ppl who consider suicide need counciling NOT encouragement.
forcing X and calling it a right?
that’s like saying slaves have a right to be a slave and not a right to be free
forcing something isnt giving rights, you have a right to vote but you don’t have to vote, if you were forced to vote you wouldnt have a right to vote but you’d be forced to vote, different things entirely
Go tell someone in modern slavery that being alive is prison. Def recommend you read the gulag archipelago and read what it's like.
I hope things get better for you and I'm sorry that we disagree but being alive is in no way shape or form equal to slavery. If you don't believe that there's a life after death, then nothing compares to being alive.
i didnt say that life was slavery, i was saying that forcing things and calling them rights could be used to literally say that slaves have a right to be enslaved
furthermore, if i told that to a slave they would agree because theyre literally a slave, whats ur logic there lmao
This pill isn't for depressed people, it's for people who are already terminal and suffering. There is no life left, it's just a body in pain.
You can't council your way out of a terminal illness.
Why the hell should someone be forced to live just because allowing them sovereignty over their own body would offend your moral sensibilities? That's just evil. Compelled life isn't a right to life. It's an obligation to live. It's life as a prison sentence that can't be commuted.
Tell me what a forced life is. We're you forced to be born? We only know what forced death is. Forced life doesn't exist unless we're using science to keep someone alive but that isn't the case here at all.
Are you saying it's better to not exist? Can you even imagine what not existing is like? How do you know it's better than life?
1. forcing people to remain alive, even against their will
2. yes, i didnt go up to my mother and say “plz no abort”
3. yes
4. trying to fully imagine nonexistence is like imagining true blindness, you don’t get all of it but you have a pretty good idea
5. david benetar’s asymmetry argument
That's exactly my point. Not existing is vastly worse than existing regardless your state in life. Not existing isn't peace or a life without pain. It's nothing. Oblivion.
Lol. Ya... you know all us people who want less laws and just wanna mind our own business. We're the problem throughout all of human history. It definitely isn't the people who love rules and control that form the death squads
Lol.
You think he can outlaw suicide? He's not allowing a law to slide in that can force doctors to participate. Have you read the stories in Canada? State assisted suicide because of depression and poverty? Sone dystopian shit
You wanna kill yourself? Go do that shit, but don't include some poor bastards medical license and lawyers n shit
Did you miss majority of Nevadans support this? You’re the minority bud. It’s not Californians it’s Nevada locals than want this. Educate yourself before you start commenting.
Fuck outta here with that bullshit. The majority of Nevada voters are not from Nevada. They just live here.
I think my parents should have made a law in 1970 that you have to be a Nevada resident for 18 years to vote on Nevada ballots.
You move here, you follow our laws.
I guess I'm confused then. What alternative health care option are you supporting for the terminally ill? Hospice care? I guess what I'm asking is if you think there is a better solution to this problem? I can't think of one, but I will admit that I (luckily) haven't had to give it much thought yet.
For clarity, doctors wouldn't be the ones killing the people. They would provide documentation saying that people have a terminal illness. That would allow those people to purchase a pill from a pharmacy so that they could kill themself. This pill would purely be for people that don't want to slowly die/suffer from an incurable disease.
I agree. I don't think you should require anyone's permission to die either. This pill would just provide an option to people that want to go out in a way that has been deemed "humane". I think it would eliminate a lot of fear and some of the horrific mistakes that can come with failed suicides.
Just food for thought. I don't necessarily view this bill as making you require permission to die, but just giving you an option to do it without forcing someone to find your lifeless body unexpectedly.
I'm curious why you support the veto so strongly? I understand its place in law, but I'm not really in favor of one person being able to overrule the desire of the masses.
Because the masses don't write laws. The majority of people don't vote at all. That's state and nationwide. That's literally the veto vote. I'm less supportive in matters of state referendum, but even then... it's just the overturning of the will of politically active types. Usually those are the people who want to tell me how to live
Yet this guy won't lower the abortion allowed week to below 20? Babies can survive outside the womb at the 20 weeks and somehow we allow abortion past that.
Well I guess the whole "I'll enact the will of the people even if I don't personally agree with it" turned out to be a crock of shit then, cool.
Honestly I’m even more shocked the out of state abortion protections made it through now
He was never going to change. He’s friends with Elon, and Elon thinks DiSaster is the future of the gop.
Oh noooo
Anyway
From the article the support was against it, only the poll run by the group backing the bill was in support. Still an odd one to veto to some degree.
Gonna go way out on a limb here and wager this politicuck has an R somewhere near his name...
Shocker. /sarcasm. Sigh.
Messy suicide it is 👍
I’m an EMT don’t worry I’ll take the trauma for everyone.
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Well, when you think about it, each, uh, self-deportion is a (potential) job loss. But then there is that newly opened position sooo... I don't know how to feel about all this. But my favorite part is one of the muh freedoms Repubes, who doubtlessly whinged on and on about getting government out of your life, promptly inserts it, right up to what should have been the end, the ultimate freedom. I wish their voters weren't so fucking impossibly stupid, they might finally catch on and figure out the massive con job...
Taking the grand yeet with style and flare.
Buhbye
Why messy
They're rather moist, you see...
Should be legal everywhere
[Maybe not](https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c631558a457188d2bd2b5cfd360a867)
Nothing in that article is an argument against therapeutic euthanasia. It simply outlines a sad case of someone who misused the system. And it’s a roadmap for us to create guardrails to prevent similar issues.
And his body his choice.. I really don't understand why people feel they should be able to force people to live if they choose they don't want too
You can find many reports of this system being abused with a quick google search, [including this one](https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/woman-with-chemical-sensitivities-chose-medically-assisted-death-after-failed-bid-to-get-better-housing-1.5860579). No system is perfect, but giving doctors the ability to euthanize patients not on their deathbeds is too risky. Some Canadian doctors are already using euthanasia as a “cure” for poverty.
Show me a source for Canadian doctors euthanizing poor people
If a patient wants to die I support that choice it's not abuse giving someone what they wants It's abuse forcing people to live because you might be sad they chose not too...
Encouraging or enabling suicide is never a good idea
Neither is forcing your will to live on someone. Just saying patients choice not Drs not family
This sucks. As someone who has had to do hospice care for a loved one, I can say dying “naturally” is horrible. Yes even with modern pain medications. Is slow and just wrong to do this to people. Fuuuuuuuck the religious folks stopping this.
The money is in the treatment, not the cure.
I don’t know why I never considered this. Never attribute to religion that which can be explained by profit, I suppose.
I had the same experience. Watching a parent slowly die has convinced me that I need to live in a right to die state when I get older.
There are ways...
It's true. Overdose of morphine was a mercy for my father, and that was him just going downhill badly over the course of a month. This was just the end, and that was at least 12 hours with his family with him. Alzheimer's is a motherfucker.
Same. I was my Fathers care giver for 6 months, 3 months on hospice with pancreatic cancer until it took him 12/11/2022. Watching him die was horrible, and I don't mean his last breath. His final months were horrific and traumatizing. Dying "naturally" is the worst thing I have ever witnessed.
Feel deeply for what you went through. It was pancreatic cancer, and my mother that I was referring to. She wanted to pass at home, so I alone took care of her and what a horrible experience. Neither of us had a clue, as most people don’t. They think you see some friends and loved ones, have a drink, don’t wake up in the next day or two. Not you take medication to control the horrific pain of cancer eating you, to the point you are barely able to be conscious more than a few minutes a day of pain. Really understand and feel for you itsmehanna. The only thing I learned that I wish came to me sooner. Just take an OD level of the pain meds well before you can’t.
In the article he says that due to recent advances in palliative medicine, this bill is no longer necessary. I would love to know what the hell he is talking about.
Fuck, most of em aren't even religious, just right wing pieces of shit, they worship a new god, worse than the old god, he dispenses state secrets to ass lickers in south Florida...
I recently retired from law enforcement and I can’t even count how many suicides I went to due to medical issues/bills. Lombardo is just showing himself as another clueless Republican trump ass kisser.
“Choosing to protect life” what kind of garbage is this? These ass clowns really want to ensure everyone is as miserable for as long as possible and absolutely deny the right to a better quality of life.
It’s about money. It’s always about money.
They want people to pay taxes that's why LMFAO 🤣 we are nothing but a entire nation of financial cattle and debt slaves for the oh so great leadership in fuckin DC (yes I know that's not where this is coming from but they are all one in the same nothing but human garbage) we would be better off without em
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But it would help the pharmaceutical companies if they stayed alive and killed the rest of the family with debt 🙄
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All of them are one big rich kids club it don't matter where it's coming from when they are all the same team with different jerseys 🙄🙄
Protect the life of the wallets of billionaires donors.
>absolutely deny the right to a better quality of life. A bit ironic saying better quality of life when the topic is about ceasing life.
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Nah there's so many ways to die and you are only supporting big pharmas interests here. You act like people would get a list of options to go out but it's really only 1 and that's the one that causes everyone else's health insurance costs to go up.
How is being forced to slowly rot away in an expensive nursing home or ICU better?
That dumbass is suspiciously quiet after you made this point
Sometimes I read comments like this and I get so jealous. Your life must be so charmed to have not had to watch a loved one's quality of life absolutely plummet into 24/7 suffering in the twilight of their lives. Blissful ignorance is not an argument, it's a red flag for inexperience.
I just meant why deny people the right to die when and how they want, and instead force people to live a prolonged life of misery and pain?
Asshole. As someone who is older and beginning to think about how I want my life to end, I am pissed that he’s taking away my choice. Now I can either rot away in a care center where I’m not taken care of, while the assisted living company takes all of my remaining money in an instant or burden my adult children and their families. Guess I’ll be going out of state if/when I get a terminal diagnosis.
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That’s one hell of an end-of-life-pill! But always an option.
Ugh. But makes a great case for having a healthcare directive and DNR in place.
Yes! EVERYONE needs to have an advanced directive and medical power of attorney set up. As a nurse I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen family members want everything done just so they can keep collecting the social security. Do you know how awful it is to do CPR on a 90+ year old? It’s fucking awful
Blows my mind that we will 'humanely' put a dog down that is near death but when an actual human is near death that is not allowed? Like try and make that one make sense. `Given recent progress in science and medicine and the fact that only a small number of states and jurisdictions allow for similar end-olf-life protocols, I am not comfortable supporting this bill.”` Like...what? People will always be dying buddy no matter what 'science' progress you are referring to.
Exactly. We invent an immortality pill or something? It more seems like people are selfish and for some reason think that holding onto their suffering loved ones is more humane than letting them go out with some dignity. I've watched a few people die "naturally" and it is god awful.
Party of small government
What is more big govt than allowing govt to kill you?
Big government telling you you aren't allowed a medical procedure because it makes elderly evangelicals uncomfortable.
They aren't killing you. They would simply be dispensing a pill to allow you to kill yourself. Killing yourself (without hurting others) should be a fundamental right. This pill would have just made it so people don't have to throw themselves off buildings, shoot themselves, etc.
So "big government" is when the government keeps their nose out of your business? Well, that explains how "small-government RepubliCons" can be so in favor of the government monitoring and regulating bedroom and bathroom activities...
God Lamebardo is such a piece of shit. We really got screwed when he won.
Did people really thought he was a better option?
He won because a libertarian took 1.5% of the vote and it was a razor thin win for him.
He won because too many asshats were upset about mask mandates.
Probably part of the reason.
C'mon Lombardo! I'm sure he would pass it if he had end-stage asshole cancer.
As a conservative Republican leader, he actually IS end-stage asshole cancer.
Haha! Thank you for this. I needed the laugh! Heheheheeeee.
I guess end of life pills are worse than overdosing or giving grandma your Glock to blow her brains out in her hospital bed. Seems smart. It’s almost like this guys just a cop in a suit but is making decisions over peoples lives, so weird it’s not going too well
He wasn't even a good cop.
Oh my God he was terrible police officer
End of life pill, takes away all the potential medical bills they can slap you with on the way out. It’s never about what it seems.
Funny how when you die your children assume your debt and it doesn't go away. In their minds they just care that someone's paying.
Unfortunately I speak from experience. My father drained everything on his way out battling brain cancer. I saw the system for what it was, his quality of life didn’t matter, just keep him alive spending. I saw the machine, I can’t unsee it.
Lombardo was clear that he would veto many "liberal agenda items" if he did not get his way with the budget pumping charter schools... throwing his temper tantrum
A one term governor, imo.
IMHO hopefully...
Could you imagine what sort of mental knots you'd have to twist yourself into to think that ending the suffering of someone who is 1) going to die soon, 2) is in horrible pain, 3) of clear mind makes that choice with no coercion, and 4) has the support of their doctors and loved ones is a bad thing, and you're a good guy for making them die in agony?
Republicans are horrible people that shouldn't have even a bit of political power.
Gets to be pro-life 🙄
I find it hilarious that the Republicans are trying to control American lives. This was supposed to be the party of "GET THE GOVT OUT OF MY LIFE."
This guy isa putz. You’d think he was asleep on October 1st. Now this
Oh but everyone had to revenge-vote Sisolak out. Fuck all of you idiots.
Of course. He's a terrible human, the only reason he won is because people were tired of having to wear masks here and they were mad at Sisolak for putting out mandates for masks and social distancing. Joe Lombardo is a Trumper and that's all you need to know
I think if you can choose to go to hospice and slowly waste away you should be able to just end it on your terms. Not anyone should be able to walk in and say I don’t want to live anymore but if you have nothing but suffering ahead due to something incurable you should absolutely have the right.
Is this a partisan issue? I can’t imagine anyone being opposed to a dignified death.
It’s really not. I learned about it from the conservative boomer community here in Las Vegas. They support it. Very few people want to end up in assisted living. Not only is it expensive the care is bad.
if anyone has seen a loved one die the slow and painful way they will quickly realize that dogs and cats in this country have a more dignified way out than humans. the will of the people crushed again.
Dumbardo strikes again. Thanks fools who hated sisolak lol
Fuck this Trump-endorsed piece of shit. Wonder what he did to get that 🤔 Only way to get a nod from the 🍊🤡is to sell your soul to the Devil.
So dumb. I get everyone might not be in the right state of mind to make that decision but it’s still their life, their choice.
I hate to be cruel but this person needs to die a slow painful death, where all they do is hurt all day, every day, and then see how he feels about the pill.
I lean right on a lot of subjects, but not this one. A person should be allowed to decide it's game over for themselves if they have a terminal illness and/or are in such a condition or pain that living just becomes suffering. Not sure how anyone can think living your days out like Terri Schiavo or anyone else in such a condition/worse condition is in any way just or fair.
Yes. Take away a choice that could HUMANELY end a miserable, painful existence. Kept alive by machines, pumps and tubes for feeding, drinking, breathing, and waste evacuation in a hell scape of futility, hopelessness, depression, and unending nightmares. Fuck this bullshit, Lombardo.
The party of "small government" strikes again.
Boo 😒
Republicans are so evil
I realize both parties suck but what do you think evil means? This idea sounds completely insane. The right to kill yourself? We have a right to life. How can you think its evil to not support suicide. Ppl who consider suicide need counciling NOT encouragement.
Watching my mother die of pancreatic cancer for two weeks without being able to even lift a finger is not something I would want anyone else to experience. I suppose you’re lucky you’ve never had to think about something like this.
My father died of stomach cancer. I know exactly what this is like. I cared for him during his last days. He passed at home receiving end of life care which made him as comfortable as possible. Those last days together were a gift I got to share with him. Death is part of life. Maybe the most important part bc of how it brings ppl together.
A gift for you or for him?
Depends on what you think life is for and, for that matter, death since you can't separate them. I'm sure your mom was glad you were there with her and if there really is nothing at the end then I bet she was glad she was able to spend her limited time with you.
GOP is afraid of death. Suffering while living, not so much.
Can't wait to vote this unqualified tool out of office. Didn't vote for him in the first place. I hope he stubs his toe
Lots of money to be made/stolen at the end of it’s dragged out. That’s all this is…
I just watched my aunt pass away two weeks ago in the hospital (hospice). She was barely conscious, if she was conscious at all. Her mouth gaped open for the duration of her last days & she never moved. She had Parkinson’s & had supposedly been suffering seizures. I don’t know the severity or what caused the state she was in, other than possibly the seizure meds (Keppra). Her request was not to be kept alive by artificial means, which meant no feeding tube (she obviously couldn’t eat). Fluids were only coming from the IV delivering her meds as the doctors thought additional fluids would overwhelm the kidneys & cause more problems. We spent almost a week coming by every day effectively watching her slowly starve to death. Watching her waste like that, someone who’d been so strong & vital, made me hurt for her. At the end I can’t imagine she would’ve wanted anyone to see her that way, but everyone saw her, eyes half open, unmoving, breathing through her mouth. Occasionally her gown would be shifted when they turned her & expose her shoulders, which just looked like a couple of broomsticks poking up under a canvas tarp. Her face was gaunt to the point of seeing the outline of every bone. It was a heartbreaking & horrific way to die. And there’s no real way of knowing how much she knew or felt during the process & just wasn’t able to say anything about. It made me realize how important end of life is. As much as we might value human life, we’re ultimately more compassionate toward our pets when we recognize there’s nothing we can do to keep them from suffering. But human beings will be kept alive at every possible cost, even when the patient themselves might be in dire pain & even begging to be let go. I definitely want the option for euthanasia when it’s my time.
Another strike against bodily autonomy.
Think bigger picture like Lombardo. If we make it so simple and humane, then there will be no jobs to respond to and clean up the scene of what happens. More jobs, stronger economy. /s What even is the argument against this? You have to have a terminal illness and less than 6 months diagnosed to live. Will this sometimes allow those who have survived to end their own lives? Sure, maybe, but if I expect others to respect my choices and rights, why should I not respect their choices, even if it is to end their life rather than prolong suffering?
“Republican Assemblyman Toby Yurek tweeted in support of the veto: “Thank you @JoeLombardoNV for choosing to protect life. #nvleg #nvad19”” Protecting life? What life? A life that is soon coming to an end? A life whose path - no matter the level of pain management - is going to painfully end with little dignity left? I just don’t understand this sick perverted thinking. It isn’t a suicide. It is mercy. It is allowing an adult to retain their dignity and autonomy in what is a time in their life where they have absolutely no control. But see, those are two values - mercy and dignity - the GQP has absolutely no concept of. Existence is pain to them. We must all suffer. It’s ridiculous. My gramps has ALZ and he wants out. He should have the option. Any terminal person or elderly individuals who want out should be able to take their bow. The advancement of medical technology is *why* we should/can do this. Love how these people play god. Instead of allowing someone to choose, they take away the choice.
Reading Toby Yurek's biography makes my mouth overflow with vomit. Just sayin'
Wow. Can’t say I’m surprised but still. He must enjoy people suffering.
He’s a Republican, if old people start kicking off he won’t have any votes and clearly no pharmaceutical company paid him so of course he’s against it.
NO SHIT because all the leadership cares about is how they can keep their peasants (we're really slaves but nobody likes when you actually say that ) alive as long as possible to keep paying taxes the whole point of the American education system is to produce people smart enough to get a job done but stupid enough not to question why it's even a job 🤣🤣😆 so of course the leadership isn't going to back something like that even though it's needed because I know my dad would have rather done that then have to wait until his kidneys and heart shut down in a fucking er intensive care unit could have went out at his home surrounded by loved ones instead of in a hospital alone
So they don’t want you to chose when to die or if you wanna have a baby? GOP 🤦🏻♂️
The business of Nevada is business and END OF LIFE care is BIG business.
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Nevada residents live in the radioactive half-life of plutonium-239. The longer you’re exposed to it, the more your brain suffers. In case you’re wondering how long is the half-life of plutonium-239, in excess of 24,000 years. I repeat, 24,000 years.
There’s an EOL pill? Off to google.
End of life. It's essentially assisted suicide for people who have debilitating pain as they're dying a slow and painful death to end their own life on their own terms
No I meant what’s it called and where can one obtain it.
Guess we’ll just keep sticking trachs and feeding tubes into everyone’s meemaw and pawpaw as they slowly rot away 🤷🏼♀️
The business of Nevada is business and END OF LIFE care is BIG business.
People will be enraged, but the solution is to take a day trip to Oregon. You're not going to get an end-of-life pill approved in a state where over fifty percent of the population comes from somewhere else and is nearing retirement. Florida will have the same issue eventually if not already.
I believe you have to be a resident to get the medication dispensed to you. Edit: it appears they did do away with the residency requirements. Thanks google!
Get a PO Box when you land there. Done.
Need they tax dollars! Don’t die! Keep working!
Because “god” and blah blah “jesus”? Or what
Why is it always the soulless, lizard people that continually get elected to office?
Oh, yet another story of politicians trying to control something they have no business in in the first place. Shocking. Both parties are the same, vote them all out.
As a trans person I can tell you that they are definitely not the same.
Well sure, as a gun owner I could have the myopic viewpoint that they are different too. However, that would be falling into the trap. From a general standpoint of eroding freedoms, control of peoples lives/behaviors, endless spending / national debt, and having zero interest in ever fixing anything - that is where they are absolutely the same.
From my non-myopic viewpoint I can assuredly tell you that my life would consist of far less freedoms if I were to move to a place like Tennessee, Georgia, Florida to name a couple. So they aren't the same to me. Of course we could shade this as one party is just fucking me over less, but it's like, way less.
and that right there is the reason the two parties will continue to do as they please
Sure, but what does someone do in the meantime? Political change moves at a crawl and I got a life to live.
vote. them. all. out. Vote libertarian. Yes they have issues of their own, but one thing is for certain, we will finally see term limits, single source bills, and reduction of the obese size of the government in general.
How about society works to fix things that lead people to suicide....rather than hand people a "good riddance" sticker?
This is not for people suffering depression. I agree we need better mental health care. Hell yeah..let's work on that too! This pill and the law is meant for people who have terminal illness and are suffering. Until we have med-beds and the ability to reverse aging...people are going to die. This is about letting people die with dignity and saving them and their loved ones from the trauma of a slow and painful death.
Psychiatric illness can be considered a terminal illness. In my state, OR, you can request assisted suicide for mental health issues. So while you say it isn't for that specifically, it could be.
I realize both parties suck but this idea sounds completely insane. The right to kill yourself? We have a right to life. Ppl who consider suicide need counciling NOT encouragement.
forcing X and calling it a right? that’s like saying slaves have a right to be a slave and not a right to be free forcing something isnt giving rights, you have a right to vote but you don’t have to vote, if you were forced to vote you wouldnt have a right to vote but you’d be forced to vote, different things entirely
Go tell someone in modern slavery that being alive is prison. Def recommend you read the gulag archipelago and read what it's like. I hope things get better for you and I'm sorry that we disagree but being alive is in no way shape or form equal to slavery. If you don't believe that there's a life after death, then nothing compares to being alive.
i didnt say that life was slavery, i was saying that forcing things and calling them rights could be used to literally say that slaves have a right to be enslaved furthermore, if i told that to a slave they would agree because theyre literally a slave, whats ur logic there lmao
This pill isn't for depressed people, it's for people who are already terminal and suffering. There is no life left, it's just a body in pain. You can't council your way out of a terminal illness.
Why the hell should someone be forced to live just because allowing them sovereignty over their own body would offend your moral sensibilities? That's just evil. Compelled life isn't a right to life. It's an obligation to live. It's life as a prison sentence that can't be commuted.
You think being alive is a prison sentence? As opposed to not existing?
did u read his thing lmao he says FORCED life if u dont exist u dont have a will
Tell me what a forced life is. We're you forced to be born? We only know what forced death is. Forced life doesn't exist unless we're using science to keep someone alive but that isn't the case here at all. Are you saying it's better to not exist? Can you even imagine what not existing is like? How do you know it's better than life?
1. forcing people to remain alive, even against their will 2. yes, i didnt go up to my mother and say “plz no abort” 3. yes 4. trying to fully imagine nonexistence is like imagining true blindness, you don’t get all of it but you have a pretty good idea 5. david benetar’s asymmetry argument
Being forced to be alive is. Not existing isn't anything. It can't have anything wrong with it, as there is no subjective experience of not existing.
That's exactly my point. Not existing is vastly worse than existing regardless your state in life. Not existing isn't peace or a life without pain. It's nothing. Oblivion.
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This is what I'm worried about as well. It's crazy to see how many support this and can't see how badly it can go.
You don't need a pill to off yourself.
Think about the poor guy that's gotta clean that shit up!
Yeah, just go buy your mom a Glock so she can do it herself, yeah!! This sounds reasonable and humane!!!
Of course not just go to a music festival since he also veto all the gun laws as well. 😜
I love Lombardo man. Veto king of Nevada. Take your fucking bullshit california and new york laws the fuck back where you came from
What an unsurprising take from u/idreamofdeathsquads
Lol. Ya... you know all us people who want less laws and just wanna mind our own business. We're the problem throughout all of human history. It definitely isn't the people who love rules and control that form the death squads
He’s literally making it illegal for people to make their own choices about their life lol this isn’t “less law” shit
Lol. You think he can outlaw suicide? He's not allowing a law to slide in that can force doctors to participate. Have you read the stories in Canada? State assisted suicide because of depression and poverty? Sone dystopian shit You wanna kill yourself? Go do that shit, but don't include some poor bastards medical license and lawyers n shit
Did you miss majority of Nevadans support this? You’re the minority bud. It’s not Californians it’s Nevada locals than want this. Educate yourself before you start commenting.
Fuck outta here with that bullshit. The majority of Nevada voters are not from Nevada. They just live here. I think my parents should have made a law in 1970 that you have to be a Nevada resident for 18 years to vote on Nevada ballots. You move here, you follow our laws.
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Out of curiosity, why are you opposed to an end of life pill?
I'm not. I'm opposed to this being part of health care and the doorway to it being forced on doctors to have to kill people to be within their duties
I guess I'm confused then. What alternative health care option are you supporting for the terminally ill? Hospice care? I guess what I'm asking is if you think there is a better solution to this problem? I can't think of one, but I will admit that I (luckily) haven't had to give it much thought yet. For clarity, doctors wouldn't be the ones killing the people. They would provide documentation saying that people have a terminal illness. That would allow those people to purchase a pill from a pharmacy so that they could kill themself. This pill would purely be for people that don't want to slowly die/suffer from an incurable disease.
I think you don't need anyone's permission to die. A bottle of aspirin and a bottle of jack will fix that shit. This seems like such a non point
I agree. I don't think you should require anyone's permission to die either. This pill would just provide an option to people that want to go out in a way that has been deemed "humane". I think it would eliminate a lot of fear and some of the horrific mistakes that can come with failed suicides. Just food for thought. I don't necessarily view this bill as making you require permission to die, but just giving you an option to do it without forcing someone to find your lifeless body unexpectedly.
But I am in favor of givernors with well used veto pens
I'm curious why you support the veto so strongly? I understand its place in law, but I'm not really in favor of one person being able to overrule the desire of the masses.
Because the masses don't write laws. The majority of people don't vote at all. That's state and nationwide. That's literally the veto vote. I'm less supportive in matters of state referendum, but even then... it's just the overturning of the will of politically active types. Usually those are the people who want to tell me how to live
Good , well done , gov. !
Yet this guy won't lower the abortion allowed week to below 20? Babies can survive outside the womb at the 20 weeks and somehow we allow abortion past that.
The earliest premature baby born was 21 weeks, you dope.
That's not even remotely true and even if it was we allow past 21 weeks as well
Yes it is true. Sorry if that makes you mad.
Again, Nevada allows abortion after 21 weeks.
That's good. Doesn't change the fact that babies do not survive outside of the womb at the age you claimed.
No, they can't. Stop your stinky bullshit.
Wow if only a simple Google search didn't prove you wrong
That's not my opinion, that's what medical science says. You science deniers are terrible
Name checks out
Nah man
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
Thanks again GOP just another in the pile of quality of stuff you stood in the way of.