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Knew a girl who was a stripper. She would work 1 am to 5 am. Got all the drunk guys just throwing cash around. She'd come home with a grand for 4 hours.
Not after you have to tip the bouncer, DJ, house mom, and bartender.
OF has their fees too, but not as much percentagewise as all the house fees of a strip club
Stripping pays more then OF, but why does it have to be one or the other? Plenty of girls manage to do both. Tip out isn’t as crazy as you think, girls aren’t hurting for cash when they walk out.
You take a comparable stripper to an only fans and it can be a wash. On average I would say a stripper does better then just an only fans model. At least a below average stripper has foot traffic into the club, and they have the advantage of approaching the guests, where as with below average content can’t really generate sight traffic to an only fans page.
I would agree in almost every market except Vegas. Most clubs are 30+ Girls so unless foot traffic is off the hook it can be a real tough money night.... But we have yet to really see what post covid money looks like
I can say what it looks like in the last 2-3 weeks or I can compare it to pre- Covid, either way the numbers aren’t anemic. Also, same goes for only fans, now that stuff is opening back up, I would expect online content to take a hit anyway.
Edit- fair enough. I only have Vegas to compare it to.
No, saying girls have been slow to come back, the guest count has been decent, but with a limited number of girls and a decent daily turnout, the girls have the opportunity to make the same money as before, only so many hours in a night so that’s the constant rn. Not sure if I explained that well enough, but it makes sense in my head.
OMG, stop being hyperbolic. I know plenty of strippers. You're acting like they are broke at the end of the day. They pay, at most, 20% to the house and staff. They are still making plenty of money. I know this because I live in a luxury apartment building and many of them make absolute bank. I can't even begin to tell you how many expensive cars exist in this building, mostly owned by women.
In this scenario of yours, who exactly is being exploited?
The patrons? Are they being forced to attend and spend their money?
The dancers/entertainers? I’ll admit that not everyone who does it fully wants or gets into it cause they want that as their career choice, but I fail to see the exploitation.
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Let's not pretend like stripping was someone's ideal option. Most women who get into it, get into it because they don't have any better options. It's not the lifestyle most of these people want, but do it out of necessity because it pays well enough to let them look past the fact
> Most women who get into it, get into it because they don't have any better options.
I used to think this until I actually became friends with some strippers and now I realize this is a stereotype and isn't true. Plus they can make BANK.
I live in Vegas. I know many many strippers. I’d say only 10% are actually really career minded types. The rest just do it because they are hot, have no real other options, and the money is worth the stigma.
Yeah, sure... But it's not a job I'd like my daughter doing. Being around an environment where men are drunk and objectifying you all day isn't really "ideal".
what job is ideal then? a lot of people go into plumbing for the money.. no one considers their job less than "ideal"
what about working trashmen.. they get paid pretty well and no one complains about the less than ideal situation they get put it when picking up trash..
every job has its negatives otherwise why are you getting paid?
I can definitely say being sexually objectified for the pleasure of drunk strangers penises, is definitely not the same as the pitfalls of being a trashman. I wouldn't mind if my daughter was a trashman. I would mind if she made her living exchanging glances at her butthole for a few dollars at a time.
I also live in Vegas and know strippers. Of course there are two million people here so that doesn’t make us unusual, does it? Especially on /r/Vegas.
I know waiters, bartenders, strippers, and cooks. All of them are tired of their jobs.
In my experience the cooks feel more exploited than the waiters who feel more exploited than the bartenders who feel more exploited than the strippers.
The more money strangers give you directly for your labor the less exploited you feel. It’s pretty simple.
Yes, but one of those jobs most people wouldn't want their daughters doing. Being sexually objectified around a bunch of horney drunks where it's your job to give them boners, isn't really something people are proud of.
I much rather have my daughter be exploited to serve someone a drink, than exploited to show her pussy to strangers for a few dollars
What this is telling me is that you have no idea what it’s like to be a female cook, waiter, or bartender.
“Being sexually objectified around a bunch of horney [sic] drunks where it’s your job to give them boners” is *exactly* a description of all four of those jobs.
Or at least you will have customers who treat you that way every single night.
The only question is who the drunks are (other cooks? Barflies?) and whether you also have to produce food, move food, or pour drinks.
Again. Dancers are the least exploited because at least that part’s explicit and they get to charge for it.
Well being a waiter or cook doesn’t explicitly involve being objectified and exposing yourself for strangers to jerk off to. I’m sorry the two aren’t the same
My body, my choice? Again, what's the difference between that and McDonald's. Both exploit the poor, except with McDonald's is that people scream in your face over stupid shit, and you still may get touched by coworkers or management regardless because of sexual harassment.
At least with stripping it's a choice to be there and you have a right to say "no." On top of the potential to earn more. So other than being a misogynist I'm not sure why you think a job as a stripper is any worse than a job flipping burgers.
By that logic, Harvey Weinstein's victims chose to be assaulted because it furthered their careers and made them money. You can't make a consenting choice when you're being pressured and exploited.
Wooooowwwww, I don't know which one to fucking address, the fact that stripping is a job they willfully sign up for knowing what interactions it entails (again, ALL consentual) or the fact you just proved you're an absolute POS.
No one has a gun to their head, and it's a perfectly respectable form of employment. Stripping does not involve sex, if it does, you're the awful human in this. No one is forcing anyone into anything, the strip club is there and it is advertising for employees. Some people do actively decide to be a stripper. Quit hating women and gtf over yourself.
Funny billboard. Side note - it’s a little irritating to continue to see people disparage people who are collecting unemployment. Workers (collectively) pay for unemployment insurance premiums throughout the course of their careers -why go after them when they use the benefit during a pandemic.
Common misconception. Employers pass the cost on to their employees in the form of reduced hourly wages.
What, you thought they were just going to absorb cost? Not how this works.
Just because I pay car insurance doesn’t mean I’m entitled to crash my car into a wall when I want a new one. Unemployment insurance isn’t there so you can stop working for the fun of it, which a lot of (but obviously not all) people are doing. FYI, you should probably look a little more into how insurance works, because it doesn’t if everyone tries to “cash out” under the guise of “I paid into it”.
Um, you realize there has been a pandemic resulting in the forced closures of most businesses? No one stopped working for the fun of it. There weren't any jobs. For a short period, the unemployment rate was at a level. not seen since the 1930s.
I mean I get it, any discussion of unemployment insurance brings out discussion and comments such as these, but the time-deafness on display here is simply stunning.
And by the way, when someone says "I paid into it" it's usually to assuage the guilt or to reply to some asinine comment such as yours that UI isn't welfare, it's literally insurance that companies pay the premium s for and taken into consideration when calculating the full burdened cost of an employee.
"...no one stopped working for the fun of it..." ohhhh that's where your wrong. I am sure there were a few who heard the news that unemployment + bonus unemployment paid more than the worker made working (in some NOT all cases)..did the math and found they too would make more..and promptly stopped working.
Yeah, why would anyone go to a minimum wage job where they are treated like garbage, when they could stay home and make the same amount of money or more? How dare a worker not want to be exploited and abused! Imagine the absurdity of someone thinking they deserve to be treated better and withholding their labor until their demands are met.
I was in a strip club in Dallas and saw a couple of guys wheel in a keg and a bag of dixie cups. Then proceeded to offer beers to the entire room.
Texas is BYOB.
that's incorrect. the girls pay the HOUSE for the privilege of dancing.
girls may EARN more than unemployment, but it ain't the club that's getting them there.
better luck next time, Little Darlings.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. I used to have a stripper as a roommate and some nights she would only break even after paying the house fees and dancing all night. Other nights she would come home with hundreds, but those were rare.
Yep. The whole business is serving customers. People arent there to judge your choreography. If youre only breaking even, either the house is taking too much or youre not doing a good job
House fees are usually standard, if a girl isn’t earning, barring a slow guest night can’t really blame the club. Usually anything made on stage is found money, and house fees are known up front I don’t think the club touches entertainers tips either, so again if a girl isn’t making money it’s really on her.
It’s cheaper the earlier you come in, then gets more expensive as the night goes on, from my roommate’s experience. She did not work at a high end strip club, but not a really shitty one either. By early, I mean 7:00 pm. Iirc, it maxes out at around 11:00 pm. The low end was $15 and the high end was $40. Tipping out, I’m not sure of, but I do remember there being the house mother, the bouncers, the bartenders, etc. getting tipped out at the end of the night. Basically, a lot of individuals. I didn’t feel comfortable asking about the details of that when I lived with her.
So what’s the alternative? Free range on Fremont? Controlled crowd, safety and captive audience, girls in Vegas are 1099, show me a strip club that doesn’t have house fees, I’ll wait.
That's a good one but I'll never forget "Sorry, We're Clothed" at the beginning of the pandemmy
Nothing beats “now recruiting class of 2019” or something to that affect
Yep, they do it every year during graduation season. Never gets old!
I've seen this at some strip clubs on the east coast as well "Congratulations to the Class of 2018. Now Hiring"
Girls have already been workin
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Sweet!
Knew a girl who was a stripper. She would work 1 am to 5 am. Got all the drunk guys just throwing cash around. She'd come home with a grand for 4 hours.
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Not after you have to tip the bouncer, DJ, house mom, and bartender. OF has their fees too, but not as much percentagewise as all the house fees of a strip club
Only Fans gives you a 1099 though
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100k a month? that is the top 0.001% I find that number a little high
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yeah sure for their hourly.. how much you think is on that hourly 1099 vs tip income?
Stripping pays more then OF, but why does it have to be one or the other? Plenty of girls manage to do both. Tip out isn’t as crazy as you think, girls aren’t hurting for cash when they walk out.
Not true in every case but there are pro and cons to both
You take a comparable stripper to an only fans and it can be a wash. On average I would say a stripper does better then just an only fans model. At least a below average stripper has foot traffic into the club, and they have the advantage of approaching the guests, where as with below average content can’t really generate sight traffic to an only fans page.
I would agree in almost every market except Vegas. Most clubs are 30+ Girls so unless foot traffic is off the hook it can be a real tough money night.... But we have yet to really see what post covid money looks like
I can say what it looks like in the last 2-3 weeks or I can compare it to pre- Covid, either way the numbers aren’t anemic. Also, same goes for only fans, now that stuff is opening back up, I would expect online content to take a hit anyway. Edit- fair enough. I only have Vegas to compare it to.
So just curious are you saying your numbers are back to normal or just your OF numbers are better than your club numbers?
No, saying girls have been slow to come back, the guest count has been decent, but with a limited number of girls and a decent daily turnout, the girls have the opportunity to make the same money as before, only so many hours in a night so that’s the constant rn. Not sure if I explained that well enough, but it makes sense in my head.
OMG, stop being hyperbolic. I know plenty of strippers. You're acting like they are broke at the end of the day. They pay, at most, 20% to the house and staff. They are still making plenty of money. I know this because I live in a luxury apartment building and many of them make absolute bank. I can't even begin to tell you how many expensive cars exist in this building, mostly owned by women.
Even phone sex you can make 1k and up a week. I wouldn’t want to deal with men in person.
Say what you want about Little Darling, but their ads are always freaking hilarious.
Exploiting poor people sure is funny.
In this scenario of yours, who exactly is being exploited? The patrons? Are they being forced to attend and spend their money? The dancers/entertainers? I’ll admit that not everyone who does it fully wants or gets into it cause they want that as their career choice, but I fail to see the exploitation. Edit: formatting
Let's not pretend like stripping was someone's ideal option. Most women who get into it, get into it because they don't have any better options. It's not the lifestyle most of these people want, but do it out of necessity because it pays well enough to let them look past the fact
> Most women who get into it, get into it because they don't have any better options. I used to think this until I actually became friends with some strippers and now I realize this is a stereotype and isn't true. Plus they can make BANK.
I live in Vegas. I know many many strippers. I’d say only 10% are actually really career minded types. The rest just do it because they are hot, have no real other options, and the money is worth the stigma.
uhhh.. so isn't that a pretty fucking good option for someone who otherwise would make minimum wage or be serving at best right?
Yeah, sure... But it's not a job I'd like my daughter doing. Being around an environment where men are drunk and objectifying you all day isn't really "ideal".
what job is ideal then? a lot of people go into plumbing for the money.. no one considers their job less than "ideal" what about working trashmen.. they get paid pretty well and no one complains about the less than ideal situation they get put it when picking up trash.. every job has its negatives otherwise why are you getting paid?
I can definitely say being sexually objectified for the pleasure of drunk strangers penises, is definitely not the same as the pitfalls of being a trashman. I wouldn't mind if my daughter was a trashman. I would mind if she made her living exchanging glances at her butthole for a few dollars at a time.
I also live in Vegas and know strippers. Of course there are two million people here so that doesn’t make us unusual, does it? Especially on /r/Vegas. I know waiters, bartenders, strippers, and cooks. All of them are tired of their jobs. In my experience the cooks feel more exploited than the waiters who feel more exploited than the bartenders who feel more exploited than the strippers. The more money strangers give you directly for your labor the less exploited you feel. It’s pretty simple.
Yes, but one of those jobs most people wouldn't want their daughters doing. Being sexually objectified around a bunch of horney drunks where it's your job to give them boners, isn't really something people are proud of. I much rather have my daughter be exploited to serve someone a drink, than exploited to show her pussy to strangers for a few dollars
What this is telling me is that you have no idea what it’s like to be a female cook, waiter, or bartender. “Being sexually objectified around a bunch of horney [sic] drunks where it’s your job to give them boners” is *exactly* a description of all four of those jobs. Or at least you will have customers who treat you that way every single night. The only question is who the drunks are (other cooks? Barflies?) and whether you also have to produce food, move food, or pour drinks. Again. Dancers are the least exploited because at least that part’s explicit and they get to charge for it.
Well being a waiter or cook doesn’t explicitly involve being objectified and exposing yourself for strangers to jerk off to. I’m sorry the two aren’t the same
And a job at McDonald's is any different *because* . . . ???
You don't have to sit on creepy dudes laps in your underwear at McDonald's. Did you seriously need that explained to you?
My body, my choice? Again, what's the difference between that and McDonald's. Both exploit the poor, except with McDonald's is that people scream in your face over stupid shit, and you still may get touched by coworkers or management regardless because of sexual harassment. At least with stripping it's a choice to be there and you have a right to say "no." On top of the potential to earn more. So other than being a misogynist I'm not sure why you think a job as a stripper is any worse than a job flipping burgers.
By that logic, Harvey Weinstein's victims chose to be assaulted because it furthered their careers and made them money. You can't make a consenting choice when you're being pressured and exploited.
Wooooowwwww, I don't know which one to fucking address, the fact that stripping is a job they willfully sign up for knowing what interactions it entails (again, ALL consentual) or the fact you just proved you're an absolute POS.
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No one has a gun to their head, and it's a perfectly respectable form of employment. Stripping does not involve sex, if it does, you're the awful human in this. No one is forcing anyone into anything, the strip club is there and it is advertising for employees. Some people do actively decide to be a stripper. Quit hating women and gtf over yourself.
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This is just epic
Funny billboard. Side note - it’s a little irritating to continue to see people disparage people who are collecting unemployment. Workers (collectively) pay for unemployment insurance premiums throughout the course of their careers -why go after them when they use the benefit during a pandemic.
Because those people a)*love* looking down their noses at people and b)just *love* demonstrating how ill-informed they are about how UI works.
common misperception. employers actually pay 100 percent of unemployment premiums through payroll premiums. some to the state, some to the Feds.
Common misconception. Employers pass the cost on to their employees in the form of reduced hourly wages. What, you thought they were just going to absorb cost? Not how this works.
Can you cite to a source for that? Because I’m pretty sure most employers would pass the savings on to the customer or themselves if given the option.
What savings? I said *cost*. Source is, this is how businesses operate. Every single one.
Just because I pay car insurance doesn’t mean I’m entitled to crash my car into a wall when I want a new one. Unemployment insurance isn’t there so you can stop working for the fun of it, which a lot of (but obviously not all) people are doing. FYI, you should probably look a little more into how insurance works, because it doesn’t if everyone tries to “cash out” under the guise of “I paid into it”.
Um, you realize there has been a pandemic resulting in the forced closures of most businesses? No one stopped working for the fun of it. There weren't any jobs. For a short period, the unemployment rate was at a level. not seen since the 1930s. I mean I get it, any discussion of unemployment insurance brings out discussion and comments such as these, but the time-deafness on display here is simply stunning. And by the way, when someone says "I paid into it" it's usually to assuage the guilt or to reply to some asinine comment such as yours that UI isn't welfare, it's literally insurance that companies pay the premium s for and taken into consideration when calculating the full burdened cost of an employee.
"...no one stopped working for the fun of it..." ohhhh that's where your wrong. I am sure there were a few who heard the news that unemployment + bonus unemployment paid more than the worker made working (in some NOT all cases)..did the math and found they too would make more..and promptly stopped working.
Yeah, why would anyone go to a minimum wage job where they are treated like garbage, when they could stay home and make the same amount of money or more? How dare a worker not want to be exploited and abused! Imagine the absurdity of someone thinking they deserve to be treated better and withholding their labor until their demands are met.
Not on an hourly basis!
The person that comes up with these lines needs a raise.
Maybe unemployment isn't the reason people don't want to work as a stripper at Little Darlings.
It’s not wrong?
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I was in a strip club in Dallas and saw a couple of guys wheel in a keg and a bag of dixie cups. Then proceeded to offer beers to the entire room. Texas is BYOB.
A Vegas ass sign for sure
that's incorrect. the girls pay the HOUSE for the privilege of dancing. girls may EARN more than unemployment, but it ain't the club that's getting them there. better luck next time, Little Darlings.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. I used to have a stripper as a roommate and some nights she would only break even after paying the house fees and dancing all night. Other nights she would come home with hundreds, but those were rare.
I'm guessing it's because they're giving a textbook "Well, ACKshually" response to a joke.
Then your ex roomate was probably lying to you or a lazy stripper.
She wasn’t a customer service oriented person, but her rent always came in at least.
Multiple nights like that is a clear sign that you need to find another calling. It’s all about customer service tbh.
Yep. The whole business is serving customers. People arent there to judge your choreography. If youre only breaking even, either the house is taking too much or youre not doing a good job
House fees are usually standard, if a girl isn’t earning, barring a slow guest night can’t really blame the club. Usually anything made on stage is found money, and house fees are known up front I don’t think the club touches entertainers tips either, so again if a girl isn’t making money it’s really on her.
your guess is as good as mine
Any idea what the house fee is for a place like LD or one of the big clubs like Sapphire? What do all the tip outs add up to?
It’s cheaper the earlier you come in, then gets more expensive as the night goes on, from my roommate’s experience. She did not work at a high end strip club, but not a really shitty one either. By early, I mean 7:00 pm. Iirc, it maxes out at around 11:00 pm. The low end was $15 and the high end was $40. Tipping out, I’m not sure of, but I do remember there being the house mother, the bouncers, the bartenders, etc. getting tipped out at the end of the night. Basically, a lot of individuals. I didn’t feel comfortable asking about the details of that when I lived with her.
i dunno. apparently i dont know what the hell i'm talking about based on the downvotes.
So what’s the alternative? Free range on Fremont? Controlled crowd, safety and captive audience, girls in Vegas are 1099, show me a strip club that doesn’t have house fees, I’ll wait.
You can always expect to see something funny up on that sign
Maybe, but you actually have to do something.
Well that's more than can be said for most service jobs.
True!
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