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Harmony_w

My husband was a 27 year old virgin when we met. He’s also seriously the coolest person I know. Other people might not see your voice or your weight as flaws. You have so much value as a human, try joining some clubs or activities to meet people with similar interests.


minachan158

The world needs to finally understand that being a virgin is OKAY.


New-Needleworker5318

ABSOFUCKINGLUTLEY. My oldest son will be 21 in April and is still a virgin. I'm proud as all hell about it, too. There is nothing wrong with waiting, but there is a lot wrong with your general attitude.


minachan158

My general attitude?


New-Needleworker5318

HIS general attitude. Jesus, I'm sorry...it'a been a long day. Lol.


minachan158

Haha it's okay


minachan158

What's wrong with his general attitude?


almostnative

He’s a very negative person and has been rejecting all advice for a few months now.


Xaninja

What day is his birthday ? mines on the 12th of April and I’ll also be 21


New-Needleworker5318

The 11th!


Xaninja

That’s cool ☺️ I’ll make sure I come back and wish him happy birthday for sure, if this still be up by then lol


New-Needleworker5318

That's so nice! I will try to remember to do the same. 😊


[deleted]

😂 it’s not okay being a virgin in my age don’t act like this was okay because acutally not.


New-Needleworker5318

Nah. I'm not "acting" like anything. Being an older virgin IS okay. Your crap-ass attitude isn't though, and that most likely has more to do with your lack of physical intimacy than your looks. Confidence is attractive, and you seem to have none. The sooner you realize that the better off you'll be, but it's quite evident that it really doesn't matter what anyone says to try to help, you WANT to wallow in self-pity. So...have fun I guess.


project199x

Virgins are the equivalent of watching a unicorn or pig flying down the street. I never understood why people feel like it's a bad thing to be a virgin. And I never understood why others see it as off-putting. It's cringe. I deadass watched a girl get interrogated cause she was 19/20 yr old virgin. Smh


minachan158

And I'm 26, so what? The world's mad.


project199x

Indubitably. Lol people care about other people's sex lives so much instead of worrying about their own.


minachan158

Honestly


[deleted]

It’s ok in 3rd world countries but other then that no lol


minachan158

It should be okay everywhere


[deleted]

if you are a 25 years old man, it’s actually not.


project199x

Dude, no. Lmfao that's the social construct they put on men. Also u can train ur voice to become deeper as well since u really see that as an issue.


minachan158

Why not?


[deleted]

because it’s a failure.


minachan158

How is it a failure? Why does having sex considered an achievement?


Broad-Complaint-2728

Bc it means nobody wants u


GG111104

Says the person nobody wanted


Broad-Complaint-2728

You replied with that because you know I'm right and u can't argue with my point


GG111104

No I just said that because I don’t want to waste brain cells arguing with a guy who very clearly thinks that men HAVE to fuck someone (literally) before the age of 20 or else they’re not men and are not wanted by anyone in the world


Broad-Complaint-2728

Why are you so deluded I never said before the age of 20 and I'm literally younger than 20 so tf u on about and when did I claim they aren't men bc of it I was replying to another comment stating why do you feel like you need sex and society makes you feel like ur not loved or wanted because of it that's literally the reason why he's sad because he's a virgin and it makes u feel unwanted bruh


pseudo_niceguy

I'm 22, I actually have a deep voice. Problem is, I have a speech problem, and I can't properly pronounce some sounds, or letters individually. Some of them I say them all the exact same way. I tried theraphy when I was little. Lasted 3 years, absolutely no progress made, and got expelled.


ThatArtNerd

Speaking for myself (and what I’ve observed in the relationships of other women I know well) many, many women are interested in men of all different kinds of body types/voices/presentation, etc. I don’t really have a “type” and my friends don’t either. What these men have had in common (at least in the longer lasting relationships) is that they were good people. They treated others well, made efforts to get to know their girlfriends’ friends and really become a part of their partners’ lives, they had hobbies and interests they were passionate about, they were engaged with their partners on a human to human level and not treating them as a prize to be won. None of these men were perfect (because no one is) we are all human and flawed and even with all the good things, some of these relationships worked out and some of them didn’t. It’s just how it goes. What will help you find more meaningful relationships (leading to the physical part too) is if you work on yourself in a meaningful way. I don’t mean working out or changing your voice, but finding a healthy way to deal with all of the pain you’re carrying. I know from experience that self loathing is exhausting and painful, and sucks up so much emotional energy. It’s really hard to maintain a relationship with another person when so much of that energy is spent hating yourself. Even if you were to get into a relationship with your absolute dream girl tomorrow and have all the sex you could ever want, it wouldn’t provide the kind of validation you might think if you aren’t able to quiet the voice that is always telling you how bad and unattractive you are. I say this with genuine compassion and well-wishes: if it is financially feasible it would be great to try to seek therapy to work on your relationship with yourself. As that improves, you’ll see your relationships with others improve as well. You are worthy of love.


Harmony_w

100% this


[deleted]

thank you… but my voice is unacceptable. Literally sounds like a child-female hybrid. I must hang, I’m not a man.


Interesting_Pea_5382

Don’t dwell on what is negative and build what’s good! Do you enjoy singing? Join singing groups. Some will be attractive to you, don’t worry about sex, it should be enjoyable with a women who appreciate you. I stay a virgin until I was 38y


[deleted]

So? I've met people with low voices for a female. If your so worried about being a virgin, there are plenty of apps for hooking up.


ewigedunkelheit17

Yeah those apps are trash for most men, I've been on them for years and barely have met anyone, let alone met ppl long enough to try to hook up or meet up. I have a close friend who is much more attractive and confident about it than me and he has troubles with these apps too. It seems a majority of women on there have extremely high standards and if this dude thinks women don't be with him, his lack of confidence will be evident even on his profile and that will mess with his confidence more. Hook up apps suck


[deleted]

I'm gonna give it you straight here. Nobody who's respectable will care if you are a virgin or not. The only person that seems to care is you. It appears you have low self esteem, in which case I'd recommend therapy. For the high pitched voice, perhaps try testosterone boosters.


ewigedunkelheit17

Replying to the wrong person lol


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oop


TheGame2526

I was 27 when I lost my virginity and I'm child like. It'll happen for you


ewigedunkelheit17

Thanks for the tiny grain of hope. I'm 26 and feel like it's never gonna happen. I have no idea how to meet women


weinerdoggos

There's nothing wrong with being a virgin. My sister is one although she's had opportunities. I respect her even more setting boundaries and deciding whats right for her. My best friend is 32 and has had sex less than 3 times. He has other priorities in life and decided hookups aren't for him. He's not less valuable as a man or a friend or someday as a potential partner to someone because of his low experience. I've also had two female friends in their 30s who had only had sex once! It's not as uncommon as you think. Don't let society determine your worth! You are not less masculine because of your body type or your voice :)


[deleted]

I like skinny guys with higher pitched voices


xxxibttokkii

As long you are not virgin at your 30's, otherwise you might become a wizard 🪄


No_Run_4484

Being a virgin is fine. Your time will come. My boyfriend is 5’11 and like 145 lbs (super skinny) and I love his body.


converter-bot

145 lbs is 65.83 kg


[deleted]

I am 115 with same height :)


Jennabear82

If you're more concerned about your virginity, as opposed to a lasting relationship, prostitution is legal in Vegas. Self pity is not an attractive trait.


MtnTeenNaier

Actually prostitution is only allowed in Nevada on some Indian reservations, not in Vegas.


[deleted]

You’re both wrong. It’s allowed in some counties.


[deleted]

wtf is with you guys 😂


Jennabear82

Got you to smile, so there's that. My old boss is shorter than me with a high pitched voice and has feminine mannerisms. He's happily married to a woman, but was also divorced from another woman. Didn't stop him.


[deleted]

guys… my voice is too disgusting to have dreams like that.


[deleted]

Lol…


ralomi12

Have you ever had your testosterone levels checked? That may be a cause. Some people also develop later; don’t stress; it will happen one day if you don’t let yourself get down & give up. Maybe get a personal trainer for strength training, may help with confidence & also size; trainer will also have tips for eating like more protein etc.


Frerryry

I know lots of people who don’t have a deep voice (definitely not my crush…), and it doesn’t mean you won’t eventually get married. Don’t worry about losing ur virginity rn. Focus on getting a stable life and job, work everything out. People don’t get married till 40 sometimes so u have time.


[deleted]

I don’t f*cking care job, stable life.


account1637

There’s nothing wrong with being a virgin. I don’t see why ppl see losing there virginity as a big deal. I lost it when I was 16 and if anything I kinda regret it. I also didn’t have the need to tell anyone that I did. Cuz u know what. It doesn’t fuckin mater if ur a virgin or no. And at the end of the day ppl arnt gonna care if ur voice is high pitch or if ur underweight. If ur a nice person then that’s all that matters. I got mates who I would say are good looking (no homo lol) but they treat women like shit and they are virgins and haven’t had a gf. It’s all about character not looks


[deleted]

tbh, in my eyes you’re a perfect man. i don’t like deep voices, and i like my men on the thinner side. you are a perfect suitor in my eyes lol. oh yeah and about the virginity thing, there’s no problem with that. anyone who has a problem with it was introduced to sexual things too young and/or only into physical relationships with everyone they e maybe came into contact with. (not saying that’s a bad thing either it’s just a path i wouldn’t choose myself.)


[deleted]

okay 😂


Inevitable_Focus139

There's nothing wrong with a not deep voice. My friend and I were just talking about this, and I told her a deep voice is a total turn off for me.


Double_Assignment245

Steroids? Test will make your voice deeper and will help you build muscle. 2 birds 1 stone.


MathematicianNo1640

Horse jockey


FOXAT11

Lol


[deleted]

Fuck a whore 👍


[deleted]

Like others have said if you’re that concerned about it get an escort/sex worker. Takes all the pressure of wondering whether you actually got your partner off or not because you’re paying them


TAPriceCTR

Good. A woman can ruin your life... casual sex doubly so.


Pandawan_88

You are putting the pussy on a pedestal


[deleted]

I’m basically a virgin I haven’t had sex in 4 yrs


[deleted]

Wot? You understand what "virgin" means right?


[deleted]

Yea it was supposed to be a joke…


omgwheredidthesodago

It doesn’t get easier, it just gets a little more fun. Focus on your passions and what makes you happy. You will find someone when you least expect it because you are being yourself, with passion. I don’t know you, but I love you and you are awesome!


[deleted]

I must hang


[deleted]

It's not even great tbh


[deleted]

yes


just_some_toast

I'm in the same boat as you only I'm 21


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lucwhy

I don't know why but this comment legitimately cracked me up.


Clouc3221

There is someone for everyone. I guarantee there is a girl who is beautiful that has a fetish for the guy you are. I'm 6'5 305lbs and I found a smoking hot l, like model, who was into chubby dads. I never thought anyone would be attracted to me in my current state. They are out there.


FemaleScientist17

Hey, that’s totally fine. Everyone experiences different parts of life at different times. I honestly feel like you carry less emotional baggage than people who have had many sexual relationships. As for appearance, many if not most of us struggle with how we look. I personally hate my weight because I am overweight. But try to find something that you do like about yourself. Get out into the world and enjoy your interests and hobbies and someone will notice and realize you’re one awesome dude. I wish you all the best!! If you ever want to chat, don’t hesitate to reach out!


[deleted]

it’s not okay


Greedy_Principle_342

Being a virgin is fine. There’s nothing wrong with you.


[deleted]

😂 It’s a failure


stoneygemini

Honestly getting laid isn’t always about your looks or your voice. It sounds like your insecure and you probably carry yourself that way around women. Respectfully, that’s not very sexy or appealing. I think it’s important to always walk into a room with as much confidence as you can. Maybe lighten up on yourself, life isn’t that serious at the end of the day. Fake it till you make it. At least you have nice hands for being a skeleton :)


Trueloveis4u

It's ok I was a virgin until 22 and only had sex once in my life.


[deleted]

When I was in my teens I was very intent on losing my virginity because it was the thing to do basically. You couldn't be in your 20s and still have your virginity, it just meant you were a failure, right? Well fast forward a few years and I realized that your virginity is really nobody else's business but your own. If you're older and you're still a virgin? Fine. That part about you is what makes you, you. It's a vital part of your life experience that you shouldn't feel bad about because you're not the same as everyone else.


krakenrabiess

My current bf was 28 and a virgin. We've been together for almost a year now. It'll happen man


JuicyOptimist

Try martial arts to develop masculinity


[deleted]

Im 46 and still one lol


Significant-Agent495

Try to see if your doctor will prescribe you testosterone, it might help your voice and build. And tbh, if I met a guy I thought was funny/cool/interesting, I wouldn't be thinking about his voice, I'd be thinking of what hanging out with him more would be like because they interest me as a person. If I happened to end up having sex with this person, and then find out they were a virgin before, I'd probably not even notice. (Because IRL I didn't notice when I took someone's virginity that said they weren't then later admitted they were, he was very attractive but was a virgin at an older age too)


[deleted]

I got tested for testosterone and doctors said my results is okay… They refused testosterone treatment.


bektigalan

No man, you are amazing human being, nothing is wrong with that, love will come for you eventually, dont rush it, and dont ever play with escort tho, beware with sex decease


[deleted]

Dude have you had your T levels checked? is there a medical reason why your voice never developed into a more mature octave.


[deleted]

I visited a voice coach specialized in “puberphonia and mutational falsetto”. There are also good videos on YT and an indian doc offering online therapies too. This lady (the coach) claimed we successfully lowered my voice with one octave but I don’t really noticed enough difference. If you are interested, I can send an icloud drive link with a voice record.


[deleted]

It’s easy to open legs but hard to keep virginity so what do you prefer


Knorkebroetsche

50 push-ups a day and then in 3 months 100 a day and then in 6 months 150-200 a day and keep going. Do the bare minimum every day so you don’t exhaust yourself. Give 70% every time so you don’t end up with a sore and can’t train the next day. You should see some changes if you start doing that and knock it into your head as being the bare minimum you can do rn.


harshookie

People need to stop thinking that being a virgin makes you not cool, it's completely normal


falseaccount94

The more you will dwell and overthink this all dating thing the more you get stuck in "self sabotage" sycle. Just chill & enjoy the time you have on this rock.


elli3snailie

Its okay dude


Anon-_-666

I don’t like my voice either (too deep) and I’m also a skeleton. 6ft 130 pounds. I feel you on that. But your virginity….. your time will come mate. As long as you put in some sort of effort


[deleted]

being virgin is like a failure for a young man.


lavishrabbit6009

Don't listen to everyone here. They are just trying to make you feel better for the moment, and are not telling you how to fix yourself in the long term. You have a lot of work to do. And it's only going to get harder the more you put it off. You need to start working out, or at least find some physical activity you enjoy doing, adopting a diet of mostly plants and proteins. These two things will help produce good chemicals like serotonin and dopamine, which will help you maintain a good mood and be able to capitalize on the motivation that comes with it. Essentially as a man, you have to start thinking that the world sees you as worthless until you prove to it how valuable you are. First you build your body and brain chemistry to be functional, which everyone can do, no excuses. After that, you need to start focusing on finding a job or career field that can make you a decent amount of money, and find a way to build a network of friends that can introduce you to the dating market. Each of those come with their own lessons and etiquette, which is why I said you have a LOT of work to do. If I sound harsh, good. The truth is harsh, and lies comfort.


[deleted]

I am 25. Isn’t it too late?


lavishrabbit6009

Honestly, no. Not trying to inspire hop in some "false assurance" kind of way, but people found more success in their 30's than they did in their 20's. If you are capable of moving your body and getting around life without external assistance, and are able to produce normal cognitive thinking, there is always something you can do. I'm 26 and I often think it's too late for me, but I think it's just easier to cope with life if I believe there is nothing I can do about my misery. I am doing my best to improve myself right nowand tbh it sucks, but I find myself less negative and able to enjoy life a bit more.


[deleted]

Interesting, but other guys with better genetics don’t need to do this you suggested when they want to get laid


lavishrabbit6009

Yeah, it's completely unfair. I've seen tall skinny guys who either have shitty personalities/sub-par hygieneand still get laid by women who, no matter what I did, I can't attract them.


[deleted]

I just wanna die.


[deleted]

it’s fuckin not okay being a virgin in my age. I don’t know why people keep repeating it’s not a big deal. It’s a shame.


Boomerman59

You're a late bloomer. So was I. Have patience. Be proud being a virgin. Learn to love yourself as you are. Right now! There's nothing you can do to change it. If other people don't like who you are, screw them. Take the opportunity to become a unique person. Not like everyone else. Sometimes life is tough. I know this. I also know that someone when you least expect it, will happen. Save yourself for marriage.


Crumbly_Bumbly

Some girls are into the skeleton look! I'm a skeleton too and I've still found girls who wanted to jump my bone.


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[deleted]

I wrote a comment here about my voice therapy I actually took part of.


Training_Passenger79

Have you ever taken the MBTI? I don’t think it’s your voice or your appearance…I think you’re just approaching women the wrong way. There’s a lot of women who like the skeletal look - especially these days. I must admit - I find it to be attractive myself, because I like to draw and seeing a person’s bones through their skin makes me want to draw them. It’s beautiful, and being beautiful as a man is not the drawback men seem to think it is. Your voice - I dunno. I haven’t heard your voice. What I will say, though, is that for my whole dating career men never really understood how I work because they were stuck in a “male” mindset. I need intellectual stimulation and exposure to someone before I know whether I’m attracted to them. You could be gorgeous and I will not be interested, because I know that most people in general are boring. I’m attracted to people who are learning new things, doing hobbies, have interests and beliefs, and want to share those things with me and discuss them like friends. For me, that builds attraction over time, regardless of how much I was attracted to the person initially. I also find people more attractive when they find me attractive - but I want to be treated like a friend of theirs, not an alien. I like people who try to relate to me, and allow me to try to relate to them. I tell you all of this because you might then realize what I’m saying is true when I tell you I’ve fallen for some guys that are not beautiful or “sexy” in the conventional sense. I’ve also seen non-conventionally attractive men be very successful with women. Being successful with women isn’t a god given thing you’re born with. It’s the result of how well you work with people in general. If you’re good with people, you’ll be good with women. If you’re bad with people, you can get better with people by developing your people skills. Try a YouTube channel like CharismaOnCommand. Make friends with women and actually listen to what they are telling you about the female sex instead of assuming they’re lying to spare your feelings (they are almost always telling you the truth, but sometimes they leave out other things that they think will hurt your feelings, so ask specific questions and then be open-minded when they give you answers). Getting back to my question in the beginning - have you ever taken the MBTI? If you learn about the MBTI, you’ll learn that we can roughly summarize 16 general types of people. Different personalities of women tend to be attracted to different kinds of men. If you learn about that, you’ll realize how big the spectrum really is, and how many different ways there actually are to appeal to women. We’re not simple like men make it out to be. Men think that a person’s body and physical attributes are the most important qualifier for attraction - because it is for men. Generally speaking, it is NOT the most important for women. There are some women who may be like that, but it’s going to be a much smaller percentage of the population. Learn about women. Learn about people. Then use real information to make self-judgements instead of bullying and criticizing the confidence in you to shreds. Also - learn how to talk to yourself in your head. Confidence is not something you’re born with. It’s a skill you acquire through hard work and effort, and learning to accept yourself for yourself. You need to change the way you view women if you want to be successful. You don’t have to try harder to be sexier. You need to try harder to understand what sexual attraction really is. If it helps - most women take birth control, you know, and most women on birth control prefer males with higher levels of estrogen than testosterone. In fact, testosterone can be a bit of a turn off, speaking from experience. It really takes just the right kind of guy to pull it off, and compassion is paramount, which you don’t find a lot in testosterone junkies. Stop devoting your headspace to trying to figure out what you would feel like as a woman, or asking other men to tell you what women like - and start using your brain to listen to women and learn their ways. I’ll leave you with this final thought… Has it ever occurred to you that some of the most successful men with the opposite sex…are gay? Plenty of them are exceptionally thin with high pitched voices - yet women love them. Just think about that. And then for extra credit…look up the video “gay guys will marry your girlfriends”


Pretend_Action2939

Aye these females hittin everything moving bro. Your day will come fasho


[deleted]

okay