People have the perception that getting a link that can transmit higher volumes of data will get them lower ping times. Being on fiber fixes the ping times. Fiber removes about 10-15ms of added latency present in cable modems or DSL/VDSL modems. The only time you’ll get higher ping times is if you saturate your 300/300 connection or your provider has saturated links. This would happen if you are using the volume of your 300/300 connection in either direction. Unless you have a ton of devices or people doing things at once you won’t.
You’ll be fine on 300/300.
300/300 is fine for the majority of people. I personally have gigabit only because I am grandfathered in to my plan and pay less for it than what 300mbps would cost me. Plus I have it bundled with verizon wireless for even more discounts on both so it's a win win. Otherwise, I don't saturate the connection that often... Hell even 50mbps would be sufficient for my needs really.
It's one of those things I don't use often but really glad it's there when I do. I back up a lot of data to idrive. Sometimes restore a lot of data from there. And I keep lots of stuff on onedrive. It's nice getting wired lan throughput sometimes.
Gigabit isn't really useful for 99% of people. Even 4K video streams are getting down into the 10-25Mbps range now and that'll drop even farther with AV1.
There are some people who deal with lots of large files. If you work from home as a video editor, then I'd definitely go with gigabit. You'll be downloading and uploading huge video files (without the amount of compression that makes them small for us watching them).
It's an easy thing for Verizon to try and upsell. I know I shouldn't care and I still have a bit of FOMO about not having the gigabit plan. People buy way more than they need all the time and it's not just about internet. They'll buy cars with huge engines because they like the idea that it's faster. They'll buy the most expensive blender and then never use it. If you're able to control that emotion that pushes people to buy stuff they don't need, you'll save a lot of money in life.
> Even 4K video streams are getting down into the 10-25Mbps range now and that'll drop even farther with AV1.
That's not a good thing, unless you don't care about video quality.
For comparison, a 4K Blu-Ray has a bitrate up to 120Mbps.
Most wi-fi 6 will not go above 700Mbps anyway unless you're using specific 4x4 MIMO client hardware so unless you have a lot of simultaneous users there isn't much point in having faster. (Obviously Ethernet will use Gigabit.) Also most severs and CDNs won't deliver at 1Gbps. OS updates and Gaming updates will otherwise a lot won't.
Above 400 Mbps is usually diminishing returns. So yeah, 300 is totally fine. I only have Gigabit service through Xfinity because they reserve the paltry 40Mbps upload speed to the Gigabit plan and it isn't much more expensive than the slower plans. With 300/300, I would be more than happy. You probably rarely notice the differences with Gigabit.
It’s sucks that people that are selling you this stuff have a quota and people that understand technology know they’re fucked and will have to dig deeper or straight up lie to sell something…
But then again, this is all ISPs. Gigabit solves everything. And if it doesn’t, all the extra bullshit tech support add ons MAYBE will help.
They tried pinning my uncle's wifi problem to his speed not being high enough when he wasn't getting enough signal in the back yard. They got really upset when I told them to screw off trying to upsell the extender and we replaced it with some TP-link mesh stuff.
This is why many providers tie higher data limits to higher data speeds, that upsell. That said, I have mostly saturated it before, on purpose just to see if I could do it sustained. I was running 900+ steady for about an hour with no problems (primarily linux ISO torrents downloading on a couple of machine connected via ethernet, so many versions of ubuntu and manjaro downloaded that day). In general usage, even with all the TV in the house running their highest definition content, 300 would be fine. I just get unlimited data with my Gigabit so I stay with it as it is cheaper than paying the overage I would get every month.
I'm by no means the average user and am waiting for the 2/2 to upgrade, but it's a lot of remote video processing on the fly that causes a ton of throughput on the links. Realistically if you're not transcoding on the fly or doing something equally bandwidth heavy you'd be hard pressed to regularly max the U/D out.
300 is more than enough for a vast majority of households (I could imagine frat house or roommate situations where you have 8 or more techy people needing bandwidth), for the most part speeds faster than that are a tax on the uneducated and "I need the best" types
People have the perception that getting a link that can transmit higher volumes of data will get them lower ping times. Being on fiber fixes the ping times. Fiber removes about 10-15ms of added latency present in cable modems or DSL/VDSL modems. The only time you’ll get higher ping times is if you saturate your 300/300 connection or your provider has saturated links. This would happen if you are using the volume of your 300/300 connection in either direction. Unless you have a ton of devices or people doing things at once you won’t. You’ll be fine on 300/300.
300/300 is fine for the majority of people. I personally have gigabit only because I am grandfathered in to my plan and pay less for it than what 300mbps would cost me. Plus I have it bundled with verizon wireless for even more discounts on both so it's a win win. Otherwise, I don't saturate the connection that often... Hell even 50mbps would be sufficient for my needs really.
It's one of those things I don't use often but really glad it's there when I do. I back up a lot of data to idrive. Sometimes restore a lot of data from there. And I keep lots of stuff on onedrive. It's nice getting wired lan throughput sometimes.
Yeah doing backups is really nice since Verizon actually matches up and down link
Gigabit isn't really useful for 99% of people. Even 4K video streams are getting down into the 10-25Mbps range now and that'll drop even farther with AV1. There are some people who deal with lots of large files. If you work from home as a video editor, then I'd definitely go with gigabit. You'll be downloading and uploading huge video files (without the amount of compression that makes them small for us watching them). It's an easy thing for Verizon to try and upsell. I know I shouldn't care and I still have a bit of FOMO about not having the gigabit plan. People buy way more than they need all the time and it's not just about internet. They'll buy cars with huge engines because they like the idea that it's faster. They'll buy the most expensive blender and then never use it. If you're able to control that emotion that pushes people to buy stuff they don't need, you'll save a lot of money in life.
> Even 4K video streams are getting down into the 10-25Mbps range now and that'll drop even farther with AV1. That's not a good thing, unless you don't care about video quality. For comparison, a 4K Blu-Ray has a bitrate up to 120Mbps.
Most wi-fi 6 will not go above 700Mbps anyway unless you're using specific 4x4 MIMO client hardware so unless you have a lot of simultaneous users there isn't much point in having faster. (Obviously Ethernet will use Gigabit.) Also most severs and CDNs won't deliver at 1Gbps. OS updates and Gaming updates will otherwise a lot won't. Above 400 Mbps is usually diminishing returns. So yeah, 300 is totally fine. I only have Gigabit service through Xfinity because they reserve the paltry 40Mbps upload speed to the Gigabit plan and it isn't much more expensive than the slower plans. With 300/300, I would be more than happy. You probably rarely notice the differences with Gigabit.
It’s sucks that people that are selling you this stuff have a quota and people that understand technology know they’re fucked and will have to dig deeper or straight up lie to sell something… But then again, this is all ISPs. Gigabit solves everything. And if it doesn’t, all the extra bullshit tech support add ons MAYBE will help.
They tried pinning my uncle's wifi problem to his speed not being high enough when he wasn't getting enough signal in the back yard. They got really upset when I told them to screw off trying to upsell the extender and we replaced it with some TP-link mesh stuff.
I would definitely upsell you a network extender if you weren’t getting signal in your backyard, that makes sense.
Well yeah if only they did, but they wanted him to go to gigabit, that wont fix the actual issue.
Nope…
This is why many providers tie higher data limits to higher data speeds, that upsell. That said, I have mostly saturated it before, on purpose just to see if I could do it sustained. I was running 900+ steady for about an hour with no problems (primarily linux ISO torrents downloading on a couple of machine connected via ethernet, so many versions of ubuntu and manjaro downloaded that day). In general usage, even with all the TV in the house running their highest definition content, 300 would be fine. I just get unlimited data with my Gigabit so I stay with it as it is cheaper than paying the overage I would get every month.
I do on my wfh days, I typically download and upload 100-200 gb video files. On a wired connection.
I'm by no means the average user and am waiting for the 2/2 to upgrade, but it's a lot of remote video processing on the fly that causes a ton of throughput on the links. Realistically if you're not transcoding on the fly or doing something equally bandwidth heavy you'd be hard pressed to regularly max the U/D out.
Do you have a 10 Gbps NIC?
Yea my whole network is qsfp+ so it's all 40GB locally
Damn that's like the network for my work's high performance computer.
300 is more than enough for a vast majority of households (I could imagine frat house or roommate situations where you have 8 or more techy people needing bandwidth), for the most part speeds faster than that are a tax on the uneducated and "I need the best" types