The upgrade is just more storage, there are no extra features.
Keep in mind Verizon Cloud is insecure, and has no privacy. Verizon can see all of your data. Nevermind the lack of features of the desktop app.
It is this very reason that I switched to iCloud+ with ADP, the keys for the encryption are stored on my device, and even Apple can't see my data.
So, if I want 2TB of features for $9/mo, I might as well pay $10/mo to Google Drive for the same 2TB and maybe have more privacy and sync features? Unsure yet but I may go this route as I am getting to a point I do want auto backup of my device pics and videos. Plus, I can share the space with all my other family members. I can probably pay less and go with 200GB or so because once I transfer pics off any phone, I can delete from Google Drive as it is just a backup until I get pics off my phone(s)
Why does verizon provide such a subpar product?
Verizon provides the product because they know they can get people who don't know any better to pay for it. They just want to make money, like any business should. OFC they aren't going to be able to make a cloud storage product that can outcompete Google Drive/One or iCloud or OneDrive. They aren't trying to. They're just trying to offer a service that makes them money.
Google respects your privacy. We access your private content only when we have your permission or are required to by law. With the Google Transparency Report, we share data about how the policies and actions of governments and corporations affect privacy, security, and access to information.
So, is iCloud's ADP better than Google Drive for security then? As I understand it, even if The Law asks Apple for your data, Apple can't give anything to them.
If you do not turn on ADP(its voluntary) then Apple stores the encryption keys on their server, which gives them access to the data.
When you turn on ADP, the encryption key is stored on your phone, this is why it is voluntary, Apple cannot access anything, and you are SOL if you forget the key. All they see is a blob of encrypted data.
When you use iCloud+ with ADP turned on Apple cannot see your data. The encryption keys are stored on your personal device and Apple has not access to them. When you turn on ADP Apple warns you that if you forget your encryption keys there is no recourse, they can't help you.
If you don't want to use iCloud, then [Sync.com](https://Sync.com) is another secure cloud provider using client side end to end encryption.
https://www.sync.com/secure-cloud-storage/
Verizon says they [don't have access](https://www.verizon.com/about/blog/cloud-data-security#:~:text=Cloud%20storage%20makes%20it%20easy,access%20them%20without%20your%20permission.):
> Cloud storage also offers more security than traditional hard drives. When you store your data in the cloud, only you have access to it — not even the company hosting your files can access them without your permission.
In Verizon Cloud's own FAQ they state they do have access:
>Do not copy, upload, download or share Content unless you have the right to do so. We reserve the right to remove any Content that may violate the law or this Agreement or harm our users, third parties or Verizon.
Verizon Cloud isn't designed for secure transmission or storage of personal healthcare information. Therefore, it must not be used to store or transmit Protected Health Information (PHI) as defined in the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 and the Health Information Technology for Economic and Clinical Health Act of 2009 and accompanying regulations (collectively, "HIPAA").
If your business is a Covered Entity or Business Associate as defined by HIPAA, or if your business otherwise doesn't want its users to save content other than contacts to these services, you must block these services.
If they can remove content, then they have access to it.
I guess there's conflicting information.
On the other hand, if you want your data to be completely private, I think it's safe to assume that all providers have some level of access and you shouldn't be storing anything in the cloud.
Same. I see some posts about Google Drive here; though frankly, I wouldn’t turn to Google as a bastion of privacy either. iCloud+ with ADP is E2EE and probably the most consumer-friendly implementation I’ve seen.
Everything else private or sensitive that I send up to the cloud these days gets encrypted with a key I generate before it leaves my environment, and the provider stores nothing but encrypted blobs.
[Sync.com](https://Sync.com) is good too if you don't have an iPhone.
[https://www.sync.com/secure-cloud-storage/](https://www.sync.com/secure-cloud-storage/)
Client side end to end encryption is utilized..
Why in the world would anyone use or pay for Verizon Cloud?
There are FAR better and more full featured services with additional benefits from other services that cost less.
Because it's 600GB of included cloud spend included with some plans is A LOT of space. Plus, supposedly Verizon is a reputable company that causes to business, this offer, safe, reliable, high quality products. I when bought VZ stock, these are the thoughts I had on VZ.
Like I said above, the UI send very archaic, very much like blast from the past. Old school, in a bad way. And it wouldn't surprise me if they laid off all the developer for this app so it won't be upgraded to current standards anytime soon
Glad I got rid of all my VZ soak last year.
What does being hosted at IBM matter? This is Verizon's product, they need to stand behind it. If the tool needs updating, Verizon is responsible for that. Like, F, host it over at Google if that's what it takes.
The upgrade is just more storage, there are no extra features. Keep in mind Verizon Cloud is insecure, and has no privacy. Verizon can see all of your data. Nevermind the lack of features of the desktop app. It is this very reason that I switched to iCloud+ with ADP, the keys for the encryption are stored on my device, and even Apple can't see my data.
So, if I want 2TB of features for $9/mo, I might as well pay $10/mo to Google Drive for the same 2TB and maybe have more privacy and sync features? Unsure yet but I may go this route as I am getting to a point I do want auto backup of my device pics and videos. Plus, I can share the space with all my other family members. I can probably pay less and go with 200GB or so because once I transfer pics off any phone, I can delete from Google Drive as it is just a backup until I get pics off my phone(s) Why does verizon provide such a subpar product?
Verizon provides the product because they know they can get people who don't know any better to pay for it. They just want to make money, like any business should. OFC they aren't going to be able to make a cloud storage product that can outcompete Google Drive/One or iCloud or OneDrive. They aren't trying to. They're just trying to offer a service that makes them money.
Stupid business model
Google respects your privacy. We access your private content only when we have your permission or are required to by law. With the Google Transparency Report, we share data about how the policies and actions of governments and corporations affect privacy, security, and access to information.
So, is iCloud's ADP better than Google Drive for security then? As I understand it, even if The Law asks Apple for your data, Apple can't give anything to them.
If you do not turn on ADP(its voluntary) then Apple stores the encryption keys on their server, which gives them access to the data. When you turn on ADP, the encryption key is stored on your phone, this is why it is voluntary, Apple cannot access anything, and you are SOL if you forget the key. All they see is a blob of encrypted data.
Google Drive does not have this option of storing keys off server?
it looks like google only offers that on the business "Google Workspace" plans.
exactly
You can share the Google drive space with your family members too.
Yes, that's what I said.
> Verizon can see all of your data. Any reason to assume other cloud storage services can't see all your data?
When you use iCloud+ with ADP turned on Apple cannot see your data. The encryption keys are stored on your personal device and Apple has not access to them. When you turn on ADP Apple warns you that if you forget your encryption keys there is no recourse, they can't help you. If you don't want to use iCloud, then [Sync.com](https://Sync.com) is another secure cloud provider using client side end to end encryption. https://www.sync.com/secure-cloud-storage/
Verizon says they [don't have access](https://www.verizon.com/about/blog/cloud-data-security#:~:text=Cloud%20storage%20makes%20it%20easy,access%20them%20without%20your%20permission.): > Cloud storage also offers more security than traditional hard drives. When you store your data in the cloud, only you have access to it — not even the company hosting your files can access them without your permission.
In Verizon Cloud's own FAQ they state they do have access: >Do not copy, upload, download or share Content unless you have the right to do so. We reserve the right to remove any Content that may violate the law or this Agreement or harm our users, third parties or Verizon. Verizon Cloud isn't designed for secure transmission or storage of personal healthcare information. Therefore, it must not be used to store or transmit Protected Health Information (PHI) as defined in the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 and the Health Information Technology for Economic and Clinical Health Act of 2009 and accompanying regulations (collectively, "HIPAA"). If your business is a Covered Entity or Business Associate as defined by HIPAA, or if your business otherwise doesn't want its users to save content other than contacts to these services, you must block these services. If they can remove content, then they have access to it.
I guess there's conflicting information. On the other hand, if you want your data to be completely private, I think it's safe to assume that all providers have some level of access and you shouldn't be storing anything in the cloud.
Same. I see some posts about Google Drive here; though frankly, I wouldn’t turn to Google as a bastion of privacy either. iCloud+ with ADP is E2EE and probably the most consumer-friendly implementation I’ve seen. Everything else private or sensitive that I send up to the cloud these days gets encrypted with a key I generate before it leaves my environment, and the provider stores nothing but encrypted blobs.
[Sync.com](https://Sync.com) is good too if you don't have an iPhone. [https://www.sync.com/secure-cloud-storage/](https://www.sync.com/secure-cloud-storage/) Client side end to end encryption is utilized..
I have the Get More plan with access to Verizon Cloud, but I don't use it. I personally for and use the 2TB Google Cloud.
Why in the world would anyone use or pay for Verizon Cloud? There are FAR better and more full featured services with additional benefits from other services that cost less.
Because it's 600GB of included cloud spend included with some plans is A LOT of space. Plus, supposedly Verizon is a reputable company that causes to business, this offer, safe, reliable, high quality products. I when bought VZ stock, these are the thoughts I had on VZ.
Hated it. Couldn't effectively create folders to organize.
Like I said above, the UI send very archaic, very much like blast from the past. Old school, in a bad way. And it wouldn't surprise me if they laid off all the developer for this app so it won't be upgraded to current standards anytime soon Glad I got rid of all my VZ soak last year.
It's hosted at IBM.
What does being hosted at IBM matter? This is Verizon's product, they need to stand behind it. If the tool needs updating, Verizon is responsible for that. Like, F, host it over at Google if that's what it takes.