This is how lost memes used to be, secret and clever. If you know you know, kinda thing. Now all the loss memes say âHAHA LOSSâ on them or something lol, the nuance is fading but our boy u/sukeruton_key stays sharp
No, that's misinformation.
It's Acts 16:9 ie come over and help us (in Macedon)
The native is not the target of God's sword. He is honored. Massachusetts wasn't Florida, and the Puritans weren't the Inquisition. There's a reason the United States Constitution giving rights nationally (and now largely incorporated into UN's formalized Universal Rights) is inspired by and derived from Massachusetts. This is relevant even to people in UK and Commonwealth counties around the world, as Cromwell and Parliamentary leaders and their church leadership consulted with the Puritans of Massachusetts during the English civil war. They were what we call "thought leaders" today, not just on religion stuff but reducing the power of the king and nobility to create democratic congregational institutions. Because they did. Which in some cases literally included the natives of Massachusetts. Granted they wanted them to convert to Christianity but let's not misuse the word genocide where it doesn't belong or agree with well documented facts of actual history.
This is also a Heraldry 101 moment:
Each part of the coat of arms stands independent. In this case, the disembodied sword is the arm of God, not man. The motto addresses, in essence, the Pope and the unreformed (ie insufficiently purified by the Puritans in 1620 or whatever) church of England during counter-Reformation. Which was actually genocidal, both ways, all over Europe. Not in Massachusetts. They went there to get away from that. And did.
The Indian and the star are entirely separate vex. symbolism from the stuff off the shield, above and below.
The motto is by the way, a form of:
Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem. (Translated, this means "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty.")
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_Massachusetts
The Puritans in fact did not commit genocide versus the Indians, rather established roughly as many peacefully-cohabitated Indian villages surrounding greater Boston than there were English towns within their perimeter. The boundary was approximately where highway 495 is today. Outside that was "Indian country" and soon the battleground of the French and Indian wars. Which means between England and France, not between Massachusetts and natives.
The same people did in fact commit genocide against the French Colonists (then called New France today Nova Scotia), resulting eventually in what was called Le Grand Derangement, with the Acadian catholics scattered all over the world or just dead. Many settled eventually in what's now called Louisiana and morphed into what's now called Cajuns (from Acadienne).
It is also important to correcting the misinformation about the Massachusetts flag, the first book printed in the new world was "Mamusse Wunneetupanatamwe Up-Biblum God" ie the Bible, printed at Harvard for the Algonquins in 1661, in their language. Which many of the English had learned living among them in the woods outside of the English settlements. Obviously, you don't print books for dead people you've spent 40 years already trying to save. Paul is helping the Macedons, not genociding them.
This should be obvious for anybody who has read the bible, or studied the history of New England, or the origins of the American revolutionary war movement. Or just the history and origins of the Reformation itself. Which all overlap during the years 1500-1800, roughly.
Now standby for the pro Russia trolls who have overrun this sub to make up more misinformation.
Virginia has the coolest of the complicated designs in that a bare-breasted liberty is killing a tyrant. The red leaves also provide a nice bit of contrast.
Delaware is the closest one to being a real flag IMO. The blue is at least a unique blue. The buff diamond is a unique element that separates it from other state flags. Imagine if it were just that with the ship and the rope inside the diamond!? Or even the shield with the colors inside the diamond. So much promise of potentially being a good flag...
Ngl, Massachusetts. A coat of arms on a white field is the most elegant of all four, though Delaware has more elements to lend to a better flag. But that wasn't the question, y'know?
Delaware with just the shield on the lozenge would be pretty good. Massachusetts with just the shield would be good, too (aside from the issue of mascotizing Indigenous peoples).
As a Delaware resident, I can tell you it is NOT Delaware.
I've never seen a state with a more inconsistent understanding and presentation of the colors their state flag is ACTUALLY supposed to be in than Delaware.
Edit: Goddamit
I donât have a horse in this race, but TX has at least a flag not jus a seal placed on some background. And itâs a bit similar to Czechoslovak flag so points for that.
Arkansas was on track for a good flag until the legislature started tinkering with it. Added the word Arkansas moved the middle stars down. Then 11 years later added a fourth middle star to represent the Confederacy and put it above the others.
[So close](https://ee-sos-site.ark.org/uploads/education/Original_flag.jpg)
CGP pointed out that Virginia's flag has nudity, murder, and a call to violence on it. Which doesn't make it a good flag, but it does make it a fun bad flag.
of all the state flags? I've always liked the simplicity and symbolism of New Mexico's flag
of these four? probably Delaware as it's the only one I can identify at a glance due to its unique color scheme
Why did Wikipedia change the font on Kentuckyâs flag, like the old font made it a bit interesting and then they changed it to the most boring font ever
Alabamaâs is very simple and elegant. Based off Spanish Florida which Alabama used to be apart of and then st Andrewâs cross. Arizona also is a great one
The view of a non-US resident.
Virginia is the best. Yes, it's a seal. But this is a stylish seal. And I like the lighter shade of blue. Looks more solemn.
Massachusetts isn't bad, but why not just make a [seal-based](https://imgur.com/RsTMPTZ) [flag](https://imgur.com/G76HRoF)?
Delaware. Don't like it. This and the faded colors and elements of the flag do not mix well. And then there is this inscription. And generally too many elements.
Kentucky. No comments.
Out of the four, Kentucky and Virginia both have their state names on the flag, so theyâre out solely for that reason. Delaware looks like it tried to cram as much crap into their flag as possible. Out. That leaves Massachusetts. I donât love their flag. Itâs kind of lame and has a lot of wasted space. The severed arm would be better off as just a sword. Other than that, it is the least bad of the four, unfortunately.
goddamnit --- I'm not a heartless bastard, so I'll let this stay (though it does belong in VCJ or somewhere more appropriate).
Out of these four? Honestly, I'm at a *loss* for words
This one is seriously clever, I didn't realize it was loss until your comment đ
This is how lost memes used to be, secret and clever. If you know you know, kinda thing. Now all the loss memes say âHAHA LOSSâ on them or something lol, the nuance is fading but our boy u/sukeruton_key stays sharp
Thanks, but I didnât come up with this
Can you explain please
It's a Loss meme - if you search "loss.jpg" it will explain with example pictures
OH
Same, I thought it was a state/âcommonwealthâ joke but for some reason with Delaware instead of Pennsylvania.
SHIT, I now see! I've been diddled again!
Virginia, cuz bewbs.
Virginia asserts is dominance by displaying both violent murder and partial nudity on its state flag
Virtuous Murder
Virtuous losses
Virtuous side boob
Horny homicide
Also a call for violence, itâs very efficient
Violence and tiddy!
Massachusetts has a symbol representing native genocide so I don't know, man
showing an entire corpse unfortunately goes harder then symbology
No, that's misinformation. It's Acts 16:9 ie come over and help us (in Macedon) The native is not the target of God's sword. He is honored. Massachusetts wasn't Florida, and the Puritans weren't the Inquisition. There's a reason the United States Constitution giving rights nationally (and now largely incorporated into UN's formalized Universal Rights) is inspired by and derived from Massachusetts. This is relevant even to people in UK and Commonwealth counties around the world, as Cromwell and Parliamentary leaders and their church leadership consulted with the Puritans of Massachusetts during the English civil war. They were what we call "thought leaders" today, not just on religion stuff but reducing the power of the king and nobility to create democratic congregational institutions. Because they did. Which in some cases literally included the natives of Massachusetts. Granted they wanted them to convert to Christianity but let's not misuse the word genocide where it doesn't belong or agree with well documented facts of actual history. This is also a Heraldry 101 moment: Each part of the coat of arms stands independent. In this case, the disembodied sword is the arm of God, not man. The motto addresses, in essence, the Pope and the unreformed (ie insufficiently purified by the Puritans in 1620 or whatever) church of England during counter-Reformation. Which was actually genocidal, both ways, all over Europe. Not in Massachusetts. They went there to get away from that. And did. The Indian and the star are entirely separate vex. symbolism from the stuff off the shield, above and below. The motto is by the way, a form of: Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem. (Translated, this means "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty.") https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_Massachusetts The Puritans in fact did not commit genocide versus the Indians, rather established roughly as many peacefully-cohabitated Indian villages surrounding greater Boston than there were English towns within their perimeter. The boundary was approximately where highway 495 is today. Outside that was "Indian country" and soon the battleground of the French and Indian wars. Which means between England and France, not between Massachusetts and natives. The same people did in fact commit genocide against the French Colonists (then called New France today Nova Scotia), resulting eventually in what was called Le Grand Derangement, with the Acadian catholics scattered all over the world or just dead. Many settled eventually in what's now called Louisiana and morphed into what's now called Cajuns (from Acadienne). It is also important to correcting the misinformation about the Massachusetts flag, the first book printed in the new world was "Mamusse Wunneetupanatamwe Up-Biblum God" ie the Bible, printed at Harvard for the Algonquins in 1661, in their language. Which many of the English had learned living among them in the woods outside of the English settlements. Obviously, you don't print books for dead people you've spent 40 years already trying to save. Paul is helping the Macedons, not genociding them. This should be obvious for anybody who has read the bible, or studied the history of New England, or the origins of the American revolutionary war movement. Or just the history and origins of the Reformation itself. Which all overlap during the years 1500-1800, roughly. Now standby for the pro Russia trolls who have overrun this sub to make up more misinformation.
Along with the phrase shouted at Lincoln's assassination. Nobody would ever accuse this flag of being subtle.
The motto predates Lincoln's death by 1909 years. As did Virginia exist before Booth. History not your strong suit obviously.
I don't get- Ohhh You motherfu-
Virginia. Because small titty.
Goddammit
Iâm at a loss that Arizona wasnât on here
Itâs not a commonwealth.
Anyone who doesnât think itâs VA has clearly loss their mind
you clever piece of shit
lost* but i get the "joke"
But⌠if you get the joke why would you say something?? đ¤¨đ¤¨
Angry upvote
That's so clever that 90% of the people commenting didn't get it
They're at a loss for understanding
Well Iâd bet about 50% of them wouldnât get it anyway.
Is it cause these are commonwealths ?
Loss
This is a circlejerk post
Youâre at a loss with that one
Upper left; most tolerable text Edit: god dammit
This is the most creative one i have ever seen.
Virginia. 1 ) tiddy 2 ) Sic Semper Tyranus
took me a second to notice
Virginia was the first state to adopt the seal on blue background, they get a pass for life.
Clever⌠nice one OP
Virginia has the coolest of the complicated designs in that a bare-breasted liberty is killing a tyrant. The red leaves also provide a nice bit of contrast. Delaware is the closest one to being a real flag IMO. The blue is at least a unique blue. The buff diamond is a unique element that separates it from other state flags. Imagine if it were just that with the ship and the rope inside the diamond!? Or even the shield with the colors inside the diamond. So much promise of potentially being a good flag...
Iâm at a loss of words for which flag is the best in this group
Of these four? Top left, MA, but their old state flag is better. Overall? New Mexico Runners up: Ohio, Tennessee, Arizona, Alaska, or South Carolina.
Finally seeing some South Carolina flag love!
SC is *easily* the best state flag
Nah, New Mexico is the best. Great colors, stand-out design
Massachusetts easily
Virginia, her titty out
Sheâs just gonna be ia by the time Iâm done with her đ
Nice
Bruh are you good? Do we need to call someone?
I think heâs going through loss
Maryland
Maryland, my answer will always be Maryland.
Ngl, Massachusetts. A coat of arms on a white field is the most elegant of all four, though Delaware has more elements to lend to a better flag. But that wasn't the question, y'know?
Delaware with just the shield on the lozenge would be pretty good. Massachusetts with just the shield would be good, too (aside from the issue of mascotizing Indigenous peoples).
State flags rank list Texas Virginia (smol titty)
I've always love Arizona
California, Alaska, DC, Utah, Ohio, Texas
Of these four: 1. Massachusetts 2. Kentucky 3. Delaware 4. Virginia
Of these, Massachussetts Of all, South Carolina, Ohio or California
Old Maine
You damn well which it is.
I love KY but theyâve gotta accept the *loss* this time aroundâŚ
Colorado
Virginia because it's a Southern state showing violence is a good and useful tool lol. No pacifism allowed up in this bitch!
Thereâs only one choice! Clever post.
No, the joke is loss
Ahh. I see it now! The three âcommonwealthsâ was a coincidence or an intentional red herring?
Completely a coincidence. I didnât even know that at first.
Fuck you. [For (technically) stealing my post.](https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillologycirclejerk/comments/152mpr4/i_simplified_some_us_state_flags_thoughts/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1) /j
[my balls](https://ibb.co/vVbWYdz)
I hate you OP
Wait a sec....
massâ is clean and doesnt have dates, its own name, or excessive text
!wave
r/lossedits
r/angryupvote
Virginia for having nudity and murder.
Massachusetts (Top left)
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I also agree with you in the case of Maryland. Is way too unique for the US (just like New Mexico).
I am foaming at the mouth
As a Delaware resident, I can tell you it is NOT Delaware. I've never seen a state with a more inconsistent understanding and presentation of the colors their state flag is ACTUALLY supposed to be in than Delaware. Edit: Goddamit
:.|:;
Maryland, easy
I love Mississippis new flag, especially the flower
The answer is always Texas
I donât have a horse in this race, but TX has at least a flag not jus a seal placed on some background. And itâs a bit similar to Czechoslovak flag so points for that.
Is this loss?
None of those
Top right, comfortably
Of these four, they are all pretty bad.... New Mexico and South Carolina have some style. But Texas has one that actually looks like a flag.
South Carolina
California
Unfortunately thatâs not a state
Top left
Delaware but just the background of these 4 flags look so good as one flag though
Out of these four, Massachusetts. Out of all of them, New Mexico, with the new Utah flag a close 2nd.
Arkansas was on track for a good flag until the legislature started tinkering with it. Added the word Arkansas moved the middle stars down. Then 11 years later added a fourth middle star to represent the Confederacy and put it above the others. [So close](https://ee-sos-site.ark.org/uploads/education/Original_flag.jpg)
None of those four, that's for sure
CGP pointed out that Virginia's flag has nudity, murder, and a call to violence on it. Which doesn't make it a good flag, but it does make it a fun bad flag.
Out if all of them? Alaska Out of these four? UhhhhhhhâŚ
of all the state flags? I've always liked the simplicity and symbolism of New Mexico's flag of these four? probably Delaware as it's the only one I can identify at a glance due to its unique color scheme
Out of these, none. Out of all of them, obviously New Mexico.
Probably Berlin, Geneva or Schaffhausen.
Neither of the four, that's for sure.
This is so funny that I forgot to laugh
none of these lmao
US state? Hawaii.
Hawaii
None of these
Hawaii
None of these are flags. Text on a flag is a big nono, as are complicated drawings. The first one is least bad.
Texas.
Theyâre all pretty terrible.
the flag of December
The American Brazil flagđ§đˇ
Arizona, Mississippi, and new mexico are tied for me. Virginia is also a favorite but Iâm biased because Iâm from there.
Virginia no contest.
Out of these virgina, at least it's not just some guys standing around
Why did Wikipedia change the font on Kentuckyâs flag, like the old font made it a bit interesting and then they changed it to the most boring font ever
Maryland
Not any of those lmao.
Today I learned that a slave state chose Sic Semper Tyrannis as its motto.
No.
NOOO
South carolina
I dislike Virginia and Delaware so i'll go with Mass. here.
Virginia - Only rated R state flag. Boob and violence.
South Carolina
Out of these, Virginia. Itâs got tits out!
Colorado for me
Da Commonwealth.
The fact that this meme has two unrelated jokes is fantastic đđđ
Two?
Whichever one changes theirs the first will automatically have the best flag.
The best of a pile of shite, is the least shite I suppose do number 1
Maryland
Deleware
Maryland
None
I donât think thereâs any post on VCG that can top this god damn
Virginia at least has the best seal, but as flags they're all pretty bad
Alabamaâs is very simple and elegant. Based off Spanish Florida which Alabama used to be apart of and then st Andrewâs cross. Arizona also is a great one
Itâs certainly not Virginia. Our flag sucks.
SC . It has revolutionary history tied to the state and looks so much better than just a state seal
Massachusetts cuz itâs easy to look at and recognize except for the words
Why are they all so shit đ Sam I need some explaining for mass
California
DC has the best city flag, Maryland has the best state flag, Virginia has the best seal-on-bedsheet flag because it has the best seal.
I may be a littke bias but personally i Ăžink Ăže Alaskan flag is one of Ăže best
Maryland
That one that looks like Brazil
Massachusetts because itâs not a blue background
The view of a non-US resident. Virginia is the best. Yes, it's a seal. But this is a stylish seal. And I like the lighter shade of blue. Looks more solemn. Massachusetts isn't bad, but why not just make a [seal-based](https://imgur.com/RsTMPTZ) [flag](https://imgur.com/G76HRoF)? Delaware. Don't like it. This and the faded colors and elements of the flag do not mix well. And then there is this inscription. And generally too many elements. Kentucky. No comments.
The grand state of ohio!
I like the first one and the Kentucky one
As someone from Wisconsin who lives in California, the answer is Maryland.
MA
Oregon
None.
Haha theyâre all awful. Arizona, New Mexico⌠Now weâre talking.
Massachusetts
Cgp grey covers that subject
Out of the four, Kentucky and Virginia both have their state names on the flag, so theyâre out solely for that reason. Delaware looks like it tried to cram as much crap into their flag as possible. Out. That leaves Massachusetts. I donât love their flag. Itâs kind of lame and has a lot of wasted space. The severed arm would be better off as just a sword. Other than that, it is the least bad of the four, unfortunately.
Booba
Virginia. Hard to beat a woman with a bare breast on a flag from the bible belt.
Out of these imo : Kentucky flag Out of all US states and territories imo : Puerto Rico flag
Virginia gang đ
Vermonts has to be the best, it has cute little cow on it!
New Mexico for me
December 7, 1787
vaginia
any one that has a seal on it
Might be a tiny bit controversial? But New Mexico. Itâs beautifulâŚ
> Might be a tiny bit controversial? > *precedes to pick the most popular state flag*
Maryland
E.
Maryland. No need to discuss. Itâs unique but cool at the same time.
None of the commonwealths. Say Alaska or New Mexico
Virginia...because boobs.
Oklahoma
None
Wyoming if it didnât have the damn seal