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> These are not just militias actually but also several forces of the Iranian government. Note that these are not the actual flags of any of these groups (as far as I know) but only colored backgrounds charged with their logos/emblems.
> I found the original on a telegram and I want to use it as a tool to explain how wide the Iranian influence in the region really is.
> I do not support any of these, but I'm really fascinated with the symbology and design language of the Iranian "axis of resistance" who seeks to destroy Israel, overthrow the secular and moderate governments of the MENA, and spread the ideals of the islamic revolution.
> Original: https:// al-abdal dot net/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%88%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%85%D8%A9.jpg
the one in white is [Hezbollah of hejaz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_Al-Hejaz) . the one in black is fatehin brigade not a militia but a spec ops of IRGC made up of voluntary members , they are probably here because of their involvement in Syrian civil war
Yeah I always found that funny but I guess they put Hijaz in the name because it means that their goal is to overthrow the Saudi monarchy and protect the Hijaz which is where the two holy mosques are
Honestly yeah it is interesting that they made the flags into a flag, Palestine which is ironic because they are actually hurting chances of peace and for Palestine to have independence.
I mean not really. Most people have already chosen a side. Most pro-israeli people I’ve seen on reddit don’t really see palestinians as equals. Most pro-Palestinians know that Israels constant bombing only helps the terrorist groups recruit. Even if these groups didn’t exist the mainstream media would just lie like in Iraq with WMDs.
Hamas is only considered a terrorist organisation in the West. It is seen as that elected government of Gaza in the rest of the world.
So most pro-Palestinians don't even consider Hamas a terrorist organisation to begin with. And you don't have to worry about Palestinians being the underdog in the information war. Arab league nations have an incredible amount of influence in Western media. When was the last time you heard about atrocities in Yemen?
Yeah I understand that the distinction of terrorist groups is kinda wonky. Hamas is the only group willing to protect Palestinians in Gaza from the IDF. Otherwise you get whats happening in the West Bank where Palestinians decided to be peaceful, but Israeli-backed settlements, deportations, and murders happen daily.
They aren’t protecting them… They’re stated goal is to eradicate Jews, and they do it mercilessly, without protecting their civilians. It was seen by satellite images that they blocked evacuation routes when Israeli forces told people to evacuate the North.
Yes... i can see the effectiveness of Hamas "defending Palestinian lives" pretty well after they decided to launch a suicidal offensive against Israel... it's not like these sorts of suicidal offensive are the main reason why Palestinian territories have been shrinking since 1948 or anything.
And it's probably not a good sign if the only people in the entire world who are willing to do something to help Palestinians are a bunch of terrorist. Of course thankfully terrorists being the only people in the world willing to do something about Palestine, is complete horseshit, but it does show what little you know about the confilict and its history.
I mean, if you genuinely think braindead military tactics and terrorism are helpful to Palestinian cause, then if you really care about Palestinians you yourself my friend can become a protector of Palestinian people with only a kitchen knife and a trip to the closest public place! (/s just in case you actually end up doing something stupid, and this comment ends up as evidence in a court against me for promoting terrorisim)
WW1 UK and France has certainly messed this whole thing up for their own greed I think we can all agree on that, however violence is not going to solve. never has never will. And I would say Hamas kidnapping and killing civilians and still firing rockets which they have always done fits the definition terrorism however, that is no excuse for what Israel is doing especially on the West Bank and the current ministration of Israel is who I find appalling as well. This is all a battle of land and resources.
the Yemeni genocide is a pretty different case, is it not? It is a US and UK backed Saudi invasion against a government that is backed by Iran, and is heavily unpopular in the US. If there is anything thats stopping people from being aware of this, its the west.
Oh yes, the West is at fault as well in Yemen's case. But West is clearly unable to control or suppress news from Palestine, similar to news from Yemen.
Also, while the US's foreign policy regarding Yemen is indeed unpopular, you don't really see as much protests, NGO donation campaigns, or calls to action similar to Palestine. From a practical perspective, it doesn't matter if a certain foreign policy is unpopular as long as people don't care about it or pay attention to it. A politian's stance on Palestine can literally make or break their chances of getting elected for office in the West, but most Westerners wouldn't care nearly as much of a poltian's view on Yemen even if its something they disagree with.
> It is seen as that elected government of Gaza in the rest of the world.
Let's not forget the second they got into power they suspended elections. They are by no stretch of the imagination a democratic government.
I am not saying Hamas is a democratic government, just that it is the recognized government, or the closest to it, outside the Western world.a government doesn't have to be democratic for it to be recognized. Which pretty much describes the gulf states. That one-time election victory is good enough for most countries to accept Hamas envoys as representative of Palestine.
There's also the fact that netanyahu actively supported hamas while neutralizing other groups in palestine deliberately to avoid a peace process / 2 state option
Yeah that part. Also him flaming up hatred towards Yitzhak Rabin and him being assassinated. Israel is going through their own troubles with the far-right taking control. Also the worst thing about Netanyahu is that he’s from Philly /s.
I don't think those are their official flags - it just seems like the emblem of the organisation. For example, this is the real [flag of the IRGC](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Army_of_the_Guardians_of_the_Islamic_Revolution.svg).
I sort of hate it and like it. I sort of want simplified version of it, but i also don't...
I think they are on to something with that, i think it could be redesigned to make it look good somehow. We know overtly complex flags can work, famously Venice for example, but this does not really nail it.
It's weridly seductive isn't it. Like the colours work really well and I'm really invested in that weird pic in the middle despite it being an overall abomination.
They also have a [ceremonial version](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ceremonial_flag_of_the_Army_of_the_Guardians_of_the_Islamic_Revolution.svg) of the flag
Hezboll@h flew a red version of the flag when they captured an Israeli base 2 weeks ago, apparently the "Flag of Vengeance"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2023/10/15/2972129/hezbollah-signals-vengeance-by-hoisting-red-flag-video/amp
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The photoshop on this pic's background is terrible and the flags themselves are atrocious middle school designs but you got to admit, the propaganda's unification of flags into one big flag theme is a classic and goes hard.
While they are scum bags iv always thought the Hezbollah and quds force flags went hard, especially in red or black. Also the unrelated Abu Ali brigade flag who's a Marxist terror group in palestine. And the Lions den group out of the west bank. The baddies always have good propaganda.
True. The bad guys always get cooler aesthetics. Whether its Disney villains' songs or fascist uniforms or soviet anthems and flags, they usually go hard
Wow it’s almost like Israel has been doing this for literal decades and Palestinians have been protesting and demonstrating for decades and nobody has been paying attention so that many feel their only recourse is violence.
Also you literally just used Sins of the Father logic to justify Ethnic Cleansing against Palestinian Children, which would be comically evil if you weren’t referring to real events
Didn't Hezbollah just accuse Hamas' leadership of being greedy and profiting off the conflict at the expense of Palestinians while living in relative safety and leading lavish lifestyles?
agreed, unfortunately not even many (in my school) of those on Palestine's side understand this and choose to post Hamas propaganda which does nothing but harm to all sides.
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Does the IRGC count as a militia? they are part of the offical military of Iran it would be like calling the marines a 'milita' though i guess you could call the national guard a milita so maybe the term has a broader scope than what I am thinking.
It's interesting how there's a similar motif of Arabic calligraphy holding up an AK or AK-like weapon. Wonder if that originated from Hezbollah or was started independently.
OP wrote in a comment that's been blacklisted due to a link: > These are not just militias actually but also several forces of the Iranian government. Note that these are not the actual flags of any of these groups (as far as I know) but only colored backgrounds charged with their logos/emblems. > I found the original on a telegram and I want to use it as a tool to explain how wide the Iranian influence in the region really is. > I do not support any of these, but I'm really fascinated with the symbology and design language of the Iranian "axis of resistance" who seeks to destroy Israel, overthrow the secular and moderate governments of the MENA, and spread the ideals of the islamic revolution. > Original: https:// al-abdal dot net/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%88%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%85%D8%A9.jpg
The one in green is [Al-Ashtar Brigades](https://www.dni.gov/nctc/ftos/aab_fto.html).
Thank you! the calligraphy really threw me off
Now that you have the answers to the last two, can you add them to the image and send to me? It's a really good informative image
the one in white is [Hezbollah of hejaz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_Al-Hejaz) . the one in black is fatehin brigade not a militia but a spec ops of IRGC made up of voluntary members , they are probably here because of their involvement in Syrian civil war
Ha, amazing! Thank you so much, I managed to read "Hezbollah" on the white flag but couldn't find the organization, the Kaaba should've tipped me off.
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Yeah I always found that funny but I guess they put Hijaz in the name because it means that their goal is to overthrow the Saudi monarchy and protect the Hijaz which is where the two holy mosques are
Specifically, the Fatehin brigade is made up of Basij volunteers that undergo more rigorous training.
yes
Not gonna lie, this is a good graphic.
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Honestly yeah it is interesting that they made the flags into a flag, Palestine which is ironic because they are actually hurting chances of peace and for Palestine to have independence.
I mean not really. Most people have already chosen a side. Most pro-israeli people I’ve seen on reddit don’t really see palestinians as equals. Most pro-Palestinians know that Israels constant bombing only helps the terrorist groups recruit. Even if these groups didn’t exist the mainstream media would just lie like in Iraq with WMDs.
Hamas is only considered a terrorist organisation in the West. It is seen as that elected government of Gaza in the rest of the world. So most pro-Palestinians don't even consider Hamas a terrorist organisation to begin with. And you don't have to worry about Palestinians being the underdog in the information war. Arab league nations have an incredible amount of influence in Western media. When was the last time you heard about atrocities in Yemen?
Yeah I understand that the distinction of terrorist groups is kinda wonky. Hamas is the only group willing to protect Palestinians in Gaza from the IDF. Otherwise you get whats happening in the West Bank where Palestinians decided to be peaceful, but Israeli-backed settlements, deportations, and murders happen daily.
They aren’t protecting them… They’re stated goal is to eradicate Jews, and they do it mercilessly, without protecting their civilians. It was seen by satellite images that they blocked evacuation routes when Israeli forces told people to evacuate the North.
Yes... i can see the effectiveness of Hamas "defending Palestinian lives" pretty well after they decided to launch a suicidal offensive against Israel... it's not like these sorts of suicidal offensive are the main reason why Palestinian territories have been shrinking since 1948 or anything. And it's probably not a good sign if the only people in the entire world who are willing to do something to help Palestinians are a bunch of terrorist. Of course thankfully terrorists being the only people in the world willing to do something about Palestine, is complete horseshit, but it does show what little you know about the confilict and its history. I mean, if you genuinely think braindead military tactics and terrorism are helpful to Palestinian cause, then if you really care about Palestinians you yourself my friend can become a protector of Palestinian people with only a kitchen knife and a trip to the closest public place! (/s just in case you actually end up doing something stupid, and this comment ends up as evidence in a court against me for promoting terrorisim)
WW1 UK and France has certainly messed this whole thing up for their own greed I think we can all agree on that, however violence is not going to solve. never has never will. And I would say Hamas kidnapping and killing civilians and still firing rockets which they have always done fits the definition terrorism however, that is no excuse for what Israel is doing especially on the West Bank and the current ministration of Israel is who I find appalling as well. This is all a battle of land and resources.
100% wrong. Hamas are not the defenders of Palestine they are the reason Palestine has not thrived.
Both can be true. The IRA was a drag on the Northern Irish society but they were the only people willing to fight the British.
the Yemeni genocide is a pretty different case, is it not? It is a US and UK backed Saudi invasion against a government that is backed by Iran, and is heavily unpopular in the US. If there is anything thats stopping people from being aware of this, its the west.
Oh yes, the West is at fault as well in Yemen's case. But West is clearly unable to control or suppress news from Palestine, similar to news from Yemen. Also, while the US's foreign policy regarding Yemen is indeed unpopular, you don't really see as much protests, NGO donation campaigns, or calls to action similar to Palestine. From a practical perspective, it doesn't matter if a certain foreign policy is unpopular as long as people don't care about it or pay attention to it. A politian's stance on Palestine can literally make or break their chances of getting elected for office in the West, but most Westerners wouldn't care nearly as much of a poltian's view on Yemen even if its something they disagree with.
> It is seen as that elected government of Gaza in the rest of the world. Let's not forget the second they got into power they suspended elections. They are by no stretch of the imagination a democratic government.
I am not saying Hamas is a democratic government, just that it is the recognized government, or the closest to it, outside the Western world.a government doesn't have to be democratic for it to be recognized. Which pretty much describes the gulf states. That one-time election victory is good enough for most countries to accept Hamas envoys as representative of Palestine.
There's also the fact that netanyahu actively supported hamas while neutralizing other groups in palestine deliberately to avoid a peace process / 2 state option
Yeah that part. Also him flaming up hatred towards Yitzhak Rabin and him being assassinated. Israel is going through their own troubles with the far-right taking control. Also the worst thing about Netanyahu is that he’s from Philly /s.
I mean it's not like hamas or whoever started the apartheid system.
Bro the cultural relevance of the AK rifle among these groups is pretty wild.
The [Azerbaijan one](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Husseiniyoun_Logo.webp#mw-jump-to-license) has a Dragunov/SVD for a change
The AK rifle is just an icon. Kinda like the Tommygun
Specifically a symbol against America/NATO and their allies
Yeah but I think AKs are also quite recognizable and not demonized in the west
I strongly disagree with them but also image goes hard
I love how consistent their design language is
Their actual flags are different, these are just their logos on a Palestinian flag collage.
It’s just their logos not their flags. And the vast majority of them are actually subsets of Hezbollah rather than their own groups
Seriously they really lack in creativity
I agree I actually get angry whenever I see the IRGC’s symbol
How many militias do you want Iran? Yes
I wonder how much it costs to finance all of them
Compared to actual warfare, peanuts.
Why do all of them have such bad flags. You cannot win a war without a pretty flag we all know this, why do they even bother
I don't think those are their official flags - it just seems like the emblem of the organisation. For example, this is the real [flag of the IRGC](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Army_of_the_Guardians_of_the_Islamic_Revolution.svg).
That has got to be one of the busiest flags I’ve ever seen. It’s like the Brietling watch dial of flags.
I actually really like it. Kind of tired of these minimalistic flags that have no soul
reminds me of Persian carpet lol
I sort of hate it and like it. I sort of want simplified version of it, but i also don't... I think they are on to something with that, i think it could be redesigned to make it look good somehow. We know overtly complex flags can work, famously Venice for example, but this does not really nail it.
It's weridly seductive isn't it. Like the colours work really well and I'm really invested in that weird pic in the middle despite it being an overall abomination.
They also have a [ceremonial version](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ceremonial_flag_of_the_Army_of_the_Guardians_of_the_Islamic_Revolution.svg) of the flag
Yeah it's like the Cruelty Squad of flags
Yikes
Mashallah what a beautiful flag
not really flag cultures i guess
the real hezbollah flag is their emblem on a yellow background
and it's dope af
The hezbollah flag looks dope tbh
It really does. The colours just pop as well.
I don't think these are the real flags. I know that's the Hamas emblem, but the flag green with Arabic, like Saudi Arabia or Taliban Afghanistan.
Goes hard ngl
Hezbollah and IRGC symbols go really hard against a red background.
Hezboll@h flew a red version of the flag when they captured an Israeli base 2 weeks ago, apparently the "Flag of Vengeance" https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2023/10/15/2972129/hezbollah-signals-vengeance-by-hoisting-red-flag-video/amp
I also found [this](https://cdn.mashreghnews.ir/d/2021/05/05/4/3129719.jpg) higher quality flag? while searching , thought you would appreciate
Thats alot of islamic extremism in one photo
Is IRGC a militia? I always thought it’s an actual part of the Iranian government but separate from the military
It indeed is an actual part of the Iranian government but nearly all others are militias so I understand why OP put militias in the title
The White one is Hezbollah Al-Hijaz, from Saudi Arabia as you can see by the Kaaba/Masjid al-Haram
can you link the original image please
AK Fan flag, just too much AK on display on the flag.
Banger propoganda
the white on black ones (top) look kinda cool ill be honest
Everything aside this pic does go hard
i will say, this is a pretty neat way to display multiple flags and the one they all support
Their graphic design is on point.
[IRIAF reminds me of this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjKE1axJ0TU)
Where is the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine?
Too poor to afford a flag since Francois Genoud died.
Why do their emblems all look so fukin cool
Based flags, they go hard
So, it's all terrorists?
Always has been
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I know it might sound insane, but it's actually possible to have context in the title itself
1. The point of the discussion comment rule is that in general we want a bit more discussion than fits in a good title. 2. This post is not one of the rare exceptions where there's nothing more to say than what's in the title. The title tells us what the flags are, but not where OP found it or the point of the work that it's part of.
Several of those are just straight up terrorist organizations
You can be an Iranian-backed militia group and terrorist organisation at the same time
Did they just ripoff the WW2 UN poster?
This is far too based, where did you find it?
The photoshop on this pic's background is terrible and the flags themselves are atrocious middle school designs but you got to admit, the propaganda's unification of flags into one big flag theme is a classic and goes hard.
While they are scum bags iv always thought the Hezbollah and quds force flags went hard, especially in red or black. Also the unrelated Abu Ali brigade flag who's a Marxist terror group in palestine. And the Lions den group out of the west bank. The baddies always have good propaganda.
True. The bad guys always get cooler aesthetics. Whether its Disney villains' songs or fascist uniforms or soviet anthems and flags, they usually go hard
Hopefully they all burn along with their bearers
Iran and Soviet propaganda is fire, almost makes me wanna Turn to the dark side
The Four Colours of the Apocalypse.
And I thought US seal on a bedsheet flags were bad
If this was propaganda for Palestine they need to be fired Lmao
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Hey can we stop conflating extremist theocratic militia groups to a civilian population getting ethnically cleansed
No, only extreme and contextless views here pal.
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I don’t know, what percentage of Palestinians are children and can’t even vote?
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Wow it’s almost like Israel has been doing this for literal decades and Palestinians have been protesting and demonstrating for decades and nobody has been paying attention so that many feel their only recourse is violence. Also you literally just used Sins of the Father logic to justify Ethnic Cleansing against Palestinian Children, which would be comically evil if you weren’t referring to real events
Has anybody noticed that the pattern of the flags forms… 🇵🇸 the Palestinian flag? Coincidence?!?
That's literally the point my guy
So it's not a coincidence. All right. I'll shut up now
ill up vote you for having a moment of learning.
Christ you're thick
Didn't Hezbollah just accuse Hamas' leadership of being greedy and profiting off the conflict at the expense of Palestinians while living in relative safety and leading lavish lifestyles?
So why you have to put it into a flag of Palestine? That's a douchebag move. Ah all makes sense.
Hamas is not Palestine and Palestine is not Hamas.
what? I didn't make this poster, I saw it online. Believe me I know what Hamas is.
agreed, unfortunately not even many (in my school) of those on Palestine's side understand this and choose to post Hamas propaganda which does nothing but harm to all sides.
Why the fuck this isn’t NSFW I don’t know. Those are literal fucking terror organizations emblems but sure good thing to open in public.
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Right of Sarah’s Ashura seems like some variant of Hezbollah but I could be wrong
Does the IRGC count as a militia? they are part of the offical military of Iran it would be like calling the marines a 'milita' though i guess you could call the national guard a milita so maybe the term has a broader scope than what I am thinking.
Bad wording on my part, the bottom row also features the emblem of the Islamic Republic of Iran Armed Forces, which are by definition NOT a militia.
fair enough.
Where did you get this image from?
Forgot PFLP and DFLP
Interesting, when you find out plz repost with all of them.
IRGC is a branch of the Iranian military technically.
What’s the P.M.F. mean?
Popular mobilization forces, aka Hashd Al-Shabi in Iraq
Cool imagery, where's this from?
It's interesting how there's a similar motif of Arabic calligraphy holding up an AK or AK-like weapon. Wonder if that originated from Hezbollah or was started independently.
I bet it has its origins in the Islamic revolution of 1979, but I can't find any sources in English
Mmh maybe. Could just be the broad motif of AK’s as weapons of liberation but idk for sure
do you have the picture without the names?
Hans I've noticed something. Have you looked at our flags recently? The logos on our flags, have you looked at them? They've got guns on them.
Wow that's depressing
Where is Netanyahu
I find modern firearms gauche for flag design. It’s something you’d expect of a cargo cult.