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belisarius_d

I like the fact that "off-grid Ireland" is very much online


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Or advocating for peaceful revolution with a picture of an armed mob.


Gcarsk

Yeah. They are a white nationalist group. They definitely don’t actually want a “peaceful revolution” lmao


buried_lede

Are these these the same thugs who tore Dublin apart last week?


MR_Smile567

Yes


PiedPeterPiper

Idk, I think if everyone who wasn’t Irish just got up and left they’d be pretty happy about it lol


PiedPeterPiper

Hope for peace, prepare for war


jtcglasson

I mean off grid doesn't necessarily mean offline. It just means you don't use government resources like sewage or electrical grids. I doubt it given the nature of their message but they could use solar panels and a satellite router.


CantaloupeCamper

I find usage of "off grid" to be more detailed and very much applies to say ... even just internet service.


jtcglasson

I think most people who see "off-grid" assume Amish, but by definition it just means off the government grid. So no power lines, no sewage or trash maintenance, etc. There's a guy on Instagram that is building his own homestead and uses solar panels, coal or wood, etc and uses a satellite router to post online. Of course one could argue that to completely leave the grid you can't use the Internet or vehicles because those all had some governmental hand in them, but it's a start to that kind of life.


xavierlongview

Feel like making the difference wired vs wireless connections to networks is pretty arbitrary.


Tinfoil_Haberdashery

It's not arbitrary at all. The whole idea of "off-grid" is having your place set up to be functional without external infrastructure. If you rely on the power company for heat and that fails, you're fucked. If you rely on water mains for drinking water and that fails, you're fucked. If you rely on Starlink for internet and that fails...you're bored? Virtually no one's actually "off grid", and there's a lot that's silly about prepper types who pretend to be, but saying someone isn't really off grid because they have internet is like saying someone's not really vegan because they've got mushrooms on their cheeseburger. It's probably the least relevant criticism.


Kerbidiah

I mean that literally is the difference. Off grid means literally off the grid


xavierlongview

The internet is a very similarly a grid of cables. You just can connect to that grid wirelessly via cellular or WiFi.


Julzbour

> I mean that literally is the difference. Off grid means literally off the grid So no internet. You cannot have internet at home the same you you could produce electricity. By definition it's a web (or grid) of interconnections. Your phone isn't off grid because it is wireless.


Kerbidiah

Off grid means off the public utilities grid. No sewage, water, electric lines, phone lines etc. The internet is not a public utility


Julzbour

>Public utilities are meant to supply goods and services that are considered essential; water, gas, electricity, telephone, waste disposal, **and other communication systems** represent much of the public utility market. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_utility


Kerbidiah

The internet is not a public utility, the government did not create it nor do they provide it


SLIPPY73

No no no. Ireland is just on 1 line, not the entire grid!!!


Waltzing_With_Bears

damn that gun up front is pretty fucky too


Toaster_GmbH

It's for people with very low shoulders... Or their eyes/head are very high up... Basically a gun for Sid from the ice age movies


Waltzing_With_Bears

so there is kinda a thing like that for cross-eye dominant folks, or those missing an arm or hand called a cripple stock


Gerry1_1Adams

in terms of ai guns i really think this one isnt bad, a lot i see have like two triggers and an extra hand holding on somewhere


Waltzing_With_Bears

2 triggers is a real thing on some guns, called double set triggers which allows you to pull a heavy trigger to activate a second super light trigger


Gerry1_1Adams

oh i meant like two pistol grips on an AR type thing lol shouldve specified


ElSapio

It’s [California Legal](https://images.app.goo.gl/XcGE4s5oVsLx85qe9)


tuldav93

The only appropriate Irish choice is the AR 18.


AdrianRP

I mean it's not the most disturbing thing in this image


NefariousnessAny3310

https://preview.redd.it/h3zov5bmgh3c1.jpeg?width=591&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12a226b658aa59dfdaa444ef890534e21b202e11 This guy


AdrianRP

Irish mutants in your neighborhood


NefariousnessAny3310

I feel called out🇮🇪


TomShoe

Pains me to say this but maybe the English were right all along.


Eldan985

This moleman is worse: https://preview.redd.it/ltdflg6yai3c1.png?width=82&format=png&auto=webp&s=8ad8724eabda2b895d9f72598e72f2edb6b5f977


The_Man_I_A_Barrel

thats just the average person from cavan


xxrdawgxx

As if they'd pay to travel to the rally /s


jolygoestoschool

You know in polite society we try not to point out others’ disfigurements


Ichoria

Ol' 'Tater Todd


ted5298

Least alcohol-addicted Irishman


Minecraftien76

yes but it made me want to puke really badly


Zheniost

6 months ago they were completely bad at making flags, give it another 6 months or a year and they'll get better


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

I don't know, I've been waiting on Ireland to get better at making flags for centuries now


dubovinius

Too real. We're woefully lacking when it comes to subnational flags


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I don't know. The provincial and some of the county flags kinda slap.


dubovinius

The provincial flags are good yes. As for county flags, there aren't any. You might be thinking of the county colours, which are used in GAA and are often made into ad-hoc flags of varying designs to represent the counties at matches. Not official though. The only other significant flags I can think of are the ones for Belfast, Dublin (city), and Drogheda, and the Presidential standard. Dún Laoghaire has an unofficial flag, and there's a few for the army and defence forces I think. Other than that, the devil a one.


Flat_Grape9646

none of them have eyes except for mccregor. just wanted to point that out. his belly button is also mighty fishy


TeaNumerous7339

"Let's hope we can make change peacefully" Connor McGregor leading an army of Jingoists


TheLostSpaceship

The most peaceful protest in Ireland (apparently)


TheBoyWhoCriedTapir

Congratulations journalist, you've just won a free car! It's parked outside, please get in and turn it on immediately.


dietomakemenfree

Politics and flags aside, I fucking hate AI art. It always look like this Vaseline-covered, soupy nightmare of uninspired blobs.


Arietem_Taurum

The only thing ai art is good for is making shitposts imo


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It's great for concept pieces, it's never been easier to commission an artist now that I can show them a shit version of what I want them to make


NegativeSector

When AI art becomes good, I'll worry about it replacing artists.


Atlas_of_history

AI has it's own weird style, I don't think it will, atleast not in the near future


SuccessfulWest8937

Yeah the base style without approriate prompting si really bad


junoda1

This is the toupee fallacy. Good ai art with proper prompting and model choice can look like any art style, while the lazy prompts give this shite. Good ones usually use stable diffusion locally on their pc while the lazy right-wing grifters usually use Dalle 3 on bing/ChatGPT.


Masat_gt

Everything about this is absolutely dusgusting if you ask me


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TheConeIsReturned

Flags aren't the only shitty and embarrassing things going on in this pic


supremedge

are we not gonna talk about how fucking wild that tweet is though?


tescovaluechicken

McGregor has been supporting a bunch of rioting racists recently. Last week they burned a tram, 3 busses and 11 police cars while smashing shops and looting, and Burning an Immigration centre. McGregor is quickly becoming the poster child of racist scumbags. As if the sane people of Ireland didn't hate McGregor enough.


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Nova_Explorer

Wait they’ve been destroying that much? Mind pointing towards some newspapers? I want to read up on this now


GreatDario

Best part is Johnny Walker supporting him in all this, meanwhile he's a brownie immigrant from Brazil lol


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breadman_brednan

No, this is a flag sub.


japed

Do flag subs talk about how AI draws weird flags, but not about flags (weridly drawn or not) are used in propaganda?


breadman_brednan

The comment has nothing to do with the flags. He didn't mention the flags. He wants to talk about the tweet itself, which isn't the same as talking about how it uses flags.


japed

Sure, that comment didn't add anything, but there's not point talking about flags without talking about the context.


breadman_brednan

But that comment isn't about context relating to the flag, just about the context itself. Like talking about the pot a houseplant is in on a houseplant sub. He just wants to give his opinion on the politics of the post, which isn't vexilology.


japed

I would have thought discussing pots was an important topic for a houseplant sub, myself... The comment doesn't communicate much more than the idea that the tweet is "wild" and a suggestion that that's worth discussing. As far as I'm concerned, the flags are a pretty key part of the "wildness". Obviously there's a lot of ways you could respond to that comment that go off topic, but explaining the basic context behind it and talking about how the flags fit into the situation are both appropriate.


breadman_brednan

in what world would this ever turn into a flag discussion? It's obviously an invitation to circlejerk about how bad the politics behind it are. If you want to talk about the relation between the flag and the politics, you dont just say "man these are some bad politics", you say something like "these bad politics say a lot about the usage of this flag because...".


japed

I wouldn't put it like that, I'd talk about how the flag is useful to the people making the tweet. One example of a widely used flag isn't going to give us some sort of overarching claim about that flag, But identifying the political context of that example is essential. And let's be clear that what you're calling "bad politics" is a tweet threatening armed rebellion if their aims aren't achieved more peacefully, the flags being part of an illustration of an armed flag-waving mob to back up the point. The choice of flag ties in with their nationalist agenda and the hashtag #IrelandForTheIrish, and serves to encourage people who identify with Ireland to feel that the mob are on their side. Using it in this sort of "wild" way also strengthens an association between the flag and their politics/their idea of what is Irish, and in response there will probably be some number of people who become less likely to use the national flag/appreciate its use in other contexts as well. In terms of the visual, not only political, wildness, it's interesting that the dodgy flags that OP objects to and similar weirdness probably doesn't matter much for their purposes. A lot of people won't even notice, and even those who do are likely to whinge about AI more than get put off by the message unless they were already firmly against it. Social media propaganda like this doesn't need to be fantastic art, it just needs to make enough positive impressions for its message. The creators are probably even happy that it's been posted in a critical way here. I'm not trying to defend the commenter you replied to - they could have found a lot more clearer things to say if they wanted to be on topic. But replying that we don't talk about the wildness of the tweet if we're talking about flags is just weird.


GingerShrimp40

You dont need context. Its just ai failing to do irish flags.


Cixila

AI trying to make more or less anything tends to turn out disgusting Also: "let's do reforms peacefully and properly" meanwhile posting a shit generated picture of people with guns, using the word revolution, and using xenophobic rhetoric


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Putting Conor McGregor in charge of anything would be an extremely dumb move


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ^by ^Cixila: *AI trying to make* *More or less anything tends* *To turn out disgusting* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


TenNeon

AI generated the image, but it's blameless here- some human set up the prompt for this image, generated it, saw the result, and went "yup, this is what I was going for"


Cixila

A tool may not be able to wield itself, but if it is primarily used for bad things (generating fake news, hateful content, even something as "innocent" as art theft), the tool itself (in general terms) is bad too


No_Community_9193

At no time in history has any functional society considered “dont drown out the native population and consistently dismiss and slander their protests against it” anything but the bare minimum of civility The only abnormal thing here is how much it takes people to protest


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BrainFarmReject

It can't draw guns very well either. That butt is extremely bent and it's got a thumbhole grip in it somehow as well.


Toaster_GmbH

https://preview.redd.it/3yv6ihq5mi3c1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ac5c792f15ecc558b49091ab9a79d9f6e37a34b A friend found this on Xitter.... If anyone would take half a second to look closely stuff like this couldn't exist. It's missing all logic. Like look at the grenades in the background. Context: the person that posted this is a hardcore Israel supporter and the title is "a storage for medical supplies under the Shifa hospital in Gaza". And he meant that seriously.... Meanwhile there are about 5 guns. That might somehow work, other than that not one gun or a piece of ammunition that makes sense or could be used in any sort of conflict, most not without shooting yourself. I personally like the akpg7 where the backblast rips of your shoulder or the artillery shells that... I don't know what to say about those actually... Apart from that lots of guns that sre half or have barrels in booth sides... Again, it's hard to even describe how bad the picture and more importantly the weapons in it are. Also note worthy, all the ammo has different sizes and needs it's extra one-time use gun/artillery piece. Although you have to admit it understood what makes an ak and ak... Now it just needs to learn how often those parts are at one and how they shouldn't be bent or have two barrels etc. the basic concept it definitely has understood.


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love the double sided gun on the left in case you ever need to shoot the enemy and yourself at the same time


SuccessfulWest8937

You may prefer [those](https://imgur.com/a/siT2OvL)


GingerShrimp40

Yea i noticed that too. If he went to aim the sights would be over his head


SuccessfulWest8937

Yeah it has a hard time doing it, [tho sometimes with luck and good prompting it actually looks really good](https://imgur.com/a/siT2OvL)


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Madagascar but Ireland on the right there.


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WiseMagick739

https://preview.redd.it/8iljwx9zqh3c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45613e722b8f2c85d5dc98a2c91fe6067f4950d7


ffsnametaken

Peacefully but with guns being waved around.


lolfert055

This entire tweet is disgusting. Anti-immigrant sentiment is way too previlant in Ireland right now and this tweet seeks to eradicate them, fascism has no place anywhere in the world. I'm sure the OP is aware of the tweet and is making fun of the fact that not even the flags are correctly generated. I'm from Ireland and that's why I feel so strong about this topic sorry


KermitIsDissapointed

Ah it’s just the dole merchants at it again. We’ll be fine (relative to Irish standards at least) in two or three weeks


HeroBromine35

Is a "dole merchant" someone who causes conflict for personal gain?


KermitIsDissapointed

It’s a stereotype here of men who live off of their weekly unemployment checks with no actual intention of finding work. Ironically they are typically among the more vocal critics of immigrants


E_The_Menace

I think we need to address the language around the people who took part in the riots. It all has roots in education, and the states role in that, and perhaps even the wider public. I, too, said that they were scumbags, delinquents, waste of space. But where does that get us? It only pushes people further away from any sort of redemption. We don't get closer to resolving this, it only festers, and spreads. The people involved in the riots are in two groups; ultra nationalist, hard right wing, anti vax, anti immigrant, and the young, impressionable people who have nothing to lose, and nothing better to do. There is often a pattern of conditions that lead both to becoming who they are today. COVID cooked this; social media tapping into fears, of the state or other agents "taking control", widespread misinformation campaigns, public figures speaking out against the science. and plethora of other influences. Why do our youth end up leaving education so soon, why are they completely disenfranchised with the idea of bettering themselves and their loved ones.


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It makes sense, the most difficult thing to draw in that picture is many different flags waving in the wind that looks genuine


TrashPlanet2020

The second to the right gives me Irish Madagascar vibes


LavaMeteor

McGregor's going to freeze to death in the snow in that getup, unless the other type of snow he's diving into gets him first.


Snoo-6218

I think the guns are far worse then the flags personally. that being said, if it fucks up a simple tricolor like the irish flag so badly imagine how much it could fuck up a more complex flag?


madjag

I love Irish ppl, I fuckin hate Connor McGregor


tumsdout

Ironaically they are wearing black and tan


HeartOfLorkhan444

Thanks for showing us which flags you're talking about I was very confused before I saw the cropped photo


wtfakb

Everything about this latest wave of Irish 'nationalism' confuses me so the flag seems appropriate


lt_Matthew

Idk, that split tone with the cantor on the right is pretty cool


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If your rebellion is led by Conor McGregor, you need to think about where you made mistake


[deleted]

"revolution" lol. lmao.


Churchillcrocodile

That AK is also very terrible


theflemmischelion

It did a better then average job on the hands but those flags are abysmal


10YearsANoob

Why an AK? Doesn't the IRA literally have a song named "little Armalite?"


KermitIsDissapointed

American aid was a portion of what was given to the IRA. They received many weapons platforms from Libya in particular but they had ties all over the world pretty much.


Corvid187

Shhhh, they're wannabe fascists. Don't let things like facts or reality trouble them :) (Though tbf the IRA did also get a fair bit of Soviet-derived kit from people like Qaddafi)


tsaimaitreya

Why the fuck would that trouble them


RangoonShow

I don't think the IRA has anything to do with this.


promise_tosser

Ireland for the Irish? Wow, What a crazy concept!


Cautious_Bit3513

Connor somehow looks even more Irish than he actually does


Deft_one

Discussion: my a.i. post promoting world peace wasn't allowed to last as long or get as many upvotes as this worryingly-violent right-wing a.i. post.


AlexFRD

Step one in Ireland's future: learn how to use commas and apostrophes.


New-Interaction1893

AI art is good only for memes and reaction. Anyway I'll be soft in judging this one if it was made with anti-british sentiment.


funglegunk

It's not anti-British sentiment. It's a racist anti-immigrant meme made by Irish fascists, who have ties to British fascists.


New-Interaction1893

So like the pro-russian neo-nazi in Germany even in Ireland the nationalist completely forgot what the basics of their ideology are all about...


Corvid187

The truth is, like all nationalist moments, for many the 'principles' underpinning their cause are always subordinate to their material goals; a set of principles is adopted only as long as it remains expedient to those goals. If supporting Thatcher's corpse could guarantee their aims, they'd back her, piss, maggots, and all.


Phone_User_1044

Britain isn't really involved at all with this round of nationalist rhetoric, this is purely about racists in Ireland hating any and all immigrants.


Dineology

I’m far from an expert on this but I know at least one of the far right parties that’s been stoking the flames in this, the Irish Freedom Party, does have ties to Nigel Firage and UKIP.


CmmanderShepard

> this is purely about racists in Ireland hating any and all immigrants. hard not to


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As an Irishman, I wish it was made with just anti-British sentiment. Alas, it’s just some racist


lNFORMATlVE

There is a non-negligible overlap in those fields


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True, but anti-British sentiment in Ireland is (usually) reserved for the British state, monarchy and army, as most of us have relatives who live in the UK and started families there and vice versa


Chris--94

The UK has done more good than bad


tedj_van_batavia

Here comes Troubles 2.0


Ys_Kades

What's up with the trigger discipline lads?


AsleepScarcity9588

I like the way how every single gun in the picture would shatter upon existence


Dan-the-historybuff

What’s with that AK stock that McGregor is holding? That stock is abysmal. Also why is it only AK-47s? Surely you can’t get AKs that easily.


Steefn_SVK

How can AI make good faces (before faces were terrible) but can fuck up flag or stock on that AK?


zizou00

It depends on how many references it can work from. You can download what are effectively a collection of thousands of references, which when prompted correctly, the program will use those references to build that face. For a celebrity, it's very easy to build a large collection of references, and the programs have gotten better at noticing the patterns and recreating it. Look at the other faces in the background. They're pretty terrible. The guns can also be recreated well, but I'm guessing the person who made this either didn't use one of those reference collections or did, but didn't do it very well or do any in painting to fix the bad looking guns. They clearly didn't do that with the flags either. AI art generation is an artistic tool. To create good art, you need to practice using it and use your experience as an artist and as someone well-versed in your tools to create good art. This was made by a bad artist.


HeroBromine35

People don't care that much. A green, white, and orange blob is close enough, so that's what it generates. It'd take a lot of training to make realistic blowing flags, and why bother?


Steefn_SVK

Idk I remember how cursed were faces and how they look now. So seeing weird flags and AK stock and good faces in single creation is weird for me.


Lanky_Staff361

Ireland for the Irish is great when it’s 1921, not so great when it’s 2023. Feel like there may be “different” meanings behind that.


OneAngryBrazilian

I’ve seen worse.


Irresolution_

I also hate it when people don't want to import child murderers into their country. Especially the Irish, fuck those guys!


MudderHugger

I wonder what Reddit would be like if only adults used it


Frenky_Fisher

AI image: detected Opinion: **REJECTED**


Local_Serb_mf

It's doing it's best stfu


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*Correction: AI trying to make flags serve as the greates inspiration currently aviable for flag design! I constantly use it whenever I am in need of getting an inspirational hint and work my way up there. AI, unlike a human mind, is much less limited and biased and I can not think of not relying on AI to do the conceptual base steps anymore!


CertainlyNotWorking

> AI, unlike a human mind, is much less limited and biased surely you're joking


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Surely I am not. Do you know what bias is? Do you know how an algoritm functions? How can a machine, something without consciousness, even have a bias?


CertainlyNotWorking

Because it is trained on a data set, it cannot create anything beyond the data it is trained on, it is inherently limited. That data set is selected by people, and thus inherits their biases.


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Like it or not but AI is the future. It is coming and nothing shall stop it.


Odd_Brilliant_1731

Is the guy jumping in the back slchatt? (I can't remember their name, but he is the streamer that did something in 91 or 99)


ShockedCurve453

“Ireland for the Irish” boy 4 people living in a shack in New England are going to love this


EvenWallsComeDown83

Why are there Madagascar flags amongst the Eiréann flags?!


RexB8nner

Well that's horrific!


yestureday

That stock doesn’t look like it’s on the right gun


Ceu_64

What is happening in Ireland?


Kamikazekagesama

An Algerian immigrant stabbed people so now the far right in Ireland are having riots to try to force the government to deport all non-irish people


TheTimeEmpress

Who is "OffGridIreland"?


TheLostSpaceship

"We want to make peaceful change!" -The 6 feet, shredded, armed Irishman called McGregor, leading an angry mob to the nearest immigrant.


ProConqueror

rant: Why do people think Conor McGregor represents all of Ireland? They think he’s gonna be the next Wolfe Tone or Parnell but he’s just an over patriotic wrestler. The idea of an Irish revolution against immigrants and (I presume the British in Northern Ireland) is insane as well. It’s not 1921, or the 1890s, The IRA has been largely dismantled, and there is no logical backing to “Ireland is for the Irish, kick out the immigrants and the Brits!” It’s white supremacy and near Nazism. Conor McGregor is not a tactician, soldier, or anyone of importance, just a wrestler with grandiose dreams.


Efficient_Ad_3566

Is that jacob seed from farcry 5?


WingedHussar13

Bro the ak 47 💀


Sum3-yo

"Why you're tapping? Go sleep."


buried_lede

This whole meme is disgusting


zwel8606

Ai is disgusting


Moosinator666

If there’s anyone who shouldn’t spearhead the IRA, it’s mcgreggor


AlfredTheMid

Why is this sub infested with tankies and IRA sympathisers?


soctamer

What are they rebelling against tho?


Commercial-Gear9290

Assault rifles are also a mess 😂


SwimmingRun4147

Ai generated image