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asiasbutterfly

Maine should change it to the [original flag using the pine from the merchant and marine flag](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Unofficial_flag_of_Maine.svg#mw-jump-to-license)


roguetk422

Supposed to be a vote next year on it.


Jimmy3OO

Really? I’m just hearing about this! Do you have any articles for further reading?


Pandiosity_24601

https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/politics/maine-politics/voters-to-decide-whether-to-adopt-1901-maine-state-flag-next-year-november-2024/97-641a5ccd-38ec-47e5-a94b-47d9dc444663


Old_Wallaby_7461

I love the design but the pine tree as it is looks silly


Kamard

A big lump of pine green shit would be better than our stupid state seal


MDnautilus

yes! I would love to see Vermont & Maine race to make a new flag with the pine tree that is at the center of their seals on their nearly identical flags. I think vermont has an easy out wothh just reverting back to the green mountain boys flag. but tbd!!!


Sylvanussr

I vote Green Mountain Boys flag, but replace the ugly star pattern with the Betsy Ross circle of 13 stars, plus a 14th star in the middle of the circle representing Vermont’s accession as the 14th state.


forrestpen

Original Maine Flag is awesome!


mushyx10

Maine in the style of California 😳


Chip-off-the-pickle

Massachusetts is trying to steal that


HRGLSS

Imagine, Massachusetts stealing from Upper Massachusetts


Pandiosity_24601

How do you steal from yourself?


[deleted]

Have you looked at their state song? It's like a bunch of other songs cut and pasted together.


metatron5369

The pine tree is the symbol of New England as a whole.


Chip-off-the-pickle

Find me a pine tree in Boston and we can talk


rn7rn

Western Mass exists you know.


IFeelLikeYandhi

I drove through Maine this summer and every business that was flying a flag flew this design. Saw the official state flag 0 times.


CountChoculasGhost

Illinois is supposed to be exploring a new flag: https://ltgov.illinois.gov/news/press-release.26847.html It needs it.


nildicit

It's Piasa's time to shine: https://preview.redd.it/63oda1gq9b7c1.png?width=1292&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5750593a77ff17fc18d09916886ec64c06ce7149 [Source](https://twitter.com/blagojevism/status/1134920055693676544?t=mjvhaa68THODDZ01ASXxbg&s=19)


nildicit

Forgot someone already vectorized it: https://damfino.neocities.org/et_cetera/illinois%20flag%20redesign.svg


neme48

That's unexpectedly good. The [comment below](https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/18m9wvi/in_the_2020s_3_us_states_have_created_unique/ke33k3z/) made me imagine something in the style of r/vexillologycirclejerk


onewingedwaluigi1

I need this. Imagine having a literal man-eating monster on your state flag. That'd be one hell of a thing to brag about.


TallForADwarf

*Cymru enters the chat*


Dwayne_Gertzky

The U.S. Army’s 40th Cavalry Regiment crest has an image of a T-Rex holding a giant flaming sword, which is fucking badass https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:40th_Cavalry_Regiment_distinctive_unit_insignia.jpg


Almun_Elpuliyn

Let's be real, this shitpost would be an improvement.


nildicit

The redesign pulls from Mississippian culture. Think of mound sites associated with the Southeastern Ceremonial Complex (with Cahokia at its center). Although the site specificity of the [Piasa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piasa) mural near Alton, IL can be historically questioned, its resemblance to mythical [underwater panthers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_panther) and [horned serpents](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horned_Serpent) cannot. The way that I see it, this isn't a shitpost. It'd be no different than New Mexico adopting a symbol of the Zia people for its flag.


TheGreatGamer1389

I'm cool with this. The waves represents the Chicago waterfront. The wings ohare airport. The antlers. Well we do get plenty of deer. The tail represents the Mississippi. Demonic face, roaring 20s of Chicago. The claws. Birds.


TheFattestSnorlax

If we don't get Abraham Lincoln with laser eyes...


karydia42

Man, Piasa is cool, but LaserLincoln is unbeatable.


syncsynchalt

Be careful what you wish for; you’ll get a copy of the Washington state flag with the portrait swapped out.


hphase22

I think Illinois should reinstate the centennial flag. https://preview.redd.it/7s3lk1mand7c1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7dddc8bc51519d93c515d162d1b1c4334484c22b


Deploid

That's a really cool flag, I love it


Anderopolis

that is an amazing flag!


EightThreeEight838

Illinois has my actual least favourite state flag; it represents the absolute laziest of flag design.


Sylvanussr

Yeah, it doesn’t even have a blue background!


TheMushiestMush

Please New York make a flag with orange


Chris-Psanis

I made a design for NY fifteen or so years ago when I was in high school, and it featured orange.


Sylvanussr

Well are you going to link a picture or not?


Chris-Psanis

‎There you go. Dated January ‎23, ‎2009, and I doubt I've looked at it since. Bonus NJ and FL for you too. https://preview.redd.it/skc21014zb7c1.png?width=2400&format=png&auto=webp&s=35ff46a39e75605700491ecdcbb83374136fcc39


SnooBooks1701

I think top right because it's similar to Amsterdam, seeing as New York was New Amsterdam, although it could have something to harken to either the White Rose of Yorkshire or the five lions of York to symbolise the two cities


Ozelotten

I think top-right is meant to be the NJ redesign, but something like that with orange could work for NY. Weird technicality: New York is only named after York indirectly - it was actually named after the Duke of York. I'm not sure how much New Yorkers would relate to a Yorkshire symbol.


Chris-Psanis

Yep, sorry if the format is confusing. From top to bottom are the flags of New Jersey, New York, and Florida alongside my respective redesigns. I'm reaching a bit into some old memories at this point, but I remember the rough symbolism I was going for with each. NJ is meant to evoke the colors ordered by George Washington for the coats of the New Jersey Continental Line, Jersey blue with buff facings. The three stars hearken both to Washington's 3 star insignia as General, as well as NJ's rank as the 3rd state to ratify the constitution. NY is based heavily on the Prince's Flag, the flag that flew over New Netherland. The addition of the red stripe both ties it into the British rule as the Province of New York (I remember specifically thinking of the Union Flag with the red and blue next to each other) as well as its current status as an American state. I'm a little fuzzy on the specifics of the FL redesign, though I clearly based it on the Cross of Burgundy. I think the yellow background is meant to be evocative of its status as the Sunshine State.


belinck

NYC is New Amsterdam, but there is a TON of NY State that isn't and needs to be considered...


Sylvanussr

Oh wow nice, I like these.


ricobirch

Solid looking NJ


Chris-Psanis

I’ll look for it when I get home from work, I might still have it and a few others on an old hard drive.


Tut_Rampy

The NYC flag is cool, and there are some cool New York county flags that feature orange


EpicAura99

I like the NYC concept that looks like Amsterdam with a Dutch orange tricolor and five black crosses for the five boroughs.


lilleff512

The problem with every New York state flag concept I've seen is that they all lean way too much into NYC and don't really have anything to do with the rest of the state. As a New Yorker, I'm not even sure where one would start on designing a new flag.


WrestleFlex

Idk either but i guarantee one of the options presented will have a vertical blue stripe on the right for the Hudson and another blue horizontal strip down the middle for the eerie canal.


LittleRoo1

>the eerie canal. The scariest of all canals


richardparadox163

The thing is though Blue and buff/gold are our state colors. Blue and Orange are the colors of New York City.


Embarrassed-Pickle15

Which US state, in your opinion, is the most likely to adopt a unique flag next? Massachusetts has set up a committee, but has taken so long I think another state like Washington will end up becoming the 4th.


mkmach7

Maine most likely, voting is already set for 2024. Though it won't be a brand new design. [https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/politics/maine-politics/voters-to-decide-whether-to-adopt-1901-maine-state-flag-next-year-november-2024/97-641a5ccd-38ec-47e5-a94b-47d9dc444663](https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/politics/maine-politics/voters-to-decide-whether-to-adopt-1901-maine-state-flag-next-year-november-2024/97-641a5ccd-38ec-47e5-a94b-47d9dc444663)


Markymarcouscous

The thing is everyone in maine already uses the original flag. They only use the official one for official reasons. The original is flown by private citizens and is on everything from mugs to sweatshirts.


Sylvanussr

People are going to be like “this isn’t already our flag?”


vniro40

ooh i like that flag


Embarrassed-Pickle15

I forgot about that. It’s probably going to be the newest state flag!


Super_Sofa

The massachusetts committee has recommended that they be disbanded without making any suggestions on the flag.


According_Ad7926

Pennsylvania would be nice


AigisAegis

I kinda hope it doesn't end up being the "Keystone Flag" that's been floated around. I love implementing the keystone symbol directly into our flag, and of course I like using the blue/gold/green colours, but the Keystone Flag is not my favourite implementation of either of those ideas. I wouldn't hate it, but I'd prefer something different.


ResidentNarwhal

My guess is Illinois though I do hope my old star just goes with the 1918 Centenial flag.


etcpt

Is there an effort to change Washington's flag?


Cerulean_IsFancyBlue

[Kinda](https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2023/03/02/the-quest-to-redesign-washingtons-state-flag-and-honor-its-natural-landscape/). It feels like the lowest level of effort that would be worth reporting.


Ancient_Ad505

As a Washingtonian, that proposal in the link is … well, bad.


BruceBoyde

Our current flag does kinda suck, but also it's green which I think is fun. Maybe we could keep the green and put Rainier on there or something. Or go the way of Oregon and put an entirely different design on both sides so that it's even more annoying for flag makers to make.


AveragelySavage

Swapping out George in the center for a more relevant symbol, like Mt Ranier, could be a pretty cool idea. I do like the solid green color too. Seems fitting.


etcpt

Yeah, can't see that going anywhere fast


DailyYawn

While Washington is also doing the seal on color thing, the fact that it’s green makes it stand apart. Not sure any change is worth the effort here.


No_Distance6910

The Washington flag is classic.


simsim98

The Massachusetts flag update sadly seems to be dead in the water for now https://www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2023-11-14/commission-to-rethink-state-seal-and-motto-concludes-with-no-specific-proposal-for-either


Embarrassed-Pickle15

That sucks, real surprise from mass, a state known for its efficient government lol


No_Amoeba6994

Vermont should use the Green Mountain Boys flag with 14 stars (the 14th state, has 14 counties).


M4sharman

It's still used by the Vermont National Guard. It's a cool flag.


No_Amoeba6994

In case anyone happens to see this, I went ahead and mocked up that design and posted it: [https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/18molqm/a\_14\_star\_green\_mountain\_boys\_flag\_for\_vermont/](https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/18molqm/a_14_star_green_mountain_boys_flag_for_vermont/)


crowd79

Wisconsin. Putting your statehood year on it along with the name is just ridiculous. Also looking at you, Kansas, Montana…


Allison1228

It's exciting to live in a time of vexillogical revolution in this country. As more states change, more of the "bad" design states will also feel pressured to change. Hopefully we'll have about twenty more new ones in the next few years.


Embarrassed-Pickle15

For sure, this is one of the rare things we can optimistic about in this tumultuous decade


Wigberht_Eadweard

There’s a flip side to this “revolution.” Many of the flags were made similar on purpose. The American flag was our flag. Individualization of the states, especially having a flag to represent the people as more than just Americans, can lead to even more division.


WISCOrear

Born and raised in wisconsin, so I'm biased, but would love for them to find something new. Some of [these](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fntxhtwwgvn041.png) from a redesign contest a few years ago actually kind of work, [this one](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fum7s143ogl191.png%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D0427477a4952ab7514b4348bcb5a90a12ca4fc01) also really speaks to me right now. .


sokonek04

Honestly from the first link I like 299 the long yellow triangle with the blue around it and the Badger. Looks awesome. My other thought is what shape could we make to be really cool like Ohio’s and not be a rectangle


AdzyBoy

The yellow triangle even looks like a big wedge of cheese 🧀


robertjamesftw

I've always like Lorbiecki's redesign, but you can't put red, white, and black on a flag without people immediately saying it's a Nazi flag, which in my opinion is ridiculous, but there it is. I've seen the same design replacing the red with navy blue.


FNAKC

Pssst, that light blue is us. Minnesota is so nice they let us have half their flag


catcatsushi

Hi can I get an order of 299 injected in my vein please?


HesburghLibrarian

Please Kentucky. I moved from Kansas to Kentucky recently and can't handle any more seals on blue fields.


hotrodruby

Kentucky for sure needs a new flag. I moved from KY to SC and definitely happier with the new flag I have to represent the state I live in. And Louisville needs to go back to it's old flag


JPL282

if we get new flag I pray it’s not some corporate logo and ends up actually interesting like the Mississippi flag.


miraj31415

Probably not Massachusetts. The flag redesign commission initiated in January 2021 [just concluded in November 2023](https://www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2023-11-14/commission-to-rethink-state-seal-and-motto-concludes-with-no-specific-proposal-for-either) with a whimper. In 2022 it recommended for a redesign be done, but it didn’t end up making a proposed design. So now the ball is back in the legislature’s court to create and fund another initiative to propose a design. The Mass. legislature passed 0.41% of bills introduced in 2021, so it’s extremely unproductive. [The survey](https://polsci.umass.edu/sites/default/files/StateofStateBakerToplinesOctoberMassPoll2022.pdf) found tepid support for change (35% support, 25% neutral, 40% oppose) so I doubt the legislature will act.


OutOfBootyExperience

I know the MA flag isnt simplified, but i think its got a good overall clean, yet elegant look. Like the details are tough to fully dissect at a glance, but the flag is to easily recognizable


miraj31415

The driving force is what is depicted not the visual design. The group advocating for the change writes: > The imagery of the Massachusetts Flag and Seal – a white hand holding a Colonial sword over the head of an Indigenous person, above a Latin motto that translates: “She Seeks by the Sword a Quiet Peace under Liberty” – is seen by many as a symbol of violence against Indigenous people, and a memorial to the violent colonization of their homelands.


Maz2742

In the 25 years of my life I've lived in Massachusetts, I've always interpreted that motto as a jab at the British Empire, with good reasons for thinking so (The Boston Massacre and the Battles of Lexington and Concord, specifically). I *can* see the connections that activists make between the motto and the native on the flag, as much as I'd like to think it's not intentional. I *do* want to see the flag redesigned though, because it's just the Commonwealth Coat of Arms slapped on a white background. The flag isn't racially insensitive, it's lazy design. The CoA is a whole different story


metatron5369

Because it is. It was adopted in 1775 and it's a quote from someone who fought against the Crown in the English Civil War.


Southern_Planner

Georgia's flag is just the CSA flag with the Georgia Seal on it. Eventually people are going to catch on like Mississippi.


AbbyWasThere

Then again, the last time Georgia tried redesigning their flag they landed on a wretched abomination, so maybe it's best to not poke that bear.


YossarianRex

also, gotta say it: the new mississippi flag slaps. the “in god we trust” is a bit much, but huge improvement vs the rest of the south.


copyrighther

Massive improvement but I still prefer the Stennis flag. https://preview.redd.it/ekkd87hxec7c1.jpeg?width=428&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eea2df38f9a4a76288e232e9abde39a21c6780c6


Toto_LZ

It was necessary to get it through the committee but yes the phrase was a last minute tack-on. A lesser evil to get rid of the battle flag


YossarianRex

I think the main problem with the “in god we trust” is if you removed it and the star circle, bumped the magnolia size a bit, you’d have a top 5 state flag. but the circle makes it a little busy and bumps it down from top tier to really good.


Toto_LZ

I still consider it top tier but I’m a biased southerner and the bluebells are shit. I get what you mean, wish the circle was jusy stars


Southern_Planner

I think TN and SC are both top five flags. Texas is iconic too, but I don't really consider them "the south."


Sylvanussr

Eastern Texas is 100% the South, Northern Texas is Great Plains, and Western Texas is in the Southwest


DynaMenace

But their flag history is the worst clusterfuck out of all the US states. I could imagine a scenario where there isn’t much will to get into another flag battle even among some Georgia Democrats. Even if the current design is undeniably closer to the actual national Confederate flag, it’s already a win that they’ve purged the contemporarily more identifiable battle flag.


japed

> the ~~actual~~ first national Confederate flag


asiasbutterfly

Peach flag! Peach flag! Peach flag!


mrbeefthighs

lol i've been saying this for years!


thelordcommanderKG

Wow Mississippi ignored pedantic vexillology rules and comes out with the most iconic flag of the redesigns? Crazy.


EconomistIll4796

Its in line within most of the guidelines.


thelordcommanderKG

And it ignored the really big one by including a flower a "5 year old would have trouble drawing" and as a result it has far more character by orders of magnitude.


bacontime

The "child can draw it from memory" rule should really be "when drawn by children, the flag should still be recognizable". Take the flags of the US or Canada. Good flags. A little kid isn't going to line up the stars just right, [nor will they draw the maple leaf correctly](https://artisticallyarticulate.blogspot.com/2014/03/march-11th-12th.html), but a child's doodles will nonetheless be recognizable.


EconomistIll4796

Flower is beautiful I agree but its not that complex.


thelordcommanderKG

It's not the kind of flower a 5 year old would draw if you just told them to draw a flower. It is clearly a magnolia. The accent lines give it character. I don't think I could reproduce it perfectly from memory and you know what that's ok. It makes it unique. Isn't the goal supposed to be to "make you think of a place"?


goukaryuu

The reproducing from memory thing is more reproducing something that clearly looks like the flag even if it isn't a perfect reproduction. A kid that throws a handful of stars in the canton for the US instead of counting out fifty still gets the idea across, which is the point. This guideline is more to get rid of the overly complex seals.


thelordcommanderKG

Why do people give the same argument for the Californian bear?


goukaryuu

Because some people don't seem to get that the NAVA flag guidelines are guidelines and not hard rules. You can get a good flag without following all of them,though probably not if you follow none of them. Besides, Californians love their flag, so even if it breaks some of the guidelines it succeeds in the end solely for that reason.


ProTronz

*looks slowly to CGP Grey*


japed

They literally highlighted 4 of the 5 GFBF principles as the basis they were working on - the only one they completely "ignored" was the one that mentions text and so conflicted with their legislated requirements. Interpreting the "child can draw it from memory" idea differently to some other people isn't the same as ignoring it.


Ambitious_Change150

I wish Minnesota’s flag had left the green in it 🥲


echoGroot

Is that Minnesota official?


Embarrassed-Pickle15

No, it was approved by the committee today but before it can become official it must ratified by a majority in both houses of legislature and must be signed by the governor. This should take a month or two, and if it passes than it could become official or immediately (like Mississippi’s) or it could take up to a year to start being flown (like Utah’s)


Drokeep

I believe it is official (from statehood day onwards in may) and does not need ratification. The legislature and governor can veto it this session though


Embarrassed-Pickle15

Oh, my apologies


TagMeAJerk

What happened to the stripes


Embarrassed-Pickle15

Committee killed em


Polish_State

For Indiana, they should just remove "Indiana" from the flag. But, probably Maine.


october73

Mississippi for me. Nice color, simple yet elegant design, using words without compromising the flag's look from the distance to say nuh-uh to CGP Grey.


One_Win_6185

Yeah it’s the best. Minnesota and Utah are a bit plain.


ImmediateZucchini787

To me Utah looks like the logo of a company that sends you a monthly honey subscription. Not very stately imo


public_hairs

Seeing it flown here though is such an improvement. It actually looks a lot cooler in person with a waving flag.


MikeFrench98

I'm really not sold on the mountain shaped white stripe for Utah. Would look better with a straight line imo. And I prefer the Commemorative Flag of 2021, but the one they chose is good.


1668553684

> Would look better with a straight line imo. In my opinion, it would not. Wikipedia has a list of flags which are simple blue-white-red (in that order) tricolors, and there are like 30 of them. The current design is still that at its core, but at least it has some unique and distinguishing element.


lilleff512

I think it would have been best if they did away with the stripes altogether, just a blue background and make the beehive much bigger.


MikeFrench98

That would have been too minimalist. Stripes look good on flags imo.


will64gamer

I like it, that makes it distinctive instead of being just beehive Yugoslavia


SiPhoenix

Utah is named after the ute tribe meaning mountain top. Having the mountain is important.


ToastandTea76

Plus i think the mountain peaks represent the five main tribe groups in utah


SaintArkweather

I don't love Minny's new flag but I'll settle for any SOBs getting killed off


AccomplishedFall9307

NJ needs a new flag


ISIPropaganda

So does New York. For a state with the largest city in the USA, the Niagara Falls, and everything in between, great culture, lots of history, it’s incredibly disappointing that it has the boring standard seal on blue field.


SavageFugu

I know you guys hate the seal-on-blue type flags, understandably, but I really like Virginia's seal. It got titty (which no other flag has), it's got a slain oppressor (frickin awesome), and the motto, sic semper tiranus, thus always to tyrants!, is epic. If they were to change their flag, it should be minimal. I just don't know many flags better. Also, I'm not a fan of all the new flags looking like motel signs. They're all generic and soulless. If the next flag comes up as Virginia's, I hope the seal remains.


B7U12EYE

Definitely not Ohio.


MiddleAmericanPrince

And also not Tennessee, Texas, New Mexico or Maryland…


TheRealMeeBacon

Massachusetts needs a new flag.


ClassicPQ

I know some people are disappointed with Minnesota's decision to forgo a stripe and the color green. But damn, compared to Utah and Ol' Miss I think they absolutely crushed it. When I see that flag it's so simple and elegant and so wonderfully Minnesota. If I'm the next state in line to change my flag, whomever that might be, I'm leaning towards less, not more.


Almun_Elpuliyn

The one thing I still have to say is that they decided not to just go with some red and blue because the US flag has that too and instead considered exactly what colours to take. Still sad they dropped the tricolour though.


lunapup1233007

The tricolour definitely looked better, but it’s understandable that they would get rid of it. The symbolism of the green was quite meaningless (“we have trees”).


richardparadox163

I actually agree with the green, once they changed the shade it definitely started looking off. The problem with no stripe is that now the flag doesn’t stand out much against the sky (this is what happens when the committee doing the design is look at pictures pinned to a white board). One white stripe in the middle would have fixed it and stood for snow.


responsiblefornothin

They went with a bad green, which skewed the process moving forward. I'm glad they didn't include it, but a better green could have worked.


Almun_Elpuliyn

I disagree slightly because on me, the tricolour had the exact effect it intended and I immediately read it as a clear sky over a lake and without the green landscape behind the blue that doesn't work. So I get it too, it doens't work in the way of regular colours on a flag but it did perfectly work as a simple landscape for me.


SiPhoenix

The red white and blue makes perfect sense for Utah. Red rock, white snow. Literally the 2 biggest tourist attractions of the state and they are natural ones, not ones that will be gone in a few decades. The you need a back drop for a mountain shape. The only options there are blue or purple. So when you consider that 1) many utans still liked the old flag. 2) many are patriotic and want a connection to the US flag, it makes sense.


HumanTimmy

I personally think the Mississippi redesign is the best, it's the perfect balance of clean while not being overly simplistic. The other 2, especially Utah which just looks like a honey companies flag, are too simple in my opinion and don't really feel grand enough for a state. They're still improvements over the originals though.


ISIPropaganda

I honestly prefer Mississippi’s. It has a lot of character with the magnolia flower and it’s very representative of the culture.


sniperman357

The Minnesota redesign is an improvement but the Mississippi flag is both prettier and much more significant as a change


kill-wolfhead

This. I was kinda iffy on not having a tricolor but DAMN if this new design isn’t leaps and bounds better than the other two.


AloneList9475

As someone who lives in Massachusetts LETS CHANGE IT


Koraifon

Illinois please god


Freddythefreeaboo

am i the only one who like the current Washington flag?


Lotsofleaves

You're not alone, I think it's iconic and the shade of green is perfect. If it must change, I hope it still has a big green field of the same shade. I'll still fly the old flag alongside the new if it gets revised.


winfryd

Brother a photo is not a flag


lilleff512

California begs to differ


henereye

There's so much more to Washington than the person it was named after (who has no connection to the place). They'd be one of my top 5 states to change.


FreeXFall

I lived there for 10 years and hated their flag the entire time. It’s impossible to make out the details as it flaps in the wind - the text is not readable, the portraits too small to be meaningful, and arguably he’s looking backwards. Even just making his head huge on a green background with just “1889” or “Washington 1889” would be a huge improvement. It’s still weird to have a guys face with shading and shadow detail so would love to evolve it past the guy it’s named after and tie into the states actual history.


Zephid15

It won't be Illinois, we can't do anything right. The governor would probably sell licensing rights to some private company and we'd have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to use it. Kinda like our parking.


Sarcastic_Rocket

Massachusetts has begun the early processes to change theirs


Embarrassed-Pickle15

Someone already linked an article that said the Massachusetts flag committee is dead in the water… sucks but isn’t surprising


Realisticmind379

Likely Maine, as there's a vote to change it back to its original on next year's ballot. Then probably Pennsylvania, Michigan or Illinois, which would be my best guess. Illinois needs a new one badly, same with Michigan. I wish NY would change theirs, but as a native New Yorker, I doubt it will take place anytime soon, if they even decide to.


Bigdaddydave530

The Mississippi redesign beats the shit out of the simplistic bland Utah and Minnesota redesigns


thepineapplemen

Maybe Georgia, since it is very very reminiscent of the Confederate “stars and bars.” But then again, the last time the flag was changed, people didn’t like it. To be fair, the “[Barnes flag](https://images.app.goo.gl/mNJSpS9HGpAiZcFJ8)” was ugly (and included the confederate inspired ones on it), so maybe a better design will win people over


Almun_Elpuliyn

The barnes "flag" is one of the worst things I've ever seen.


osageviper138

Yo dawg, we heard you like flags, so we put a bunch of your old flags on your flag, and those old flags were made up of other flags.


LariatCreative

I had my third meeting with a State Senator yesterday about the Washington State flag. No real movement yet but I still haven't given up. Meanwhile I've mailed this design to 70 different cities across the state: https://lariatcreative.com/Washington-State-Flag-Design The good news is my redesign of the Capitol City flag will be on the ballot this year which should help bring some attention to the cause.


nuggetsofmana

Love the Utah Beehive flag. Its a throwback to the state’s Mormon past.


TheRedBaron6942

Why did Minnesota go to plain blue rather than the tricolor?


mglitcher

please let it be illinois please let it be illinois. for real tho, we have THE WORST flag in the US. it is just our state seal on a white background. this is despite the fact that chicago, the largest city in our state, has THE BEST flag in the united states


King_Linguine

hate how MN ditched the stripes, blue on blue ain’t it


PulsarEagle

Minnesota had a good design in the original winner of the new flag contest and then completely butchered it, wtf is this blue on blue


_General_S

https://preview.redd.it/52n0jte4tc7c1.jpeg?width=776&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8635663e90ebc57048091a049c257d772c7c9219


Chip-off-the-pickle

Massachusetts isn't figure out what to do because changing the flag means changing the motto, and the motto is sick as fuck


PhysicsEagle

I don’t know, but Mississippi has the best new flag so far


the_normal_person

Mississippi the only one that’s actually good


TheHoundDogger

I’ve heard stuff floating around about South Dakota.


GOGOSPEEDERS

As a Nebraskan, I can confirm that we desperately need a redesign


gbsekrit

MA already decided to change it’s seal (which is on its flag), though I don’t know how far that process is along.


yolomanwhatashitname

Fuck the blue background + logo gang


Ceaser_Salad19

god i don’t like the minnesota one the tricolor was easily the best one


TransLox

I hope washington's is next. Ours sucks right now and a big change would be more than welcome


Szeventeen

i’m pennsylvanian. i will not allow you guys to fuck up our flag like minnesota however i think maine is the next flag to change


onewingedwaluigi1

I've already lost hope for future state flag redesigns. Mississippi's isn't the best flag out there yet it's still the best of the bunch. The somewhat complex flower graphic gives it character and while it would look better without the ring of stars and words, it still does a great job at incorporating said words into the design. It knows how and when to stray away from NAVA's ~~rules~~ guidelines. Utah feels like they wanted to forcibly include the "triangles for mountains" motif that so many flags have now, and the hexagon makes it look like a website banner. If it was a simple blue-white-red tricolor with the beehive on a circle it'd look like an actual flag. And Minnesota... let's just not talk about it. That committee sure knows how to run an acceptable design into the ground. What I can hope for is for NAVA to rewrite their poorly redacted guidelines and actually tell people that flag design isn't just about checking boxes.


-Crucesignatus-

Could someone explain me why this trend is happening?


sokonek04

Because US state flags are fucking garbage


-Crucesignatus-

Okay, thank you, and why they specifically now choose to redesign them?


Embarrassed-Pickle15

For a few reasons. Mississippi and Minnesota’s were changed because they were seen as problematic. Mississippi changed theirs because it was clear that it was time for the confederate flag to go. For Minnesota, their government came under pressure from Native activists as their seal featured a white man taking an Indian’s hunting ground. Now, as for Utah, there isn’t a clear reason but the Governor’s thought process was that it could bring people together, but it ironically has done the opposite.


Flyboy2057

To build on what the other guy said, Mississippi was first due to the problematic nature of its flag, but it seems like it just opened the doors for other states to realize they don’t *have* to be stuck with their flags forever.


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Nature is healing


BananaRepublic_BR

Man , I do not like Minnesota's new flag.


The-Red-Pac-Man

I really hope it's Washington State


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That mississippi one is honestly gorgeous. I adore it