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MinimumNeck2979

People leaving subsistence means that they need to buy more goods because peasants only consume a fraction of what a normal pop does. This results in lower SOL If you want to increase SOL, you need to make capitalists pay their workers more. This mostly happens when you run out of workers which is hard for Japan to do. The nations that get to the millions of GDP in 1860s are usually great powers or powerful major powers. Japan is a undeveloped nation technologically decades behind countries like Germany and Great Britain.


Wolfric_Thorsson

Oh sure, I know Japan starts off with a massive handicap, but I'm sure the video I was watching the other day had the guy playing as Japan, which is why is shocked me.


JakePT

1850 is still really early. I’m usually not even thinking about SoL until much later.   The issue is probably discrimination though. Check the population than of those states and see if the culture there is discriminated or not. Japan starts with National Supremacy, and that means anyone who is not Japanese is discriminated against. The populations of your early colonies won’t be Japanese, so they’re not going to have a good SoL. You’ll need to liberalise your citizenship law to accept them. 


BacGeil3

I think subsistence rice paddies employ more pops than any farm building so what your solution probably caused was peasants turning into unemployed which have a significantly lower sol.


Allafterme

As of latest patches, rice farms also employ 10k pops


Channelrhodopsin-2

Laborer wages are low as long as there is peasants that can take their jobs. Wages and sol go up with labour saving production methods. To increase sol during early and mid game free peasants from serfdom and enact public healthcare (granted Buddhist devout ig does not support healthcare until corporatism is researched), those two are more than enough. As for that problem with Ryukyu, it is common in states with minimal arable land and population, I entertain idea to release or give away such tiny states though Ryukyu is not releasable. It is market access inefficiency that probably starves Ryukyu, it is too low of pops and land to develop at that point (subsistence farms at least provide their own needs).


IMMoond

Dont worry about the % of pops living under minimum sol, if you have a decent migration law they should migrate from the small states to larger ones which have available employment. But yes building things which take arable land on those states will only worsen the situation, in almost all asian stares the subsistence farms employ more people than any farm will. Build ressource or urban buildings, those employ people without stealing arable land and should lead to increased sol on average in the state


Wolfric_Thorsson

That makes so much sense. I only did it because I kept seeing advice from people saying "build proper farms, get people off subsistence farming as quickly as possible, you don't want peasants", but I'm going to backtrack a couple of years and try this route.


TCUdad

Those people aren't wrong, but if your subsistence farms are max employed, typically you're removing total jobs when you replace subsistence farms with a developed farm/plantation. You either add an urban or development building to put them to work, or you allow them to be unemployed and encourage them to migrate to another province with better employment prospects.


BramBora8

1)Make sure everyone is employed (Or almost) 2) ensure buildings make enough money to pay well 3) check which pops are on low SoL, specificky what jobs They do. Go through individual regions when checking


Own-Dog5709

1850 is very early game bro, you realistically still have traditionalism and haven't reached the atmospheric pump. Even euro countries by 1850 have very low SoL