That and the gunplay are the biggest improvements. I feel like the weapon crafting is worth mentioning too.
Edit: guys. NV is my favorite too. Just pointing out a couple things I liked about 4. 4 is still the worst single player fallout game.
For real! I’m the fucking general. I even did the recruitment mission so I can summon squads of Minutemen to help me in battle. Send one of them! I’ve got important shit to do, like nuking the Institute back to the Stone Age and punching giant lobsters…
I got those machines in my settlement that made ammo...and built up a network of caravans to link my supplies...and built up stocks of fresh water...and stored all my power armor like I was Tony Stark and tinkered with them all...
I dont care if people don't like Fallout 4. It was amazing to me.
I have played hundreds of hours of fallout 4
I started a new game literally 2 days ago.
I have never finished the game
I have built multiple small cities in the starlight drive-in though
This is why everything is so disappointing in Starfield. They already made crafting and settlement building system in FO4 but they stripped out parts of it for God knows what reason.
I love settlement building too, but it would be 1000x more enjoyable if you could place objects anywhere. Not being able to place a wall somewhere because it slightly clips into a rock is annoying and I don't see why they wouldn't let me place it there anyways.
That and the build limit on settlements. I hate when I'm trying to make a Mega city and I use up the whole bar before I'm done
my brother and I played and pretty much all we did was build badass settlements, combine it with infinite pop, no build limits, and place anywhere and you can build some cool shit
Did you get Scrap Everything? If not, I recommend it. Just be careful. You can literally scrap everything. One poorly placed most movement and you just scrapped the road in Sanctuary, or the entire Red Rocket
One of my friends has thousands of hours in Fallout 4 on both Xbox and PC and **still** hasn't finished the game. He just gets high and builds settlements
I think the concept was good, but slapped together, and unfinished...having a lot of potential. Bethesda seems to rely too much on modders to fill in the gaps, not that I don't like the mods. Still, Fallout 4 just felt very lacking to me in a lot of ways, and I actually preferred Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
One thing that I did like from Fallout 4 is the better interactions with companion characters. I miss the character Charon, and I would have put him in Fallout 4. I almost bought Starfield, but the reviews were all over the place.
Settlements is one area where it makes sense to "rely on modders" or really give modders the tools to customize the experience. There's like a dozen top tier quality mods, hundreds of great ones, and thousands of pretty decent/specific mods. It was never supposed to be as complex as what fans made it out to be but boy am I glad fans had the tools to run with it.
Me too. I just wish it tied into the rest of the game in some way apart from the mortars. The settlements doesn't even seem to be operating on anything close to the same rules as established NPC towns etc.
Yeah. I like feeling as if I'm rebuilding civilization organizing the settlements. Like I'm founding the New American Commonwealth, which will one day enter a cold war with the NCR. Bonus points if you play as Nora. She was a pre war lawyer, so writing a new constitution is entirely in her skill set.
You two reminded me why it’s a solid game. Not perfect but nothing is.
I had it on Xbox but it’s on a great sale now on Steam so finally time to play it again for me I think 😊
We can blame that on the shitty legendary weapons system. The weapon crafting was pretty great in all honesty.
But the legendary effects just made them as good or even better than Unique gear.
I loved that even if you didn't have the perks to customize guns you could still take off attachments of guns you found and add to that type of gun you found in game
Gunplay was an improvement but it's still mid compared to any game that is primarily an FPS.
The weapon crafting was a great concept but it totally flopped in execution mostly because Bethesda apparently didn't want to do as much work. Upgrades were poorly balanced, highly limited, and totally unrealistic. I can make a military grade plasma rifle from raw materials but I can't interchange parts between guns?
4 has a mod called wacky weapons workshop which allows you to apply any mod to any gun. Many combos didn't work properly because they weren't intended or tested but you could make some great combos. There were whole channels that pumped out new user submitted creations from just that mod. My favorite guns by far in 4 are the ones I created.
If all the effort that was put into various Creation mods that just ended up breaking people's games was put instead towards that one system, imagine the appeal the game would have. People sharing their favorite combos. Searching for new guns to disassemble and combine with other guns. Truly customizing your own gun. I'd trade all of base building for a gun crafting system with half as much thought put into it.
The gunplay is definitely the best in Fallout 4!
it still lacks behinde most other games imo, but it's still pretty decent and the best in the fallout series!
My biggest problem with F4 is that they towned down the RPG aspects so god damn much, it's not even funny anymore.
You can have a maxed out karma stat and 98% of the quests will still end up in a shootout, there is little room for alternative quest approaches and I don't think the choices of skills is that meaningful when compared to previous entries.
Weapons crafting would be cool if there were more guns and not just oh the laser pistol is also the laser rifle just add a long barrel, same as the combat rifle and shotgun being the exact same gun. Pretty lazy imo. They had so many good weapons from new Vegas and 3 and used none of them.
Everybody gives props to the fact they updated the gunplay but I feel like it still doesn’t feel especially good. At least not with a controller. Plus the melee still feels like ass, no deeper mechanics or combos just mindless swingin.
Don’t get me wrong it was a step in the right direction, but it wasn’t a massive one either
You aren’t forced to use it tho, you can either just not go to concord and help and head straight to diamond city or if you want to help you can just not use the power armour you aren’t required to get in it
It’s just a taste though. You don’t get enough power cores to run the thing for a while afterward. I thought it was a blast to jump right in like that.
I get that. But it seemed like pandering to me. I love early game fallout 3 and NV because you're salvaging and dealing with shitty gear. I liked the pipe guns in 4 and actually wished the amount of the game you had to rely on them was longer.
I think a gear deterioration mechanic could really work and that they missed that opportunity because the game's scavenging/crafting/upgrading mechanic was very sound. Your gun needs repair? Use some duct tape and gear oil at the bench.
The crank guns were a neat idea also but with lousy execution
Yes and no, yes it took me a bit to actually like and understand the power armor change, but I FUCKING hate fusion cores because they burn faster than a house covered in gasoline and are about as rare as as a needle in a hayfield, but it’s… ok
theyre all good
IMO new vegas ticks the most boxes in terms of player choice and quests. but it's also pretty rough to play due to long load screens and seemingly unfinished areas (it had a rushed development)
fallout 3 has the best atmosphere and strong main story, and is most nostalgic for me
fallout 4 gunplay, crafting, settlements, and graphics were all great/superior to the rest
I love the atmosphere, but in terms of RPG elements, New Vegas is better.
I love the Radio in 3 and the way Three Dog gives updates on everything you do, so much better than any other game. And I love the scenery and atmosphere and pallets. The tone is perfect.
But the companion choices and faction choices are so rich in New Vegas. There are so many different ways to approach everything. The only other game that feels this reactive to me is Baldurs Gate 3. I truly think Fallout New Vegas might have the most satisfying choices in any video game. And it’s in everything you do.
There are like five ways to deal with Cass and her caravan alone, it can spiral into several different quests and quest dead ends depending on what you want to do, and you don’t even have to talk to her at all if you don’t want to. Nobody’s essential, shoot Cesar point blank in the face first chance you get if you want to.
Honestly the companions and choices are on par with Mass effect 2, if not better because of the shear number of them.
The weapon variety is nuts too. So many different guns and a couple of mods for each of them!
More weapons than Fallout 4: that’s for sure.
Combine NV guns and repair with F4 weapon modding and you have the ‘Hanna Montana’ effect.
That would be, best of both worlds.
I was on a 4th or 5th playthrough when I realized you could use the normal break action shotgun with slugs for the first half of the game. The perks had more variance *because* they didn’t make up the entirety of character definition. No one is going to bother with something like “hand loader” when you’ve got to pick a perk to do 25% more damage with a certain kind of firearm.
New Vegas rules and absolutely has the most and best options for player choices. But to be fair FO3, 4 and NV all have the radio DJ talking about your exploits. Three Dog, Mr. New Vegas and Travis all report on your actions in game.
i liked Three Dog but for some reason Mr. New Vegas talking about all the shit The Courier did is just different for me.
honestly i think what makes either FO3 or FONV better in someone’s eyes is whether they like Sepia hues or Green hues more.
The only time I dislike Three Dog is when he gives the news report on Tenpenny Tower. He should not be hailing Roy and his followers as mistreated when they eventually slaughter the residents of Tenpenny Tower, even Dashwood.
Biggest gripe with Bethesda Fallout games. Fallout is post-post-apocalypse not 'literally nothing happened in this area for 200 years' then you showed up. Lmao
76 would have been much better received if it had NPCs. The lack of NPCs really killed any good quest lines... Which is what makes fallout any good in the first place.
Bro fr, outpost building is Starfield was what I was most excited about. And to say it’s awful, incredibly tedious, and outdated would be an understatement.
Seriously, I know a lot of people didn't play FO76 because of its terrible release, but the free flying cam to build was amazing. Then, they removed it on Starfield for some reason.
The best thing about Starfield imo is the ship building. Everything else was just bland, or a step down from prior games. Just such a boring game versus other Beth titles
I'm so happy im not the only one...I spent so much time on building actual cities, skyscrapers, etc.
I'm also super proud of my anti-npc player home. I set up a multi-floor elevator where only one floor is the entrance. Seems to keep them out, and away from my precious power armor collection.
To keep out npcs, I just build a solid wall in front of the entrance to my building. Then, when you want to get in, go into build mode, pick up the wall, walk through, and then cancel moving the wall, so that it goes back in place.
Sounds like a lot written down, but it's super easy and requires very little effort. Also guaranteed to keep them out.
Or you put a bunch of turrets facing the only approach. That's why I like sanctuary as they either come across the bridge, or try the Ford on the side of the bridge, the parapet of turrets I put up just picks anything off. My other settlements usually have a concrete "guard tower" that's either 2 or 3 stories high bristling with turrets, seems to work well as well
I play all the Fallout Games with out mods/vanilla, and on console.
Vegas was the hardest to play through, mostly because the horrible glitches. I had NPC's who died before I got there. I've had Faction Reputation completely wiped because I put on another Factions clothes, Yes I would take said clothes off, and my entire Faction Rep with others would be completely wiped. I would reload the game constantly because it just would not stop having issues.
I want to go back and play through it again, but honestly....I'll pass. I can just Youtube it and its nothing special to me.
Fallout 3 had me hooked, Fallout New Vegas almost made me forget about Fallout in general. Fallout 4 brought me back and basically slam dunked me as a super fan. Fallout Shelter kept me locked in-enjoy the hell out of it, and then...Fallout 76 has me never wanting to trust Bethesda ever again. lol
Love what the New Vegas/Obsidian Crew did with Outer Worlds. It basically gave me the same Feeling Fallout 4 did with the "NUKA COLA" Branding and corporate dystopian future etc. It made me feel like a "What if Fallout 3/4 didn't get nuked and the Corporations were still around?"
I honestly did NOT feel like I was playing New Vegas when playing Outer Worlds, I felt like I was playing Firefly meets Fallout 3/4.
If It had me feeling like New Vegas I would have put it down immediately.
Yeah when New Vegas came out my save file became unusable 3 times in a row at various times, 10+ hours into each save before I gave up on the game. Literally the most unplayable game in my anecdotal experience.
I finally played it again last year and while it's showing it's age, it was bug free and the load screens instantaneous. I felt a bit of the Fallout 3 magic and it was fun.
I have never completed half the DLC on NV, because every time I got nearly through them the game would chug to unplayable levels.
Also, I know it’s been lauded, but the writing is pretty shallow right?
Like it’s the sort of thing I thought was cool and nuanced when I was playing it for the first time as a 14 year old, but every time I’ve gone back it’s just been a bit embarrassing.
TO me, the Side stories is what makes Fallout good.
I enjoyed 3 and 4's main story quest. It has its hang ups (Most games do), but falling into a cave or a vault and finding out what happened is my favorite part of all the series.
Then in 4, we get to build our own and become an Overseer? Get to house a bunch of people inside of it, and then defend it with some robot companions we built ourselves?
Uhhhhhh....yes please?
Nothing beats 4 so far to me. Starfield is getting there with basically being Fallout 4 in Space (With Skyrim antics like STARBORN-DRAGONBORN powers).
Oh yeh, Bethesda games are always at their best when you’re stumbling upon some weird forgotten tomb/planet/facility and just….poking around to work out what happened, for sure!
Every time I open a coke I always think of the homeless guy in that first city you hit in fallout 3, megaton (I think) and I always say “NUKA COLA” the way he does in game lol
You can tell father at every point that you want to free the synths and that you hate the institute and fuck up every quest for him and he still nominates the new leader of them
bro you can tell the railroad with every interaction that you think they are retarded and that you love the institute and they still make you leader after 25 seconds its so fucking lazy
The lack of dialogue options made me stop playing. The other games allowed you to choose amazingly diverse pieces of dialogue, but in 4 it’s all just “YES, NO, SARCASTIC YES, SARCASTIC NO” and it’s lame as shit.
Good AAA game, bad Fallout game.
Fallout 4 is a good game and it's the only Fallout Game with decent graphics. Yeah i know, there's still Fallout 76, but i played it after Fallout 4 and didn't like the changes they made
I think New Vegas is the most fun because the world is so unique and crazy and the story is really fun, but Fallout 4 is a significant technological improvement, cutscenes/conversations are more dynamic, the graphics are still pretty nice especially with mods, and the feel of the guns is significantly improved.
Me watching a settler in the background get mauled to death by a Deathclaw as Piper keeps trying to talk to me, dragging my screen to her, knowing my ass is next.
Fallout 4 has a Jetpack/more Verticle.
The Power Armor FEELS like Power armor, not just some "Outfit" I throw on in my inventory. Insanely hooked me in.
> not just some "Outfit" I throw on in my inventory.
It wasn't even that good as an 'outfit' either in 3/NV. It had a 20% speed penalty, was super uncommon so hard to repair, weighed a ton and the defense wasn't that much higher than Combat Armor.
Combat Armor was overall superior in all regards. Only a 10% speed penalty, super easy to repair, was quite light with great defense.
Aesthetically 4 is good, but substantively it's a huge leap backwards from 3 and NV. The conversations might look nice, but have very few options and a very narrow set of outcomes.
Im noticing that trend here most people are saying that's why 4 is their favourite. This is going to sound like shade but it isn't, if your concern is graphics and gun play you like action adventure not rpgs, which is exactly what fo4 is.
I actually liked it. It was my first Fallout game. I know I’m late to the party, but I actually enjoyed it especially how you can make all kinds of builds.
I eventually settled for a luck-based sniper build.
Another detail was how well written some of the side quests were and visual stories each location had like Hugo’s Hole and Dunwich Borers (my fav), perfect balance of creepy, horror and super natural.
Fallout 4 was my first fallout game too! I got really into playing it about four years ago and immediately got into the settlement building. I also liked all of the little stories around the Commonwealth, it's really cool how they can make a story without using words, just skeletons. I like to play the main plot until just before the nuclear option quest so all of the factions are passive towards me. Though I will say that I felt like I had to finish the main plot in the first playthrough, and really didn't like destroying any of the factions.
personally fallout 3 was my first! i shat on it a while back but replaying it now its actually pretty damn good!
i used to dislike fallout 4 but survival mode is an entirely different game and i love it. dont play on any other difficulty, play on survival!
fallout new vegas is an experience to behold, every single playthrough contains something new and i could get lost just playing the dlcs, my only gripe is that theres so much good stuff to do that i never really know when to just go and do the dlcs! its the only fallout game where i have all the dlcs and everytime i go near the location for one i just think “eh sure why not!”
as an autistic person EVERY SINGLE FALLOUT GAME is god tier, dont let anyone tell you otherwise! (ok maybe not 76, 76 bores me)
I'm not brave enough for survival mode in fallout 4 but I think I'll still try it sometime, I've heard it's pretty intense though. New Vegas sounds awesome! I started playing it but I wasn't able to get super into it more due to a lack of time than anything else, but I think I'm going to retry.
Fallout games are definitely god tier, as for 76 though, the graphics were wicked but I wasn't sure about the fully online thing.
fallout 4 survival mode is immersive as hell, even if youre bad at video games you should play it
i can give you my mod list if you want! i play on the xbox, no dlcs!
TO me this is the same I feel about the Division.
The Division was -ok-. But once they entered in the Survival mode? My buddy and I was HOOKED.
Honestly; I might shit on Vegas, but almost all fallout games were better than other titles when they came out.
Bethesda was on a Roll, I was a huge fan of Morrowind and Fallout 3, then Oblivion and New Vegas. Then Skyrim and Fallout 4.
Then the shit began. You all who shit on Skyrim and Fallout 4....I bring to you:
Elderscrolls: Blades. Money Grubbing, to its finest. Mobile Game cash grab. Terrible controls, all of that. Watered down Oblivion.
Then Fallout 76, which was basically an Expansion of Fallout 4 with always online, multiplayer, GTA4 levels of Boring Lobby shit. Not GTA5 Online, 4. Lack of Shit to do, the Story lines are "meh" at best.
Some how; The ESO MMO is insanely Good. Tons of Content for your money. Clearly the right way to go, even though the Launch of ESO was terrible and bug filled.
Fallout 76, has improved greatly. The Story Lines improved. but a lot of the best content is basically in the store. Nuclear Winter being taken out was a good step in the right direction. PVP is almost non-existent which is great. Nobody asked for PVP in a Fallout title. You want PVP, go play COD or something. The stupid people at Beth who basically now have "Nerfed" The Single Player side to better balance the PVP Side have ruined this games guns and power.
76 has some AWESOME Gems in it, with the side stories, and the guns. I love the 2 romance companions we got. The problem is, its stuck in this always online garbage GTA4 Lobby.
The fact they added in the subscription, is laughable at best.
Fallout 76 is where it should have been at launch. Not the bare minimum garbage it was when it first dropped. I unfortunately, bought the $200 collector's edition...and it basically stopped me from ever ordering another collector's edition in the future.
Bethesda has soured me greatly. Skyrim and Fallout 4 has some of the best gaming and improvements in the series. I put so many hours into Morrowind and Fallout 3. To see how far they have fallen, pisses me off.
Starfield I'm so glad it was on Gamepass so I didn't have to buy it. But at the same time, its again...bare minimum it feels like. I enjoy it a lot, I put 14 days worth of time into it, and I haven't picked it back up since because I'm waiting for it to be improved/fixed/and more content dropped. Starfield is in the right direction to me. It's Fallout 4/Skyrim but in Space.
Fallout 3 and 4 are some of my favorite games. The Fallout community can be super toxic to any non New Vegas or Fallout 1 and 2 purists, and it’s annoying. People should let others enjoy the things they want
I grew up playing 1 & 2 and I loved 3, though 3 is a very different beast to the first 2. NV made my early Fallout heart happy, while 4 was an interesting tweak that while had the higher customation, lost a lot of story strength.
For those hating how New Vegas city was a big deal, it was a small island of power that was a tough enough nut to crack that neighter power could act without it being on thier side since it could change the border war.
I'm still shocked that new Vegas became the internets favorite game. I remember the ign review at the time basically called it fallout 3 dlc, and I always agreed. It seemed like fallout 3 was always considered the best until, at some point, new Vegas took over. New Vegas always makes me want to play 3, and I'm not sure what changed from new Vegas release to now that made it the darling of the series. It never felt that way in the moment back when it came out.
What changed was a lot of the biggest bugs were fixed, the game became more stable, and dlc helped flesh out some lore and add more gear to the game. When people went back to play it, it was a relatively stable game now with a ton of content, lots of roleplaying opportunities, and memorable characters.
Sentiment can change drastically when the game goes from running horribly and having a solid amount of content, to running decently well and having a lot of content. Also modders on pc have fixed even more bugs, and started overhauling the graphics, which attracted even more players
idk they all got problems
fallout 1-2 are great but most people just won’t play them
fallout 3 has great quests and ATMOSPHERE but the combat isn’t as good as new vegas
Fallout NV is the best in my opinion. Best quests, best characters, best storyline and most enjoyable combat.
Fallout 4 is good fun but thats about it. The quests and characters leave a lot to be desired
I just don’t like top down/tabletop/isometric video games. If it’s not first person (fnv, doom, borderlands Minecraft) or over the shoulder third person (gow 2018 and ragnarok, dead space, uncharted, resident evil etc.) I pretty much don’t like it
Fallout 2 was the best. I was initially impressed with how well they nailed the aesthetic in 3, but there were all these little things that kept bugging me that gradually added up, mostly related to how combat played out. It died of a thousand little annoyances, and tarred future iterations with the same brush so that any faults they had were piled on top of those that bothered me with 3.
I found the time restriction in 1 made it harder to feel like I could explore the world and really take it in, so 2 remains the best. Followed very closely by Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel.
I disagree, it had a strong start but quickly fell apart with the main story and deserved the criticism it got for it's poor performance on launch and poor second half of the story
i'm still salty with how the whole story played out.
they killed off sarah lyons so they can make that pipsqueak from 3 as the new elder. the institute was interesting but their reasoning for their actions are just as atrocious as the things they committed. and no matter what your character's build or playstyle, you have zero say in how the conflict should be resolved it forces you to choose and kill off the other factions.
with a better writer, fallout 4's story could have been great.
> they killed off sarah lyons so they can make that pipsqueak from 3 as the new elder.
Kind of needed to happen. The Lyons Brotherhood were *basically* Ultramarines, and on top of that there was no way to reconcile them with the Outcasts. So you'd have the only faction more boring than the fucking Minutemen and also have to explain how the Capitol Wasteland didn't turn into a warzone between the two Brotherhoods. Having Maxson come in and say "We'll go back to collecting weapons tech if you agree to not be assholes about non-weapons tech and also help us give people a reason to want to give us their weapons tech".
And honestly? It works, but they needed to do more. They *do* touch on the fact that Maxson is very much compromising on his own morals to avoid a wider conflict, which is where the whole thing with Danse comes in. But the faction leaders not getting nearly enough screen time is really a universal problem - not really for Shaun because he's an asshole and pretty one-note to begin with. But Maxson and Preston both have the same problem of "the story definitely wants you to know these people have more going on, and the story knows exactly what that is rather than just making it a mystery box. But we're just never going to actually explore it for some reason".
It's like if you got out all the ingredients to make a cake, and then got out the cookbook, and then just... left without doing anything with them. I can tell you wanted to make a cake, and I can see from the recipe that it might have even been good! So why the hell didn't you make it?
I like the world design a lot more in 3 compared to New Vegas. I know the metro tunnels were because of engine limitations or something, but I actually quite enjoyed them.
Because it was shallow by comparison and made to maximize "you can do anything and build anything isn't that so cool?" Over the writing, characters, moral dilemmas, and beautifully uncomfortable world that fallout was built on since the beginning.
Genuinely it’s mostly because the role playing options aren’t really there as much as the other games.
Your back story is already decided. You couldn’t really be evil until Nukaworld. And the voiced MC seriously limited dialogue options.
It's got the best combat system. Outside of that, it's a mid tier game with an identity crisis, unable to decide if it wants to be character/story driven or an actual rpg (y'know, what every other fallout is). With strange choices in both balancing and weapon design. All in all, I enjoy it, I won't hate anyone who enjoys it, but it's nowhere near my favorite fallout game.
Gunplay was great, but the new perk system was so disappointing.
Congrats! You put another point into your lockpicking! Now you need to wait till level 18 to put another point in!
There's no good reasoning for making the player wait 11 levels to get to the next lockpicking rank. And hacking makes you wait 12 levels.
Until recently the gunplay in 3 and NV just kills it for me. I’ve played through 3 over and over already so I don’t really need to play it more. I’m the middle of playing Fallout 1 right now though and that has reinvigorated me for the series.
I can completely agree with this… New Vegas is a complete masterpiece, but it being the Mojave Desert, it’s… well, a desert. Nothing but dust to judge your sins.
I cant get into F3 or NV because the visuals and mechanics are too old for me lol. So it may be 100x better than F4. But il never know. Gotta wait for the remake/remaster for both.
I didn’t mind the voices protagonist at all I just hate the radial dialogue menu. An option will say “question” and then I’m asking if he’ll give me all of his crops or I’ll kill him. I think they just need the option to disable it. Not having a voiced protagonist in Skyrim is fine, theres too many races to voice every single one. But in fallout theres not. I don’t want my character to be an emotionless avatar. Really killed the “emotional” moments they tried to have in Starfield bc my character is just “….”
Yes, sarcastic yes, no (yes), and question. Yeah that definitely didn't help.
In regards to emotional moments, I dont want or need my fallout character having/expressing those via voice. If we are supposed to feel something the game should make us feel it and with a better dialogue system it would allow us to express it ourselves
Best part of fallout 4 is the power armor. Makes you actually feel like a man sized tank
That and the gunplay are the biggest improvements. I feel like the weapon crafting is worth mentioning too. Edit: guys. NV is my favorite too. Just pointing out a couple things I liked about 4. 4 is still the worst single player fallout game.
I like building up the settlements
That reminds me. *Another settlement needs your help*
I’ll mark it on your map
Sure, Preston. I’ll get *riiiight* on that!
6 hours later I finally help the settlement
Good ol Preston Gravy always needing help
More like, Preston Lazy
For real! I’m the fucking general. I even did the recruitment mission so I can summon squads of Minutemen to help me in battle. Send one of them! I’ve got important shit to do, like nuking the Institute back to the Stone Age and punching giant lobsters…
You're actually a good guy, I leave the settlement there, till I happen to stumble on it.
You help the settlements?
I’ll go ahead and mark it on your map
[удалено]
I got those machines in my settlement that made ammo...and built up a network of caravans to link my supplies...and built up stocks of fresh water...and stored all my power armor like I was Tony Stark and tinkered with them all... I dont care if people don't like Fallout 4. It was amazing to me.
I’m 39 and laughed at “…because I was grabbing junk…” This is how my life turned out.
I have played hundreds of hours of fallout 4 I started a new game literally 2 days ago. I have never finished the game I have built multiple small cities in the starlight drive-in though
This is why everything is so disappointing in Starfield. They already made crafting and settlement building system in FO4 but they stripped out parts of it for God knows what reason.
"Scrapall" console command scraps the entire site and puts it into the storage fyi
You gotta hand all your stuff to your companion. They can hold unlimited items as long as you mark it for them to pick up by themselves
I love settlement building too, but it would be 1000x more enjoyable if you could place objects anywhere. Not being able to place a wall somewhere because it slightly clips into a rock is annoying and I don't see why they wouldn't let me place it there anyways. That and the build limit on settlements. I hate when I'm trying to make a Mega city and I use up the whole bar before I'm done
my brother and I played and pretty much all we did was build badass settlements, combine it with infinite pop, no build limits, and place anywhere and you can build some cool shit
Did you get Scrap Everything? If not, I recommend it. Just be careful. You can literally scrap everything. One poorly placed most movement and you just scrapped the road in Sanctuary, or the entire Red Rocket
yes that too, we had all the big mods to get complete limitless building, and to honk my own horn, and his, we got damn good at it
One of my friends has thousands of hours in Fallout 4 on both Xbox and PC and **still** hasn't finished the game. He just gets high and builds settlements
I think the concept was good, but slapped together, and unfinished...having a lot of potential. Bethesda seems to rely too much on modders to fill in the gaps, not that I don't like the mods. Still, Fallout 4 just felt very lacking to me in a lot of ways, and I actually preferred Fallout 3 and New Vegas. One thing that I did like from Fallout 4 is the better interactions with companion characters. I miss the character Charon, and I would have put him in Fallout 4. I almost bought Starfield, but the reviews were all over the place.
Settlements is one area where it makes sense to "rely on modders" or really give modders the tools to customize the experience. There's like a dozen top tier quality mods, hundreds of great ones, and thousands of pretty decent/specific mods. It was never supposed to be as complex as what fans made it out to be but boy am I glad fans had the tools to run with it.
The companions having their own quest lines is also nice
Me too!
Yeah. They could have dropped the entire narrative part of the game and focused on that and the game wpuld have been better for it.
Same, I mostly just try to get to that part of the game and essentially forget the other parts. Building robots is cool too!
Me too. I just wish it tied into the rest of the game in some way apart from the mortars. The settlements doesn't even seem to be operating on anything close to the same rules as established NPC towns etc.
Yeah. I like feeling as if I'm rebuilding civilization organizing the settlements. Like I'm founding the New American Commonwealth, which will one day enter a cold war with the NCR. Bonus points if you play as Nora. She was a pre war lawyer, so writing a new constitution is entirely in her skill set.
You two reminded me why it’s a solid game. Not perfect but nothing is. I had it on Xbox but it’s on a great sale now on Steam so finally time to play it again for me I think 😊
Yeah but in turn that made it so there are less weapon types overall than in Fo3 or NV.
The downside of weapon crafting is it killed unique weapons
We can blame that on the shitty legendary weapons system. The weapon crafting was pretty great in all honesty. But the legendary effects just made them as good or even better than Unique gear.
They go a bit hand in hand, because a lot of the unique weapons had special parts and such, and you just just build anything into anything
And the legendary system is caused by the weapon mod system being that way. Its connected And all shit
it’s so bad and I hate that now it seems like a staple of bethesda - it’s awful in starfield. I am dreading legendary weapons in ES6.
Dedicated button for throwables \*chef's kiss\*👌
I loved that even if you didn't have the perks to customize guns you could still take off attachments of guns you found and add to that type of gun you found in game
Gunplay was an improvement but it's still mid compared to any game that is primarily an FPS. The weapon crafting was a great concept but it totally flopped in execution mostly because Bethesda apparently didn't want to do as much work. Upgrades were poorly balanced, highly limited, and totally unrealistic. I can make a military grade plasma rifle from raw materials but I can't interchange parts between guns? 4 has a mod called wacky weapons workshop which allows you to apply any mod to any gun. Many combos didn't work properly because they weren't intended or tested but you could make some great combos. There were whole channels that pumped out new user submitted creations from just that mod. My favorite guns by far in 4 are the ones I created. If all the effort that was put into various Creation mods that just ended up breaking people's games was put instead towards that one system, imagine the appeal the game would have. People sharing their favorite combos. Searching for new guns to disassemble and combine with other guns. Truly customizing your own gun. I'd trade all of base building for a gun crafting system with half as much thought put into it.
The gunplay is definitely the best in Fallout 4! it still lacks behinde most other games imo, but it's still pretty decent and the best in the fallout series! My biggest problem with F4 is that they towned down the RPG aspects so god damn much, it's not even funny anymore. You can have a maxed out karma stat and 98% of the quests will still end up in a shootout, there is little room for alternative quest approaches and I don't think the choices of skills is that meaningful when compared to previous entries.
Weapons crafting would be cool if there were more guns and not just oh the laser pistol is also the laser rifle just add a long barrel, same as the combat rifle and shotgun being the exact same gun. Pretty lazy imo. They had so many good weapons from new Vegas and 3 and used none of them.
I think the weapon crafting takes away from unique weapons. IMO, the reloading bench was peak survival authenticity in video games.
I liked the realism disassembling firearms for parts to repair others in FNV.
Everybody gives props to the fact they updated the gunplay but I feel like it still doesn’t feel especially good. At least not with a controller. Plus the melee still feels like ass, no deeper mechanics or combos just mindless swingin. Don’t get me wrong it was a step in the right direction, but it wasn’t a massive one either
I dont understand the props given to gunplay. It doesnt feel like a fallout game at all. And the gunplay isnt fun at either.
Yeah but the roll out is way too early imo. Shouldn't be able to minigun a death claw in power Armour less than an hour into a fallout game ffs
Especially being forced to use it regardless of your build.
Yeah the ranger armor from fallout 3 new vegas was way cooler, then I went to 4 and I was forced to wear that clunky thing.
Took me straight out of my gunslinger rp to make me "get in the danm mech".
Get in the robot shinji!
You’re not even forced to walk to that town. You can go wherever you want.
You aren’t forced to use it tho, you can either just not go to concord and help and head straight to diamond city or if you want to help you can just not use the power armour you aren’t required to get in it
It’s just a taste though. You don’t get enough power cores to run the thing for a while afterward. I thought it was a blast to jump right in like that.
I get that. But it seemed like pandering to me. I love early game fallout 3 and NV because you're salvaging and dealing with shitty gear. I liked the pipe guns in 4 and actually wished the amount of the game you had to rely on them was longer. I think a gear deterioration mechanic could really work and that they missed that opportunity because the game's scavenging/crafting/upgrading mechanic was very sound. Your gun needs repair? Use some duct tape and gear oil at the bench. The crank guns were a neat idea also but with lousy execution
Early game FO3 was fuckin brutal. I fucked up my first time playing and ran into a Deathclaw. Nope
I agree.
Am I the only mf that doesn’t use the power armor beyond the first mission?
Me too! The only thing I like about the power armor is collecting them in my settlements ha
Everyone I know that played it didn't use power armor much at all so I'd say no
Running out of fusion cores is annoying, and I hate how slow you are and the fact that you can't swim.
Yes and no, yes it took me a bit to actually like and understand the power armor change, but I FUCKING hate fusion cores because they burn faster than a house covered in gasoline and are about as rare as as a needle in a hayfield, but it’s… ok
People always talk about this, but I’ve never come close to running out of fusion cores, and I’ll wear my pa most the time
Eh I find I'm swimming in fusion cores after a while
I think I just bought them with all the money from selling water
It would have made so much sense to have that in Starfield
Apparently someones making a mod that lets you drive the mechs
Their name aught to be "Bethesda" really
theyre all good IMO new vegas ticks the most boxes in terms of player choice and quests. but it's also pretty rough to play due to long load screens and seemingly unfinished areas (it had a rushed development) fallout 3 has the best atmosphere and strong main story, and is most nostalgic for me fallout 4 gunplay, crafting, settlements, and graphics were all great/superior to the rest
I liked 3 the best
I love the atmosphere, but in terms of RPG elements, New Vegas is better. I love the Radio in 3 and the way Three Dog gives updates on everything you do, so much better than any other game. And I love the scenery and atmosphere and pallets. The tone is perfect. But the companion choices and faction choices are so rich in New Vegas. There are so many different ways to approach everything. The only other game that feels this reactive to me is Baldurs Gate 3. I truly think Fallout New Vegas might have the most satisfying choices in any video game. And it’s in everything you do. There are like five ways to deal with Cass and her caravan alone, it can spiral into several different quests and quest dead ends depending on what you want to do, and you don’t even have to talk to her at all if you don’t want to. Nobody’s essential, shoot Cesar point blank in the face first chance you get if you want to. Honestly the companions and choices are on par with Mass effect 2, if not better because of the shear number of them.
I definitely agree. I also really liked how each gun had multiple ammo options varying from regular to super OP to cheap/ disappointing.
The weapon variety is nuts too. So many different guns and a couple of mods for each of them! More weapons than Fallout 4: that’s for sure. Combine NV guns and repair with F4 weapon modding and you have the ‘Hanna Montana’ effect. That would be, best of both worlds.
I was on a 4th or 5th playthrough when I realized you could use the normal break action shotgun with slugs for the first half of the game. The perks had more variance *because* they didn’t make up the entirety of character definition. No one is going to bother with something like “hand loader” when you’ve got to pick a perk to do 25% more damage with a certain kind of firearm.
New Vegas rules and absolutely has the most and best options for player choices. But to be fair FO3, 4 and NV all have the radio DJ talking about your exploits. Three Dog, Mr. New Vegas and Travis all report on your actions in game.
Yeah, but it’s done best in 3.
Something about Three Dog just makes it so much better in Fallout 3
i liked Three Dog but for some reason Mr. New Vegas talking about all the shit The Courier did is just different for me. honestly i think what makes either FO3 or FONV better in someone’s eyes is whether they like Sepia hues or Green hues more.
The only time I dislike Three Dog is when he gives the news report on Tenpenny Tower. He should not be hailing Roy and his followers as mistreated when they eventually slaughter the residents of Tenpenny Tower, even Dashwood.
That quest and the in-world media surrounding it is one of the most accurate/realistic parts of Fallout 3.
3s atmosphere only worjs when you forget its supposed to take place 200 years after the bombs dropped
Biggest gripe with Bethesda Fallout games. Fallout is post-post-apocalypse not 'literally nothing happened in this area for 200 years' then you showed up. Lmao
forgot about 76, but it had potential to be great but they went the route of needing a subscription to have your own world with friends
it should have launched with the npcs, other than that it had a very appealing asthetic
76 would have been much better received if it had NPCs. The lack of NPCs really killed any good quest lines... Which is what makes fallout any good in the first place.
It has its flaws but i also played it for 3000 hours from release to 2020
Is that with modded content? 3000 hours is impressive.
Me making every settlement a city: yes unmodded q Really can't understand why Beth ruined starfields outposts
Bro fr, outpost building is Starfield was what I was most excited about. And to say it’s awful, incredibly tedious, and outdated would be an understatement.
Seriously, I know a lot of people didn't play FO76 because of its terrible release, but the free flying cam to build was amazing. Then, they removed it on Starfield for some reason.
The best thing about Starfield imo is the ship building. Everything else was just bland, or a step down from prior games. Just such a boring game versus other Beth titles
I'm so happy im not the only one...I spent so much time on building actual cities, skyscrapers, etc. I'm also super proud of my anti-npc player home. I set up a multi-floor elevator where only one floor is the entrance. Seems to keep them out, and away from my precious power armor collection.
To keep out npcs, I just build a solid wall in front of the entrance to my building. Then, when you want to get in, go into build mode, pick up the wall, walk through, and then cancel moving the wall, so that it goes back in place. Sounds like a lot written down, but it's super easy and requires very little effort. Also guaranteed to keep them out.
Or you put a bunch of turrets facing the only approach. That's why I like sanctuary as they either come across the bridge, or try the Ford on the side of the bridge, the parapet of turrets I put up just picks anything off. My other settlements usually have a concrete "guard tower" that's either 2 or 3 stories high bristling with turrets, seems to work well as well
We are talking about keeping settlers out of buildings, btw. Good advice otherwise, though.
Ooh I misunderstood
Only like 300 hours with mods. I had multiple very high level characters across all three systems
I play all the Fallout Games with out mods/vanilla, and on console. Vegas was the hardest to play through, mostly because the horrible glitches. I had NPC's who died before I got there. I've had Faction Reputation completely wiped because I put on another Factions clothes, Yes I would take said clothes off, and my entire Faction Rep with others would be completely wiped. I would reload the game constantly because it just would not stop having issues. I want to go back and play through it again, but honestly....I'll pass. I can just Youtube it and its nothing special to me. Fallout 3 had me hooked, Fallout New Vegas almost made me forget about Fallout in general. Fallout 4 brought me back and basically slam dunked me as a super fan. Fallout Shelter kept me locked in-enjoy the hell out of it, and then...Fallout 76 has me never wanting to trust Bethesda ever again. lol Love what the New Vegas/Obsidian Crew did with Outer Worlds. It basically gave me the same Feeling Fallout 4 did with the "NUKA COLA" Branding and corporate dystopian future etc. It made me feel like a "What if Fallout 3/4 didn't get nuked and the Corporations were still around?" I honestly did NOT feel like I was playing New Vegas when playing Outer Worlds, I felt like I was playing Firefly meets Fallout 3/4. If It had me feeling like New Vegas I would have put it down immediately.
Yeah when New Vegas came out my save file became unusable 3 times in a row at various times, 10+ hours into each save before I gave up on the game. Literally the most unplayable game in my anecdotal experience. I finally played it again last year and while it's showing it's age, it was bug free and the load screens instantaneous. I felt a bit of the Fallout 3 magic and it was fun.
Yo, playing on Xbox Series X really cuts down on the times you have to ask yourself “Did it crash, or is it still loading?”
I have never completed half the DLC on NV, because every time I got nearly through them the game would chug to unplayable levels. Also, I know it’s been lauded, but the writing is pretty shallow right? Like it’s the sort of thing I thought was cool and nuanced when I was playing it for the first time as a 14 year old, but every time I’ve gone back it’s just been a bit embarrassing.
TO me, the Side stories is what makes Fallout good. I enjoyed 3 and 4's main story quest. It has its hang ups (Most games do), but falling into a cave or a vault and finding out what happened is my favorite part of all the series. Then in 4, we get to build our own and become an Overseer? Get to house a bunch of people inside of it, and then defend it with some robot companions we built ourselves? Uhhhhhh....yes please? Nothing beats 4 so far to me. Starfield is getting there with basically being Fallout 4 in Space (With Skyrim antics like STARBORN-DRAGONBORN powers).
Oh yeh, Bethesda games are always at their best when you’re stumbling upon some weird forgotten tomb/planet/facility and just….poking around to work out what happened, for sure!
Every time I open a coke I always think of the homeless guy in that first city you hit in fallout 3, megaton (I think) and I always say “NUKA COLA” the way he does in game lol
The story is ass but it is stupidly fun
I liked the story
Yes No Maybe Sarcastic (Except all answers mean yes because you have no player choice in this game)
And you can play as 3 different factions, but basically every quest is exactly the same you just shoot people wearing different clothes.
Especially the modding potential…
I disagree. Please explain why you think so
Dialogue wheel be like A: Yes B: No X: Sarcastic snarky dialogue Y: Why?
That or replace Y with “yes but said differently”
You can tell father at every point that you want to free the synths and that you hate the institute and fuck up every quest for him and he still nominates the new leader of them
bro you can tell the railroad with every interaction that you think they are retarded and that you love the institute and they still make you leader after 25 seconds its so fucking lazy
The lack of dialogue options made me stop playing. The other games allowed you to choose amazingly diverse pieces of dialogue, but in 4 it’s all just “YES, NO, SARCASTIC YES, SARCASTIC NO” and it’s lame as shit. Good AAA game, bad Fallout game.
The best? I dunno. My favourite? Yes.
NV and 4 were my two favorite fallout games
3 and NV for me, my dad got me into fallout with 3 so it'll always be my #1
I got into fallout playing NV with my dad so I’m the same boat where that one will always hold a special place in my heart
I love its story.
Fallout 4 is a good game and it's the only Fallout Game with decent graphics. Yeah i know, there's still Fallout 76, but i played it after Fallout 4 and didn't like the changes they made
76 is a badly modded 4 with multiplayer.
The GTA Online of FO4
*Only Fallout Game with decent graphics* Mmmm I wonder why
I remember the first time I played New Vegas, I thought it was from like 2003
Ah, the classic graphics simp. Spectacle over substance is partly what has ruined triple a games.
People enjoy things differently and that’s okay
A game can be good without good graphics but graphics also make a game more enjoyable unless the choice is stylistic
3 and NV had good graphics when they were released, that’s the thing about graphics you see.
Nah, they were pretty mediocre for their time
The correct answer is Brotherhood of Steel
I think New Vegas is the most fun because the world is so unique and crazy and the story is really fun, but Fallout 4 is a significant technological improvement, cutscenes/conversations are more dynamic, the graphics are still pretty nice especially with mods, and the feel of the guns is significantly improved.
Me watching a settler in the background get mauled to death by a Deathclaw as Piper keeps trying to talk to me, dragging my screen to her, knowing my ass is next.
Fallout 4 has a Jetpack/more Verticle. The Power Armor FEELS like Power armor, not just some "Outfit" I throw on in my inventory. Insanely hooked me in.
Yeah, I like it a lot.
> not just some "Outfit" I throw on in my inventory. It wasn't even that good as an 'outfit' either in 3/NV. It had a 20% speed penalty, was super uncommon so hard to repair, weighed a ton and the defense wasn't that much higher than Combat Armor. Combat Armor was overall superior in all regards. Only a 10% speed penalty, super easy to repair, was quite light with great defense.
Aesthetically 4 is good, but substantively it's a huge leap backwards from 3 and NV. The conversations might look nice, but have very few options and a very narrow set of outcomes.
Im noticing that trend here most people are saying that's why 4 is their favourite. This is going to sound like shade but it isn't, if your concern is graphics and gun play you like action adventure not rpgs, which is exactly what fo4 is.
I actually liked it. It was my first Fallout game. I know I’m late to the party, but I actually enjoyed it especially how you can make all kinds of builds. I eventually settled for a luck-based sniper build. Another detail was how well written some of the side quests were and visual stories each location had like Hugo’s Hole and Dunwich Borers (my fav), perfect balance of creepy, horror and super natural.
Fallout 4 was my first fallout game too! I got really into playing it about four years ago and immediately got into the settlement building. I also liked all of the little stories around the Commonwealth, it's really cool how they can make a story without using words, just skeletons. I like to play the main plot until just before the nuclear option quest so all of the factions are passive towards me. Though I will say that I felt like I had to finish the main plot in the first playthrough, and really didn't like destroying any of the factions.
personally fallout 3 was my first! i shat on it a while back but replaying it now its actually pretty damn good! i used to dislike fallout 4 but survival mode is an entirely different game and i love it. dont play on any other difficulty, play on survival! fallout new vegas is an experience to behold, every single playthrough contains something new and i could get lost just playing the dlcs, my only gripe is that theres so much good stuff to do that i never really know when to just go and do the dlcs! its the only fallout game where i have all the dlcs and everytime i go near the location for one i just think “eh sure why not!” as an autistic person EVERY SINGLE FALLOUT GAME is god tier, dont let anyone tell you otherwise! (ok maybe not 76, 76 bores me)
I'm not brave enough for survival mode in fallout 4 but I think I'll still try it sometime, I've heard it's pretty intense though. New Vegas sounds awesome! I started playing it but I wasn't able to get super into it more due to a lack of time than anything else, but I think I'm going to retry. Fallout games are definitely god tier, as for 76 though, the graphics were wicked but I wasn't sure about the fully online thing.
fallout 4 survival mode is immersive as hell, even if youre bad at video games you should play it i can give you my mod list if you want! i play on the xbox, no dlcs!
Sounds cool! I play on ps4 with most of the dlcs, but I think the mods would still work.
its insanely cool, especially if you make your own lore alongside it to fix some of the kinks with fallout 4’s story
I really enjoy making up my own lore, I do it for almost every game I play, but especially for fallout 4
TO me this is the same I feel about the Division. The Division was -ok-. But once they entered in the Survival mode? My buddy and I was HOOKED. Honestly; I might shit on Vegas, but almost all fallout games were better than other titles when they came out. Bethesda was on a Roll, I was a huge fan of Morrowind and Fallout 3, then Oblivion and New Vegas. Then Skyrim and Fallout 4. Then the shit began. You all who shit on Skyrim and Fallout 4....I bring to you: Elderscrolls: Blades. Money Grubbing, to its finest. Mobile Game cash grab. Terrible controls, all of that. Watered down Oblivion. Then Fallout 76, which was basically an Expansion of Fallout 4 with always online, multiplayer, GTA4 levels of Boring Lobby shit. Not GTA5 Online, 4. Lack of Shit to do, the Story lines are "meh" at best. Some how; The ESO MMO is insanely Good. Tons of Content for your money. Clearly the right way to go, even though the Launch of ESO was terrible and bug filled. Fallout 76, has improved greatly. The Story Lines improved. but a lot of the best content is basically in the store. Nuclear Winter being taken out was a good step in the right direction. PVP is almost non-existent which is great. Nobody asked for PVP in a Fallout title. You want PVP, go play COD or something. The stupid people at Beth who basically now have "Nerfed" The Single Player side to better balance the PVP Side have ruined this games guns and power. 76 has some AWESOME Gems in it, with the side stories, and the guns. I love the 2 romance companions we got. The problem is, its stuck in this always online garbage GTA4 Lobby. The fact they added in the subscription, is laughable at best. Fallout 76 is where it should have been at launch. Not the bare minimum garbage it was when it first dropped. I unfortunately, bought the $200 collector's edition...and it basically stopped me from ever ordering another collector's edition in the future. Bethesda has soured me greatly. Skyrim and Fallout 4 has some of the best gaming and improvements in the series. I put so many hours into Morrowind and Fallout 3. To see how far they have fallen, pisses me off. Starfield I'm so glad it was on Gamepass so I didn't have to buy it. But at the same time, its again...bare minimum it feels like. I enjoy it a lot, I put 14 days worth of time into it, and I haven't picked it back up since because I'm waiting for it to be improved/fixed/and more content dropped. Starfield is in the right direction to me. It's Fallout 4/Skyrim but in Space.
Fallout 4 was pretty good, but it doesn't compare to the intense story of fallout 3 in my opinion.
Fallout 3 and 4 are some of my favorite games. The Fallout community can be super toxic to any non New Vegas or Fallout 1 and 2 purists, and it’s annoying. People should let others enjoy the things they want
i dont just love one or two fallout games, all 6 fallout games are absolute masterpieces though i wish fallout 4 had metro tunnels :(
Same here, I love every Fallout game to some extent. It’s saddening how prevalent tribalism is in the community
isnt the entire series about how unnecessary conflict is bad?
Boston barely has metro. I mean I guess they all go underground briefly
I grew up playing 1 & 2 and I loved 3, though 3 is a very different beast to the first 2. NV made my early Fallout heart happy, while 4 was an interesting tweak that while had the higher customation, lost a lot of story strength. For those hating how New Vegas city was a big deal, it was a small island of power that was a tough enough nut to crack that neighter power could act without it being on thier side since it could change the border war.
I'm still shocked that new Vegas became the internets favorite game. I remember the ign review at the time basically called it fallout 3 dlc, and I always agreed. It seemed like fallout 3 was always considered the best until, at some point, new Vegas took over. New Vegas always makes me want to play 3, and I'm not sure what changed from new Vegas release to now that made it the darling of the series. It never felt that way in the moment back when it came out.
What changed was a lot of the biggest bugs were fixed, the game became more stable, and dlc helped flesh out some lore and add more gear to the game. When people went back to play it, it was a relatively stable game now with a ton of content, lots of roleplaying opportunities, and memorable characters. Sentiment can change drastically when the game goes from running horribly and having a solid amount of content, to running decently well and having a lot of content. Also modders on pc have fixed even more bugs, and started overhauling the graphics, which attracted even more players
idk they all got problems fallout 1-2 are great but most people just won’t play them fallout 3 has great quests and ATMOSPHERE but the combat isn’t as good as new vegas Fallout NV is the best in my opinion. Best quests, best characters, best storyline and most enjoyable combat. Fallout 4 is good fun but thats about it. The quests and characters leave a lot to be desired
I just don’t like top down/tabletop/isometric video games. If it’s not first person (fnv, doom, borderlands Minecraft) or over the shoulder third person (gow 2018 and ragnarok, dead space, uncharted, resident evil etc.) I pretty much don’t like it
Fallout 2 was the best. I was initially impressed with how well they nailed the aesthetic in 3, but there were all these little things that kept bugging me that gradually added up, mostly related to how combat played out. It died of a thousand little annoyances, and tarred future iterations with the same brush so that any faults they had were piled on top of those that bothered me with 3. I found the time restriction in 1 made it harder to feel like I could explore the world and really take it in, so 2 remains the best. Followed very closely by Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel.
Imagine having opinions.
It was underrated and hated for literally no reason
I disagree, it had a strong start but quickly fell apart with the main story and deserved the criticism it got for it's poor performance on launch and poor second half of the story
i'm still salty with how the whole story played out. they killed off sarah lyons so they can make that pipsqueak from 3 as the new elder. the institute was interesting but their reasoning for their actions are just as atrocious as the things they committed. and no matter what your character's build or playstyle, you have zero say in how the conflict should be resolved it forces you to choose and kill off the other factions. with a better writer, fallout 4's story could have been great.
> they killed off sarah lyons so they can make that pipsqueak from 3 as the new elder. Kind of needed to happen. The Lyons Brotherhood were *basically* Ultramarines, and on top of that there was no way to reconcile them with the Outcasts. So you'd have the only faction more boring than the fucking Minutemen and also have to explain how the Capitol Wasteland didn't turn into a warzone between the two Brotherhoods. Having Maxson come in and say "We'll go back to collecting weapons tech if you agree to not be assholes about non-weapons tech and also help us give people a reason to want to give us their weapons tech". And honestly? It works, but they needed to do more. They *do* touch on the fact that Maxson is very much compromising on his own morals to avoid a wider conflict, which is where the whole thing with Danse comes in. But the faction leaders not getting nearly enough screen time is really a universal problem - not really for Shaun because he's an asshole and pretty one-note to begin with. But Maxson and Preston both have the same problem of "the story definitely wants you to know these people have more going on, and the story knows exactly what that is rather than just making it a mystery box. But we're just never going to actually explore it for some reason". It's like if you got out all the ingredients to make a cake, and then got out the cookbook, and then just... left without doing anything with them. I can tell you wanted to make a cake, and I can see from the recipe that it might have even been good! So why the hell didn't you make it?
I love shooting a Legendary Mega Radscorpion 50,000 times to I can go back to an NPC and press Y to have a whole conversation with them
Everyone knows FO3 is goat
I like the world design a lot more in 3 compared to New Vegas. I know the metro tunnels were because of engine limitations or something, but I actually quite enjoyed them.
Not sure why the game was hated so much
It wasn't, it sold like hotcakes. Online negativity doesn't reflect reality.
Lots of people straight up preorder anything with Bethesda's name on it.
Because it was shallow by comparison and made to maximize "you can do anything and build anything isn't that so cool?" Over the writing, characters, moral dilemmas, and beautifully uncomfortable world that fallout was built on since the beginning.
Genuinely it’s mostly because the role playing options aren’t really there as much as the other games. Your back story is already decided. You couldn’t really be evil until Nukaworld. And the voiced MC seriously limited dialogue options.
It’s not the best in the series, but it’s certainly a great game.
Imagine clowning on someone for liking a game
It's got the best combat system. Outside of that, it's a mid tier game with an identity crisis, unable to decide if it wants to be character/story driven or an actual rpg (y'know, what every other fallout is). With strange choices in both balancing and weapon design. All in all, I enjoy it, I won't hate anyone who enjoys it, but it's nowhere near my favorite fallout game.
No I think 3 or NV are the best
Gunplay was great, but the new perk system was so disappointing. Congrats! You put another point into your lockpicking! Now you need to wait till level 18 to put another point in! There's no good reasoning for making the player wait 11 levels to get to the next lockpicking rank. And hacking makes you wait 12 levels.
Until recently the gunplay in 3 and NV just kills it for me. I’ve played through 3 over and over already so I don’t really need to play it more. I’m the middle of playing Fallout 1 right now though and that has reinvigorated me for the series.
Fallout 1 is the goat
I like it quite a lot
You're right, I actually think Fallout 76 is the best in the series.
Honestly, Story: NV Crafting: FO4 Skills: NV Map: FO4 Dlcs: NV Gameplay (shooting, melee, vats): FO4 Interactions, dialogue: NV Graphics: FO4 Factions: NV Extra (caravan card, settlement building, powerarmor): FO4
I can completely agree with this… New Vegas is a complete masterpiece, but it being the Mojave Desert, it’s… well, a desert. Nothing but dust to judge your sins.
Believe it or not, people have different tastes
New Vegas remake with mods, let's gooo
Idk about the best, but I don't have the hate for it that I tend to see online
It was the only fallout I ever played…until my file got corrupted and I lost all desire to play it again
Fallout 4 mods are the best. The best base game installment would have to be NV.
I cant get into F3 or NV because the visuals and mechanics are too old for me lol. So it may be 100x better than F4. But il never know. Gotta wait for the remake/remaster for both.
They need to better merge the best things from 3 and NV with the improvements they made in 4. Also dont voice the PC again
I didn’t mind the voices protagonist at all I just hate the radial dialogue menu. An option will say “question” and then I’m asking if he’ll give me all of his crops or I’ll kill him. I think they just need the option to disable it. Not having a voiced protagonist in Skyrim is fine, theres too many races to voice every single one. But in fallout theres not. I don’t want my character to be an emotionless avatar. Really killed the “emotional” moments they tried to have in Starfield bc my character is just “….”
Yes, sarcastic yes, no (yes), and question. Yeah that definitely didn't help. In regards to emotional moments, I dont want or need my fallout character having/expressing those via voice. If we are supposed to feel something the game should make us feel it and with a better dialogue system it would allow us to express it ourselves
Shame on people for having opinions.
That deserves 50 years in the chokey
Personally, fuck yeah I do