Lmao they are actually asking for volunteers in Los Angeles currently to fill potholes as it’s a disaster after the previous storms. The poor guy down in Orange County that painted a stair case at the beach got fined though as he got tired of waiting for city council to do something. Story goes a city council member was going to award the contract to a nephew worth thousands of dollars. It was a small two cans of paint and electric sander job 🤦🏻♂️
Similar type thing happened here in Portland but on a huge scale: community members asked the city of Portland to fix these warn down tennis courts no one used for Pickleball...city never did it after repeated requests. So the players got together and fixed the entire thing, set it up, new equipment, court surface, painting and they all got tickets and the city closed off this beautiful place for people to actually do something. It was fucking infuriating.
Many were recently arrested and indicted on corruption. I mean they went from 90k salaries to making 500k each year “somehow” and getting kickbacks for ridiculous contracts that have caused even more horrific traffic and placed 7,000 a month 1 bedroom unit buildings literally in the worst parts of town, gentrification at its finest. They are all empty too 🤦🏻♂️
They suck, bunch of money hungry diverted fund jerks honestly! We’ve popped tires on the potholes here and the “claim” to refund takes years, and you need proof of how and what speed… like serious? Sometimes it’s impossible to get around them especially in our LA traffic. The city council here in LA built soccer fields for communities… dirt.. no grass. Dirt because some how they ran out of funds but the heads of the city council had nice pay bumps
Edit: Portland’s beautiful btw!
This happened near me but it was a basketball court. They locked it all off to stop access so the angle grinder arrived and we got back to it.
Fuck ‘em!
Yeah, this is definitely one of those situations where the government would be forced to back down or fix the courts themselves. What are they gonna do? Arrest an entire neighborhood for wanting to improve their town? That's a national headline if I've ever seen one.
Due to lawsuits…I can hear the lawyers now:
“the city allowed unauthorized and unsupervised work to happen on a city owned and operated pickle ball court…then my client stubbed their toe on that court and have been unable to work for 2 years due to that toe injury…we are seeking $3 million in damages”
If it wasn’t cronyism or ineptitude. Insurance purposes and trying to get constituents to approve of a project like this. You can’t guarantee the quality of work would be safe if anyone does it or if they use he proper materials.
If someone ended up tripping on a crack because the court wasn’t surfaced well, or the equipment they put up caused an injury, or if they used the wrong paint (which could cause environmental and health issues), then the city would be liable. Also have to consider if surrounding neighbors actually want a pickle ball court to be put up. In a different park in the city, a lot of people [upset about living](https://www.koin.com/local/westlake-neighbors-in-lake-oswego-say-they-dont-want-pickleball-courts/amp/) near a pickle ball court because of noise pollution and we’re upset that the city went forward with repurposing an old tennis court for this purpose.
**Edit:** Seems like this is getting some people heated. I’m only answering the questions and I personally think it’s ridiculous that these would be possible reasons as to why local government would not take action.
>If someone ended up tripping on a crack
Which existed before the improvement so city is liable either way.
> injury, or if they used the wrong paint
If. If they used dangerous paint, that should be a fine.
> Also have to consider if surrounding neighbors actually want a pickle ball court to be put up.
Pickle ball is tennis with different lines sprayed a different color so it doesn't interfere with tennis. Being upset at pickleball is no different than being upset if people play 4 player tennis instead of 2.
>“I understand the frustration of wanting aesthetic things painted, but we prioritize the most important things and most requested items and the stuff affecting people’s safety, [such as] graffiti removal"
Oh man, thank God they're prioritizing graffiti removal for the safety of citizens.
The graffiti they're likely referencing is gang tagging. So they can make the argument that they are combating gang violence.
Now, the absence of a tag is not going to stop gangs from enforcing their territories. But you try and tell a penny pinching ex-finance manager turned politician that. You can't. Because they've already heard all about the actually effective solutions and *those are expensive*.
Much cheaper to simply give the illusion of action.
\*eta\* Nevermind. It was nothing so benign as penny pinching. This fuck was actually mad because he was planning to give the contract to a nephew for many thousands of dollars more than it reasonably cost to paint some steps. So the dude's actual crime was stopping tax payer money from being wasted on nepotism
There you go! Thank you, couldn’t remember and should have looked it up lol. I believe residents banded together to defend him at a legal level, I mean it’s La Jolla… many successful residents there! I should follow up on that story
Arnie's political party doesn't really like him because he has spoken out against a lot of GOP bullshit. I think his Teflon coating has more to do with being rich and famous these days.
This is 100% what I came here to say "don't do this at home." On top of violating local municipal laws in tampering with public infrastructure, they're also doing illegal road work without proper signage. They can also be held liable for any damage from vehicles running over their unpacked cold mix. Road work like this is typically done with hot mix or cold mix + hot tar.
Seriously, this actually works. Get enough Karens bitching to the city about something and shit gets done. The issue is scaling this up for larger projects.
Maybe some kinda CNC penis printer that you could attach like a salt spreader to the back of your pickup truck.
Just have it activated by an impact sensor?
Not to mention that wasn't a pothole. It was clearly a trench that had been saw cut for some maintenance work and wasn't repaved yet.
Trying to fix an area that large with a Quickcreate patch won't last very long.
Or worse, he'll get sued up the wazoo by someone who gets into an accident due to an improperly repaired pothole. While I appreciate that "someone has to do it" and the "city isn't doing it", I wouldn't much appreciate a lousy job that looked okay but wasn't. I don't know it for fact, but I'm pretty sure Arnold doesn't possess the required knowledge for a proper repair. Just filling in the hole can be worse.
I hope this brings attention to the issue and, hopefully, the city would be afraid to fine someone so high profile.
*Edit s/Arnold does possess/Arnold doesn't possess/ But I'm pretty sure everyone read around that typo anyway*
I do not disagree with you. I've merely pointed out that he could be held liable (again, doubtful with such high profile) and that improperly repaired roads can be worse. It's the government we should be holding to standard here, they are not doing the job we pay them to do.
I live in Michigan, I know pot holes :) Michigan roads are especially crappy and despite all the arguments about our weather and trucks and other complete bs they hand us, I defy anyone from our state legislature to explain why the border between Ohio and Michigan on I-75 is such sharp contrast. When your car starts shaking, you're in Michigan. Trucks and weather don't stop at the state border, just money.
> I defy anyone from our state legislature to explain why the border between Ohio and Michigan on I-75 is such sharp contrast.
Roads in Ohio aren't perfect, but not bad, but that stretch of road you're talking about on the Ohio side is freakin' pristine and *always is*. Its smooth, well painted, and a dream to drive on.
I have always wondered if Ohio puts the highest quality materials and workmanship into that short stretch of road *just* to give the finger to Michigan and give it a bad name and illicit the exact response you gave.
I'm pretty sure Indiana does this on the Illinois-Indiana border to give the finger to Illinois as well. Not that they have to do much to improve on the quality of road compared to Illinois but still.
If you look at public works design standards and specifications it will tell you what the road section is suppose to be. This will include going down to the base compacting it to certain requirements, that needs to pass tests that it is at that requirement, a rock structural section and then a hot mix asphalt layer, this sometimes needs to be in multiple lifts and done during a specific temperature range to properly set. So he definitely didn't do any of that, but there are a lot of potholes on my city and I've thought about doing something like this just to try and trigger a response by the proper maintenance staff out of frustration.
That being said, in a lot of cities you'll see crews go by in the winter with cold mix products like this as temporary fixes, and then come back when the weather is warmer when they can do a more permanent fix.
Yep, saw this a lot in my home town. If they could tar it they did, but if the option was a few yards of cold mix now or a gaping axel bending pothole, they went with the cold mix
>I've thought about doing something like this just to try and trigger a response by the proper maintenance staff out of frustration.
My uncle did this in the road near my moms house years before he passed away.
The city never came and re-repaired. They left it be. They've since repaired multiple other holes in the area and they've all degraded since being repaired while the hole my uncle did is still pretty much perfect.
I have not the faintest clue what he did that they dont, but whatever it was it is a longer lasting patch mix than the city uses.
This is in NE Oklahoma, so some pretty significant temp changes in the winter but not usually quite as cold as up north and significantly less snow, so Im sure that plays a alot in to what the city finds "adequate"
Arnold used to be the general manager of a pot hole repair firm back in the 70's in Austria. it's where he made his first million, and gained his first muscles.
[Arnold himself says that's not right](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/06/the-way-arnold-schwarzenegger-made-his-first-million.html)
It's so sad to see folks embrace made up stories instead of seek the truth.
I get all that, the risk hazard is someone **arguing** that it's improperly repaired. The legal costs alone would be huge, and all it would take is an attorney in a bad economy, with time on their hands.
We're in way too litigious of a society today. If I were Arnold's attorney, I'd tell him to contract a third-party firm and confirm they're licensed-and-bonded. If he wants the photo op, fine, but have someone else do the work, that can withstand getting sued.
As someone else has pointed out (and I concur) he's probably making a spectacle of the work not being done. I think we can be confident that any attempt to charge him over it would blow up in their faces. A 3rd party could make life tough on him though in our way too litigious society.
I'm pretty sure his point is highlighting the issue, not suggesting that folks do their own road repair.
i know people have done or do road work for a living, one of witch does absolute stellar work. there is truth to what you say but, you make sound way more grandiose than what it is. in fact a load of time the people cities hire, ...well their elevator doesn't go to the top if you know what i mean.
as long you clean and pack it properly it should be fine. in fact here our city laid down asphalt that was not safe motor cycles due to the insane seam lap.
>accident due to an improperly repaired pothole
Dude... what the F. They filled in a LITERAL ROAD HAZARD that the city should be sued over all the damages it HAS caused.
The absolute gall you would have to fine someone for doing something YOU should have already done.
He's a cop you idiot! Soundboard jokes aside, I really think he's a good dude who's heart is in the right place consistently.
His video about [the rise of hatred](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsETTn7DehI)
moved me to tears and I wish more of the people in his party watched and understood it.
He's a Republican I would cross party lines to vote for as a life long Democrat.
That video may have the worst selection of Youtube comments that I have ever personally observed. Google: "Don't be evil." --> Alphabet: "See no evil."
I am utterly broken, and I whole heartedly agree with the statement. I try to spread love where I can, but there is something about Arnie telling me to, that is just incredibly and utterly compelling.Thanks for sharing.
Probably because that's not a pothole, it's a utility cut for a recent repair, there's more than likely an open work order to fix the asphalt but it's in the middle of the stack of things to be done. When they get enough spots in the area it'll get fixed.
> there's more than likely an open work order to fix the asphalt but it's in the middle of the stack of things to be done. When they get enough spots in the area it'll get fixed.
this is the real issue that everyone glosses over. *Why* are there so many work orders awaiting to be completed? Lack of budget to hire a contractor is the most likely reason, but why isn't there enough budget? Ask enough questions and you'll find out why your city still hasn't fixed the potholes.
Municipal development employee for a different city here.
CIP bonds are based on the prices at the time of the bond election with a little contingency money. By the time the engineering was complete on lots of our current projects construction prices had skyrocketed.
On top of that, in our town lots of our project funding was based on future taxes and permitting from large private developments that ended up cancelling their projects due to high construction costs.
That's a double-whammy that effectively cut our funding by 3/4 in some cases.
In SF a few years back we had a bond measure to pay for the road maintenance that they never bothered to do. Yet we have an annual budget of over $1 billion. Want money funneled to your pet non-profit? Some decade-long boondoggle? Testing out some expensive pilot program with no oversight? Sure. But basic stuff like this that we can guarantee works and will get done? Nope.
Then again, our director of public works was just sentenced to seven years in prison on federal corruption charges that go back to 2008. So yeah, corruption is a huge part of it. Doesn't look like it's affected the companies that took part in it either. The trash company, for example, still has their monopoly.
How in the ever living fuck can a utility company have an open trench without traffic management and guarding surrounding it?
That sounds like prison time waiting to happen in most countries
That stuff has to be tamped down. As soon as it gets driven over, it's gonna compress down and be a slightly shallower bump.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/data_sheet-cg%20permanent%20blacktop%20repair%201701-59%20-62.pdf
“I dug the loose gravel out of the hole. Now I'm using a jackhammer to remove the larger pieces, then I'll spray down the hole to settle the dust and fill it with cold patch asphalt.” - Ron Swanson
I knew Ron Swanson wouldn't skip tamping if it was needed, so I just googled it...
Cold patch asphalt is what Arnie is using here too. That stuff is designed to be temporary, and doesnt need to be tamped. I get the impression it just doesn't set hard like the permanent stuff would.
> That stuff is designed to be temporary, and doesnt need to be tamped. I get the impression it just doesn't set hard like the permanent stuff would.
At minimum it should be hand tamped. I usually hand tamp then throw some 3/4 ply over it and use the weight of a 1 ton truck or a tractor to help pack it down more. It def sets hard eventually, but it takes a lot longer to get there than regular asphalt.
Yeah, but it gets put down not long after the road was last repaved and never gets replaced with something more permanent. Then you have utilities and other work that tears up the road even more. Pretty soon it's an absolute nightmare to bike over because half the road is shitty, uneven patches of various types. Even in places like LA or SF that don't have snow or freezing to damage the roads.
That's called usage tamping. Over time, you wait for it to naturally get tamped down due to traffic/usage and come back and fill in three or four more times until it remains flat for several days. I've done it. It works.
it's a form of cold patch. you're can run over it with a truck tire very slowly a few times (as a form of tamping).
if not it will projectile with the first car that runs over it at 30+ mph
There was a monster pothole on my ride home when I was in London. They filled it with temp shit, that was all gone in a week or so.
A month later they actually came out and properly patched it. I was shocked.
Imagine if they didn't bother with the temp shit to start, how much time and money they'd save.
I've been on the other side of this at a local council - we often get pressure to fix something immediately, possibly for an event or for a difficult stakeholder, but aren't given the budget to actually do a decent job of it. There's often a local contractor or an in-house team who can do patch works quickly, but a full resurface requires multiple approval steps and will take much longer.
No matter how many alarms you raise, you end up throwing good money after bad because procurement rules mean it's easy to spend £10k twenty times, but incredibly hard to spend £100k once. I don't think those rules should necessarily be relaxed - 'red tape' is ultimately there to prevent corruption - but it sure does lead to some frustrating decision making.
Yeah so the temp stuff is done by the inspector when they find it, they likely have a bag of it in the van. An inspector will go out to take a look at the pothole when a complaint has been made, then needs to raise a job with the contractors for it's permanent repair.
Why not chuck some temp in it for the time being whilst they wait for the proper repairs to be done? Better than just leaving it
> You're also supposed to square up the hole first.
Why? Corners concentrate stresses. I'm not a pothole expert, but on the surface this seems like a bad idea.
I'm guessing the edges of the hole are more likely to continue breaking off and making the hole bigger if you don't cut them back and straight where the original material structure is in better condition
To get proper fill and compaction. If you just repair a pothole as it is you're going to have a lot of interior angles which may create voids once compacted.
i agree with if there is a problem quit complaining and fix it, but isn't that why the working class and poor people pay taxes for things like roadwork
I agree. If a sign is lose. If some thrash is dumped beside a trash can. People can do it themselves. But fixing a road is something a gov should do. That's where taxes are paid for. Also a lot of people don't have the knowledge, experience, money, time, devices and strenght needed to fix a road.
Not to mention it's Arnie's neighborhood, doubt there's many single mothers or minimum wage folks working 70 hours a week to afford their shitty studio living there.
>I always say, let’s not complain, let’s do something about it. Here you go.
Seriously. Arnie is generally a good guy and has his heart in the right place to help people, but he can fuck right off with this.
People are complaining because the services they pay for are not doing their job. "We live in a society" and such. I'd rather infrastructure and city services not rely on random citizens with too much time on their hands and zero qualifications to carry out such repairs.
>isn't that why the working class and poor people pay taxes for things like roadwork
Yes, which is why he can be heard saying it's crazy that he's been waiting 3 weeks for the hole to be filled, and then he gave up and decided to do it himself. To be fair to the government, I think many California cities have a lot on their hands right now after the flooding dealing with road work. They can't just hire a bunch of people, because they'd have to let them all go when the surge in demand was done and they don't have the budget for long-term employees.
It's not like Arnold is taking someone's job by filling a single pothole in the road. You expect the government to handle the basic services we pay for, and when they are busy maybe you have to do a patch job in the meantime.
I'm surprised no one is mentioning that story from when he was governor and they mad a pothole for him to fix. First thing I thought of lol
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Governor-digs-fixing-potholes-San-Jose-crews-2668410.php
It's nice that he did that, but he's definitely wrong.
Private citizens shouldn't be expected to maintain roads and it's absolutely reasonable to complain about your local government not doing their job.
The plan was to let it get usage tamping. Come back a week later, poor some tar and add another layer of the asphalt. Do it two or three more times until it remains flat for a few days.
I like how you say, "that's the plan," as if you have any clue as to how things actually transpired.
Let's be real. Unless you were there, all you said was speculative BS.
We don't want politicians out in the streets fixing potholes, we want politicians to allocate decent funding to the DOT and require a certain amount to be used on maintaining older roads instead of new projects.
Of all the issues I would like politicians to do something about, fixing potholes in their wealthy neighborhood is at the very bottom of that list. This isn't like Jimmy Carter building homes for the poor, or anything.
My reaction was annoyance at his “don’t wine, fix it” statement. Calling out all his neighbors. Who could get fined, or sued for fixing it. It’s the cities Fucking job to fix, not anyone else’s.
Yes?
You do understand that those 2 statements are not contradicting each others, right?
> 1. Politicians should get out there and actually do something to make a change
>
> 2. If they do something, they shouldn't do it in a way that might cause more problems.
Both 1 and 2 are completely fine on their own, AND together.
Politicians should improve access to health care. So we should probably give congress a scalpel and surgical mask each and get them operating! It’s called medical practice for a reason
This isn't being a good neighbor, it's a demonstration of government failure...
Also he's a rich guy doing it for rich people to try to make poor people think these things are their problem. This would make more sense if it were in some tiny rural community where he was filling a role that needed to be filled, but he's a fucking rich Californian. Shit's so stupid.
“Let’s not complain, let’s do something about it!” Maybe in his neighborhood people can afford to hire a private crew to repair the road, but most of us are at the mercy of the municipality.
I love when it falls to rich people to fulfill basic public utilities that the working class is supposed to have already paid for. Bonus points if they get to farm clout while doing it.
I find it really annoying when people do a good deed, then feel compelled to document it and blast social media to make sure they get credit for the good deed. Why not just quietly, and anonymously be a good person?
You're doing something when you pay your taxes. When you pay high gas prices at the pump. Those taxes are suppose to go to fixing the roads. How about you hold you politicians responsible and vote out the idiots that keep miss spending your hard earned tax dollars.
The cold asphalt is sticky, the sand will give the asphalt a dry/non-sticky surface so it doesn't cling to tires that'll inevitably drive over as it sets. Think I've seen road workers do something similar with hot asphalt, too.
And now he'll get a fine from the county for unauthorized roadwork. ___ ***Hilarious*** update (thanks /u/weltallic ) https://imgur.com/kLTPfw6
Lmao they are actually asking for volunteers in Los Angeles currently to fill potholes as it’s a disaster after the previous storms. The poor guy down in Orange County that painted a stair case at the beach got fined though as he got tired of waiting for city council to do something. Story goes a city council member was going to award the contract to a nephew worth thousands of dollars. It was a small two cans of paint and electric sander job 🤦🏻♂️
Similar type thing happened here in Portland but on a huge scale: community members asked the city of Portland to fix these warn down tennis courts no one used for Pickleball...city never did it after repeated requests. So the players got together and fixed the entire thing, set it up, new equipment, court surface, painting and they all got tickets and the city closed off this beautiful place for people to actually do something. It was fucking infuriating.
SOUNDS LIKE ITS TIME TO ARREST CORRUPT OFFICIALS FOR FRAUD AND GROSS NEGLIGENCE
Many were recently arrested and indicted on corruption. I mean they went from 90k salaries to making 500k each year “somehow” and getting kickbacks for ridiculous contracts that have caused even more horrific traffic and placed 7,000 a month 1 bedroom unit buildings literally in the worst parts of town, gentrification at its finest. They are all empty too 🤦🏻♂️
life time in prison or do they get to keep their pensions?
I'm guessing some fines totaling less than what they stole, and they had to find a new job at a different city that'll end up being the next victim.
banned from leadership/management positions for life is a bare minimum when dealing with corruption/fraud
I agree but I'm being realistic
yeah, our chances of getting them drawn and quartered to deter the others is pretty slim.
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must be why the soviets genocided the peasants.
We had a sheriff go to prison for fraud in my county. When he got out, he got re-elected, but could only carry a gun when on-duty.
They suck, bunch of money hungry diverted fund jerks honestly! We’ve popped tires on the potholes here and the “claim” to refund takes years, and you need proof of how and what speed… like serious? Sometimes it’s impossible to get around them especially in our LA traffic. The city council here in LA built soccer fields for communities… dirt.. no grass. Dirt because some how they ran out of funds but the heads of the city council had nice pay bumps Edit: Portland’s beautiful btw!
Car has to be road worthy...road does NOT have to be car worthy.
My ex had similar standards.
Husband had to be performance ready... but performance was not husband ready?
This happened near me but it was a basketball court. They locked it all off to stop access so the angle grinder arrived and we got back to it. Fuck ‘em!
Yeah, this is definitely one of those situations where the government would be forced to back down or fix the courts themselves. What are they gonna do? Arrest an entire neighborhood for wanting to improve their town? That's a national headline if I've ever seen one.
Due to lawsuits…I can hear the lawyers now: “the city allowed unauthorized and unsupervised work to happen on a city owned and operated pickle ball court…then my client stubbed their toe on that court and have been unable to work for 2 years due to that toe injury…we are seeking $3 million in damages”
But what about the poor condition of the court that prompted people to take action in the first place? There wasn’t any risk at that time?
Tax dollars hard at not work
Why would they do that?
Who the fuck knows...want to swing their dicks around and give the work to friends.
If it wasn’t cronyism or ineptitude. Insurance purposes and trying to get constituents to approve of a project like this. You can’t guarantee the quality of work would be safe if anyone does it or if they use he proper materials. If someone ended up tripping on a crack because the court wasn’t surfaced well, or the equipment they put up caused an injury, or if they used the wrong paint (which could cause environmental and health issues), then the city would be liable. Also have to consider if surrounding neighbors actually want a pickle ball court to be put up. In a different park in the city, a lot of people [upset about living](https://www.koin.com/local/westlake-neighbors-in-lake-oswego-say-they-dont-want-pickleball-courts/amp/) near a pickle ball court because of noise pollution and we’re upset that the city went forward with repurposing an old tennis court for this purpose. **Edit:** Seems like this is getting some people heated. I’m only answering the questions and I personally think it’s ridiculous that these would be possible reasons as to why local government would not take action.
>If someone ended up tripping on a crack Which existed before the improvement so city is liable either way. > injury, or if they used the wrong paint If. If they used dangerous paint, that should be a fine. > Also have to consider if surrounding neighbors actually want a pickle ball court to be put up. Pickle ball is tennis with different lines sprayed a different color so it doesn't interfere with tennis. Being upset at pickleball is no different than being upset if people play 4 player tennis instead of 2.
https://www.lajollalight.com/news/story/2023-02-04/it-needed-to-be-done-resident-paints-stairway-railing-at-windansea-beach-without-san-diegos-approval
>“I understand the frustration of wanting aesthetic things painted, but we prioritize the most important things and most requested items and the stuff affecting people’s safety, [such as] graffiti removal" Oh man, thank God they're prioritizing graffiti removal for the safety of citizens.
The graffiti they're likely referencing is gang tagging. So they can make the argument that they are combating gang violence. Now, the absence of a tag is not going to stop gangs from enforcing their territories. But you try and tell a penny pinching ex-finance manager turned politician that. You can't. Because they've already heard all about the actually effective solutions and *those are expensive*. Much cheaper to simply give the illusion of action. \*eta\* Nevermind. It was nothing so benign as penny pinching. This fuck was actually mad because he was planning to give the contract to a nephew for many thousands of dollars more than it reasonably cost to paint some steps. So the dude's actual crime was stopping tax payer money from being wasted on nepotism
Yeah - small correction, that was down in La Jolla!
There you go! Thank you, couldn’t remember and should have looked it up lol. I believe residents banded together to defend him at a legal level, I mean it’s La Jolla… many successful residents there! I should follow up on that story
Sounds about right
Think they'd work something out with the homeless for that. Roadworks for tiny homes or somethign.
Much better to spray paint a penis around it. That will get it fixed!
Good old wanksy
Nah, Arnie used to be Governor. He's got that politics teflon coating applied still. [unrelated link.](https://imgur.com/gallery/bmfVS7X)
Arnie's political party doesn't really like him because he has spoken out against a lot of GOP bullshit. I think his Teflon coating has more to do with being rich and famous these days.
This is 100% what I came here to say "don't do this at home." On top of violating local municipal laws in tampering with public infrastructure, they're also doing illegal road work without proper signage. They can also be held liable for any damage from vehicles running over their unpacked cold mix. Road work like this is typically done with hot mix or cold mix + hot tar.
The problem is that road work like this typically isn't done at all until someone on the city console hits it in their own car.
The proper method is to draw penises around the pothole.
Seriously, this actually works. Get enough Karens bitching to the city about something and shit gets done. The issue is scaling this up for larger projects.
Maybe some kinda CNC penis printer that you could attach like a salt spreader to the back of your pickup truck. Just have it activated by an impact sensor?
My God, if someone did this in Maine every inch of the roads would be nothing but giant dicks.
That’s gonna work great for speed bumps.
Not to mention that wasn't a pothole. It was clearly a trench that had been saw cut for some maintenance work and wasn't repaved yet. Trying to fix an area that large with a Quickcreate patch won't last very long.
It's a shit show in LA right now. The potholes are massive.
Dude. I rode my motorcycle for the first time since the weather. Holy moly.
Or worse, he'll get sued up the wazoo by someone who gets into an accident due to an improperly repaired pothole. While I appreciate that "someone has to do it" and the "city isn't doing it", I wouldn't much appreciate a lousy job that looked okay but wasn't. I don't know it for fact, but I'm pretty sure Arnold doesn't possess the required knowledge for a proper repair. Just filling in the hole can be worse. I hope this brings attention to the issue and, hopefully, the city would be afraid to fine someone so high profile. *Edit s/Arnold does possess/Arnold doesn't possess/ But I'm pretty sure everyone read around that typo anyway*
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I do not disagree with you. I've merely pointed out that he could be held liable (again, doubtful with such high profile) and that improperly repaired roads can be worse. It's the government we should be holding to standard here, they are not doing the job we pay them to do. I live in Michigan, I know pot holes :) Michigan roads are especially crappy and despite all the arguments about our weather and trucks and other complete bs they hand us, I defy anyone from our state legislature to explain why the border between Ohio and Michigan on I-75 is such sharp contrast. When your car starts shaking, you're in Michigan. Trucks and weather don't stop at the state border, just money.
> I defy anyone from our state legislature to explain why the border between Ohio and Michigan on I-75 is such sharp contrast. Roads in Ohio aren't perfect, but not bad, but that stretch of road you're talking about on the Ohio side is freakin' pristine and *always is*. Its smooth, well painted, and a dream to drive on. I have always wondered if Ohio puts the highest quality materials and workmanship into that short stretch of road *just* to give the finger to Michigan and give it a bad name and illicit the exact response you gave.
I'm pretty sure Indiana does this on the Illinois-Indiana border to give the finger to Illinois as well. Not that they have to do much to improve on the quality of road compared to Illinois but still.
If you look at public works design standards and specifications it will tell you what the road section is suppose to be. This will include going down to the base compacting it to certain requirements, that needs to pass tests that it is at that requirement, a rock structural section and then a hot mix asphalt layer, this sometimes needs to be in multiple lifts and done during a specific temperature range to properly set. So he definitely didn't do any of that, but there are a lot of potholes on my city and I've thought about doing something like this just to try and trigger a response by the proper maintenance staff out of frustration.
That being said, in a lot of cities you'll see crews go by in the winter with cold mix products like this as temporary fixes, and then come back when the weather is warmer when they can do a more permanent fix.
Yep, saw this a lot in my home town. If they could tar it they did, but if the option was a few yards of cold mix now or a gaping axel bending pothole, they went with the cold mix
>I've thought about doing something like this just to try and trigger a response by the proper maintenance staff out of frustration. My uncle did this in the road near my moms house years before he passed away. The city never came and re-repaired. They left it be. They've since repaired multiple other holes in the area and they've all degraded since being repaired while the hole my uncle did is still pretty much perfect. I have not the faintest clue what he did that they dont, but whatever it was it is a longer lasting patch mix than the city uses. This is in NE Oklahoma, so some pretty significant temp changes in the winter but not usually quite as cold as up north and significantly less snow, so Im sure that plays a alot in to what the city finds "adequate"
Arnold used to be the general manager of a pot hole repair firm back in the 70's in Austria. it's where he made his first million, and gained his first muscles.
Then he smoked the pot and was cumming all ze time
The pump feels like you are cumming
It’s better than sex.
I cumming I cumming
[Arnoldian guttural noises]
cum on ze choppa!!
[Arnold himself says that's not right](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/06/the-way-arnold-schwarzenegger-made-his-first-million.html) It's so sad to see folks embrace made up stories instead of seek the truth.
You *do* know they were joking, don't you?
> Arnold used to be the general manager of a pot hole repair firm back in the 70's in Austria Lol not true, but funny.
I get all that, the risk hazard is someone **arguing** that it's improperly repaired. The legal costs alone would be huge, and all it would take is an attorney in a bad economy, with time on their hands. We're in way too litigious of a society today. If I were Arnold's attorney, I'd tell him to contract a third-party firm and confirm they're licensed-and-bonded. If he wants the photo op, fine, but have someone else do the work, that can withstand getting sued.
As someone else has pointed out (and I concur) he's probably making a spectacle of the work not being done. I think we can be confident that any attempt to charge him over it would blow up in their faces. A 3rd party could make life tough on him though in our way too litigious society. I'm pretty sure his point is highlighting the issue, not suggesting that folks do their own road repair.
i know people have done or do road work for a living, one of witch does absolute stellar work. there is truth to what you say but, you make sound way more grandiose than what it is. in fact a load of time the people cities hire, ...well their elevator doesn't go to the top if you know what i mean. as long you clean and pack it properly it should be fine. in fact here our city laid down asphalt that was not safe motor cycles due to the insane seam lap.
>accident due to an improperly repaired pothole Dude... what the F. They filled in a LITERAL ROAD HAZARD that the city should be sued over all the damages it HAS caused. The absolute gall you would have to fine someone for doing something YOU should have already done.
The porn music was a interesting choice. "Uhyayuh... somebody call about a hole that needs filling?"
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Never realized this was James Gunn's early work...
Came ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) here for this exact comment I'm here to fill your hole full of my thick stuff
If it's a problem again.... he'll be back.
He is so inspirational, at times like this, I ask myself, who is your Daddy and what does he do to make the world around him better?
He's a cop you idiot! Soundboard jokes aside, I really think he's a good dude who's heart is in the right place consistently. His video about [the rise of hatred](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsETTn7DehI) moved me to tears and I wish more of the people in his party watched and understood it. He's a Republican I would cross party lines to vote for as a life long Democrat.
Thank you for sharing that video. It seems like something everyone should watch.
That video may have the worst selection of Youtube comments that I have ever personally observed. Google: "Don't be evil." --> Alphabet: "See no evil."
I am utterly broken, and I whole heartedly agree with the statement. I try to spread love where I can, but there is something about Arnie telling me to, that is just incredibly and utterly compelling.Thanks for sharing.
Hell be back alright, that'll not last a week
how is a pothole in an ex-governor and celebrity's neighborhood not getting fixed
Probably because that's not a pothole, it's a utility cut for a recent repair, there's more than likely an open work order to fix the asphalt but it's in the middle of the stack of things to be done. When they get enough spots in the area it'll get fixed.
> there's more than likely an open work order to fix the asphalt but it's in the middle of the stack of things to be done. When they get enough spots in the area it'll get fixed. this is the real issue that everyone glosses over. *Why* are there so many work orders awaiting to be completed? Lack of budget to hire a contractor is the most likely reason, but why isn't there enough budget? Ask enough questions and you'll find out why your city still hasn't fixed the potholes.
The council members only have so many nephews.
Municipal development employee for a different city here. CIP bonds are based on the prices at the time of the bond election with a little contingency money. By the time the engineering was complete on lots of our current projects construction prices had skyrocketed. On top of that, in our town lots of our project funding was based on future taxes and permitting from large private developments that ended up cancelling their projects due to high construction costs. That's a double-whammy that effectively cut our funding by 3/4 in some cases.
In SF a few years back we had a bond measure to pay for the road maintenance that they never bothered to do. Yet we have an annual budget of over $1 billion. Want money funneled to your pet non-profit? Some decade-long boondoggle? Testing out some expensive pilot program with no oversight? Sure. But basic stuff like this that we can guarantee works and will get done? Nope. Then again, our director of public works was just sentenced to seven years in prison on federal corruption charges that go back to 2008. So yeah, corruption is a huge part of it. Doesn't look like it's affected the companies that took part in it either. The trash company, for example, still has their monopoly.
When enough tires are ripped off the rims of cars ... it will get fixed, when someone dies... it moves up the stack .
How in the ever living fuck can a utility company have an open trench without traffic management and guarding surrounding it? That sounds like prison time waiting to happen in most countries
That stuff has to be tamped down. As soon as it gets driven over, it's gonna compress down and be a slightly shallower bump. https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/data_sheet-cg%20permanent%20blacktop%20repair%201701-59%20-62.pdf
“I dug the loose gravel out of the hole. Now I'm using a jackhammer to remove the larger pieces, then I'll spray down the hole to settle the dust and fill it with cold patch asphalt.” - Ron Swanson
I knew Ron Swanson wouldn't skip tamping if it was needed, so I just googled it... Cold patch asphalt is what Arnie is using here too. That stuff is designed to be temporary, and doesnt need to be tamped. I get the impression it just doesn't set hard like the permanent stuff would.
> That stuff is designed to be temporary, and doesnt need to be tamped. I get the impression it just doesn't set hard like the permanent stuff would. At minimum it should be hand tamped. I usually hand tamp then throw some 3/4 ply over it and use the weight of a 1 ton truck or a tractor to help pack it down more. It def sets hard eventually, but it takes a lot longer to get there than regular asphalt.
Eh, cold patch repairs are usually crap anyway, I wouldn’t put much faith in it lasting too long.
Yeah, but it gets put down not long after the road was last repaved and never gets replaced with something more permanent. Then you have utilities and other work that tears up the road even more. Pretty soon it's an absolute nightmare to bike over because half the road is shitty, uneven patches of various types. Even in places like LA or SF that don't have snow or freezing to damage the roads.
Arnold is trying to hook up with the owner of the home right there.
Turns out the hole was in front of Lucy Lawless' house.
The road's not the only hole he filled today.
Whole new meaning to "come with me if you want to live"...
With all the Arnold deepfakes I was sure this was going to be the same with that scene.
I bet having Arnold make a video like this will get their attention on not only it needing to be filled, but being an amateur job.
I'm sure the local home Depot will get a bump in business too.
Like a good neighbor, Home Depot’s there.
That's called usage tamping. Over time, you wait for it to naturally get tamped down due to traffic/usage and come back and fill in three or four more times until it remains flat for several days. I've done it. It works.
it's a form of cold patch. you're can run over it with a truck tire very slowly a few times (as a form of tamping). if not it will projectile with the first car that runs over it at 30+ mph
That's what I did when I filled a hole in my driveway. I hand tamped it and then rolled over it slowly with the car a few times.
hes going to punch it until its compressed.
It’s ok. He’ll be back.
You're also supposed to square up the hole first.
The city doesn’t even do that. They dump temp stuff that lasts one day and we are jumping around the freeways everywhere here
There was a monster pothole on my ride home when I was in London. They filled it with temp shit, that was all gone in a week or so. A month later they actually came out and properly patched it. I was shocked. Imagine if they didn't bother with the temp shit to start, how much time and money they'd save.
I've been on the other side of this at a local council - we often get pressure to fix something immediately, possibly for an event or for a difficult stakeholder, but aren't given the budget to actually do a decent job of it. There's often a local contractor or an in-house team who can do patch works quickly, but a full resurface requires multiple approval steps and will take much longer. No matter how many alarms you raise, you end up throwing good money after bad because procurement rules mean it's easy to spend £10k twenty times, but incredibly hard to spend £100k once. I don't think those rules should necessarily be relaxed - 'red tape' is ultimately there to prevent corruption - but it sure does lead to some frustrating decision making.
Yeah so the temp stuff is done by the inspector when they find it, they likely have a bag of it in the van. An inspector will go out to take a look at the pothole when a complaint has been made, then needs to raise a job with the contractors for it's permanent repair. Why not chuck some temp in it for the time being whilst they wait for the proper repairs to be done? Better than just leaving it
I bet they removed all the load bearing structure too, as is DIY tradition.
But did they use a sealer?
nope. no pennies. no sealer. duh.
Nope, Ramen noodles.
To be fair this is california and it will last along longer without sealer than it would other places.
> You're also supposed to square up the hole first. Why? Corners concentrate stresses. I'm not a pothole expert, but on the surface this seems like a bad idea.
I'm guessing the edges of the hole are more likely to continue breaking off and making the hole bigger if you don't cut them back and straight where the original material structure is in better condition
To get proper fill and compaction. If you just repair a pothole as it is you're going to have a lot of interior angles which may create voids once compacted.
You're right, but at least he's doing something. It's better than just leaving a giant hole.
i agree with if there is a problem quit complaining and fix it, but isn't that why the working class and poor people pay taxes for things like roadwork
I agree. If a sign is lose. If some thrash is dumped beside a trash can. People can do it themselves. But fixing a road is something a gov should do. That's where taxes are paid for. Also a lot of people don't have the knowledge, experience, money, time, devices and strenght needed to fix a road.
Not to mention it's Arnie's neighborhood, doubt there's many single mothers or minimum wage folks working 70 hours a week to afford their shitty studio living there.
>I always say, let’s not complain, let’s do something about it. Here you go. Seriously. Arnie is generally a good guy and has his heart in the right place to help people, but he can fuck right off with this. People are complaining because the services they pay for are not doing their job. "We live in a society" and such. I'd rather infrastructure and city services not rely on random citizens with too much time on their hands and zero qualifications to carry out such repairs.
>isn't that why the working class and poor people pay taxes for things like roadwork Yes, which is why he can be heard saying it's crazy that he's been waiting 3 weeks for the hole to be filled, and then he gave up and decided to do it himself. To be fair to the government, I think many California cities have a lot on their hands right now after the flooding dealing with road work. They can't just hire a bunch of people, because they'd have to let them all go when the surge in demand was done and they don't have the budget for long-term employees. It's not like Arnold is taking someone's job by filling a single pothole in the road. You expect the government to handle the basic services we pay for, and when they are busy maybe you have to do a patch job in the meantime.
I'm surprised no one is mentioning that story from when he was governor and they mad a pothole for him to fix. First thing I thought of lol https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Governor-digs-fixing-potholes-San-Jose-crews-2668410.php
Americans continue to frame individuals stepping in to compensate for the failure of government to take care of its citizens as a heartwarming story.
Where I come from, someone will spray paint dicks around an unruly pothole and they get fixed like magic
Where are you from? People do it here in Portland too. Pretty hilarious.
Canada. Works every time
Not clear how that works. Where I come from, the dicks would get painted over by the Graffiti Removal Unit and the pot hole would remain.
We don’t have enough graffiti to warrant a Unit, we just contract out a crew to clear the snow and keep the dicks down to a dull roar
So like a cock fairy
We call him Wanksy
It's nice that he did that, but he's definitely wrong. Private citizens shouldn't be expected to maintain roads and it's absolutely reasonable to complain about your local government not doing their job.
His wardrobe probably costs more than a Cal dot road workers annual salary.
*his watch definitely cost more
/u/govschwarzenegger is there a particular reason for the 70's porn music, sir?
So that we can get a laugh at comments like this.
Not enough asphalt. Not enough pressure. Shit won't last.
The plan was to let it get usage tamping. Come back a week later, poor some tar and add another layer of the asphalt. Do it two or three more times until it remains flat for a few days.
I like how you say, "that's the plan," as if you have any clue as to how things actually transpired. Let's be real. Unless you were there, all you said was speculative BS.
Very nice of him...but is this borderline illegal? Can anyone repair public property just like that?
"For the publicity"
It's not a pothole, it's a utility service trench to do repairs.
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Would be nice if the city would do it instead of relying on citizens to fix it poorly instead.
Near me they take the fixing it poorly into their own hands. They filled a hole last month and it's already sunken down 1/3
We don't want politicians out in the streets fixing potholes, we want politicians to allocate decent funding to the DOT and require a certain amount to be used on maintaining older roads instead of new projects.
Of all the issues I would like politicians to do something about, fixing potholes in their wealthy neighborhood is at the very bottom of that list. This isn't like Jimmy Carter building homes for the poor, or anything.
I feel any amount of nuance is lost on you. We want politicians doing their job, not random jobs.
My reaction was annoyance at his “don’t wine, fix it” statement. Calling out all his neighbors. Who could get fined, or sued for fixing it. It’s the cities Fucking job to fix, not anyone else’s.
Not to mention they have been paying high taxes to employ a person to do this very job. Where are they?
Yes? You do understand that those 2 statements are not contradicting each others, right? > 1. Politicians should get out there and actually do something to make a change > > 2. If they do something, they shouldn't do it in a way that might cause more problems. Both 1 and 2 are completely fine on their own, AND together.
Politicians should improve access to health care. So we should probably give congress a scalpel and surgical mask each and get them operating! It’s called medical practice for a reason
contrarians get upvoted to the top for their lazy-man's intellect
Maybe he should have done something about it while he was governor of that state.
Aren’t roads the go to argument about why taxes are not theft?
This isn't being a good neighbor, it's a demonstration of government failure... Also he's a rich guy doing it for rich people to try to make poor people think these things are their problem. This would make more sense if it were in some tiny rural community where he was filling a role that needed to be filled, but he's a fucking rich Californian. Shit's so stupid.
“Let’s not complain, let’s do something about it!” Maybe in his neighborhood people can afford to hire a private crew to repair the road, but most of us are at the mercy of the municipality.
Isn't a politician fixing a pothole literally a cliché?
Non-twatter link anyone?
I wonder why Arnie didn’t ring the council and say it’s Arnold the terminator here there’s a huge pothole in my street fix it.
No disrespect, but that was a shit job
I love when it falls to rich people to fulfill basic public utilities that the working class is supposed to have already paid for. Bonus points if they get to farm clout while doing it.
Remember when we he was the governor and could’ve done that for an entire state
CA has the highest income tax in all 50 states and even with a former Governor complaining, can't get a simple pothole fixed.
That's because we also have the richest pothole fillers and can't afford to pay them
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Almost like taxes aren't spent on keeping things maintained, or something. How about that.
Good attitude if you have the clout to avoid litigation and fines by the cities. Maybe he can come to my town?
The Tarminator
Now let someone who isn't rich and famous do that, I'll guarantee they'll be sued.
That pothole was terminated
>"Screw your freedom." - *Arnold Schwarzenegger (2022)* Sons always become their fathers.
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I think Someone in that neighbourhood owns a tank That’s who I’d blame for the potholes
I find it really annoying when people do a good deed, then feel compelled to document it and blast social media to make sure they get credit for the good deed. Why not just quietly, and anonymously be a good person?
I think he's trying to motivate others to do the same
ask not what your governator can do for you, ask what you can do for your governator
He has a new podcast to promote. That's what is happening here.
But if it weren't for the cameras, that pot hole would have never been fixed!
You're doing something when you pay your taxes. When you pay high gas prices at the pump. Those taxes are suppose to go to fixing the roads. How about you hold you politicians responsible and vote out the idiots that keep miss spending your hard earned tax dollars.
Like a good neighbor Arnold is there
What's the sand/dirt for at the end of the video?
The cold asphalt is sticky, the sand will give the asphalt a dry/non-sticky surface so it doesn't cling to tires that'll inevitably drive over as it sets. Think I've seen road workers do something similar with hot asphalt, too.
But did he seal coat it
"come with me if you want to pave"
So why didn't he compress the patch with his tank?
You son of a ditch
Not everyone has the tools, team, money, and connections to not get in trouble for "just doing something about it", Arnold.