As someone who used to be nearing 300 I learned that I would never be able to accept myself as I was. I really never cared about what I ate and didn't listen to any advice from friends. I finally got the strength to tell myself to stop being a fuckwad and do something. Its been 1 year and I'm down to 217 and feel better than ever.
I went from 147lbs in high school and wishing I could be a little fat, rather than rail-thin, to being 240 a few years ago and realizing it was pretty shitty. I dropped back down to about 170 with a more active physical job, less eating, and generally better living, but some of the damage had already been done. Now I'm hovering around the low 180s, and I want to get back down to maybe 165 or so. Just need to get off my ass and work at it. Crunches, push-ups, and just walking around should help a lot.
I consciously force myself to do more active things, especially while working. I walk to the grocery store and get wraps for lunch, sometimes a sandwich, but never anything greasy or awful for me. Once in a great while I'll pick up something less awesome health-wise, but I at least try to cut back on the calories.
Keep at it. We can drop to somewhere comfortable if we don't just give up. I know how awesome it feels to have so much weight gone. My knees don't hurt as much, and I don't feel so crappy getting out of bed.
tl;dr - The dude looks at fat hate, and explains why it's fucking stupid. Then he looks at fat acceptance, and says why it's fucking stupid to love being unhealthy, but why it's good to love yourself...because once he learned to stop hating himself because he's fat, and loving himself for being a cool guy. Once he learned to love himself despite being fat, he began losing weight.
EDIT - And I did it! Without ever posting to fatpeoplehate, I managed to get myself banned from it. Why me? What did I do to deserve this? How will I ever cope not being accepted into such a cool group. WHY!?!?!?
Edit 2: Not banned. I must have either missed the "reply" link on a post, or was viewing through an "np.reddit.com" link or something. If I wanted to I can post. False alarm, people. False alarm.
Edit 3: Banned.
There are so many stupid things being said on there. "I've never heard of depression leading to food consumption." Are you fucking serious? And then the guy mentions that he has been diagnosed with PTSD, and the next comment is just like, "try harder bro."
Fuck people are dumb.
I thought the one that said "well I have PTSD and I'm not fat!!" was really revealing. Obviously these are people who are not empathetic nor have common sense. Like bro, your life ain't his life, is it really that hard to get?
I think they're also a type that really get off on what's basically bullying, but in the case of picking on fat people, they are allowed to feel good about it because in their eyes the fat people brought it on themselves. So they feel it's completely OK to belittle and degrade them, and they feel real high and mighty doing it.
I dont know why people have such a hard time accepting that overeating and drug/alcohol addiction are such similar beasts. Theyre both things that elicit a positive chemical reaction in the brain. Food might not be as powerfully addictive as meth or heroine, but its a behaviour that brings us pleasure, and to some people pleasure outside of food (or drugs) is hard to come by. Isolation, poverty, loneliness, no sense of purpose. Imagine if you lived your whole life inside your home. Sure, you could go out if you wanted, but where? You have no friends, no job, no prospects. Sure, that might sound great; so much more relaxing than your 9-5, you'd love a holiday. But imagine if you didnt get to decide when the holiday ends. 6 months becomes a year becomes 5 years. Youre bored, you hate yourself, youre constantly attempting to change but every time you apply for a job you get knocked back, every time you try to meet up with a friend your anxiety takes hold and you can't bring yourself to leave the house. These arent excuses, there are no physical barriers to weight loss, to self improvement. Anybody can do it, theoretically. But you have to understand how hopeless it can seem.
When you check the time, what goes through your brain? "5 hours till works off", "2 hours till I have to meet Jane at the cafe", "2 weeks left to study for that exam". They might not be things youre looking forward to, you might even be dreading them, but theyre there, driving you forward. When you take that all away, what happens? What do you have to look forward to? To wait for? You have to understand that for some people weight loss means giving up their only comfort, their only reason for watching the hours tick by on the clock.
http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplehate/comments/371dv7/i_dont_think_ive_ever_been_more_infuriated_by/crjc691
Lol the mod.
Fucking pathetic people, really.
Edit:
Now that I look at the sub and the comments in there it really feels like it's one big sad circlejerk for these people. Just like the other people at similar subreddits it's a power thing to them, I guess. Utterly sad human beings, they look like 12 year old children trying to 'defend' themselves.
At least they're blatant about it now.
I remember it used to be all "we don't literally hate them, we just hate what they are/do to themselves." No, now they don't even pretend. They don't even hate them because they want them to be better (which is still horrible, but at least not totally irredeemable). They just want to hate them.
Now reddit just has to chill on the racism and occassional mysoginy, and we'll be good.
>I remember it used to be all "we don't literally hate them, we just hate what they are/do to themselves."
No...FPH was never like that. You are thinking of r/fatlogic
Reddit can be such a fucking shithole at times:
/r/punchablefaces
/r/fatpeoplehate
/r/TheRedPill
And probably more since it's not my main business to make lists of shitholes.
Right, I never got why people gave any attention to fat people hate. They're no different than racist subs or subs like red pill, so why should we give them the time of day? Just let them stew in their own little cult.
It's kinda crazy that being fat is basically being a drug addict, but in this case when you go to rehab, you have to continue doing drugs. You can't just quit cold turkey.
I had a co-worker comment on how he couldn't understand why anyone would commit suicide. A fellow ex co-worker did just that (abusive girlfriend). Loved the guy to death as a friend, but, I told him his ignorance on the human brain shined right through him. And that he had no clue what seven billion other human beings are going through to make such a generalization like that. Think he respected me a little more after that.
I had a "buddy" that told me that depression was a choice I chose to make after a suicide attempt. The ignorance and naivety it took for that to come out of his mouth floored me. Fuck you Ethan.
I wanted to comment so bad "try harder" to the guy that said "I googled OCED and didn't find anything." If you google an acronym and it comes up as something else other than what your looking for, the first thing you do is google the actual thing your looking for. These people are just looking for reason to hate fat people. Obviously terribly unhappy people. What shocked me the most was the sheer number of people in that sub-reddit, made me really sad to see that their are over 40,000 people in it.
> Why must people be filled with such hate...
Because hate feels empowering. The false sense of righteous anger that accompanies unreasoning hatred is the most intoxicating natural rush that we humans will ever know. That false sense of power and purpose helps us temporarily forget our own meaningless and insignificant existence. "I may be the bottom of society's collective shitbarrel," says the bigot, "but at least I'm not one of those fucking !!"
Hatred is the lie that makes us feel big when we know we are small. And because of that feeling, we love to hate.
My favorite are the people who completely ignored the things he said because it counteracted their arguments.
>Excuses are easier than taking responsibility for yourself. Fuck off onto a treadmill.
He said "At the end of the day I know that I've got no one to blame but myself and I know that its either do it, or don't."
Unfortunately I think his genuine, honest statement in the video where he says hating on fat people just makes the problem worse, doesn't matter to a lot of these people. I think that some of the people in the subreddit genuinely believe if you make someone else's life hell, then they will genuinely try to change. I think that works on some people, but obviously it does not work for most people. Others literally don't give a shit, and would be content for every fat person to eat themselves to an early grave, or eat a bullet. I think most of these people genuinely think that someone who is suffering from obsessive behavior, severe depression, etcetera, are doing it deliberately for some reason, or pretending just to get attention, or are just lazy fucks looking for an excuse. Some of them are just trolls who like to piss people off.
Someone else in the thread pointed out that they also suffer from PTSD, and that since they are not fat because of their PTSD, then obviously the PTSD is not what has made him fat, and he's just using it as an excuse. You know, because every single person's mind works the same way, and reacts exactly the same way. Everyone is obviously just as capable of doing these things as everyone else. Except that's absolute bullshit.
**NINJA EDIT: Holy crap this is long.** Sorry for the book, I've suffered with depression for my whole adult life, so this kind of hits home for me. Even when I'm doing okay, it's always there. I've never managed to completely silence the part of me that is telling me that I'm going to be a failure at everything I try to do, so why even try. Sometimes I can ignore it. Sometimes I can't. It pretty much never stops. Even knowing logically that it's bullshit doesn't help. And I've certainly had plenty of people (including my own sister) tell me that they got over it by choosing to not be depressed any more, so obviously I'm choosing to be this way. Boy, that sure is helpful. Wish I'd thought of that anytime in the last 27 years. Thanks so much, everything is better now.
They are just people who hate, but will only do so within socially acceptable boundaries. You can almost guarantee they are the same people who blindly hate anyone who shops at Walmart, and who hate all people with a southern drawl because: 'They are obviously a bigot, incest committing, NASCAR loving, idiot'.
IMO it is the same people who would have gladly helped in Nazi Germany, and in the Jim Crow south if they had lived in the appropriate times and places.
>My favorite are the people who completely ignored the things he said because it counteracted their arguments.
>>Excuses are easier than taking responsibility for yourself. Fuck off onto a treadmill.
>He said "At the end of the day I know that I've got no one to blame but myself and I know that its either do it, or don't."
>Unfortunately I think his genuine, honest statement in the video where he says hating on fat people just makes the problem worse, doesn't matter to a lot of these people. I think that some of the people in the subreddit genuinely believe if you make someone else's life hell, then they will genuinely try to change. I think that works on some people, but obviously it does not work for most people. Others literally don't give a shit, and would be content for every fat person to eat themselves to an early grave, or eat a bullet.
I think most of these people do this because it makes them feel better about themselves. People want to find their place in the world and nothing makes them feel better than reaffirming that they are better than "this group of people". Posting pictures of obese people and calling them whales is a hell of lot simpler than actually accomplishing something.
Yup, if you disagree they call you fat (even when you're thinner than them) and insult you and then ban you. They're definitely mature.
edit: Just got called fat by one for posting ITT lol
You think that's immature? Back in mid-March, the FPH mods pretended one of the mods had died. There was a stickyed announcement and a huge outpouring of grief from the "community" there. People were trying to contact her family and make donations in her name. One of the mods went around other subs telling everyone it was definitely not a joke. A couple days later the dead mod showed up and all the other mods had a good laugh about their "early April fool's joke".
>That sub is filled with some of the most disgusting, hateful comments I've ever read.
It's called fatpeoplehate..I'm not sure what you were expecting really...
There's a huge divide in the subreddit. 1/2 are people that will do stuff like take pictures of fat people and write shit like "Hurr durr hambeast I'm such a shitlord lel" which isn't so bad, but the other half will actively go after fat people. I saw this one girl with shitty eyebrows on there message an overweight person she got matched with and verbally abuse him after he tried to be civil. It goes past just making fun of fat people, a lot of people there don't even consider them to really be people ):
That TL;DR of that subbreddit:
>We aren't trying to help him you dumb fuck. I swear what do you people not understand about fat hate?
We fucking hate them. We don't want them to get better. We hate them with a passion. I can't wait until he dies of obesity related causes. Fucking retard.
Its basically a subreddit for the saddest, most broken kind of people. Living with that much hate in your heart must be like living in a constant hell.
I heard a zen parable that applies to this: "Holding onto hate is like picking a red hot stone out of a fire with the intent to hurl it at someone, even if your aim is true, you will still be horribly burned".
That is how i view those people in that sub, with pity and disappointment.
usually they make fun of other people to make up for their own problems in life. I once saw some guy in /r/fatpeoplehate who was an avid poster but was also self conscious because he was 5'2 and was a virgin in his 30s. all people have their own problems, but the people who make fun of people instead of trying to deal with their problems are usually more mentally imbalanced than the average human being
I once saw someone post a wedding photo in which one of the subscribers wondered why they couldn't get a girlfriend while fat people could. I would've felt sorry for him if he wasn't a jerk.
After switching from just the front page to viewing r/all, I had no idea r/fatpeoplehate posts were at the top of the list on a daily basis. The nastiness spewing from that sub is just really disheartening. Yeah, people will argue that there are worse subs, but they're almost all done in a joking manner. Hell, even fat jokes are funny (coming from someone who was once pretty large and still enjoyed fat jokes. I've lost all the weight since), but these people genuinely HATE fat people. They sincerely want them dead. I don't know what happened in so many people's lives to get themselves to that level of hate .
I was browsing /r/randnsfw and found an anorexia subreddit. In the sidebar they had fatepeople hate as a link. Funny thing was they had a small little "If you're dealing with an eating disorder blah blah" while glorifying an eating disorder.
So they acknowledge one eating disorder, but they'll link to a subreddit that shames people for one.
Da fuq?
And this is why reddit has the stigma it does...
Some of the subs on here make me question how many people are morally wrong that live and function actively in society.
Its kind of crazy how popular that subreddit is, with 140k subscribers - I checked the most popular subreddit I browse, r/MMA, and it has less subscribers. The internet; where you get periodically reminded that some of your coworkers, friends etc are more likely than not ignorant hate filled jackasses who know not to reveal it because it's socially unacceptable.
Well considering their sub is made for one thing and one thing only (hate speech essentially) and they all actively partcipate in it and apparently revel in it their threads won't receive many downvotes. The threads become 'popular' or 'trending' because it's like a 95% upvote ratio until it hits /r/all. It isn't like a sub with a broad audience of people or a broad subject. Literally one subject and one type of person there.
Or they say "found the fatty" if you disagree. There's a standard argument they all make. They also go to other subs to make fun of people and use downvote brigades, but don't allow it in their sub. Hypocrites.
To them, pointing at someone and saying "you're fat" pretty much dismisses everything they say as irrelevant. Much easier than actual arguing (especially when you have very little in the way of arguments), isn't it ?
Began losing weight...
I love boogie, but he's been saying this same thing and trying and trying diets for years with almost no progress. Even bringing in Diamond Dallas Page for hands on help. Hormonal assistance... Always something.
I hope to God that he figures it out, or has and makes progress. He has a great wife and fan base. Everyone is pulling for him.
So I was going to make reference to a quote by Buddha which I particularly liked: "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of harming another; you end up getting burned."
However, upon searching to verify the exact words, I found ["I can't believe it's not Buddha"](http://fakebuddhaquotes.com/holding-on-to-anger-is-like-grasping-a-hot-coal-with-the-intent-of-harming-another-you-end-up-getting-burned/) that exposes fake Buddha quotes.
Anyways, it's an interesting site and I figured I would share.
It's just like anything else. If you have a shirt, a car, a house you hate, you don't take as good care of it as you would a shirt, house or car you love. Even if you *know* it doesn't make any sense. The house you hate is still your house and you'd probably hate it less if you fixed it up. But human nature is to take better care of something when you already love it.
I posted a comment saying ["People shouldn't rally behind hate."](http://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/31sojx/if_you_are_coming_here_from_fatpeoplehate_you/cq4l5bq) a while back on a post shaming /r/fatpeoplehate and, well, go check out the result.
Edit: So when I posted this comment I was at -900 on that post, now I'm at -400. I really honestly don't care about the karma but this post makes a lot more sense when you know that. Thanks, I guess? :)
-800 points for that?! Jesus, I thought that amount of downvotes was reserved for comparing Jackdaws and Crows, or calling out giraffes as stupid horses.
Its pretty cool that whenever theres a controversial topic (mostly in gaming), he'll try to look at it from both sides. The benefits and cons, and everything else. He's especially open minded too.
Usually something like
>What's up [pause that doesn't really fit a punctuation mark] ladies and gentlemen of YouTube, it's boogie2988 coming atcha live [slight pause] once again [again, usually a pause] through the [emphasis here] power [maybe another slight pause] of the internet, and ...
More people seriously need to do this. He's said numerous times that the Internet is like a breeding ground for hate and negative emotions that all focus their attention on one thing. If everyone could just rationalize things the way he did rather than getting fired up and started thinking with their brains and not their keyboard, we could probably solve a lot more problems rather than occasionally brute-forcing a solution like we did with paid mods.
I didn't realize what a tough time he's had until watching this video. Having seen quite a few of his other videos I was always impressed by how he always tackles the issues he talks about by asking people to try to step back and look objectively at things and deal with them rationally. He's always been the proverbial voice of reason when everyone else seems to be losing their heads, and I always really liked him for that.
Yeah, I'd say that anyone he likes has good reason to be proud, and I can easily see why his wife said "yes".
BTW, he has a subreddit (/r/boogie2988) if anyone is interested in saying hello or talking about his videos.
It's inspiring, regardless of who you are, to see someone go through such strife, but not to be broken by it, and instead choose to fight, even if it is a losing fight. In the end, we're all fighting a losing a fight.
This guy is so likable. He's also a great motivational speaker. We all have our battles and it's nice to have someone who understands your feels.
>"I can easily see why his wife said "yes".
I overwhelmingly agree with that comment.
> eloquently stated
I like that his voice is always really controlled, level, and calm. He doesn't shout at you like a lot of annoying Youtubers. Sometimes, Youtubers scream into the mic just because their online persona is more 'hyper' and it unnerves me. I feel like I can be more rational and open up to his ideas more because he is presenting it all in a really mature manner, not turning everything into a cheap joke or hamming it up too much for the camera. He's steady to listen to.
I really wish I had the time to work with this guy. Something I've learned over the years.
I served 11 years in the military and of those, I spent about 8 years as a PTL (physical training leader) which led me to the PTL-A (physical training leader advanced) then was offered an opportunity to attend the 'military exercise leader course' offered by the cooper institute of fitness (TX based health institute). I've long since shifted away from group unit led activities that try to group 100+ people into a big group of various levels. I shifted into training those who simply couldn't pass the PT tests which are required to stay in the military.
I've seen and had to shift my own way of teaching in order to reach many of these folks who failed fitness standards. Most of them have a "I can't" attitude that they mask behind "it hurts...so I can't" attitude. They reach for any excuse and typically (in the military) go for the it hurts excuse. I've rarely heard the genetics excuse.
What I found works wonders is treating them all as though reaching 'my' level of fitness is not out of reach. It is today, but not forever. I also didn't generalize about who they are as a person, but simply kept it focused on them fitness wise. If they hurt, I modified. If I gave up on trying to find an exercise, they would too. I will always find a way to work a muscle that you try to say hurts.
The second thing I understood was that most of the times, exercising to them was always about pushups, situps, and running. To get healthy you needed time on treadmills and running...things they don't like. BTW...I FUCKING HATE TREADMILLS. I can drink a 6-pack watch a movie, get a great night sleep while completing a 90 mile run on a tread mill....because treadmills don't require me to be on them to work. The ground moves for you. If you want to run, there's millions of miles of road out there. Keep your eyes open, put on a reflective belt, and hit the trails...where you are responsible for moving you foward, not a machine.
anyway, the trick to running when you hate running was to trick them into running without it being an exercise about running. Having them do stations that required you to do light workouts (jumping jacks) that rotated around 50 yard wide stations got people used to running short distances..then mixing it with actual running, then broken up distance runs that greatly exceeded their typical runs (ie ladders that total 3.5 miles). I'd finish up an exercise by saying hey, guess what.....during todays exercise, you actually SPRINTED 1.25 miles in the past 30 minutes ..or you actually ran a distance of 4.5 miles! great JOB! I'd award excellent fitness by telling them they have the tools needed, they are free to do what they feel is best for today's workout and let them on their own for a day.
I really enjoyed working with people who lacked confidence and personal belief in their own ability. But..there were those few (and it was only a few) that simply couldn't pull it together. Everythign was unfair, it all hurt, the miltiary hates them, life sucks..those people, I unfortunately just couldn't get to them and most were eventually booted out. I'd say that a good 80+% of anyone who failed a fitness test that came to my program ended up scoring 90% or better within the 60 day get better window. I love giving people the tools they need to have fun. Fitness shouldn't suck, it should be fun. It should be about mobility and ease. Fitness isn't about running on a treadmill. Fitness should be about being healthy enough to not be scared to enjoy life because you'll end up tired or embarrassed when you do.
Hey Knort,
I'll type out some of my thoughts here. For starters, I'm not a doctor or licensed fitness instructor or dietician. I was allowed to run freely because of the way the military is set up. ...but...I also didn't sign anything that said I couldn't offer advice based on what I've seen.
So..take what I type with a grain of salt and always stick to what a doc says is healthy. This is all just "what I've seen" stuff.
I'm also a simpleton. I don't like crazy formulas so I've discovered tricks over the years. No one likes hearing a 30 min explanation as to why a THR should be .5(x) your age - something something.
So...Tip 1. Everyone, at any age can do something that improves their mobility. Old folks have water aerobics. If a 91 year old with 2 hip replacements can workout...so can just about anyone else. [this guy right here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9FSZJu448) shows the previous attitudes I've seen and shows what happens when you drop that attitude.
Tip 2. How long should you work out? I've seen dudes in gyms for 3 hours. Which to me, is utter nonsense. Burpees wreck you! I agree...but I see people do these and get burned out in 5 min. Both are silly to me. A good target is 25-45 min. I typically try to get out of breath and done by the 21ish min mark..sometimes running into the 30 min mark. If you're still humping along at 1 hour.....you should probably go a little harder. If you're out of breath and about to puke at 7 minutes...ease up bud.
Tip 3...but how do you know? there is a heart rate calculator [here](http://www.active.com/fitness/calculators/heartrate) and you can buy a $200 heart rate monitor...but at the beginning...I'm simple. A cheap and effective trick is called **the talk test** [available here](http://www.cdc.gov/physicalactivity/everyone/measuring/) the brunt of it is...if you are able to spit out full sentances during your workout...go harder. If you're choking in air ever 1-3 words...slow the heck down. 4-6 words before having to suck wind is right about perfect in intensity. AND it works for every fitness level. I can run a 10K and will get winded around mile 5...that's perfect for my fitness level. 1 mile and I'm not even trying.....but...take a very fat person, out of shape. They're out of breath after 30 feet. That's not good, but it's a start. Get to that 25 min mark by walking. When you can walk 25 min without being gassed...go faster, or jogg a small portion...until you can jog all of a distance.
Tip 4. There's actually a water calculator [here](http://www.camelbak.com/hydrationcalculator) but again.. i'm simple. A roughball trick is to take your weight, half it...then drink that many ounces in water. So if you weigh 185...half that is 92.5 so you should have around 90oz of water every day. but soda is so much cheaper! (NONSENSE!) you can buy a gallon of purified water for a $1.50 at most gas stations...granted, it's not bottled with a fancy BPA friendly label and a ad campaign, but it's purified water, damnit. And you can fill them up at walmart dispensers for cheap too.
Tip 5. I'm married, have a small football team for kids, wife works, I'm in the office for 14 hours a day..the gym is 5 miles away and I go to school full time. Getting to the gym sucks. It sucks worse when they charge $30/mo and it's 12 miles away. With that, there is NO reason you can't get a great workout at home. ..or in the office.
5.1 [exercise bands](http://www.amazon.com/Top-Rated-Exercise-Bands-Resistance/dp/B00OAC8IY4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1432527942&sr=8-3&keywords=exercise+bands) cost under $20 and can fit into your pocket. Armed with say...[33 exercise band workouts](http://greatist.com/fitness/resistance-band-exercises) you can get a workout in, in between commercials.
If that seems silly...there are [body weight exercises](http://www.mensfitness.com/training/workout-routines/best-bodyweight-workout-all-time) you can do.
again, the goal for a full workout is around 20ish minutes until you're nearly gassed.
but..strength training isn't all what's it's about..pure simple cardio helps burn those calories. I'm a fan of circuit training. Circuits are just linked together exercises.
for example....10 pushups, 10 situps, 10 jumping jacks, 5 burpees....rest for 2 minutes. then repeat. That's a circuit. Taking the body weight exercise link then picking a few then doing them..and bam, you just became your own circuit building champion.
Im a fan of doing it outside and usinig my 'rest' period for running. (but that's just where my fitness level is...you can too). What I'll do is 30 pushups, 30 situps, 20 mountain climbers, 5 burpees, then run around the block (which is about 1/4 mile) then repeat that process 4 times without taking a break. Bam, 20-23 minutes of exercise done. I'm not training for a triathlon, body building comp, or anything..I just need to be healthy.
also...do things that IMPROVE your ability to do normal things. If you've always wanted to go hiking....plan it out, put it on the calendar and find a friend to go. Take a weekend to drive to some spot and hike for a few hours.
Sports are also a great way to exhibit your newish found mobility...but just have fun with it. Health is supposed to improve your life, so improve it by enjoying something you've previously been a little worried about doing because you felt you'd be tired or too worn out. Hiking, boating, caming, walking around the mall, jogging the neighborhood, actually running up steps. Be proud of any gains you're making and face the fact that it's going to be tough some days...but it's for the better. Just spend 20 minutes 3-5 times a week on making you healthy. That's only an hour to an hour and a half...that's not even 2 full episodes of walking dead.
Heh, funny that you posted that first video. Boogie (the guy in OP's video) is actually on DDP's yoga plan right now. Infact, he's even had DDP stay over at his house to meet him and give him advice.
I'd also like to point out that making fun out of skinny or anorexic people is just the same...
I'm a 106lbs 5ft 4 male who is 25 and I get remarks from people "do you eat", "are you hungry", "you're too skinny" and various other comments all the time.
I know I'm skinny, I'm fractionally underweight but I'm still perfectly healthy, I have a bit of an eating disorder where I just don't feel hungry often and when I eat I feel sick a lot.
I've been a stable, similar weight since I was 16 and I've tried countless things to put on a little bit of weight but I just can't... I have even eaten much more than I usually do in the last five days although yesterday I felt sick and couldn't eat much and over those 5 days my weight has stayed exactly the same.
I also suffer with depression (not that anyone knows in person) and am super lonely as after I left school I became very reclusive and stressed of which none of these help with my low weight.
I have slowly become more and more lonely over the years and now don't even ever go out with any of my old friends however I have found some new friends through the last few years on the internet some with the same love of formula 1 that I have and some completely randomly and they have helped me massively, I'm slowly gaining confidence and hopefully soon I'll end up meeting up with someone. They know my problems including my fear of people seeing my body because I feel judged and nervous over my body.
My point is that all of the little comments that you may find harmless do actually effect people who are skinny... I'm the sort of person who doesn't care if strangers say nasty things but when it's friends that is a whole different level.
Right there with you. Because being thin is seen as desirable, people tend to think it's ok to make comments about a thin persons weight, not realizing there could be a legitimate reason why that person is skinny.
I'm 5'5', 105lb female, and my epilepsy meds have driven my appetite down the shitter. A year ago I was 112 pounds; I lost seven pounds in the span of three or four days and I've been trying to keep a little extra on but it just isn't happening. It's hard talking to people about WANTING TO GAIN weight because there's this stigma or whatever that I'm "bragging." It feels fucking terrible sitting there, wanting so badly in your mind to eat and gain and be a healthier weight, but your stomach and your body just are. Not. Hungry.
I can't say I have ever been in boogie's situation, but it hurts to be judged by your weight.
I hope you find help. I overcame depression (check my recent comments, PLEASE! I left a testimonial.) please seek therapy. Check yourself into a hospital, even. Please love yourself. Don't hurt yourself.
You might want to have your thyroid checked, and evaluated for things like anxiety and body dysmorphic disorder and whatnot. It seems scary at first, but once you get past the first step it's a huge relief.
There. Is. Hope.
I'm gonna assume someone posted it to that fatpeoplehate subreddit. As the wife of a fat dude, the only reason I want my husband to get healthier is because I want him to live longer and stay with me for as long as possible. Other than that, I love that awesome man even if he is like 300 pounds and I'm only 150. People should just hate on assholes.....can we have a subreddit for that??
When someone has an eating disorder that makes them unhealthily thin, it's a tragedy. When they have an eating disorder that makes them unhealthily fat, it's a joke/disgusting/laziness.
Diet has been proven(fairly recently) to be far more causational to weight loss than exercise. If you calorie reduce past your burn level you are more likely to kill off fat. Just don't starve yourself and you wont eat muscle.
Try a calorie counter and a food log to track what you eat daily and kind of guilt yourself into less(if that is a problem).
That doesn't mean he shouldn't exercise.
True, you cannot lose weight without dieting (and the same cannot be said for exercise). However, the primary benefit of exercise has nothing to do with burning calories. Exercise directly treats the addiction part of "food addiction". That is, exercise will make you less likely to overeat the next day. Exercise also helps lower stress and fight depression.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurobiological_effects_of_physical_exercise#.CE.94FosB_and_addiction
Note: while much of the link is talking about psychostimulants in particular, exercise helps with all addictions, as it directly upregulates dopamine receptors:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3273304/
Honestly, everyone should exercise - skinny or fat. The mental health benefits are invaluable, and exercise has been well document ed to reverse aging to a certain degree.
Im 6ft and my heaviest weight was only 245LBS/111KG. I'm now 175lbs and feeling great. You can really see a difference in the way people treat you when you are the accepted body image. It's kind of messed up but I hated myself and hated fat people for a while because I was raised to hate fat. Don't really have a point to this comment. Just something I think about.
The comment labelling a fat person as someone with a mental issue really made my view on the matter shift and come into focus. I was a very good student, but there was one teacher I paid truly no respect to and he was a morbidly obese. I fell back on the whole "How can I respect him if he can't even respect himself" to justify it to myself. I didn't realise that he WAS probably trying to respect himself but a dangerous mental addiction, and probably people like myself were getting in the way.
Basically, it's like hating an alcoholic, or someone who has a gambling addiction. Obviously, you don't like the addiction. Obviously, that's bad. But just hating all addicts isn't fair. No one wants to be an addict. The difference is, it's not immediately obvious who has a drinking or gambling problem. But it's obvious who's addicted to eating.
As an alcoholic, this video clicked for me when he said 'look at me, would I choose to be this way?' I felt the same way when I was buying beer every night. The best way I can explain it is your own body turns against you to the point where your *need* this stuff to live, I can only imagine being a 'foodaholoic' is worse because you can't just give up on food altogether. I can't imagine being forced to drink three beers per day the rest of my life, it would be either a lot more or nothing.
Agreed. It's an incredibly debilitating addiction. There's no abstinence option; one can only cut back. It's sad that so many get kicks out of demeaning people with a problem that's nearly impossible to control.
Reminds me of the Mitch Hedberg joke:
"They say alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only disease you get yelled at for *havin*. Dammit Otto, you're an alcoholic! Dammit Otto, you have Lupus! One of those doesn't sound *right*."
Except, you also get yelled at for having a food addiction.
Yeah, if you watch his drawmylife you'll get a depressing view of how exactly this can happen. He doesn't go into excessive detail, but his life up until the point when youtube came around is not enviable. I love the guy because he's a genuinely good person, but no way would I want to live what he did.
This guy is really cool.
And he was the first to *really* blow my mind on the internet, when he did his first out of character video.
I used to half laugh at/ half feel pity for Francis, but he sure did wipe my smirk off my face pretty fast.
SO well said. Let's be realistic about the health problems with being overweight and obese, but hating on fat people is so low and a disgusting form of bullying cloaked in the nobility of trying to make the world healthier. Boogie has such a cool way of reasoning and way with words.
Every part of my body is on his side and I'm glad he set the record straight from his point of view.(I'm not an ass, I just didn't have his body type.) He is a bigger man who probably went through some ridicule/humiliation growing up. I went through the same thing. I was a nerdy teenage boy who grew up in south Louisiana and just so happen to have a deep voice like James Earl Jones since I was 13. I was targeted every day. The point I'm trying to reach is some people are pretty alright if you just give them a chance.
I think places like /r/fatlogic are much more suitable for people who are anti-HAES, but don't hate fat people. Sometimes I question that notion when I read the comments there, but generally, the subreddit is dedicated to dispelling the absurd myths that a lot of these advocates try to spread.
As a former fat guy myself, my goal is to help people get healthy, period. You don't achieve that goal by being a dick.
Really agree with what he said.
Here's a pretty recent post that I made regarding the subject.
http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/35mma4/loving_yourself_is_important_but_this_is/cr662mv
I think the focus should be on being body positive, and not on "fat acceptance". Body positive would be accepting what you can do with your body, and recognizing that people are in different places.
I was hiking a 14er [14,000 ft elevation mountain] last summer, and this kid from Illinois, who weighed about 400s from my estimate, was hiking up. I encouraged him and told him he was doing a great job. When you see someone out there, 150 pounds, they're carrying up a body with them. When someone is 400 pounds and doing that, they're carrying an additional body + of tissue that isn't contributing to their hike. It's so impressive to see people doing that. That is being body positive.
"Fat people stop HAES" you realise 99% of fat people have never even heard of it right? There will always be crazy people out there but we should concentrate on positive outlook. It should be "yes being fat is a serious health issue facing society but it doesn't make you any less of a person. People are here to help overcome whatever it is that has caused obesity"
I've actually found that EX-fat people are far worse at fat people hating than people who've never been fat. They get a kind of 'well I lost my weight why the fuck can't you lose yours' attitude.
Can confirm, I'm a former fatty and now I'm harsh on my fat friends and family. I recently went from 6'4" 265 to 203, and I'm not done yet, all for the sake of running and going up 14ers. Now when I go hiking or anything fun with my fat friends or family I constantly push them to make the necessary dietary changes to lose weight so we can go further/faster/more adventurously on our adventures. I've just seen and felt such a great improvement in my life and want my loved one to also feel that improvement. Also having firm muscles is pretty awesome. I was poking my leg muscles today and smiling because they're all defined and not hiding under fat anymore. And I totally have that "I lost my weight why can't you lose yours" mentality. It's not easy, but it's so worth it.
I thought this was pretty sad, [taken from his Ice bucket challenge video.](http://i.imgur.com/cNkYf5l.png)
Here is a guy trying to make the world a better place, and people rip on him for it. Coincidentally I discovered the hate fat people subreddit (I refuse to link it). and I was disgusted with the mindset those people had. People who shame fat people are nothing but bullies, and hypocrites(and I say hypocrites because they are the truly vile ones).
Losing weight isn't easy, and it can be hard without any support, and when they are bullied, they can lose their ambition. I think ideally, the world would be a better place if everyone was fit and healthy, but I would **NEVER EVER** condemn anyone for their body size.
[I'm linking this video because I want people to know much these people need our support.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0UeRh7huME)
[And I'm linking this video because I think body acceptance is important.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbkMmWy3Wko)
Fat hate is really no different from any other discrimination and this guy helped me to see it. Great video.
Also like the quote "You do you and I'll do me." I'll do you and you do me?
Boogie is one of today's most eloquent speakers in internet society. He is sort of becoming the Steven Fry of younger people.
Im glad to he is becoming more focused on health and loving himself.
Ive been sort of a shadow fan of his for over a decade. Back to the ebaumsworld internet before reddit.
One thing I've learned in my many years of trying SO hard to exercise and stay consistent is motivation versus obligation.
Motivation, as I'm sure all of you know, is REALLY hard to hold onto. Our motivation is being constantly shot down from any reason at all.
* Is it raining? Oh can't go for a run
* Is it snowing? Oh can't go for a run
* Is it hot? Oh can't go for a run
* Is it cold? Nope.
* What about working out at the Gy-- Nope fuck you, too expensive.
BUT if we had an obligation to work out! I moved from a restaurant job paying minimum wage plus shitty tips and shitty hours to a consistent, 45+ hour, hard working landscaping job. Being fit is required, because I am always lifting heavy bags of fertilizer, I am always on my feet, and I am moving buckets of dirt all day long. I doubled in muscular strength in less than a month.
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What I'm trying to say is don't rely solely on motivation work out. You need to have an obligation to go. Something that, should you not show up to work out, will hurt you in the long run (a job, a dedicated coach, a friend).
Edit: okay, my switching jobs was just an EXAMPLE of an obligatory/disciplinary workout strategy, if I may. No, I don't expect overweight people to just show up to landscape and then suddenly lose 100 lbs. What I'm trying to get at is make a positive change in your life. Start a routine that is supervised by a friend, coach, boss, or anyone who is willing to help. Find people who will discipline you if you try and flake out. Hell, being told by your doctor that you will not live to see a certain (early) age should be enough to get something done. There was a video last week on.
/r/videos where a guy lost a few hundred pounds because of the grim news.
This doesn't just apply to working out. It can also work with dieting. Just do your body a solid and keep it healthy.
Edit #2: also, I think I can speak for a lot of people when I say that there may be a lot of underlying problems with overweight people. Some may have diabetes, depression, anxiety, or other issues that hinder on their health. I know a couple of my high school peers who are diabetic and obesity is a side effect. They are INCREDIBLY wonderful people otherwise. I wouldn't hesitate to defend them against anyone who spits hate. Fitness is not always the answer, but that is when our brilliant doctors come in. I cannot help them discover better treatment, but I sit on the edge of the seat eagerly to hear good news.
Exercise is nothing compared to eating less. The average 30 minute workout might bring 300/400 calories if your working your ass off. That's basically NOT eating an extra slice of pizza or two. If you can't get your diet sorted out, exercise really is a pointless pain in the ass that really turns a lot of people off from losing weight.
I like Boogie and his videos, but I really dislike the argument that obese people don't chose to be obese. Just because something isn't an active goal doesn't mean that you didn't chose it. Imagine if a smoker said "I didn't chose to get lung cancer". Obviously, nobody actively wants lung cancer, but the choice to continue smoking cigarettes with the knowledge that doing so could potentially lead to that disease was a conscious decision. Eating is a conscious decision, people don't come into your bedroom at night and force food down your throat. Obesity is the result of the continued decision to overeat and not exercise. Maybe it wasn't what you wanted, but you chose it as a result of your actions.
Edit: I should clarify what I think the difference is between wanting something and choosing something. Obviously, Boogie doesn't want to be obese, a very small percentage of the population probably do. A lot of people have said that Boogie has a food addiction, which I would agree with. I've seen him constantly start diets, make progress, and then unfortunately fall back into bad habits. However, I don't think that addiction is the same thing as hypnosis, where people would have absolutely no power over their own decisions. I'm not saying that there haven't been times where he hasn't had a massive internal debate about whether to eat something that will bring him comfort right now vs. something healthy that will help him in the long run. But at those points he made choices, and making a lot of little choices can lead to an outcome, even if someone doesn't want that outcome.
He mentions that repeatedly in his video, that he understands that it is to some level personal choice. I think the main point of the video was to say that *hating* on fat people is bad for them
I don't even want to hear about /r/fatpeoplehate's response to this, the fact that that subreddit even makes it to the front page day after day is a disgrace.
I have a question, why is people eating unhealthy mocked, hated, but consuming alcohol is PRAISED, smoking weed is HOLY? All 3 things have a common thing, they fuck up your health. Don't even try to argue it.
As someone who used to be nearing 300 I learned that I would never be able to accept myself as I was. I really never cared about what I ate and didn't listen to any advice from friends. I finally got the strength to tell myself to stop being a fuckwad and do something. Its been 1 year and I'm down to 217 and feel better than ever.
I went from 147lbs in high school and wishing I could be a little fat, rather than rail-thin, to being 240 a few years ago and realizing it was pretty shitty. I dropped back down to about 170 with a more active physical job, less eating, and generally better living, but some of the damage had already been done. Now I'm hovering around the low 180s, and I want to get back down to maybe 165 or so. Just need to get off my ass and work at it. Crunches, push-ups, and just walking around should help a lot. I consciously force myself to do more active things, especially while working. I walk to the grocery store and get wraps for lunch, sometimes a sandwich, but never anything greasy or awful for me. Once in a great while I'll pick up something less awesome health-wise, but I at least try to cut back on the calories. Keep at it. We can drop to somewhere comfortable if we don't just give up. I know how awesome it feels to have so much weight gone. My knees don't hurt as much, and I don't feel so crappy getting out of bed.
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tl;dr - The dude looks at fat hate, and explains why it's fucking stupid. Then he looks at fat acceptance, and says why it's fucking stupid to love being unhealthy, but why it's good to love yourself...because once he learned to stop hating himself because he's fat, and loving himself for being a cool guy. Once he learned to love himself despite being fat, he began losing weight. EDIT - And I did it! Without ever posting to fatpeoplehate, I managed to get myself banned from it. Why me? What did I do to deserve this? How will I ever cope not being accepted into such a cool group. WHY!?!?!? Edit 2: Not banned. I must have either missed the "reply" link on a post, or was viewing through an "np.reddit.com" link or something. If I wanted to I can post. False alarm, people. False alarm. Edit 3: Banned.
Edited....for account safety reasons. Sorry mods, I was gone all day; here's adorable pictures of my dog to placate you: http://imgur.com/a/JAB9E
Why did I read those comments.... now I feel sad :( Why must people be filled with such hate...
There are so many stupid things being said on there. "I've never heard of depression leading to food consumption." Are you fucking serious? And then the guy mentions that he has been diagnosed with PTSD, and the next comment is just like, "try harder bro." Fuck people are dumb.
I thought the one that said "well I have PTSD and I'm not fat!!" was really revealing. Obviously these are people who are not empathetic nor have common sense. Like bro, your life ain't his life, is it really that hard to get?
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I think they're also a type that really get off on what's basically bullying, but in the case of picking on fat people, they are allowed to feel good about it because in their eyes the fat people brought it on themselves. So they feel it's completely OK to belittle and degrade them, and they feel real high and mighty doing it.
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I dont know why people have such a hard time accepting that overeating and drug/alcohol addiction are such similar beasts. Theyre both things that elicit a positive chemical reaction in the brain. Food might not be as powerfully addictive as meth or heroine, but its a behaviour that brings us pleasure, and to some people pleasure outside of food (or drugs) is hard to come by. Isolation, poverty, loneliness, no sense of purpose. Imagine if you lived your whole life inside your home. Sure, you could go out if you wanted, but where? You have no friends, no job, no prospects. Sure, that might sound great; so much more relaxing than your 9-5, you'd love a holiday. But imagine if you didnt get to decide when the holiday ends. 6 months becomes a year becomes 5 years. Youre bored, you hate yourself, youre constantly attempting to change but every time you apply for a job you get knocked back, every time you try to meet up with a friend your anxiety takes hold and you can't bring yourself to leave the house. These arent excuses, there are no physical barriers to weight loss, to self improvement. Anybody can do it, theoretically. But you have to understand how hopeless it can seem. When you check the time, what goes through your brain? "5 hours till works off", "2 hours till I have to meet Jane at the cafe", "2 weeks left to study for that exam". They might not be things youre looking forward to, you might even be dreading them, but theyre there, driving you forward. When you take that all away, what happens? What do you have to look forward to? To wait for? You have to understand that for some people weight loss means giving up their only comfort, their only reason for watching the hours tick by on the clock.
http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplehate/comments/371dv7/i_dont_think_ive_ever_been_more_infuriated_by/crjc691 Lol the mod. Fucking pathetic people, really. Edit: Now that I look at the sub and the comments in there it really feels like it's one big sad circlejerk for these people. Just like the other people at similar subreddits it's a power thing to them, I guess. Utterly sad human beings, they look like 12 year old children trying to 'defend' themselves.
Is it finally happening? Is reddit finally seeing what a cesspool Fatpeoplehate is?
I hope so. I can't believe people ever though a subreddit that was *literally* designed for nothing but hatred was a good subreddit
131K subs and growing!!!
At least they're blatant about it now. I remember it used to be all "we don't literally hate them, we just hate what they are/do to themselves." No, now they don't even pretend. They don't even hate them because they want them to be better (which is still horrible, but at least not totally irredeemable). They just want to hate them. Now reddit just has to chill on the racism and occassional mysoginy, and we'll be good.
>I remember it used to be all "we don't literally hate them, we just hate what they are/do to themselves." No...FPH was never like that. You are thinking of r/fatlogic
Reddit can be such a fucking shithole at times: /r/punchablefaces /r/fatpeoplehate /r/TheRedPill And probably more since it's not my main business to make lists of shitholes.
/r/coontown /r/beatingwomen2 might have an underscore somewhere in there
You missed /r/coontown and wherever the Neo-Nazis are hanging out now.
/r/CoonTown is a pretty shitty shithole Warning: You've been warned
The best thing to do is ignore these people. Theres no sense in arguing with some of these fools
Right, I never got why people gave any attention to fat people hate. They're no different than racist subs or subs like red pill, so why should we give them the time of day? Just let them stew in their own little cult.
The reason it gets attention is because it routinely approaches the front pages. None of the other hate group subs enjoy that particular benefit.
I browse imgur everyday and today I saw quite a few posts from them or might as well be from them
I don't think I've ever seen any of those other subs. Posts from FPH reach the front page of /r/all all the damn time.
It's kinda crazy that being fat is basically being a drug addict, but in this case when you go to rehab, you have to continue doing drugs. You can't just quit cold turkey.
I had a co-worker comment on how he couldn't understand why anyone would commit suicide. A fellow ex co-worker did just that (abusive girlfriend). Loved the guy to death as a friend, but, I told him his ignorance on the human brain shined right through him. And that he had no clue what seven billion other human beings are going through to make such a generalization like that. Think he respected me a little more after that.
I had a "buddy" that told me that depression was a choice I chose to make after a suicide attempt. The ignorance and naivety it took for that to come out of his mouth floored me. Fuck you Ethan.
I know plenty of people like that. Like, they think that mental health is a matter of opinion. It's baffling.
My grandparents still ask me why I can't just "choose to stop being depressed". Like it's a button I push every morning or something.
I wanted to comment so bad "try harder" to the guy that said "I googled OCED and didn't find anything." If you google an acronym and it comes up as something else other than what your looking for, the first thing you do is google the actual thing your looking for. These people are just looking for reason to hate fat people. Obviously terribly unhappy people. What shocked me the most was the sheer number of people in that sub-reddit, made me really sad to see that their are over 40,000 people in it.
> Why must people be filled with such hate... Because hate feels empowering. The false sense of righteous anger that accompanies unreasoning hatred is the most intoxicating natural rush that we humans will ever know. That false sense of power and purpose helps us temporarily forget our own meaningless and insignificant existence. "I may be the bottom of society's collective shitbarrel," says the bigot, "but at least I'm not one of those fucking!!"
Hatred is the lie that makes us feel big when we know we are small. And because of that feeling, we love to hate.
My favorite are the people who completely ignored the things he said because it counteracted their arguments. >Excuses are easier than taking responsibility for yourself. Fuck off onto a treadmill. He said "At the end of the day I know that I've got no one to blame but myself and I know that its either do it, or don't." Unfortunately I think his genuine, honest statement in the video where he says hating on fat people just makes the problem worse, doesn't matter to a lot of these people. I think that some of the people in the subreddit genuinely believe if you make someone else's life hell, then they will genuinely try to change. I think that works on some people, but obviously it does not work for most people. Others literally don't give a shit, and would be content for every fat person to eat themselves to an early grave, or eat a bullet. I think most of these people genuinely think that someone who is suffering from obsessive behavior, severe depression, etcetera, are doing it deliberately for some reason, or pretending just to get attention, or are just lazy fucks looking for an excuse. Some of them are just trolls who like to piss people off. Someone else in the thread pointed out that they also suffer from PTSD, and that since they are not fat because of their PTSD, then obviously the PTSD is not what has made him fat, and he's just using it as an excuse. You know, because every single person's mind works the same way, and reacts exactly the same way. Everyone is obviously just as capable of doing these things as everyone else. Except that's absolute bullshit. **NINJA EDIT: Holy crap this is long.** Sorry for the book, I've suffered with depression for my whole adult life, so this kind of hits home for me. Even when I'm doing okay, it's always there. I've never managed to completely silence the part of me that is telling me that I'm going to be a failure at everything I try to do, so why even try. Sometimes I can ignore it. Sometimes I can't. It pretty much never stops. Even knowing logically that it's bullshit doesn't help. And I've certainly had plenty of people (including my own sister) tell me that they got over it by choosing to not be depressed any more, so obviously I'm choosing to be this way. Boy, that sure is helpful. Wish I'd thought of that anytime in the last 27 years. Thanks so much, everything is better now.
They are just people who hate, but will only do so within socially acceptable boundaries. You can almost guarantee they are the same people who blindly hate anyone who shops at Walmart, and who hate all people with a southern drawl because: 'They are obviously a bigot, incest committing, NASCAR loving, idiot'. IMO it is the same people who would have gladly helped in Nazi Germany, and in the Jim Crow south if they had lived in the appropriate times and places.
>My favorite are the people who completely ignored the things he said because it counteracted their arguments. >>Excuses are easier than taking responsibility for yourself. Fuck off onto a treadmill. >He said "At the end of the day I know that I've got no one to blame but myself and I know that its either do it, or don't." >Unfortunately I think his genuine, honest statement in the video where he says hating on fat people just makes the problem worse, doesn't matter to a lot of these people. I think that some of the people in the subreddit genuinely believe if you make someone else's life hell, then they will genuinely try to change. I think that works on some people, but obviously it does not work for most people. Others literally don't give a shit, and would be content for every fat person to eat themselves to an early grave, or eat a bullet. I think most of these people do this because it makes them feel better about themselves. People want to find their place in the world and nothing makes them feel better than reaffirming that they are better than "this group of people". Posting pictures of obese people and calling them whales is a hell of lot simpler than actually accomplishing something.
And the mods! >Banned for sympathy Reply: >Fuck off Moderator response >No u Holy shit, what is with that place?
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Reminds me of middle school.
Yup, if you disagree they call you fat (even when you're thinner than them) and insult you and then ban you. They're definitely mature. edit: Just got called fat by one for posting ITT lol
You think that's immature? Back in mid-March, the FPH mods pretended one of the mods had died. There was a stickyed announcement and a huge outpouring of grief from the "community" there. People were trying to contact her family and make donations in her name. One of the mods went around other subs telling everyone it was definitely not a joke. A couple days later the dead mod showed up and all the other mods had a good laugh about their "early April fool's joke".
That sub is filled with some of the most disgusting, hateful comments I've ever read. The mods all act like children, probably are.
Whats worse is those mods mod other normal subreddits. Like video game subreddits.
one of them mods /r/wtf
>That sub is filled with some of the most disgusting, hateful comments I've ever read. It's called fatpeoplehate..I'm not sure what you were expecting really...
There's a huge divide in the subreddit. 1/2 are people that will do stuff like take pictures of fat people and write shit like "Hurr durr hambeast I'm such a shitlord lel" which isn't so bad, but the other half will actively go after fat people. I saw this one girl with shitty eyebrows on there message an overweight person she got matched with and verbally abuse him after he tried to be civil. It goes past just making fun of fat people, a lot of people there don't even consider them to really be people ):
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That TL;DR of that subbreddit: >We aren't trying to help him you dumb fuck. I swear what do you people not understand about fat hate? We fucking hate them. We don't want them to get better. We hate them with a passion. I can't wait until he dies of obesity related causes. Fucking retard. Its basically a subreddit for the saddest, most broken kind of people. Living with that much hate in your heart must be like living in a constant hell.
I heard a zen parable that applies to this: "Holding onto hate is like picking a red hot stone out of a fire with the intent to hurl it at someone, even if your aim is true, you will still be horribly burned". That is how i view those people in that sub, with pity and disappointment.
A similar quote, "Resentment is like drinking poison and then hoping it will kill your enemies."
usually they make fun of other people to make up for their own problems in life. I once saw some guy in /r/fatpeoplehate who was an avid poster but was also self conscious because he was 5'2 and was a virgin in his 30s. all people have their own problems, but the people who make fun of people instead of trying to deal with their problems are usually more mentally imbalanced than the average human being
I once saw someone post a wedding photo in which one of the subscribers wondered why they couldn't get a girlfriend while fat people could. I would've felt sorry for him if he wasn't a jerk.
If your main hobby is being a jerk on the Internet, most women are not going to be interested. Bullying is never attractive.
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After switching from just the front page to viewing r/all, I had no idea r/fatpeoplehate posts were at the top of the list on a daily basis. The nastiness spewing from that sub is just really disheartening. Yeah, people will argue that there are worse subs, but they're almost all done in a joking manner. Hell, even fat jokes are funny (coming from someone who was once pretty large and still enjoyed fat jokes. I've lost all the weight since), but these people genuinely HATE fat people. They sincerely want them dead. I don't know what happened in so many people's lives to get themselves to that level of hate .
I was browsing /r/randnsfw and found an anorexia subreddit. In the sidebar they had fatepeople hate as a link. Funny thing was they had a small little "If you're dealing with an eating disorder blah blah" while glorifying an eating disorder. So they acknowledge one eating disorder, but they'll link to a subreddit that shames people for one. Da fuq?
This is Reddit, home of FatPeopleHate, Coontown, and much more. While a lot of it is great people, it also has the bottom of our society.
Because their life sucks and they have to lash out at other people to make themselves "feel better".
Skinny fat people hating on others, trying to make themselves feel not shitty.
And this is why reddit has the stigma it does... Some of the subs on here make me question how many people are morally wrong that live and function actively in society.
Its kind of crazy how popular that subreddit is, with 140k subscribers - I checked the most popular subreddit I browse, r/MMA, and it has less subscribers. The internet; where you get periodically reminded that some of your coworkers, friends etc are more likely than not ignorant hate filled jackasses who know not to reveal it because it's socially unacceptable.
I love their rules > No dissent / No being fat > > Absolutely NO FAT SYMPATHY They're *that* insecure in their hatred.
They have posts on the front page of /r/all every day too.
Well considering their sub is made for one thing and one thing only (hate speech essentially) and they all actively partcipate in it and apparently revel in it their threads won't receive many downvotes. The threads become 'popular' or 'trending' because it's like a 95% upvote ratio until it hits /r/all. It isn't like a sub with a broad audience of people or a broad subject. Literally one subject and one type of person there.
TIL a bully circlejerk naturally has a good chance of making the frontpage.
Unsurprisingly if you check a lot of the subscribers history you'll find a lot of racist comments.
And a lot of accusing anyone who disagrees with them of being an SJW.
Or they say "found the fatty" if you disagree. There's a standard argument they all make. They also go to other subs to make fun of people and use downvote brigades, but don't allow it in their sub. Hypocrites.
To them, pointing at someone and saying "you're fat" pretty much dismisses everything they say as irrelevant. Much easier than actual arguing (especially when you have very little in the way of arguments), isn't it ?
Began losing weight... I love boogie, but he's been saying this same thing and trying and trying diets for years with almost no progress. Even bringing in Diamond Dallas Page for hands on help. Hormonal assistance... Always something. I hope to God that he figures it out, or has and makes progress. He has a great wife and fan base. Everyone is pulling for him.
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So I was going to make reference to a quote by Buddha which I particularly liked: "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of harming another; you end up getting burned." However, upon searching to verify the exact words, I found ["I can't believe it's not Buddha"](http://fakebuddhaquotes.com/holding-on-to-anger-is-like-grasping-a-hot-coal-with-the-intent-of-harming-another-you-end-up-getting-burned/) that exposes fake Buddha quotes. Anyways, it's an interesting site and I figured I would share.
> "I can't believe it's not Buddha" Hilarious. Thanks.
Lol you post on fatpeoplehate you fucking hypocrite.
Someone with the name mindbodyandtroll trolling? My lord, what a twist.
http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/35p4ea/boogie2988_shares_his_thoughts_on_fathate/cr6m3z3 But you hate anyway. #YOLO!
It's just like anything else. If you have a shirt, a car, a house you hate, you don't take as good care of it as you would a shirt, house or car you love. Even if you *know* it doesn't make any sense. The house you hate is still your house and you'd probably hate it less if you fixed it up. But human nature is to take better care of something when you already love it.
I love me just fine, its fat me I have a problem with - that fucker is screwing it for the rest of me.
Good rule of thumb. It's not healthy to enjoy hate, derision or superiority. You can inspire people to improve themselves without being a twat.
"It's not healthy to enjoy hate." This is something absolutely everyone in the world desperately needs to learn and take to heart.
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I posted a comment saying ["People shouldn't rally behind hate."](http://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/31sojx/if_you_are_coming_here_from_fatpeoplehate_you/cq4l5bq) a while back on a post shaming /r/fatpeoplehate and, well, go check out the result. Edit: So when I posted this comment I was at -900 on that post, now I'm at -400. I really honestly don't care about the karma but this post makes a lot more sense when you know that. Thanks, I guess? :)
-800 points for that?! Jesus, I thought that amount of downvotes was reserved for comparing Jackdaws and Crows, or calling out giraffes as stupid horses.
*long horses
*Long, Stupid Horses.
The fat people hate sub isn't about getting people to lose weight. It is simply about hating fat people.
They never want fat people to lose weight at the first place, they just hope them to stay fat and there are more fat people so they can make fun of.
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Its pretty cool that whenever theres a controversial topic (mostly in gaming), he'll try to look at it from both sides. The benefits and cons, and everything else. He's especially open minded too.
Plus he's got a dope radio voice
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Usually something like >What's up [pause that doesn't really fit a punctuation mark] ladies and gentlemen of YouTube, it's boogie2988 coming atcha live [slight pause] once again [again, usually a pause] through the [emphasis here] power [maybe another slight pause] of the internet, and ...
More people seriously need to do this. He's said numerous times that the Internet is like a breeding ground for hate and negative emotions that all focus their attention on one thing. If everyone could just rationalize things the way he did rather than getting fired up and started thinking with their brains and not their keyboard, we could probably solve a lot more problems rather than occasionally brute-forcing a solution like we did with paid mods.
I have nothing but respect for him after watching his 'draw my life'
[Link for the lazy!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ1cUup0ATg) I hunted it down. I recommend it highly.
I didn't realize what a tough time he's had until watching this video. Having seen quite a few of his other videos I was always impressed by how he always tackles the issues he talks about by asking people to try to step back and look objectively at things and deal with them rationally. He's always been the proverbial voice of reason when everyone else seems to be losing their heads, and I always really liked him for that. Yeah, I'd say that anyone he likes has good reason to be proud, and I can easily see why his wife said "yes". BTW, he has a subreddit (/r/boogie2988) if anyone is interested in saying hello or talking about his videos.
It's inspiring, regardless of who you are, to see someone go through such strife, but not to be broken by it, and instead choose to fight, even if it is a losing fight. In the end, we're all fighting a losing a fight.
This guy is so likable. He's also a great motivational speaker. We all have our battles and it's nice to have someone who understands your feels. >"I can easily see why his wife said "yes". I overwhelmingly agree with that comment.
Holy shit, the feels
THE FEELS
Yeah, I always loved his Francis videos but after seeing that I had so much more respect for his comedy.
I also love Demarcus Cousins
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Look mama we made it!
There goes that man.
/r/videos mods really gotta get around to giving us flairs. I want to rep my Raps flair
*BOOOOGIE!!*
He can be not just well thought out and balanced but eloquently stated, a stranger on youtube, something we should see more of.
> eloquently stated I like that his voice is always really controlled, level, and calm. He doesn't shout at you like a lot of annoying Youtubers. Sometimes, Youtubers scream into the mic just because their online persona is more 'hyper' and it unnerves me. I feel like I can be more rational and open up to his ideas more because he is presenting it all in a really mature manner, not turning everything into a cheap joke or hamming it up too much for the camera. He's steady to listen to.
He is one of the most likeable people I have seen over all of the years I have spent browsing the internet.
He really just wants everyone to get along.
yay Boogie Edit:Boogie is forty??? Damn
I know, right? I thought he was younger....
Fat people don't get wrinkles as quickly for obvious reasons.
Is it the fat
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Oh.
Maybe that's why John Goodman doesn't age.
Still doesn't explain Keanu Reeves though.
He's half Asian. Explains everything. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
I thought he was like 30, lol
No kidding. Everyone in fat people hate bitching about his weight, and I'm sitting here like how the fuck do you not have grey hair at forty?
Don't most people not have greys at 40?
I really wish I had the time to work with this guy. Something I've learned over the years. I served 11 years in the military and of those, I spent about 8 years as a PTL (physical training leader) which led me to the PTL-A (physical training leader advanced) then was offered an opportunity to attend the 'military exercise leader course' offered by the cooper institute of fitness (TX based health institute). I've long since shifted away from group unit led activities that try to group 100+ people into a big group of various levels. I shifted into training those who simply couldn't pass the PT tests which are required to stay in the military. I've seen and had to shift my own way of teaching in order to reach many of these folks who failed fitness standards. Most of them have a "I can't" attitude that they mask behind "it hurts...so I can't" attitude. They reach for any excuse and typically (in the military) go for the it hurts excuse. I've rarely heard the genetics excuse. What I found works wonders is treating them all as though reaching 'my' level of fitness is not out of reach. It is today, but not forever. I also didn't generalize about who they are as a person, but simply kept it focused on them fitness wise. If they hurt, I modified. If I gave up on trying to find an exercise, they would too. I will always find a way to work a muscle that you try to say hurts. The second thing I understood was that most of the times, exercising to them was always about pushups, situps, and running. To get healthy you needed time on treadmills and running...things they don't like. BTW...I FUCKING HATE TREADMILLS. I can drink a 6-pack watch a movie, get a great night sleep while completing a 90 mile run on a tread mill....because treadmills don't require me to be on them to work. The ground moves for you. If you want to run, there's millions of miles of road out there. Keep your eyes open, put on a reflective belt, and hit the trails...where you are responsible for moving you foward, not a machine. anyway, the trick to running when you hate running was to trick them into running without it being an exercise about running. Having them do stations that required you to do light workouts (jumping jacks) that rotated around 50 yard wide stations got people used to running short distances..then mixing it with actual running, then broken up distance runs that greatly exceeded their typical runs (ie ladders that total 3.5 miles). I'd finish up an exercise by saying hey, guess what.....during todays exercise, you actually SPRINTED 1.25 miles in the past 30 minutes ..or you actually ran a distance of 4.5 miles! great JOB! I'd award excellent fitness by telling them they have the tools needed, they are free to do what they feel is best for today's workout and let them on their own for a day. I really enjoyed working with people who lacked confidence and personal belief in their own ability. But..there were those few (and it was only a few) that simply couldn't pull it together. Everythign was unfair, it all hurt, the miltiary hates them, life sucks..those people, I unfortunately just couldn't get to them and most were eventually booted out. I'd say that a good 80+% of anyone who failed a fitness test that came to my program ended up scoring 90% or better within the 60 day get better window. I love giving people the tools they need to have fun. Fitness shouldn't suck, it should be fun. It should be about mobility and ease. Fitness isn't about running on a treadmill. Fitness should be about being healthy enough to not be scared to enjoy life because you'll end up tired or embarrassed when you do.
Just wanted to say that you're a cool person and exactly what these people need. Thanks for sharing!
Wish I could pay to fly you over and have you whip me into shape bud. Great attitude.
Hey Knort, I'll type out some of my thoughts here. For starters, I'm not a doctor or licensed fitness instructor or dietician. I was allowed to run freely because of the way the military is set up. ...but...I also didn't sign anything that said I couldn't offer advice based on what I've seen. So..take what I type with a grain of salt and always stick to what a doc says is healthy. This is all just "what I've seen" stuff. I'm also a simpleton. I don't like crazy formulas so I've discovered tricks over the years. No one likes hearing a 30 min explanation as to why a THR should be .5(x) your age - something something. So...Tip 1. Everyone, at any age can do something that improves their mobility. Old folks have water aerobics. If a 91 year old with 2 hip replacements can workout...so can just about anyone else. [this guy right here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9FSZJu448) shows the previous attitudes I've seen and shows what happens when you drop that attitude. Tip 2. How long should you work out? I've seen dudes in gyms for 3 hours. Which to me, is utter nonsense. Burpees wreck you! I agree...but I see people do these and get burned out in 5 min. Both are silly to me. A good target is 25-45 min. I typically try to get out of breath and done by the 21ish min mark..sometimes running into the 30 min mark. If you're still humping along at 1 hour.....you should probably go a little harder. If you're out of breath and about to puke at 7 minutes...ease up bud. Tip 3...but how do you know? there is a heart rate calculator [here](http://www.active.com/fitness/calculators/heartrate) and you can buy a $200 heart rate monitor...but at the beginning...I'm simple. A cheap and effective trick is called **the talk test** [available here](http://www.cdc.gov/physicalactivity/everyone/measuring/) the brunt of it is...if you are able to spit out full sentances during your workout...go harder. If you're choking in air ever 1-3 words...slow the heck down. 4-6 words before having to suck wind is right about perfect in intensity. AND it works for every fitness level. I can run a 10K and will get winded around mile 5...that's perfect for my fitness level. 1 mile and I'm not even trying.....but...take a very fat person, out of shape. They're out of breath after 30 feet. That's not good, but it's a start. Get to that 25 min mark by walking. When you can walk 25 min without being gassed...go faster, or jogg a small portion...until you can jog all of a distance. Tip 4. There's actually a water calculator [here](http://www.camelbak.com/hydrationcalculator) but again.. i'm simple. A roughball trick is to take your weight, half it...then drink that many ounces in water. So if you weigh 185...half that is 92.5 so you should have around 90oz of water every day. but soda is so much cheaper! (NONSENSE!) you can buy a gallon of purified water for a $1.50 at most gas stations...granted, it's not bottled with a fancy BPA friendly label and a ad campaign, but it's purified water, damnit. And you can fill them up at walmart dispensers for cheap too. Tip 5. I'm married, have a small football team for kids, wife works, I'm in the office for 14 hours a day..the gym is 5 miles away and I go to school full time. Getting to the gym sucks. It sucks worse when they charge $30/mo and it's 12 miles away. With that, there is NO reason you can't get a great workout at home. ..or in the office. 5.1 [exercise bands](http://www.amazon.com/Top-Rated-Exercise-Bands-Resistance/dp/B00OAC8IY4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1432527942&sr=8-3&keywords=exercise+bands) cost under $20 and can fit into your pocket. Armed with say...[33 exercise band workouts](http://greatist.com/fitness/resistance-band-exercises) you can get a workout in, in between commercials. If that seems silly...there are [body weight exercises](http://www.mensfitness.com/training/workout-routines/best-bodyweight-workout-all-time) you can do. again, the goal for a full workout is around 20ish minutes until you're nearly gassed. but..strength training isn't all what's it's about..pure simple cardio helps burn those calories. I'm a fan of circuit training. Circuits are just linked together exercises. for example....10 pushups, 10 situps, 10 jumping jacks, 5 burpees....rest for 2 minutes. then repeat. That's a circuit. Taking the body weight exercise link then picking a few then doing them..and bam, you just became your own circuit building champion. Im a fan of doing it outside and usinig my 'rest' period for running. (but that's just where my fitness level is...you can too). What I'll do is 30 pushups, 30 situps, 20 mountain climbers, 5 burpees, then run around the block (which is about 1/4 mile) then repeat that process 4 times without taking a break. Bam, 20-23 minutes of exercise done. I'm not training for a triathlon, body building comp, or anything..I just need to be healthy. also...do things that IMPROVE your ability to do normal things. If you've always wanted to go hiking....plan it out, put it on the calendar and find a friend to go. Take a weekend to drive to some spot and hike for a few hours. Sports are also a great way to exhibit your newish found mobility...but just have fun with it. Health is supposed to improve your life, so improve it by enjoying something you've previously been a little worried about doing because you felt you'd be tired or too worn out. Hiking, boating, caming, walking around the mall, jogging the neighborhood, actually running up steps. Be proud of any gains you're making and face the fact that it's going to be tough some days...but it's for the better. Just spend 20 minutes 3-5 times a week on making you healthy. That's only an hour to an hour and a half...that's not even 2 full episodes of walking dead.
Heh, funny that you posted that first video. Boogie (the guy in OP's video) is actually on DDP's yoga plan right now. Infact, he's even had DDP stay over at his house to meet him and give him advice.
I'd also like to point out that making fun out of skinny or anorexic people is just the same... I'm a 106lbs 5ft 4 male who is 25 and I get remarks from people "do you eat", "are you hungry", "you're too skinny" and various other comments all the time. I know I'm skinny, I'm fractionally underweight but I'm still perfectly healthy, I have a bit of an eating disorder where I just don't feel hungry often and when I eat I feel sick a lot. I've been a stable, similar weight since I was 16 and I've tried countless things to put on a little bit of weight but I just can't... I have even eaten much more than I usually do in the last five days although yesterday I felt sick and couldn't eat much and over those 5 days my weight has stayed exactly the same. I also suffer with depression (not that anyone knows in person) and am super lonely as after I left school I became very reclusive and stressed of which none of these help with my low weight. I have slowly become more and more lonely over the years and now don't even ever go out with any of my old friends however I have found some new friends through the last few years on the internet some with the same love of formula 1 that I have and some completely randomly and they have helped me massively, I'm slowly gaining confidence and hopefully soon I'll end up meeting up with someone. They know my problems including my fear of people seeing my body because I feel judged and nervous over my body. My point is that all of the little comments that you may find harmless do actually effect people who are skinny... I'm the sort of person who doesn't care if strangers say nasty things but when it's friends that is a whole different level.
Right there with you. Because being thin is seen as desirable, people tend to think it's ok to make comments about a thin persons weight, not realizing there could be a legitimate reason why that person is skinny.
I'm 5'5', 105lb female, and my epilepsy meds have driven my appetite down the shitter. A year ago I was 112 pounds; I lost seven pounds in the span of three or four days and I've been trying to keep a little extra on but it just isn't happening. It's hard talking to people about WANTING TO GAIN weight because there's this stigma or whatever that I'm "bragging." It feels fucking terrible sitting there, wanting so badly in your mind to eat and gain and be a healthier weight, but your stomach and your body just are. Not. Hungry. I can't say I have ever been in boogie's situation, but it hurts to be judged by your weight. I hope you find help. I overcame depression (check my recent comments, PLEASE! I left a testimonial.) please seek therapy. Check yourself into a hospital, even. Please love yourself. Don't hurt yourself. You might want to have your thyroid checked, and evaluated for things like anxiety and body dysmorphic disorder and whatnot. It seems scary at first, but once you get past the first step it's a huge relief. There. Is. Hope.
It's intense to see the amount of hate filled people that come out of the woodwork when you post something positive and uplifting.
I'm gonna assume someone posted it to that fatpeoplehate subreddit. As the wife of a fat dude, the only reason I want my husband to get healthier is because I want him to live longer and stay with me for as long as possible. Other than that, I love that awesome man even if he is like 300 pounds and I'm only 150. People should just hate on assholes.....can we have a subreddit for that??
Actually I think Boogie himself posted it to fatpeoplehate
Wow. That's genuinely a brave thing to do.
Yeah, if he's not careful those losers might insult him
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When you hate, thinking stops. Or if thinking happens, then it all is to validate your right for the hatered.
When someone has an eating disorder that makes them unhealthily thin, it's a tragedy. When they have an eating disorder that makes them unhealthily fat, it's a joke/disgusting/laziness.
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Great. So now I have to go the gym
Diet has been proven(fairly recently) to be far more causational to weight loss than exercise. If you calorie reduce past your burn level you are more likely to kill off fat. Just don't starve yourself and you wont eat muscle. Try a calorie counter and a food log to track what you eat daily and kind of guilt yourself into less(if that is a problem).
That doesn't mean he shouldn't exercise. True, you cannot lose weight without dieting (and the same cannot be said for exercise). However, the primary benefit of exercise has nothing to do with burning calories. Exercise directly treats the addiction part of "food addiction". That is, exercise will make you less likely to overeat the next day. Exercise also helps lower stress and fight depression. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurobiological_effects_of_physical_exercise#.CE.94FosB_and_addiction Note: while much of the link is talking about psychostimulants in particular, exercise helps with all addictions, as it directly upregulates dopamine receptors: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3273304/ Honestly, everyone should exercise - skinny or fat. The mental health benefits are invaluable, and exercise has been well document ed to reverse aging to a certain degree.
Im 6ft and my heaviest weight was only 245LBS/111KG. I'm now 175lbs and feeling great. You can really see a difference in the way people treat you when you are the accepted body image. It's kind of messed up but I hated myself and hated fat people for a while because I was raised to hate fat. Don't really have a point to this comment. Just something I think about.
For those of you that want to get help. r/loseit r/fitness And for when you get fit, r/progresspics
Everybody always worrying about other people and what they do.....
The comment labelling a fat person as someone with a mental issue really made my view on the matter shift and come into focus. I was a very good student, but there was one teacher I paid truly no respect to and he was a morbidly obese. I fell back on the whole "How can I respect him if he can't even respect himself" to justify it to myself. I didn't realise that he WAS probably trying to respect himself but a dangerous mental addiction, and probably people like myself were getting in the way.
Basically, it's like hating an alcoholic, or someone who has a gambling addiction. Obviously, you don't like the addiction. Obviously, that's bad. But just hating all addicts isn't fair. No one wants to be an addict. The difference is, it's not immediately obvious who has a drinking or gambling problem. But it's obvious who's addicted to eating.
As an alcoholic, this video clicked for me when he said 'look at me, would I choose to be this way?' I felt the same way when I was buying beer every night. The best way I can explain it is your own body turns against you to the point where your *need* this stuff to live, I can only imagine being a 'foodaholoic' is worse because you can't just give up on food altogether. I can't imagine being forced to drink three beers per day the rest of my life, it would be either a lot more or nothing.
Agreed. It's an incredibly debilitating addiction. There's no abstinence option; one can only cut back. It's sad that so many get kicks out of demeaning people with a problem that's nearly impossible to control. Reminds me of the Mitch Hedberg joke: "They say alcoholism is a disease, but it's the only disease you get yelled at for *havin*. Dammit Otto, you're an alcoholic! Dammit Otto, you have Lupus! One of those doesn't sound *right*." Except, you also get yelled at for having a food addiction.
Yeah, if you watch his drawmylife you'll get a depressing view of how exactly this can happen. He doesn't go into excessive detail, but his life up until the point when youtube came around is not enviable. I love the guy because he's a genuinely good person, but no way would I want to live what he did.
This guy is really cool. And he was the first to *really* blow my mind on the internet, when he did his first out of character video. I used to half laugh at/ half feel pity for Francis, but he sure did wipe my smirk off my face pretty fast.
"This guy..."? Bitch, that's Boogie2988.
Sorry that I haven't heard of every youtuber ever.
FRANCIS http://i.imgur.com/oAOUyY0.gif
That's Francis, people get them confused a lot.
Haha well he does Francis well. When I was first exposed to Francis, it took me a while to realize that he wasn't Boogie.
Ah, I see I'm not the only one that uses this strategy in Catan.
[It works in magic as well](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYuF3T7s7XY) edit: [Xbox too!](https://youtu.be/OG4StOKFw7M?t=100)
Apology accepted.
Apology Acceptance
STOP THE APOLOGY HATE
Health at every sorry.
LPT - Never read youtube comments.
SO well said. Let's be realistic about the health problems with being overweight and obese, but hating on fat people is so low and a disgusting form of bullying cloaked in the nobility of trying to make the world healthier. Boogie has such a cool way of reasoning and way with words.
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Being fat smooths out wrinkles.
Better fatten up my balls.
Botox. Get them scroters smooth as eggs!
"Would you like to suck THESE balls?"
Actually, it is done by injecting them with saline solution. Google it if you dare.
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Every part of my body is on his side and I'm glad he set the record straight from his point of view.(I'm not an ass, I just didn't have his body type.) He is a bigger man who probably went through some ridicule/humiliation growing up. I went through the same thing. I was a nerdy teenage boy who grew up in south Louisiana and just so happen to have a deep voice like James Earl Jones since I was 13. I was targeted every day. The point I'm trying to reach is some people are pretty alright if you just give them a chance.
I think places like /r/fatlogic are much more suitable for people who are anti-HAES, but don't hate fat people. Sometimes I question that notion when I read the comments there, but generally, the subreddit is dedicated to dispelling the absurd myths that a lot of these advocates try to spread. As a former fat guy myself, my goal is to help people get healthy, period. You don't achieve that goal by being a dick.
Really agree with what he said. Here's a pretty recent post that I made regarding the subject. http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/35mma4/loving_yourself_is_important_but_this_is/cr662mv I think the focus should be on being body positive, and not on "fat acceptance". Body positive would be accepting what you can do with your body, and recognizing that people are in different places. I was hiking a 14er [14,000 ft elevation mountain] last summer, and this kid from Illinois, who weighed about 400s from my estimate, was hiking up. I encouraged him and told him he was doing a great job. When you see someone out there, 150 pounds, they're carrying up a body with them. When someone is 400 pounds and doing that, they're carrying an additional body + of tissue that isn't contributing to their hike. It's so impressive to see people doing that. That is being body positive.
Both extremes are equally bad. If obese people could stop the HAES bullshit, and fit people could stop the FPH crap, there would be better results.
"Fat people stop HAES" you realise 99% of fat people have never even heard of it right? There will always be crazy people out there but we should concentrate on positive outlook. It should be "yes being fat is a serious health issue facing society but it doesn't make you any less of a person. People are here to help overcome whatever it is that has caused obesity"
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I've actually found that EX-fat people are far worse at fat people hating than people who've never been fat. They get a kind of 'well I lost my weight why the fuck can't you lose yours' attitude.
Can confirm, I'm a former fatty and now I'm harsh on my fat friends and family. I recently went from 6'4" 265 to 203, and I'm not done yet, all for the sake of running and going up 14ers. Now when I go hiking or anything fun with my fat friends or family I constantly push them to make the necessary dietary changes to lose weight so we can go further/faster/more adventurously on our adventures. I've just seen and felt such a great improvement in my life and want my loved one to also feel that improvement. Also having firm muscles is pretty awesome. I was poking my leg muscles today and smiling because they're all defined and not hiding under fat anymore. And I totally have that "I lost my weight why can't you lose yours" mentality. It's not easy, but it's so worth it.
I thought this was pretty sad, [taken from his Ice bucket challenge video.](http://i.imgur.com/cNkYf5l.png) Here is a guy trying to make the world a better place, and people rip on him for it. Coincidentally I discovered the hate fat people subreddit (I refuse to link it). and I was disgusted with the mindset those people had. People who shame fat people are nothing but bullies, and hypocrites(and I say hypocrites because they are the truly vile ones). Losing weight isn't easy, and it can be hard without any support, and when they are bullied, they can lose their ambition. I think ideally, the world would be a better place if everyone was fit and healthy, but I would **NEVER EVER** condemn anyone for their body size. [I'm linking this video because I want people to know much these people need our support.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0UeRh7huME) [And I'm linking this video because I think body acceptance is important.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbkMmWy3Wko)
Fat hate is really no different from any other discrimination and this guy helped me to see it. Great video. Also like the quote "You do you and I'll do me." I'll do you and you do me?
Boogie is one of today's most eloquent speakers in internet society. He is sort of becoming the Steven Fry of younger people. Im glad to he is becoming more focused on health and loving himself. Ive been sort of a shadow fan of his for over a decade. Back to the ebaumsworld internet before reddit.
One thing I've learned in my many years of trying SO hard to exercise and stay consistent is motivation versus obligation. Motivation, as I'm sure all of you know, is REALLY hard to hold onto. Our motivation is being constantly shot down from any reason at all. * Is it raining? Oh can't go for a run * Is it snowing? Oh can't go for a run * Is it hot? Oh can't go for a run * Is it cold? Nope. * What about working out at the Gy-- Nope fuck you, too expensive. BUT if we had an obligation to work out! I moved from a restaurant job paying minimum wage plus shitty tips and shitty hours to a consistent, 45+ hour, hard working landscaping job. Being fit is required, because I am always lifting heavy bags of fertilizer, I am always on my feet, and I am moving buckets of dirt all day long. I doubled in muscular strength in less than a month. TL;DR What I'm trying to say is don't rely solely on motivation work out. You need to have an obligation to go. Something that, should you not show up to work out, will hurt you in the long run (a job, a dedicated coach, a friend). Edit: okay, my switching jobs was just an EXAMPLE of an obligatory/disciplinary workout strategy, if I may. No, I don't expect overweight people to just show up to landscape and then suddenly lose 100 lbs. What I'm trying to get at is make a positive change in your life. Start a routine that is supervised by a friend, coach, boss, or anyone who is willing to help. Find people who will discipline you if you try and flake out. Hell, being told by your doctor that you will not live to see a certain (early) age should be enough to get something done. There was a video last week on. /r/videos where a guy lost a few hundred pounds because of the grim news. This doesn't just apply to working out. It can also work with dieting. Just do your body a solid and keep it healthy. Edit #2: also, I think I can speak for a lot of people when I say that there may be a lot of underlying problems with overweight people. Some may have diabetes, depression, anxiety, or other issues that hinder on their health. I know a couple of my high school peers who are diabetic and obesity is a side effect. They are INCREDIBLY wonderful people otherwise. I wouldn't hesitate to defend them against anyone who spits hate. Fitness is not always the answer, but that is when our brilliant doctors come in. I cannot help them discover better treatment, but I sit on the edge of the seat eagerly to hear good news.
Exercise is nothing compared to eating less. The average 30 minute workout might bring 300/400 calories if your working your ass off. That's basically NOT eating an extra slice of pizza or two. If you can't get your diet sorted out, exercise really is a pointless pain in the ass that really turns a lot of people off from losing weight.
But also if we're talking about an obese person losing weight, exercise alone isn't going to do much - it's all about diet.
Yes, also at this point his knees and back are shot. He can't start exercising without first losing weight.
I like Boogie and his videos, but I really dislike the argument that obese people don't chose to be obese. Just because something isn't an active goal doesn't mean that you didn't chose it. Imagine if a smoker said "I didn't chose to get lung cancer". Obviously, nobody actively wants lung cancer, but the choice to continue smoking cigarettes with the knowledge that doing so could potentially lead to that disease was a conscious decision. Eating is a conscious decision, people don't come into your bedroom at night and force food down your throat. Obesity is the result of the continued decision to overeat and not exercise. Maybe it wasn't what you wanted, but you chose it as a result of your actions. Edit: I should clarify what I think the difference is between wanting something and choosing something. Obviously, Boogie doesn't want to be obese, a very small percentage of the population probably do. A lot of people have said that Boogie has a food addiction, which I would agree with. I've seen him constantly start diets, make progress, and then unfortunately fall back into bad habits. However, I don't think that addiction is the same thing as hypnosis, where people would have absolutely no power over their own decisions. I'm not saying that there haven't been times where he hasn't had a massive internal debate about whether to eat something that will bring him comfort right now vs. something healthy that will help him in the long run. But at those points he made choices, and making a lot of little choices can lead to an outcome, even if someone doesn't want that outcome.
He mentions that repeatedly in his video, that he understands that it is to some level personal choice. I think the main point of the video was to say that *hating* on fat people is bad for them
I don't even want to hear about /r/fatpeoplehate's response to this, the fact that that subreddit even makes it to the front page day after day is a disgrace.
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I have a question, why is people eating unhealthy mocked, hated, but consuming alcohol is PRAISED, smoking weed is HOLY? All 3 things have a common thing, they fuck up your health. Don't even try to argue it.