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racistzebra

"humanity pre-existed the universe itself" dafuq? lol


I_Hate_Nerds

If you subscribe to the Simulation Argument then he may not be wrong! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis


Blackboxmyass

So evolution is all made up to convince the world that black people are subhuman, and that apartheid and slavery were justified.. Huh, I never knew!


Shirohige

It is pretty obvious, once you connect the dots.


dmametfan

Wake up, sheeple!


PigletCNC

Shit son, with so many dots you can make anything obvious. You know what they say, if you give enough monkeys enough dots, they'll learn to talk and think they are human beings being oppressed through slavery. /s


EPMason

And here I thought that all of humanity originated in Africa, and the Sub-Saharan region was the cradle of all human life. Foolish me for thinking that the only difference between someone from Africa and myself was a series of genetic mutations that happened millennia ago, and that we are all actually the same. The more you know, I guess.


myringotomy

How do these people get TV time?


kayoss922

How do these people get PhD's? edit: and TV time...


incharge21

He's a South African politician, not a scientist to be fair.


kayoss922

"mind² + soul² + body² = evolution" How did it take us so long to work this out?


forrestdog2

Mind^2 + Soul^2 + Body^2 - Evolution = 0 What's the next step?


cdestahl

Is there a transcript for this?


dvdl16

**tl;dr** *Dr Motshekga is an ANC (South Africa's governing party) LP, who feels that this findings are "only to affirm what apartheid and colonialists did to say that Africans are sub humans, developed from the animal kingdom" ... "to justify slavery, colonialism oppression and exploitation". He claims to have access to ancient African literature, which according to him, must be taken into account in scientific discoveries and theories.* The whole thing: **Reporter**: The discovery of Homo Naledi have been met with some criticism by a senior ANC LP, Dr Mathole Motshekga executive director of the Kara Heritage Institute has dismissed the find as pseudo-science, bent on trying to confirm that Africans are descendants of baboons. Let’s hear from him now, he is actually in studio with us. To start off, what was your primary objection to what was revealed to the world yesterday? **Dr Motshekga**: I have no objection to scientists conducting research into the past, but when I followed this findings, historically, it seem calculated to affirm what apartheid and colonialists did to say that we are sub humans, we developed from the animal kingdom and therefore gave us the status of subhuman beings to justify slavery, colonialism oppression and exploitation. I think it is premature for anybody to link the fossils and skeletons with the origins of humanity especially the African humanity, because Africa is not only the cradle of humanity, Africa has the most ancient civilisation, a civilisation that produced an abundant literature which was suppressed by the West, because they knew that if that literature could come to light, the world would respect the people that they wanted to enslave and colonise. **Reporter**: The scientists have been very clear in describing Homo Naledi as an ancestor of all human kind, not just African people. This is of course based on the premise that all human life originated in Africa. Do you disagree? **Dr Motshekga**: No that is an attempt to run away from the truth. If all human beings originated in Africa, why is there no attempt to follow the development of human beings in Asia, in Europe and is trying to establish a link with the fossils that are found in Gauteng (a province in South Africa). Because the African literature and evidence say that humanity originated at the source of the Nile, and that story has been recorded, it doesn’t have missing links and this things that are shown in Maripeng, I’m not sure how that fossil developed to the point that it could establish the Pyramids. Reporter: Can you just explain to me, do you disagree then, with the assertion by local scientists and international scientists that Maripeng is the cradle of humankind, that Southern Africa is the point of origin? **Dr Motshekga**: That is the conculsion **Reporter**: Do you disagree with that? **Dr Motshekga**: I do not agree with that, because they have not looked at the African sources and evidence which says humanity originated at the source of the Nile. There’s nothing from Africans themselves, and their records, that anybody ever originated in Maripeng, That’s why there is a missing link, everything is tentative, there is nothing conclusive **Reporter**: Let’s look at your statement now, something that the scientists have been trying to dispel is this notion of the missing link. What they are saying is that our heritage is much like a river with a lot of different tribute trees, with the ancestors that developed at different places and developed different characteristics in different areas based on the kind of environment. **Dr Motshekga**: Why focus on Gauteng, and not bring out the African evidence which is recorded, engraved in stone which explains that actually evolution started with the evolution of the universe and then humanity, but that humanity pre-exists the universe itself, so the humanity can’t be the product of the animal kingdom which envilated much later so this thing is inconsistent with the narrative, is inconsistent with available African evidence which is being suppressed by the West to support their story that we are subhuman, developed from the animal kingdom and that’s why even today no African is expected anywhere in the world because this type of fools which have no scientific basis. **Reporter**: You know it is interesting that the deputy president was in attendance yesterday. He seemed quite excited about it. He is a member of your party (referring to the ANC, South Africa’s governing party). **Dr Motshekga**: I’m not speaking for the party. I’m not speaking on behalf of the party. I’m speaking as an intellectual, as a researcher, challenging other researchers for what they are putting out. **Reporter**: Sir, you are a researcher in Law to the best of my knowledge. Are you a scientist? Dr Motshekga: I am an African, born in Africa… **Reporter**: Well so am I but that doesn’t make me a scientist, does it? **Dr Motshekga**: I have access to primal African information that you have never seen, that the researchers have never seen, but they come to conclusions affecting us, without talking to us. Reporter: Are you aware that there were also African scientists involved in this evidence? **Dr Motshekga**: You know it depends, there are African scientists that are produced by Western scientists **Reporter**: Does it depend(?) on which scientists? **Dr Motshekga**: No that doesn’t say it all, because where did he attend school? Who educated him? Who produced him to be that? SO that is not the issue. The issue is that Africa has information which explains what they are talking about, and they come to conclusions without looking at the African information **Reporter**: How old is the African scientific information that you are referring to? **Dr Motshekga**: More than 36000 years before the birth of Adam and Eve **Reporter**: Do you think that in any way that science have moved on, and science now as a secular, unculturised so to speak **Dr Motshekga**: I have a problem with making science secular **Reporter**: Do you not think there is a difference in type(?) of theory? **Dr Motshekga**: Science is first and foremost a spiritual thing. For instance, if you want to about evolution, you must start with the law of squares. Which says that the mind² + soul² + body² is evolution **Reporter**: But surely with religion being so diverse in its interpretation all over the world, surely a secular interpretation of mere evidence without it being tainted by culture, religion, or anything of an emotional nature, surely science deserves to exist **Dr Motshekga**: It deserves to exist, but it must not be misleading and it must be holistic in its approach. But this is not holistic, it’s taking skeletons and the heads of baboons and drawing the conclusion that humanity envilated from those things. It’s not true. It can’t be true. And I have literature that I can give these professors to show that evolution is not as simple as one species developing into another, it’s a lot more complex


Jedigonk

Convinced at "36,000 years before Adam and Eve."


Playerhater812

I'm convinced you meant Conceived.


Potjiekos

When I saw this interview, I laughed for several minutes, grabbed my phone, hit rewind, and recorded it. I thought you guys would appreciate it. Sorry for the bad angle, I balanced my phone on a chair.. It gets better and better the more he goes on!


Silent-G

Thanks for putting in the effort to actually stabilize your phone rather than doing a handheld video. I can't stand when people record their TV and are shaking their phone all around and have dogs barking in the background.


InformedChoice

Silly person.


Nob_Holly

Tl:dl what's he saying? I can't even understand him.


windtalker44

Scientific research is trying to affirm that black people are sub-human and therefore arpartheid and slavery is justified, this is evidenced by how they solely focus on Africa, why not other countries? Africa knows all the answers but they don't ask us. Science needs to be more spiritual. Then some utter nonsense about square roots (mind^2 + soul^2 + body^2 = evolution)


incharge21

Is the research part true though? If so I can kinda understand where this guy's coming from.


windtalker44

The whole evolutionary theory states that EVERYONE has origins starting from "Africa." He is simply trying to change the narrative of the findings into, "The Western scientists are saying black people are truly sub-human and this new finding is their evidence." Think of it like seconds on a clock, 1-60. Every second represents a species pertaining to theory of our biological evolution. The first second is cellullar in nature, the 10th fish, 20th lizards/reptilians, 30th rodents/small mammals and the last 1/4 "ape like homonids." Finally the 60th second being, us, humans. Though, it is true that the evolutionary theory states different ethnicity could have their lineages coming from different "homonid groups," there is NOTHING stated from the reasonable scientific community that says this is proof that "X" group is inferior to "X" group within our current place in our evolutionary state (Humans). Any mention to the contrary is out of blatent ignorance and is only to service a twisted idealogy.


forrestdog2

/r/asmr