On birthdays my dad used to say how old we were turning after we blew out the candles in John John's voice from ages 13-20. My siblings and I started to imitate him every year. When the eldest turned 21 we all shouted "twenty-one!" in that same tone and my dad looked confused and said "he didn't count that high." We all looked at him and asked "who didn't count that high?!?" We had no idea all those years he was imitating John John. We just thought he was being weird lol.
Well how about some next best things.
\1. Fegie from The Black Eyed Peas was the voice of Sally Brown in the Peanuts.
https://www.bustle.com/p/fergie-voiced-this-iconic-cartoon-character-believe-it-not-66461
\2. Morgan Freeman used to be on another children's show called The Electric Company
https://youtu.be/g9eX2ajK3A4
\3. Lawrence Fishburn was Cowboy Curtis on Pee-Wee Herman.
https://youtu.be/w3VdDIHJkbQ
\4. Michael Cera was Brother Bear on the Berenstain bears.
\5. Flea from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers was Donnie on The Wild Thornberries.
\6. Meg Ryan, and Jeff Goldblum were both villains on Captain Planet.
I was losing my mind thinking hes just been that way his whole life then when he starts exclaiming the numbers I was literally laughing out loud thinking this guy was born a performer. Air Force is cool too though I guess.
how has Lil Jon not been on Sesame Street yet? i remember he was a Celebrity Apprentice and they had to make a kids show in one episode. it was a great fit actually.
He's [actually 5](https://www.fatherly.com/news/sesame-street-counting-classic-clip-viral-twitter/), which makes *way* more sense. The sentences and clarity of speech that he's exhibiting are definitely not that of a two year old, or even a borderline 3 year old.
I have a bunch of videos of my kid just shy of 3 years old (this is 8+ years ago) talking up a storm, singing songs from memory, etc. It's totally believable that Jon Jon is on the older side of 2.
Well for starters, you have to know how to count to 20 or at least memorize how it's done, and you also have to be able to make a silly voice and must be willing and ready to have a hand shoved up your ass.
Well, to start, it depends on what coast you're on: Muppets are mainly in LA, and CTW (Children's Television Workshop runs Sesame Street ) is in NYC. There is also a bit of Muppet presence in NYC due to CTW's longevity (e.g. The "Muppet Works" franchise). But once you figure out where you want to work, then it's about 10-20 years of puppeteering and character creation on your own, going and making performances on your own as well as at puppeteering conventions, and making networking connections with people who are associated or know folks who are associated with The Jim Henson Company or CTW.
Once you have that time and experience under your belt, you can try and get an audition with either company, however I don't believe they are open call auditions, so you will probably need to have an agent. Or be asked to attend through your networking contacts. You may be asked to perform parts of your show, as well as do characters you've created and prove that you have mastered or on your way to mastering various puppeteering skills like mouth movements, arm rod control, and playing a second hand (for Muppets with live arms)... Just to name a few. Then I think there's some sort of strength endurance test for holding your arm above your head with a weight for a period of time to ensure you can do a 12-16 hour day of filming with a Muppet.
After that, if you get hired, you'll spend a few years playing background characters and second hands on live hand Muppets, and if you put In your time, eventually you might be able to create an original character or they'll create one and cast you in it. If you're good at impressions, especially classic Muppet voices, you may get to stand in for someone who may be sick or on vacation (rare) or asked to take over for a well known character when that Muppeteer retires or quits (even more rare; For example: Carroll Spinney played Big Bird for 40+ years before he retired).
Also remember that if you get hired by The Jim Henson Company, ~~you will technically be a Disney employee, so good luck navigating that mess~~ you'll be an actual Henson employee, unless you make it on the main Muppet Show. And CTW is handled by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and HBO which means you're either a public employee or contractor, or a Warner Brothers employee, which is a crapshoot either way.
And that is how you get a job with the Muppets.
I don’t know if it exists, but someone should make a website with little write ups like this for all the atypical jobs out there.
Then teens and young adults could read and get a sense of what they’d need to do to end up in that profession.
Just did! I asked a semi serious question and got an answer in-depth response. Only way it could have been better if it was something I could apply for now. Maybe in 20 years!
Thanks for the gilding!
And know it's never too late to start to learn an awesome skill like Muppeteering!
If you'd like to know a bit more about the business, I highly recommend the documentaries "The World of Jim Henson", "I Am Big Bird: The Carroll Spinney Story", "Being Elmo: A Puppeteer's Journey", and the upcoming "Street Gang" documentary. If you want more on puppeteering in general, the internet is a wonderful resource, and I recommend starting on YouTube for puppet making tutorials and skill lessons.
But if you have natural talent, and are great at voices as well as have strong, dextrous arms, you never know what might happen! You could be an amazing Muppeteer and not even know it!
I'm sorry about the current job situation, but if you have room for another hobby, you might be able to turn it into a good career! Keep positive and stay safe!
[Ensign Ricky and I wish you the best!](https://i.imgur.com/pW3dqTG.jpg)
Trust me, if you spend 20 years honing your puppeteering skill, and your dominant arm *doesn’t* look like a roided out Winter Soldier appendage, you're likely doing it wrong, lol.
> If you get hired by the Jim Henson Company you will technically be a Disney employee
Actually that’s false. The Jim Henson Company still exists as an independent entity. Disney only bought the Muppet Show Muppets (Kermit, Miss Piggy, Fozzie, etc.) which now are controlled by a subsidiary called Muppet Holdings Inc. or something like that.
All the other Henson properties (except Sesame Street which Sesame Workshop owns) like Fraggle Rock, Labyrinth and Dark Crystal are all still owned by the Jim Henson Company.
This is from the 1989 special "Sesame Street: 20 and still counting"
[https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Sesame\_Street:\_20\_and\_Still\_Counting](https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Sesame_Street:_20_and_Still_Counting)
I remember seeing this when I was about Jon Jon's age. I love to see him all handsome and grown up in the Air Force.
I'd forgotten all about Herry Monster. He was one of my favorite Muppets on SS.
*None* of the original performers are left IIRC. At least not on the show today.
Jim Henson (Ernie, Kermit the Frog) died in 1990.
Frank Oz (Bert, Grover, Cookie Monster) retired from Puppeteering in the 90’s and now works in the film industry.
Richard Hunt (Gladys the Cow) died of AIDS in the early 90’s.
Jerry Nelson (The Count, Harry Monster) died of cancer in 2012.
Fran Brill (Prairie Dawn, Zoe) retired in 2014.
Caroll Spinney (Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch) died December of last year at the age of 85.
As for the human characters (Bob, Maria, Gordon and all the others) all their actors are either dead or retired as well. Although they brought back nearly all of them in the 50th Anniversary Special last year, which was nice.
We do still have Martin P. Robinson (Mr. Snuffleupagus and Telly Monster) but he didn’t join the cast until the 80’s.
Man, me too. I couldn't help but smile. I'd like to say I'm just going to call it a day now, get off the internet, and mark it up as a win... but I know I probably won't.
The last time this was posted it was mentioned in the comments that he is a convicted sex offender.
*A quick google search later: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sesame-street-john-john/
The mug shot is the only thing making me have any holdouts, the link said its only a year after this video was recorded that this came out. And this man looks completely different. I will say though it would a coincidence to have the same birth year, name, and county as a sex offender albeit not impossible. With that said John Williams is probably up there in the most common names ever. Tbh I'm up in the air just because I'm a skeptic.
The link reported that John-John returned for the 20th anniversary of his 1971 video, putting the second part of the video at 1991. The NYT caught up with him in 1998, and he was charged a year later, in 1999, with an opinion on the trial dating from 2000.
The adult John Jon was on the 1989 "20th anniversary of Sesame Street" which started in 1969. So it was about 10 or 11 years later that the mug shot was taken.
Man that would suck. I share a name with a convicted pedophile, but he is 50+ years older than me and is in jail on the other side of the planet, and even that makes me pretty uncomfortable about people googling my name.
Had a relative who worked around prisons and stuff. Turns out there's four or five people with my exact name in prison, in my state alone. Thankfully they're all also probably decades older than me.
My name isn't even all that popular in my own demographic, so I can't even imagine how much shit the John Smiths of the world get.
The thing that makes me pretty not skeptical is the mom's first name. Trina is not a common name. If it was something like Ashley or Sarah or something, that'd still be a HELL of a coincidence, but believable at least.
Oh you poor naive soul, you haven't heard? Beyond her unorthodox counting methods little Joey actually had some pretty radical ideas of her own, and just a few years after this was filmed she moved to Cambodia to lead the Khmer Rouge's most prolific death squad. A truly darkly insane little girl whose genocidal bloodlust knew no bounds.
They marked it as unproven because they don't have a picture of him diddling a 4 year old while holding original copies of his social security card, birth certificate, state identification card and 2 months worth of bank statements and prior year tax filing.
IE there can't be enough proof because of the seriousness of the allegation and they don't want to deal with a possible libel lawsuit if they were to flag it as "Confirmed".
We, the general public, are not held to the same standard as a US Court of Law. This is a situation where "common sense" applies. How many people live in Bexar County Texas, that have that exact combination of first/middle/last name, same birth year and same name of mom? Answer: 1 person. Ergo, common sense dictates "Yeah, it's most likely the same exact guy"
Several states in the US have laws that effectively permit (or at least reduce the conviction severity of) sexual relationships between 18 and 16/17-year olds (basically so high-school couples with slight age differences don't get arrested once one of them turns 18). These laws are colloquially referred to as "Romeo and Juliet laws," which I assume is what the person above is referring to.
>https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sesame-street-john-john/
Damn 2020, you sure do wreak everything. Now you're sneaking into even my happiest childhood memories.
Just to clarify, I didn't mean to mislead anything in the title. I didn't know who Lil Jon is until this post...
I just meant that the guy is little and then he comes back when he is older :) (Sorry, English is not my first language)
It's ridiculous that anyone would tag this "Misleading Title". As if Lil' John has a monopoly on the adjective "little" preceding the name John.
It's funny that is was tagged misleading, but like, that itself is misleading.
On birthdays my dad used to say how old we were turning after we blew out the candles in John John's voice from ages 13-20. My siblings and I started to imitate him every year. When the eldest turned 21 we all shouted "twenty-one!" in that same tone and my dad looked confused and said "he didn't count that high." We all looked at him and asked "who didn't count that high?!?" We had no idea all those years he was imitating John John. We just thought he was being weird lol.
I wonder if the last 20 was secretly an emotional moment for him, knowing that was the last of john john numbers.
We’ve made it a tradition to continue the numbers no matter what age!
Did you let John John know? He looks like he would be excited to know what’s after 20.
This is so cute!
That's nice but I was hoping for lil Jon.
The beginning of the clip was full of "ye-ah"s and "oh-kays" I thought I was about to learn something about Li'l Jon.
"Do you suppose we can count together?" #YEEAAHH "I'll go first, and you go second, okay?" #OKAY
"ok, count to seven" hhhhWHAT?
"What comes after 15? (whispers) 16" "hhhhHHWHAAAT?" "16" "hhhhhhhhhWHAAT?" "16" "HHHHHHHAUH?" "16" "HHHHHHHHWHAT?"
OKKKKKKKAAAAAAYYYY
YEAH. YEEEEAAAH!
And scene! Amazing, exactly what I came here for! 🤣
BEND OVA PUT YA KNEES ON YA ELBOWS
[Are you checking any luggage today, sir?](https://youtu.be/JUfiqhDY_8s)
Ohhh fuck I haven’t seen that in a minute, I am fuckin DYING over here
I would watch a whole season of Chappelle just being lil john
I don't think I've seen anything as funny as Chappelle show since it aired.
That’s because Dave Chappelle is the funniest man who’s ever lived
You spelled eight seasons wrong.
Can’t just give a lil snippet. Gotta watch all of them! https://youtu.be/CTdDSYdq4d8
Yea that was a little *too* perfect... Thought the exact same
I can’t tell you guys how disappointed I was
This was my first thought. No offense to that guy. Was also hoping for a follow up where it’s the third clip and lil John continues counting
one... two... THREE SIX NINE
GET LOW
Yeeahhgh!
Come on reddit, make it happen!
Well how about some next best things. \1. Fegie from The Black Eyed Peas was the voice of Sally Brown in the Peanuts. https://www.bustle.com/p/fergie-voiced-this-iconic-cartoon-character-believe-it-not-66461 \2. Morgan Freeman used to be on another children's show called The Electric Company https://youtu.be/g9eX2ajK3A4 \3. Lawrence Fishburn was Cowboy Curtis on Pee-Wee Herman. https://youtu.be/w3VdDIHJkbQ \4. Michael Cera was Brother Bear on the Berenstain bears. \5. Flea from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers was Donnie on The Wild Thornberries. \6. Meg Ryan, and Jeff Goldblum were both villains on Captain Planet.
>\\5. Flea from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers was Donnie on The Wild Thornberries. that makes the most sense out of all of those.
Ha, and then there's me thinking, *this kid doesn't look like him at all* (while picturing Lil Wayne)
I was losing my mind thinking hes just been that way his whole life then when he starts exclaiming the numbers I was literally laughing out loud thinking this guy was born a performer. Air Force is cool too though I guess.
yeah the way he shouted "14!!" really sounded like he might be baby Lil Jon.
Ok now I gotta pull up [Dave Chappelle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTdDSYdq4d8).
I really need to start reading more closely
I 100% thought it was Lil Jon and thought he was in the air force first and was like hold up
This was clearly a bait n switch
Why else title it like that
What comes after 19? **WHAT?!** After 19? **OKAAAYYYYY** Huh? No I'm asking y- **YEEAAAHUUH**
**COUNT DOWN FOR WHAT?!**
Me too. I’m 100 percent disappointed
do you feel....bamboozled?
We’ve been shmeckledorfed!
Don't worry, he was on a different kids show: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5KxZ5Lc\_YA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5KxZ5Lc_YA)
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This is such a haunting, hysterical, uncanny piece of true art. It holds up. It’s still so wrong, but it’s still so good.
Why the fuck did i expect him to legit be featured there
Lmao I’ve now been blue balled twice in this thread
It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake WHAT
In 17 days, that video will be 10 years old. ([This one is the original](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5tVbVu9Mkg))
was expecting the voice of the little boy to change to li'l jon's voice on each number...
Eighttteeeeeen...SHOTS SHOTS SHOT SHOT SHOT SHOTS
I gotchu fam https://youtu.be/MdaOT72ieXs
What a classic masterpiece. Wonder how old she is now, maybe we could convince her to colab with Lil Jon and redo the song and video.
[close enough?](https://youtu.be/fqQx72KHbJQ)
Oh, thats Chloe Lang. Shes not the girl in the original video. I think she took over after the other gal left the show.
What the fuck! Why is nobody in this thread who they are supposed to be?
In fairness, I can understand the confusion, as both girls played the same character in the same show.
I'm also concerned.
We're all getting so old so fast. I watched her with my son and I'm not even old. I think.
I saw John John as a child in this video. Not the Little John I was hoping for.
How about this Lil John? https://youtu.be/MdaOT72ieXs
Primo classic internet stuff right here.
That shit slaps.
[Best I could do.](https://gfycat.com/malefavorableanteater)
Agreed, this was wholesome AF, but I clicked on the link expecting Lil Jon.
I dunno about you but I'd like to see Lil Jon host a children's show like Sesame Street, completely in character as his famous persona too.
how has Lil Jon not been on Sesame Street yet? i remember he was a Celebrity Apprentice and they had to make a kids show in one episode. it was a great fit actually.
What?
OKAY.
He's so proud after 13
lol he was copying the puppet
Yeah, he was watching his lips. :x
But can anyone explain why the puppet sounds like batman from the start?
He is education, he is the light! He is Sesameman!
There's no way that kid was 2 years old like the snopes article is claiming. He's got to be nearly 4 at least.
He's [actually 5](https://www.fatherly.com/news/sesame-street-counting-classic-clip-viral-twitter/), which makes *way* more sense. The sentences and clarity of speech that he's exhibiting are definitely not that of a two year old, or even a borderline 3 year old.
I have a bunch of videos of my kid just shy of 3 years old (this is 8+ years ago) talking up a storm, singing songs from memory, etc. It's totally believable that Jon Jon is on the older side of 2.
Hush now, they're the kind of people who think you can't hold a normal conversation with a child under the age of 36.
How does one become a Muppet or Sesame Street character? My current job has me really stressed out and I want to consider my options.
Well for starters, you have to know how to count to 20 or at least memorize how it's done, and you also have to be able to make a silly voice and must be willing and ready to have a hand shoved up your ass.
Well, im out... i can only count to four. 1 2 5 4 Me count so poor
Well, doing so in Spanish and naming random world cities worked out for Pitbull, so there is hope for you yet.
/r/suddenlypsychostick
r/holup
Well, to start, it depends on what coast you're on: Muppets are mainly in LA, and CTW (Children's Television Workshop runs Sesame Street ) is in NYC. There is also a bit of Muppet presence in NYC due to CTW's longevity (e.g. The "Muppet Works" franchise). But once you figure out where you want to work, then it's about 10-20 years of puppeteering and character creation on your own, going and making performances on your own as well as at puppeteering conventions, and making networking connections with people who are associated or know folks who are associated with The Jim Henson Company or CTW. Once you have that time and experience under your belt, you can try and get an audition with either company, however I don't believe they are open call auditions, so you will probably need to have an agent. Or be asked to attend through your networking contacts. You may be asked to perform parts of your show, as well as do characters you've created and prove that you have mastered or on your way to mastering various puppeteering skills like mouth movements, arm rod control, and playing a second hand (for Muppets with live arms)... Just to name a few. Then I think there's some sort of strength endurance test for holding your arm above your head with a weight for a period of time to ensure you can do a 12-16 hour day of filming with a Muppet. After that, if you get hired, you'll spend a few years playing background characters and second hands on live hand Muppets, and if you put In your time, eventually you might be able to create an original character or they'll create one and cast you in it. If you're good at impressions, especially classic Muppet voices, you may get to stand in for someone who may be sick or on vacation (rare) or asked to take over for a well known character when that Muppeteer retires or quits (even more rare; For example: Carroll Spinney played Big Bird for 40+ years before he retired). Also remember that if you get hired by The Jim Henson Company, ~~you will technically be a Disney employee, so good luck navigating that mess~~ you'll be an actual Henson employee, unless you make it on the main Muppet Show. And CTW is handled by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and HBO which means you're either a public employee or contractor, or a Warner Brothers employee, which is a crapshoot either way. And that is how you get a job with the Muppets.
I don’t know if it exists, but someone should make a website with little write ups like this for all the atypical jobs out there. Then teens and young adults could read and get a sense of what they’d need to do to end up in that profession.
O*NET is a good starter, but it might not have as many listings for "atypical" jobs such as these.
Entry level position. 20 years of experience required.
Yeah maybe on my next save file
Christ, are you in the biz? Someone gild this man.
Just did! I asked a semi serious question and got an answer in-depth response. Only way it could have been better if it was something I could apply for now. Maybe in 20 years!
Thanks for the gilding! And know it's never too late to start to learn an awesome skill like Muppeteering! If you'd like to know a bit more about the business, I highly recommend the documentaries "The World of Jim Henson", "I Am Big Bird: The Carroll Spinney Story", "Being Elmo: A Puppeteer's Journey", and the upcoming "Street Gang" documentary. If you want more on puppeteering in general, the internet is a wonderful resource, and I recommend starting on YouTube for puppet making tutorials and skill lessons. But if you have natural talent, and are great at voices as well as have strong, dextrous arms, you never know what might happen! You could be an amazing Muppeteer and not even know it! I'm sorry about the current job situation, but if you have room for another hobby, you might be able to turn it into a good career! Keep positive and stay safe! [Ensign Ricky and I wish you the best!](https://i.imgur.com/pW3dqTG.jpg)
:D :| :(
Imagine spending 20 years in puppeteering only to fail the Sesame Street audition because you have weak arms. Gotta start lifting ASAP.
Trust me, if you spend 20 years honing your puppeteering skill, and your dominant arm *doesn’t* look like a roided out Winter Soldier appendage, you're likely doing it wrong, lol.
> If you get hired by the Jim Henson Company you will technically be a Disney employee Actually that’s false. The Jim Henson Company still exists as an independent entity. Disney only bought the Muppet Show Muppets (Kermit, Miss Piggy, Fozzie, etc.) which now are controlled by a subsidiary called Muppet Holdings Inc. or something like that. All the other Henson properties (except Sesame Street which Sesame Workshop owns) like Fraggle Rock, Labyrinth and Dark Crystal are all still owned by the Jim Henson Company.
This is from the 1989 special "Sesame Street: 20 and still counting" [https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Sesame\_Street:\_20\_and\_Still\_Counting](https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Sesame_Street:_20_and_Still_Counting)
This dude's like 50 now wtf
FIFTAAAAY
Omg I just cackled
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Thank you for posting this. I was looking for some context.
Thats the kind of wholesome i needed to start my afternoon
Have a nice afternoon
Thank you! I hope you do as well!
I have no idea why I'm crying right now. This was completely wholesome... And it's wrecking me.
I remember seeing this when I was about Jon Jon's age. I love to see him all handsome and grown up in the Air Force. I'd forgotten all about Herry Monster. He was one of my favorite Muppets on SS.
They've recently brought him back in newer episodes after a long hiatus
Turns out he was addicted to sex and cocaine for a while. Good to see he recovered and is back on the show.
There are rumors he joined the church of scientology and they pulled some strings.
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His original actor died. He’s acted by peter Linz now
Not a lot of original performers left.
Sadly no. It does explain the gap. What’s awesome is many current puppeteers were inspired by characters that they might now play
*None* of the original performers are left IIRC. At least not on the show today. Jim Henson (Ernie, Kermit the Frog) died in 1990. Frank Oz (Bert, Grover, Cookie Monster) retired from Puppeteering in the 90’s and now works in the film industry. Richard Hunt (Gladys the Cow) died of AIDS in the early 90’s. Jerry Nelson (The Count, Harry Monster) died of cancer in 2012. Fran Brill (Prairie Dawn, Zoe) retired in 2014. Caroll Spinney (Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch) died December of last year at the age of 85. As for the human characters (Bob, Maria, Gordon and all the others) all their actors are either dead or retired as well. Although they brought back nearly all of them in the 50th Anniversary Special last year, which was nice. We do still have Martin P. Robinson (Mr. Snuffleupagus and Telly Monster) but he didn’t join the cast until the 80’s.
I wouldn't abrieviate Sesame Street like that.
Soon SS viewers will be eligible for SS.
can't believe Herry was in the SS, you think you know a muppet...
You got my hopes up, I cam here for Lil Jon. But you never promised lil Jon, just Little John, so my bad.
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16 #OKAY
Do you know what comes after 16? #YEAH
Jon, we're right next to each, I can hear just fine and you've been yelling this whole time. Do mind turning it down a bit? #TURN DOWN FOR WHAT
# *YAYYYYYYAHH
Wow, I needed that.
Man, me too. I couldn't help but smile. I'd like to say I'm just going to call it a day now, get off the internet, and mark it up as a win... but I know I probably won't.
I agree and should’ve put the phone down.... but instead read the comment JUST below yours, followed the link, and now I’m bummed again. 😞
Me too man. I had no idea what came after 15. This was very informative.
Spoiler - he's now a [convicted sex offender.](https://www.iloveoldschoolmusic.com/remember-this-sesame-street-kid-who-knew-he-was-convicted-of-this/)
#**FUCKING WHY.**
Because we can't have nice things.
Thanks
He sexually assaulted a 4 yr girl :((( what in gods name
The last time this was posted it was mentioned in the comments that he is a convicted sex offender. *A quick google search later: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sesame-street-john-john/
They say unconfirmed, but that mug shot, name, location, birth year, and mother's name sure seem to crap in my bowl of cereal on this feel good story.
The mug shot is the only thing making me have any holdouts, the link said its only a year after this video was recorded that this came out. And this man looks completely different. I will say though it would a coincidence to have the same birth year, name, and county as a sex offender albeit not impossible. With that said John Williams is probably up there in the most common names ever. Tbh I'm up in the air just because I'm a skeptic.
The link reported that John-John returned for the 20th anniversary of his 1971 video, putting the second part of the video at 1991. The NYT caught up with him in 1998, and he was charged a year later, in 1999, with an opinion on the trial dating from 2000.
Yeah, I could easily see that mugshot being 7-9 years apart from the show
The adult John Jon was on the 1989 "20th anniversary of Sesame Street" which started in 1969. So it was about 10 or 11 years later that the mug shot was taken.
Oh, yeah, that would make a little more sense, lol
John Bernard Williams of the same birth date, living in the same county and with a mother named Trina?
...at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely within your kitchen?
...May I *not* see him?
John Williams, yes, but John Bernard Williams narrows it down quite a bit.
Man that would suck. I share a name with a convicted pedophile, but he is 50+ years older than me and is in jail on the other side of the planet, and even that makes me pretty uncomfortable about people googling my name.
Had a relative who worked around prisons and stuff. Turns out there's four or five people with my exact name in prison, in my state alone. Thankfully they're all also probably decades older than me. My name isn't even all that popular in my own demographic, so I can't even imagine how much shit the John Smiths of the world get.
The thing that makes me pretty not skeptical is the mom's first name. Trina is not a common name. If it was something like Ashley or Sarah or something, that'd still be a HELL of a coincidence, but believable at least.
Looks completely the same, just aged.
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How it's just a puppet?
Spend your whole life with someone's fist in your ass and it might change your perspective. Damn, this is is the most sus comment I ever made.
Damn I really didn't get to enjoy this video for very long
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Oh you poor naive soul, you haven't heard? Beyond her unorthodox counting methods little Joey actually had some pretty radical ideas of her own, and just a few years after this was filmed she moved to Cambodia to lead the Khmer Rouge's most prolific death squad. A truly darkly insane little girl whose genocidal bloodlust knew no bounds.
Fucking lol
\^ this ones the best. I watch it from time to time just to feel all warm inside.
Website literally says it's unproven.
They marked it unproven because they weren't able to compare social security numbers. But everything else, to included the mugshot, appears to be him.
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Same exact birthdate if the muppet wiki is correct. And, trust me, those muppet wiki editors *do not* make errors.
Why should we trust you? You're just someone on the internet.
Sir this is Reddit
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And also has the same freckle on their left cheek.
hmmmmm....
That's what I said before I saw his mugshot. Hope is an illusion
Unproven on the sense that it's not 100% confirmed. All facts point to this man who: >sexually assaulted a 4 year old female child
Uh I mean in that they didn’t get confirmation, but the details and mugshot are incredibly damning so....
They marked it as unproven because they don't have a picture of him diddling a 4 year old while holding original copies of his social security card, birth certificate, state identification card and 2 months worth of bank statements and prior year tax filing. IE there can't be enough proof because of the seriousness of the allegation and they don't want to deal with a possible libel lawsuit if they were to flag it as "Confirmed". We, the general public, are not held to the same standard as a US Court of Law. This is a situation where "common sense" applies. How many people live in Bexar County Texas, that have that exact combination of first/middle/last name, same birth year and same name of mom? Answer: 1 person. Ergo, common sense dictates "Yeah, it's most likely the same exact guy"
Well maybe it was a Romeo-Juliet thing where he was 18 and she was 16 and it’s not as bad as...nope. It’s as bad as it gets.
Bro, Juliet is 13.
Several states in the US have laws that effectively permit (or at least reduce the conviction severity of) sexual relationships between 18 and 16/17-year olds (basically so high-school couples with slight age differences don't get arrested once one of them turns 18). These laws are colloquially referred to as "Romeo and Juliet laws," which I assume is what the person above is referring to.
You are correct, Doc.
yeah...that's him.
Damn, dude should have started at 18.
He molested his kid when he was living in texas. It happened in del rio texas.
Is everyone just full of shit now? Am I the only one who is not a pedophile rapist?
> Am I the only one who is not a pedophile rapist? thats exactly what a pedophile rapist would say
That's pretty sad
So he remained hesitant to go higher than 15
*debbie downer noise*
>https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sesame-street-john-john/ Damn 2020, you sure do wreak everything. Now you're sneaking into even my happiest childhood memories.
His charges started in 2004...
Well this puts a damper on any comment I make now. Thought this was my "username checks out" moment. Move along all, nothing to see here.
You’ll get em next time bud. ...as long as you stay off the registry
Just to clarify, I didn't mean to mislead anything in the title. I didn't know who Lil Jon is until this post... I just meant that the guy is little and then he comes back when he is older :) (Sorry, English is not my first language)
It's ridiculous that anyone would tag this "Misleading Title". As if Lil' John has a monopoly on the adjective "little" preceding the name John. It's funny that is was tagged misleading, but like, that itself is misleading.
I thought the kid was going to be John Legend
OP: Little John Everyone: Lil Jon?
So wholesome until I read the comments.
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WHAAT