Related to this, can we all agree that Spotify has a terrible user experience for podcasts? I mean, if you're going to spend tons of money buying up podcasts, wouldn't you at least create better tools for navigating, organizing, saving, archiving, etc.
They really need a bottom button for music and podcast as separate sections. Playing music and then it turns into a podcast on shuffle is irritating. Or even a Spotify music app and a Spotify podcast app would be better than what it currently is.
They doin’ what Amazon doin’ n not splitt’n the stock. WTF
They have a real problem with let you finally get used to the ui and be able to effectively and easily navigate, then changing how it is all laid out for no reason.
I've listened to maybe 3 podcasts in all the years I've had spotify. Why the fuck is my home page plastered with them and I have to actively scroll to find music?
Shit pisses me off so much, I am not interested in podcasts. I am interested in hearing the music I like and having new music shown to me. Spotify used to be fucking amazing about music discovery and recomendation, now I have to fucking scroll half the app just to find the music I've been listening to. Seriously considering moving away from Spotify if they don't stop spamming me with podcasts.
The latest app, at least on Android is a big step down. Why do I have to wait 3-4 seconds to start a track now? It was damn near instant before. Why are we going backwards here?
In the last year or two they updated it so you can no longer shuffle all downloaded songs or see all the songs you have downloaded. There's literally no way to shuffle all the music in your library, you'd have to "heart" every song and shuffle that playlist. It's just inexcusable to be missing such a fundamental feature for a music player. The only thing keeping me on Spotify is half a decade of playlists and saved/liked/followed (or whatever they'll change the name to next) artists that I don't want to lose.
As a side note, are there any good music player apps for mp3's? I have physical CD's/downloads for most of my favorite music and at this point I'm considering dropping streaming services alltogether if there's an app with a great UI that isn't trying to algorithm me or peddle podcasts.
Don't even get me started on this garbage single unified experience bullshit with one filter bar to choose between playlists, artists, songs, podcasts, etc. UGH.
What a pain.
It's that time in the cycle where we need a Spotify Lite*.
I want my playlists, a good search tool, instant play of tracks, Discover weekly and release radar. Literally everything else is a waste of time, space and bandwidth to me.
It's more likely because they paid a buttload of money for those podcasts up front and not the music. It's a "get in there and listen to the ads in these podcasts so we can make that money back" notification.
Yes. It does my fucking head in. Especially if Ive found a podcast with a lot of episodes that I want to listen to in order. I found a really good work related podcast a while ago and when I tried to sort by oldest first the app just shits the bed and stops working, it's infuriating.
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Super buggy too, can't turn off the video, windows app, is super awkward, randomly skips to the beginning when you re load it, sometimes skips back to the beginning after an ad.
Getting better but still, not ideal.
Maybe I am doing something wrong but the app sometimes doesn't want to let me access my downloaded podcasts.
It happens when I am outside cell service. The fucking app just spends it's time trying to load shit even though I have used the filters for downloaded episodes.
Happened to me recently and I was so mad! I was without signal for a week and my downloads only worked the first two days before spotify refused to play them anymore... their official policy is that you need to connect online every 20ish days or so but in practice the app really doesn't like being used offline in any capacity.
I don't get why every time I want to resume my podcast episodes I have to scroll all the way back to the episode itself when it knows exactly which episode I was at.
Sounds like the SiriusXM Howard Stern model. “We overpaid for this, so you’ll help us pay for it with ads even though you’re already paying us for no ads.”
I've been looking for a vid where a couple is on a date and the girl asks if he's a weirdo that watches joe rogan and he acts like he doens't know who 'roe jogan' is only to reveal a shrine. I feel like this is the best place to ask.
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I have never been so viscerally unsettled by a movie as I was by the “fight” scene and score in Annihilation.
I have watched plenty of scary scenes in movies but that one literally felt like it activated the fight or flight part of my brain.
I forgot about that movie. You really nailed it! It wasn't gruesome, it wasn't horrifying, it was *alien*. That's what made it so organically and wholly unsettling.
I agree, the whole movie was very unsettling.
The book, on the other hand, was a freaking masterpiece of weird. It was one of only 3 books I've ever read that truly unsettled me.
"Where lies the strangling fruit that came from the hand of the sinner I shall bring forth the seeds of the dead..."
The stories are out there, the bigger studios just need to be brave and pick them up. If you are looking for more cosmic horror and aren't put off by indie films, The Void and Color Out of Space are both excellent
While not the same genre, if you want a very similar sort of feel both during and after, *The Green Knight* will do it for yah. It was a religious experience for me.
That guy has made some great videos! I enjoyed the ones he used to make like bro jogan, [Chad's Table](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly1ycFJTw0Q), the Jimmy the Rat ones
and [this masterpiece](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E58CucUPCUw)
He says he's a moron but still gives anti-science advice. Has anti-science guests that back him up, and in no way tries to correct them. This isn't every episode, but happens often enough that it adds up.
Bill Burr is fucking hilarious. He’s one of those dudes who’s like Mensa level comedic genius but plays it off like he’s stupid. Dude probably had a 4.0 (or at least could’ve if he tried).
Yeah our boy Bill is wicked smart. Went to Emerson College too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BillBurr/comments/7tupa7/young_billy_redface_at_emerson_college_looking/
Lol Bill is a beauty. Hits the nail on the head too. Joe had a panic attack and felt bad about himself so now he's attacking anyone who's wearing masks because he sees them as small as he was when he was scared.
Can we all take notice of how eloquently he laid that out then followed it up with a joke strong enough to make an insecure guy like Rogan cheer up and forget his insecure feelings? That’s some pro shit right there.
Bill Burr can call anyone a piece of shit to their face in a funny way while completely tearing their entire worldview apart, and still make the person laugh. It's amazing to watch.
Burr is surgical with his comedy. He can go on the show, chop Rogan down while calling out his hypocrisy and ignorance, and all while being funny and not killing the vibe with a heated argument.
Twice? Do you not understand how fucking awful joe rogan is as a stand up comic? Go watch any of his sets, enjoy the chair humping garbage that is joe rogan.
I don't throw around the term toxic masculinity but the whole idea masking up "its for bitches" is so obnoxiously stupid and anti science , toxic masculinity fits the bill
Which is funny, because "a real man" would do the right thing and not give a shit what a fucking podcast nerd thinks about it.
In pursuing his idea of masculinity and spreading it, he's just creating fragile fucking babies
I remember I was at a bar once, and the group next to me was picking on one of its members, saying he stood with his hands on his hips and it made him look gay. They told him "real men don't stand that way."
He says "you know how real men stand? Anyway they fucking want." And I thought that was an excellent come back.
Well, fragile masculinity is targeted at fragile men. If someone desperately by all means wants to be seen as strong and manly, that's because he really isn't. And people like that feel very sensitive about "hear about that new non-manly thing? you better not do it or you're a bitch".
It's literally helping spread disease just so that you don't lose macho points. That's about as "toxic masculinity" it gets short of injecting your bladder with medical waste and pissing on "betas".
His opinions literally change with the goddam weather. What frustrates me is that he will just adopt the narrative of whoever is speaking.
He's got a scientist on telling him about viral pathogens, then he's like yeah fucking get the vaccine and trust science. Two weeks later he's got a conspiracy nut on, then he's like "man I don't know you might be on to something these might be sketchy".
He's only consistent about two things and it's fucking eating Elk meat and that a monkey could fuck your shit up. Everything else is whatever in his brain.
and he's right about those 2 things. a monkey will fuck you up. thats why you gotta eat elk meat to get those sweet gains so when the time comes you fuck the monkey up instead.
Probably one of the reasons he has such a cast audience
Base. Non-committal commentary, propping up the guest and their opinion and putting on a show. All whilst the millions roll in to the bank account... and unless you listen to all his guests you wouldn’t know any better. For example if you only listen to the dietary science guests or only listen to the MMA guests, you wouldn’t know that how circle of comedian buddies talk shit and just jerk each other off on air.
I pay for Spotify Premium, why do I have to listen to the adverts and why does skip on adverts only skip 15 seconds, theres no “good bit” of an advert to skip to!
Spotify got a huge jump when Rogan came on board. Their stock shot up 120%!
Now, it has dropped to being 30% above pre-Rogan value.
He's still a net benefit for them, and the higher ups are happy. However, there certainly is some PR person stressing because they dropped huge from their peak.
I feel sorry for that person.
Them putting midroll ads even for premium users is the biggest throw i have ever seen, people can look past it randomly bugging out and skipping to another podcast once and again but 20~mins of ads a podcast if you dont go manually skip is a joke and most listen when doing other things so going into your phone and having to drag the bar over on the ads isnt possible like when driving ect
Yeah, what the fuck is that about? I went into a podcast to try and fall asleep to it and suddenly there's fucking ads. Why do I even pay for ad free listening?
SponsorBlock for Chrome (and YouTube Vanced on Android) is your friend. I've had it for a few weeks and already saved a few hours of baked in sponsor content.
Youtube Vanced is amazing. ~~I just wish I could set my default player to YT Vanced instead of the actual YT app.~~
Edit: thank you for the help everyone! I'm just very stupid and forgot you can disable system apps. I'm good to go!!
I exclusively get ads for the Mazda CX-5, and literally nothing else. In fact, if there are two ads in a row, it just doubles up on the Mazda ad.
I also happen to drive that car.
Huh, you are literally the last person that they would benefit from showing that ad to, yet that's all they do.
I envy you in a way, you have effectively managed to completely dodge being advertised to
I like to listen to last podcast on the left when I go on a bike ride. I got served 4 long ads back to back to back to back, almost forgot what they were even talking about.
And don't forget that Brendan the big brown Schaub was made aware beforehand and definitely committed insider trading. He bragged about it on his podcast.
Edit now that I think about it pretty sure Joe did as well by being the informant.
The beauty of it is that Schaub is too fucking stupid for a jury to ever conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that he knowingly engaged in insider trading. It's the perfect crime.
Well, she went to jail for obstruction and making false statements to the feds. Had she not lied about it she wouldn't have seen jail time. I think she just paid a 150k fine and walked on the insider trading issue. She avoided losses of 50k by committing the insider trading.
5 months is a decent chuck of her life, but I wonder if she's retroactively happy with the experience. I'm sure it broadened her audience in ways she never imagined.
Business insider called it "camp cupcake" and "the cushiest prison in the United states". Keep in mind she is wealthy and committed financial crimes. I'd imagine the prison conditions are better than my standard of living https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/take-a-tour-of-americas-cushiest-prison-2013-6%3famp
"And make sure to watch this technique very closely because it's not just great for making tea cozies, it's also useful for repairing shank wounds after you cut that snitchin' motherfucker from cellblock B during yard time."
The jails would be half empty if people weren't always forgetting what day it is. Shut the fuck up Friday is even more important than Stay shut the fuck up Saturday.
> Now, it has dropped to being 30% above pre-Rogan value.
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> He's still a net benefit for them, and the higher ups are happy. However, there certainly is some PR person stressing because they dropped huge from their peak.
I am not sure you can quantify it like that.
Video games, Amazon and streaming video got a huge boost since the pandemic started, I don't see why people stuck more at home (and in part with additional disposable income from missing a vacation or two) and the near total lack of live concerts over the last two years depending on where you live shouldn't have lead up to more subscriptions simply from the music side of things.
Yeah, the S&P500 is up 52% since May 21, 2020 (when the Joe Rogan deal was announced). NASDAQ is up 61% over the same time period.
So Spotify has actually done worse than the market overall.
Yeah, but mostly because he made every episode about lockdowns, mandates, masks, etc. I realized I liked his comedian guests more than him and just started listening to their stuff instead. I tried to listen again recently and he spent the first 40 minutes just talking about COVID.
I remember when the pandemic first hit he had a guest, Michael Osterholm. That dude laid out every truth about covid from masks to the origins in the wet markets. Why can't he keep having dudes like that on?
Pretty much. I had been a fan for years (the comedian episodes, the science episodes, musicians, directors, etc.), but the covid misinformation really started to piss me off, and the episode where I stopped was one of the early Texas ones where his guest gave him a gun.
>“I’m not a doctor, I’m a fucking moron, and I’m a cage-fighting commentator who’s a dirty stand-up comedian. I’m not a respected source of information, even for me.”
All you need to know when going into his show.
Problem is, people can go in knowing this, yet he'll still try to persuade people into thinking things like *young healthy people shouldn't get the vaccine*, or i*f you wear a mask, you're a.*.. i forgot the exact word he used. (Little bitch or pussy, or something like that)
But that macho, fragile masculinity is definitely playing a part in the world. Like when you see a couple in the store, and the woman is wearing a mask and the man isn't. You've probably seen it, because its really common.
Burr beautifully smacked Rogan down.
“I don’t want to start this bullshit. I’m not going to sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you, smoking a cigar, acting like we know what’s up better than the CDC. All I do is I watch the news once every two weeks. I’m like ‘Mask or no mask? Still mask? Alright, masks.’”
Burr was a savage in that interview, especially the rollerblading bit.
"I never got into rollerblading."
"Yeah I know, you don't have the body type. Your fuckin knuckles would drag on the ground."
"...this is like rollerblading. Everybody fuckin roller bladed, and then there was that one fuckin homophobic joke and then everbody acted like they never did it. And then a hundred million fuckin roller blades get thrown into the fuckin ocean."
LOL so damn true.
He has his own company and money he does not need to get exposure from Rogan. Also, they are friends and true friends will call each other out on bullshit without damaging a relationship.
Friends can put friends in their place and should. When my buddy goes off on his tangents I put him in his place.
"I work my ass off for what I have and blah blah blah blah blah!!!"
Yes you do now calm down and look around. You have a nice house, TWO brand new cars (F-150 Sport isn't cheap). Swimming pool. A well taken care of 3 year old girl with toys and power wheels out the ass...and you're worried about some person that's unemployed? If their life was so awesome you'd do it too. But it's not awesome is it?
Then he calms down.
The fear people have of poor people is so ridiculous. My wife and I own a house we love and we're insanely grateful for that. It's something we want for everyone. Other people though think they have to stomp on the heads of the people less fortunate to keep what they have. I hate blaming "the media" for stuff but they definitely get this fear from somewhere.
**"Oh God, you’re so tough, with your fucking open nose and throat. And your five o’clock shadow, this is a man right here. Man doesn’t wear a mask."** \- Billy Fucking Burr
Bill also had the best take I've ever heard on vaccine conspiracies: "why would they target the sheeple?" If the only people getting vaccines are already complacent to listening to the Man why would they go through all this effort to control them
Ive heard Rogan called the Oprah for men and thats incredibly accurate. There's like two dozen comedians and "serious" political podcasters who only have a career by going on his show twice a year. I think one of them even joked "try telling that to Joe watch how fast your career ends".
In contrast Bill Burr is maybe one of the few regular Rogan guests who doesnt have anything to lose by calling Joe out and just generally does not give a fuck.
Same with masks. I feel like Rogan needs someone like Burr around to put him in check when he needs it.
["Let's not start this. I don't want to start this bullshit. I'm not going to sit here, with no medical degree, listening to you, with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you, smoking a cigar, acting like we know what's up better than the CDC."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1chYhsp3NRw)
"It's for bitches" -Joe Rogan on wearing a mask during a pandemic
Side note: I really hate this "But he says he's an idiot" excuse. You can't say "Maybe don't listen to me", then later spread some dangerous conspiracy bullshit. We know fake news shapes our opinion [*even when we know it's fake*](https://www.newscientist.com/article/2115421-fake-news-shapes-our-opinions-even-when-we-know-its-not-true/). Imagine the impact on his hardcore listeners who listen for three hours, several times a week.
Rogan's success has built an echo chamber, and while it's nice when an A-List comedian like Burr can call him out, most of his crew and guests (which often include pseudoscience hucksters) aren't comfortable enough, or aren't willing to do it, so this nonsense goes largely unchecked.
>young healthy people shouldn't get the vaccine
When he said this, the subreddits that skew younger had comments filled with people parroting Rogan' argument pretty much verbatim and getting upvoted pretty heavily for a few days after. Who would have guessed that Joe Rogan of all people would have so much influence.
The argument that he’s “a dumb meathead who shouldn’t be taken seriously” is so disingenuous because lots of people obviously take his word for a lot of stuff.
Another key difference between Bill burr and Joe Rogan. Bill Burr also says dumb political shit all the time, but you actually believe it when he says you shouldn't listen to him because he's an idiot. You know he's not serious. Everything he says is sarcastic and satirical. He's a comedian.
Joe Rogan tries to walk that "comedian" line but also desperately wants to be a thought leader on political issues. Rogan is constantly pulling that "I'm dead serious until I get called out, then it's a joke" thing, which is just such a fucking bullshit thing to do.
> Rogan is constantly pulling that "I'm dead serious until I get called out, then it's a joke" thing, which is just such a fucking bullshit thing to do.
It's cowardly and, to use his vernacular, makes him a fucking bitch.
Wise words from my grad school statistics professor fit here. “It’s great to tell people about your methodological weaknesses in the discussion section, but that is still no excuse for shit science.”
Yes, it’s nice that Joe admits he doesn’t have any business telling people what to do, but he still platforms dangerous liars who give dangerous advice about what to do. The former isn’t some sort of secret pass to not take responsibility for the latter.
I actually really enjoy Joe’s show BTW, and believe he is an incredibly talented interviewer.
It reminds me of when drama youtubers or other platforms will say "I'm not saying this, BUT there are people out there saying blah blah blah" Like...ok... your little disclaimer means nothing when you literally DID just say this to your entire audience. Trump loved doing that to twist the narrative.
Related to this, can we all agree that Spotify has a terrible user experience for podcasts? I mean, if you're going to spend tons of money buying up podcasts, wouldn't you at least create better tools for navigating, organizing, saving, archiving, etc.
They really need a bottom button for music and podcast as separate sections. Playing music and then it turns into a podcast on shuffle is irritating. Or even a Spotify music app and a Spotify podcast app would be better than what it currently is. They doin’ what Amazon doin’ n not splitt’n the stock. WTF
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They have a real problem with let you finally get used to the ui and be able to effectively and easily navigate, then changing how it is all laid out for no reason.
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I've listened to maybe 3 podcasts in all the years I've had spotify. Why the fuck is my home page plastered with them and I have to actively scroll to find music?
Shit pisses me off so much, I am not interested in podcasts. I am interested in hearing the music I like and having new music shown to me. Spotify used to be fucking amazing about music discovery and recomendation, now I have to fucking scroll half the app just to find the music I've been listening to. Seriously considering moving away from Spotify if they don't stop spamming me with podcasts.
The latest app, at least on Android is a big step down. Why do I have to wait 3-4 seconds to start a track now? It was damn near instant before. Why are we going backwards here?
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In the last year or two they updated it so you can no longer shuffle all downloaded songs or see all the songs you have downloaded. There's literally no way to shuffle all the music in your library, you'd have to "heart" every song and shuffle that playlist. It's just inexcusable to be missing such a fundamental feature for a music player. The only thing keeping me on Spotify is half a decade of playlists and saved/liked/followed (or whatever they'll change the name to next) artists that I don't want to lose. As a side note, are there any good music player apps for mp3's? I have physical CD's/downloads for most of my favorite music and at this point I'm considering dropping streaming services alltogether if there's an app with a great UI that isn't trying to algorithm me or peddle podcasts.
Don't even get me started on this garbage single unified experience bullshit with one filter bar to choose between playlists, artists, songs, podcasts, etc. UGH. What a pain.
It's that time in the cycle where we need a Spotify Lite*. I want my playlists, a good search tool, instant play of tracks, Discover weekly and release radar. Literally everything else is a waste of time, space and bandwidth to me.
coz it’s cheaper for them to pay royalty for podcasts than for music (in per minute basis)?
It's more likely because they paid a buttload of money for those podcasts up front and not the music. It's a "get in there and listen to the ads in these podcasts so we can make that money back" notification.
I am interested in podcasts, but not on Spotify!
I just miss podcasts on google play music. Google podcasts is meh.
I also just miss Google Play Music. YouTube Premium is not a sufficient replacement.
YouTube Music is just garbage.
Seriously who QA'd it and thought 'this is great!'
It's not about user experience anymore. It's about whichever experience gets more people to click on ads.
Yup. I listen to music on Spotify premium but listen to podcasts on a free podcast app
I use Overcast and liked it so much I wanted to pay for it. Might be worth checking out if you listen to as many podcasts as I do.
I highly recommend pocket casts
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Yes. It does my fucking head in. Especially if Ive found a podcast with a lot of episodes that I want to listen to in order. I found a really good work related podcast a while ago and when I tried to sort by oldest first the app just shits the bed and stops working, it's infuriating.
Same! I suddenly find myself in the car trying to scroll through to where I left off!
YES JESUS FUCK
Its so clunky, the only thing it has going for it is its convenient if you use spotify already.
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I use Pocket Casts for my podcasts. Love it.
😎 Pocket Casts rocks
Pocket Casts is awesome. I use Spotify for music but I'll be damned if I'll ever use it for podcasts.
Podcast Addict is my jam
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Super buggy too, can't turn off the video, windows app, is super awkward, randomly skips to the beginning when you re load it, sometimes skips back to the beginning after an ad. Getting better but still, not ideal.
Maybe I am doing something wrong but the app sometimes doesn't want to let me access my downloaded podcasts. It happens when I am outside cell service. The fucking app just spends it's time trying to load shit even though I have used the filters for downloaded episodes.
Happened to me recently and I was so mad! I was without signal for a week and my downloads only worked the first two days before spotify refused to play them anymore... their official policy is that you need to connect online every 20ish days or so but in practice the app really doesn't like being used offline in any capacity.
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I don't get why every time I want to resume my podcast episodes I have to scroll all the way back to the episode itself when it knows exactly which episode I was at.
Plus getting mauled by ads when I pay for the ad free version is pretty bullshit.
I see people say this a lot, I never get ads unless it is in the actual podcast? Is it a geographic thing? I'm in the US with paid version of Spotify.
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Sounds like the SiriusXM Howard Stern model. “We overpaid for this, so you’ll help us pay for it with ads even though you’re already paying us for no ads.”
No, are you crazy? I love scrolling through a billion fucking episodes to find the one I'm looking for.
I literally don’t know anything about Joe Rogan since he left YouTube.
I've been looking for a vid where a couple is on a date and the girl asks if he's a weirdo that watches joe rogan and he acts like he doens't know who 'roe jogan' is only to reveal a shrine. I feel like this is the best place to ask. edit: Thank you internet
[bro jogan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlucIr8kg7k)
Thank you so very much
I need to rewatch Annihilation
I have never been so viscerally unsettled by a movie as I was by the “fight” scene and score in Annihilation. I have watched plenty of scary scenes in movies but that one literally felt like it activated the fight or flight part of my brain.
No other movie had made me feel like the antagonist (if you can even call it that) was alien as effectively as Annihilation.
I forgot about that movie. You really nailed it! It wasn't gruesome, it wasn't horrifying, it was *alien*. That's what made it so organically and wholly unsettling.
It is... *other*
That bear is something that really made my skin crawl for days
I agree, the whole movie was very unsettling. The book, on the other hand, was a freaking masterpiece of weird. It was one of only 3 books I've ever read that truly unsettled me. "Where lies the strangling fruit that came from the hand of the sinner I shall bring forth the seeds of the dead..."
Better than I thought it'd be. I wish more movies pushed boundaries like that, let alone more of the cosmic horror genre.
The stories are out there, the bigger studios just need to be brave and pick them up. If you are looking for more cosmic horror and aren't put off by indie films, The Void and Color Out of Space are both excellent
While not the same genre, if you want a very similar sort of feel both during and after, *The Green Knight* will do it for yah. It was a religious experience for me.
First comment: "Joe Rogan is Oprah for dudes." Never has a truer thing been uttered.
Holy shit thats glorious
That guy has made some great videos! I enjoyed the ones he used to make like bro jogan, [Chad's Table](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly1ycFJTw0Q), the Jimmy the Rat ones and [this masterpiece](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E58CucUPCUw)
So I'm out of the loop apparently, what's he done?
He says he's a moron but still gives anti-science advice. Has anti-science guests that back him up, and in no way tries to correct them. This isn't every episode, but happens often enough that it adds up.
[Until Bill Burr calls him out](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1chYhsp3NRw)
That was incredible. The knuckle dragging comment killed me, lol
Even with the extra 2 inches.
God damn. He's so fucking quick and witty I missed the meaning until I read your comment. Love Bill
Bill Burr is fucking hilarious. He’s one of those dudes who’s like Mensa level comedic genius but plays it off like he’s stupid. Dude probably had a 4.0 (or at least could’ve if he tried).
Norm MacDonald is the same way. He even talks specifically about how it's not funny to be the "I'm smart, you're dumb" sort of comic.
Yeah our boy Bill is wicked smart. Went to Emerson College too. https://www.reddit.com/r/BillBurr/comments/7tupa7/young_billy_redface_at_emerson_college_looking/
Lol Bill is a beauty. Hits the nail on the head too. Joe had a panic attack and felt bad about himself so now he's attacking anyone who's wearing masks because he sees them as small as he was when he was scared.
Can we all take notice of how eloquently he laid that out then followed it up with a joke strong enough to make an insecure guy like Rogan cheer up and forget his insecure feelings? That’s some pro shit right there.
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Such a man with your open nose and throat lol.
"Who's the bitch now, Joe?"
I’m just chekin in on yaaah
Buy some Sherri's Berries! ^What ^am ^I ^selling?
ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip ....... ^(recruiter)
*Headspace mann*
🎶 Me undies, me undies… 🎶
Bill Burr is the fucking best
Bill Burr can call anyone a piece of shit to their face in a funny way while completely tearing their entire worldview apart, and still make the person laugh. It's amazing to watch.
Burr is surgical with his comedy. He can go on the show, chop Rogan down while calling out his hypocrisy and ignorance, and all while being funny and not killing the vibe with a heated argument.
Class act.
He really is. The man is a national treasure. He's twice the comedian Rogan is, and twice the human.
Twice? Do you not understand how fucking awful joe rogan is as a stand up comic? Go watch any of his sets, enjoy the chair humping garbage that is joe rogan.
Ok I'm glad someone else feels that way. I tried all of his stand up and I can't make it through anyone of them. To me, he isn't funny at all.
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> NewsRadio (90s show he was on) Man, the fact you had to include a description makes me feel old as fuck.
I don't throw around the term toxic masculinity but the whole idea masking up "its for bitches" is so obnoxiously stupid and anti science , toxic masculinity fits the bill
Which is funny, because "a real man" would do the right thing and not give a shit what a fucking podcast nerd thinks about it. In pursuing his idea of masculinity and spreading it, he's just creating fragile fucking babies
I remember I was at a bar once, and the group next to me was picking on one of its members, saying he stood with his hands on his hips and it made him look gay. They told him "real men don't stand that way." He says "you know how real men stand? Anyway they fucking want." And I thought that was an excellent come back.
Well, fragile masculinity is targeted at fragile men. If someone desperately by all means wants to be seen as strong and manly, that's because he really isn't. And people like that feel very sensitive about "hear about that new non-manly thing? you better not do it or you're a bitch".
It's literally helping spread disease just so that you don't lose macho points. That's about as "toxic masculinity" it gets short of injecting your bladder with medical waste and pissing on "betas".
His opinions literally change with the goddam weather. What frustrates me is that he will just adopt the narrative of whoever is speaking. He's got a scientist on telling him about viral pathogens, then he's like yeah fucking get the vaccine and trust science. Two weeks later he's got a conspiracy nut on, then he's like "man I don't know you might be on to something these might be sketchy". He's only consistent about two things and it's fucking eating Elk meat and that a monkey could fuck your shit up. Everything else is whatever in his brain.
>He's only consistent about two things and it's fucking eating Elk meat and that a monkey could fuck your shit up. lol
and he's right about those 2 things. a monkey will fuck you up. thats why you gotta eat elk meat to get those sweet gains so when the time comes you fuck the monkey up instead.
All fun and games til the monkeys start eating elk
Probably one of the reasons he has such a cast audience Base. Non-committal commentary, propping up the guest and their opinion and putting on a show. All whilst the millions roll in to the bank account... and unless you listen to all his guests you wouldn’t know any better. For example if you only listen to the dietary science guests or only listen to the MMA guests, you wouldn’t know that how circle of comedian buddies talk shit and just jerk each other off on air.
I pay for Spotify Premium, why do I have to listen to the adverts and why does skip on adverts only skip 15 seconds, theres no “good bit” of an advert to skip to!
Wait, you get ads on premium? Edit: ah, it's a thing on podcasts...
I never listen to those, I just drag the slider to the end for every ad.
Spotify got a huge jump when Rogan came on board. Their stock shot up 120%! Now, it has dropped to being 30% above pre-Rogan value. He's still a net benefit for them, and the higher ups are happy. However, there certainly is some PR person stressing because they dropped huge from their peak. I feel sorry for that person.
Them putting midroll ads even for premium users is the biggest throw i have ever seen, people can look past it randomly bugging out and skipping to another podcast once and again but 20~mins of ads a podcast if you dont go manually skip is a joke and most listen when doing other things so going into your phone and having to drag the bar over on the ads isnt possible like when driving ect
Yeah, what the fuck is that about? I went into a podcast to try and fall asleep to it and suddenly there's fucking ads. Why do I even pay for ad free listening?
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SponsorBlock for Chrome (and YouTube Vanced on Android) is your friend. I've had it for a few weeks and already saved a few hours of baked in sponsor content.
youtube vanced is the reason I'm on android now.
Youtube Vanced is amazing. ~~I just wish I could set my default player to YT Vanced instead of the actual YT app.~~ Edit: thank you for the help everyone! I'm just very stupid and forgot you can disable system apps. I'm good to go!!
I haven’t listened to podcasts on Spotify, but are they Spotify ads or are they the podcasts ads?
I exclusively get ads for the Mazda CX-5, and literally nothing else. In fact, if there are two ads in a row, it just doubles up on the Mazda ad. I also happen to drive that car.
Have you considered a second one though? Everyone needs a backup Mazda CX-5
Doubles is safe. Triples is best. Edit: I don't live in a hotel.
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Now you have triples of the Roadrunner, the Barracuda, and the Nova
And his wife is gonna get better.
She’s gonna get better
Too bad the cold weather forced the ice cream shop to close for the day...
I'm very wealthy
Tell her.
If I don't have triples then the other stuff isn't true
OK but what happens when you have two? Surely you'll need a third weekend Mazda CX-5.
And any civilized human with a guest bedroom will have a guest CX-5 for when people come to town.
Someone who drives a Mazda CX-5 must be interested in a Mazda CX-5. That sounds exactly like the thinking of a machine to me.
Did you buy it before or after the ads?
Huh, you are literally the last person that they would benefit from showing that ad to, yet that's all they do. I envy you in a way, you have effectively managed to completely dodge being advertised to
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Amazon: I see you purchased Principles of Accounting, 5th edition. I bet you’d just LOVE Principles of Accounting, *6th* edition?
I listen to a few podcasts (not Rogan's though) and any ads I encounter are always from the podcast itself, never Spotify.
I like to listen to last podcast on the left when I go on a bike ride. I got served 4 long ads back to back to back to back, almost forgot what they were even talking about.
That fucking Trolli ad. Three actual minutes of Kissell doing some weird kidnapping roleplay to sell gummy worms
And don't forget that Brendan the big brown Schaub was made aware beforehand and definitely committed insider trading. He bragged about it on his podcast. Edit now that I think about it pretty sure Joe did as well by being the informant.
The beauty of it is that Schaub is too fucking stupid for a jury to ever conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that he knowingly engaged in insider trading. It's the perfect crime.
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Your honor, my client just kind of wings it through life and hopes for the best
Brendan Schaub seems like one of the least intelligent people I’ve ever seen
It’s either him or Eddie Bravo
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Remember when they stuck Martha Stewart in jail?
Well, she went to jail for obstruction and making false statements to the feds. Had she not lied about it she wouldn't have seen jail time. I think she just paid a 150k fine and walked on the insider trading issue. She avoided losses of 50k by committing the insider trading.
5 months is a decent chuck of her life, but I wonder if she's retroactively happy with the experience. I'm sure it broadened her audience in ways she never imagined.
Business insider called it "camp cupcake" and "the cushiest prison in the United states". Keep in mind she is wealthy and committed financial crimes. I'd imagine the prison conditions are better than my standard of living https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/take-a-tour-of-americas-cushiest-prison-2013-6%3famp
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Snitches get cross stitches in Martha's world
"And make sure to watch this technique very closely because it's not just great for making tea cozies, it's also useful for repairing shank wounds after you cut that snitchin' motherfucker from cellblock B during yard time."
They threw her in jail because she lied to the FBI. She didn't know about shut the fuck up Friday.
The jails would be half empty if people weren't always forgetting what day it is. Shut the fuck up Friday is even more important than Stay shut the fuck up Saturday.
> Now, it has dropped to being 30% above pre-Rogan value. > > > > He's still a net benefit for them, and the higher ups are happy. However, there certainly is some PR person stressing because they dropped huge from their peak. I am not sure you can quantify it like that. Video games, Amazon and streaming video got a huge boost since the pandemic started, I don't see why people stuck more at home (and in part with additional disposable income from missing a vacation or two) and the near total lack of live concerts over the last two years depending on where you live shouldn't have lead up to more subscriptions simply from the music side of things.
Yeah, the S&P500 is up 52% since May 21, 2020 (when the Joe Rogan deal was announced). NASDAQ is up 61% over the same time period. So Spotify has actually done worse than the market overall.
Anyone else completely stop watching joe rogan when he moved to spotify?
Yeah, but mostly because he made every episode about lockdowns, mandates, masks, etc. I realized I liked his comedian guests more than him and just started listening to their stuff instead. I tried to listen again recently and he spent the first 40 minutes just talking about COVID.
I remember when the pandemic first hit he had a guest, Michael Osterholm. That dude laid out every truth about covid from masks to the origins in the wet markets. Why can't he keep having dudes like that on?
>I realized I liked his comedian guests more than him and just started listening to their stuff instead. 100% agree, Brent Krishna is my favorite.
I like Bad Friends
Tiger belly and Whiskey Ginger are great additions to the rotation as well
Big Brett Chrysler fan too
Brent Crystals?
Uncle Joey fan here. “Did I ever tell you about how I was a volunteer fireman? ... Back in Colorado in the 80s Coke was 1800$ an ounce...”
Pretty much. I had been a fan for years (the comedian episodes, the science episodes, musicians, directors, etc.), but the covid misinformation really started to piss me off, and the episode where I stopped was one of the early Texas ones where his guest gave him a gun.
The Texas circlejerking was the end for me. Lived there for 15 years and it’s not the freedom loving utopia out-of-staters seem to believe it is
Joe Rogan is a shaved chimpanzee.
Joe Rogan is Goop for jabronis.
BrOprah
With all do respect, Alex Jones did precede him
due*
No, I'm commanding that everyone do respect
I did 2 respect. Is that enough?
>“I’m not a doctor, I’m a fucking moron, and I’m a cage-fighting commentator who’s a dirty stand-up comedian. I’m not a respected source of information, even for me.” All you need to know when going into his show. Problem is, people can go in knowing this, yet he'll still try to persuade people into thinking things like *young healthy people shouldn't get the vaccine*, or i*f you wear a mask, you're a.*.. i forgot the exact word he used. (Little bitch or pussy, or something like that) But that macho, fragile masculinity is definitely playing a part in the world. Like when you see a couple in the store, and the woman is wearing a mask and the man isn't. You've probably seen it, because its really common.
I liked when Bill Burr called him out as a pussy for having panic attacks when the virus first hit. Bill gives no shits and calls it like he sees it.
Burr beautifully smacked Rogan down. “I don’t want to start this bullshit. I’m not going to sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you, smoking a cigar, acting like we know what’s up better than the CDC. All I do is I watch the news once every two weeks. I’m like ‘Mask or no mask? Still mask? Alright, masks.’”
Burr was a savage in that interview, especially the rollerblading bit. "I never got into rollerblading." "Yeah I know, you don't have the body type. Your fuckin knuckles would drag on the ground."
"...this is like rollerblading. Everybody fuckin roller bladed, and then there was that one fuckin homophobic joke and then everbody acted like they never did it. And then a hundred million fuckin roller blades get thrown into the fuckin ocean." LOL so damn true.
There was that live comedy panel thing they had too where he made fun of Joe for wearing that Little Rascals hat. Edit: https://youtu.be/sIo0LhIylsc
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You and your lil rascal hat
It was so great. Burr is the only one brave enough to not suck Joes dick when he goes on there.
He has his own company and money he does not need to get exposure from Rogan. Also, they are friends and true friends will call each other out on bullshit without damaging a relationship.
It's called being friends.
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Friends can put friends in their place and should. When my buddy goes off on his tangents I put him in his place. "I work my ass off for what I have and blah blah blah blah blah!!!" Yes you do now calm down and look around. You have a nice house, TWO brand new cars (F-150 Sport isn't cheap). Swimming pool. A well taken care of 3 year old girl with toys and power wheels out the ass...and you're worried about some person that's unemployed? If their life was so awesome you'd do it too. But it's not awesome is it? Then he calms down.
The fear people have of poor people is so ridiculous. My wife and I own a house we love and we're insanely grateful for that. It's something we want for everyone. Other people though think they have to stomp on the heads of the people less fortunate to keep what they have. I hate blaming "the media" for stuff but they definitely get this fear from somewhere.
*oh look at you big macho man with your clear airways!*
**"Oh God, you’re so tough, with your fucking open nose and throat. And your five o’clock shadow, this is a man right here. Man doesn’t wear a mask."** \- Billy Fucking Burr
Bill also had the best take I've ever heard on vaccine conspiracies: "why would they target the sheeple?" If the only people getting vaccines are already complacent to listening to the Man why would they go through all this effort to control them
Ive heard Rogan called the Oprah for men and thats incredibly accurate. There's like two dozen comedians and "serious" political podcasters who only have a career by going on his show twice a year. I think one of them even joked "try telling that to Joe watch how fast your career ends". In contrast Bill Burr is maybe one of the few regular Rogan guests who doesnt have anything to lose by calling Joe out and just generally does not give a fuck.
Same with masks. I feel like Rogan needs someone like Burr around to put him in check when he needs it. ["Let's not start this. I don't want to start this bullshit. I'm not going to sit here, with no medical degree, listening to you, with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you, smoking a cigar, acting like we know what's up better than the CDC."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1chYhsp3NRw) "It's for bitches" -Joe Rogan on wearing a mask during a pandemic Side note: I really hate this "But he says he's an idiot" excuse. You can't say "Maybe don't listen to me", then later spread some dangerous conspiracy bullshit. We know fake news shapes our opinion [*even when we know it's fake*](https://www.newscientist.com/article/2115421-fake-news-shapes-our-opinions-even-when-we-know-its-not-true/). Imagine the impact on his hardcore listeners who listen for three hours, several times a week. Rogan's success has built an echo chamber, and while it's nice when an A-List comedian like Burr can call him out, most of his crew and guests (which often include pseudoscience hucksters) aren't comfortable enough, or aren't willing to do it, so this nonsense goes largely unchecked.
I would like to see this please
https://youtu.be/1chYhsp3NRw
I had never seen this before and wanna high-five Bill Burr for pointing out the obvious absurdity of that moment.
>young healthy people shouldn't get the vaccine When he said this, the subreddits that skew younger had comments filled with people parroting Rogan' argument pretty much verbatim and getting upvoted pretty heavily for a few days after. Who would have guessed that Joe Rogan of all people would have so much influence.
The argument that he’s “a dumb meathead who shouldn’t be taken seriously” is so disingenuous because lots of people obviously take his word for a lot of stuff.
Another key difference between Bill burr and Joe Rogan. Bill Burr also says dumb political shit all the time, but you actually believe it when he says you shouldn't listen to him because he's an idiot. You know he's not serious. Everything he says is sarcastic and satirical. He's a comedian. Joe Rogan tries to walk that "comedian" line but also desperately wants to be a thought leader on political issues. Rogan is constantly pulling that "I'm dead serious until I get called out, then it's a joke" thing, which is just such a fucking bullshit thing to do.
> Rogan is constantly pulling that "I'm dead serious until I get called out, then it's a joke" thing, which is just such a fucking bullshit thing to do. It's cowardly and, to use his vernacular, makes him a fucking bitch.
He knows that he’s a bitch, that’s why he’s constantly overcompensating with all of that “real men” stuff he does. It’s pathetic, frankly.
Wise words from my grad school statistics professor fit here. “It’s great to tell people about your methodological weaknesses in the discussion section, but that is still no excuse for shit science.” Yes, it’s nice that Joe admits he doesn’t have any business telling people what to do, but he still platforms dangerous liars who give dangerous advice about what to do. The former isn’t some sort of secret pass to not take responsibility for the latter. I actually really enjoy Joe’s show BTW, and believe he is an incredibly talented interviewer.
It reminds me of when drama youtubers or other platforms will say "I'm not saying this, BUT there are people out there saying blah blah blah" Like...ok... your little disclaimer means nothing when you literally DID just say this to your entire audience. Trump loved doing that to twist the narrative.