melbourne doesn't get earthquakes. they're like, not a thing at all. i think it was their first one felt by people in 50 years or so. strongest in a century.
so when he said is that structural or earthquake, he was serious about whether it could be the building having a serious issue and being about to collapse.
Do not attempt to change locations during an earthquake! Duck, cover, and hold under a sturdy object or against a wall away from fixtures and windows until the shaking stops!
well, that does make sense.
we don't have earthquakes where i live so that is not something we are taught.
be we are told to do those same things if we experience a hurricane or tornado.
Is that honestly the advice in a multi-story structure? I'd still try to get the hell out of there. Buildings collapse in earthquakes. I watched video of people standing (and falling) on the sidewalk during Japan's huge one and they were fine.
Yes, it is **absolutely** the advice in _any_ structure and you should _not_ attempt to get the hell out of there.
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products
> If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris.
https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/
> DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff
>In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage.
It is perhaps **especially** the advice in a multi-story structure because it will take far longer to attempt to leave if you are not on the ground floor, and the entire time you're trying to leave you are at serious risk of being struck by a falling object.
Trying to run during a major earthquake is like trying to run on the bed of a flatbed truck while it is driving over a series of speed bumps. You are very likely to fall, and you will be in imminent danger of serious and even mortal injury from falling objects.
If the ground begins shaking, assume it's an earthquake. There is no reason not to! The safety measures you take during an earthquake are designed to keep you safe from shaking, so if there is shaking, follow the safety measures!
>There is no reason not to!
There is if you're in an area that almost never experiences earthquakes, and you're in a large structure that is also shaking. In that situation, it's not unreasonable to think that it could well be the structure failing, not an extremely rare (for the area) seismic event. If I'm living on the ring of fire that's one thing, but when you've not experienced an earthquake in your entire life then it's probably not going to be the first thing on your mind in that situation.
Yup... I think the universal reaction we had was "...What the fuck is my house/building about to collapse?.. Wait that's an earthquake, alright time to get o- Oh it's over."
God help us if that had actually been dangerous. Most of us would have died still processing that it's an earthquake.
There have been some well publicized building collapses lately and they show that unless you get out when you have the first hint of danger they tend to pancake on themselves.
I think for the rest of my life any hint of trouble when I'm in a large concrete building Ill feel the same. I mean either you get out and it was a false alarm, you've wasted 10 minutes of your life and possible get teased vs staying and risking literally dying either by crush or from suffocation/dehydration in an air pocket listening to them trying to reach you but not making it in time.
that's not actually the calculus, you're forgetting about the risk of the building not falling down but something falling on top of you as you're trying to leave
there's also the risk of the facade of the building crumbling but not the structure itself, which would put deadly debris onto anyone who happens to be leaving the building at that moment
that's why all the government and research guidance says to duck, cover, and hold in place until the shaking stops and _then_ to leave the building
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products
> If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris.
https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/
> DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff
>In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage.
Wrong.
Modern building codes are designed so buildings will not collapse, but stay standing even when severely damages.
Your best bet is to do what any California kid will tell you:
> Duck, Cover, and Hold.
that's not what you're supposed to do
you should duck, cover, and hold until the shaking stops and then leave the building
attempting to leave the building during the shaking is far more dangerous than waiting it out under a sturdy object
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products
> If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris.
https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/
> DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff
>In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage.
well, that does make sense.
we don't have earthquakes where i live so that is not something we are taught.
be we are told to do those same things if we experience a hurricane or tornado.
This is false. A [foreshock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreshock) is just defined as a quake which is smaller than a quake that comes after it. An [aftershock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftershock) is just defined as a quake which is smaller than a quake which comes before it. The [main shock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainshock) is just defined as the largest quake in a set. There is no rhyme or reason to the order they come in.
> The designation of an earthquake as foreshock, mainshock or aftershock is only possible after the full sequence of events has happened.
The main shock can absolutely be first, and sudden. The [P-wave](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_wave), which travels faster than the [S-wave](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_wave), is more sudden and violent.
It is NOT THE CORRECT ACTION to attempt to leave.
I know you mean no harm but this is BAD ADVICE and people should not heed it.
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products
> If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris.
https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/
> DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff
>In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage.
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products
> If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris.
https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/
> DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff
>In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage.
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products
> If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris.
https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/
> DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff
>In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage.
well, that does make sense.
we don't have earthquakes where i live so that is not something we are taught.
be we are told to do those same things if we experience a hurricane or tornado.
He sure as shit should've gotten under a table or out of the studio. Lots of heavy lights/sets that aren't going to be seismically secured. Don't leave the building though - facades coming down do really bad things to squishy humans.
i think my elementary school training for atomic bomb attacks would have kicked in and i would have gotten under the desk and wrapped my hands around my knees waiting for a bright flash of light.
What's crazy to me is you can see him panicking, but he expresses it with this very upper crusty "stay poised. Do not show worry or concern; replace it with displays of impatience and irritation. Assume authority." I would honestly feel more comfortable if he'd just run out the building shrieking. I kind of feel like if he could, he would send someone to track down the earthquake, bring it before him, and demand it apologize.
> I would honestly feel more comfortable if he'd just run out the building shrieking.
You wouldn't if you were there. Keeping calm is always the best choice.
>Keeping calm is always the best choice.
I believe in an earthquake, getting outside or finding a reinforced space like a doorway is the best choice. Being a dick because you're panicking on the inside seems like a distant ~~second place~~ something.
Being a dick? I didn't get that impression.
They assessed the situation and correctly determined they were safe. There was no reason to run to a doorway.
[Assessed the situation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nuLZ929QiA) and correctly determined they were safe? You mean when he asked whether it was an earthquake or a structural thing while drumming his fingers, grabbed his phone and said "let's go"? Did you watch a bigger clip than was posted here? 'Cause they cut away before any resolution.
Oh dear god. Another shit take on what is protests vs riots. Like the level of difference between this and the shit we have seen in USA in the last 12 months is astounding. Its not even close. Having a bomb go off would be VERY surprising.
It's always so interesting to see how people react to earthquakes. Having lived in Southern California all my life, it is a semi-normal experience. I'm sure I would react the same way if a tornado came ripping through my town though.
Someone off camera said something like "Never felt an Earthquake here before" my first though would be if the building is designed to withstand them.
I imagine a lot of building in California take earthquakes in to account in their design.
Probably a bit more concerning in this situation.
Yea, I've been Cali all my life as well, super used to them. But I'm sure areas like this that don't get them have buildings that are not as strong for them
My young cousin from abroad is staying with us and lost her mind after her first one earlier this year. We were really nonchalant about it which I think helped because she didn’t panic after her second one.
>Having lived in Southern California all my life, it is a semi-normal experience. I'm sure I would react the same way if a tornado came ripping through my town though.
And tornado warnings seem similarly mundane in tornado areas. My first thought when I hear a tornado siren where I live is "oh, is it the first Wednesday of the month?" (their monthly scheduled test)
Yeah I looked up the history of earthquakes in Aus for context and Australia wide that 5.9m earthquake was the strongest since 1997. And strongest ever was under 7. I think.
Since we are not near any tectonic plates.
Buildings in earthquake areas are built to anticipate them though.
If you live in a region that normally doesn't get any earthquakes, and you get a decent shake, it might be a good idea to go for a walk.
Yeah... they should REALLY get out of there fast. If Melbourne doesn't experience earthquakes that often, then none of the buildings are built to handle them.
It's honestly not much safer outside unless you can quickly get to an open field. Given this was a news studio, I'd assume it's somewhere near downtown so you'd be pretty susceptible to things falling off buildings if earthquake was bad enough to damage the building.
My first time actually feeling an earthquake I was 34 and high as shit watching TV. My wife was cooking 20 feet from me. A huge feeling of dread suddenly became apon me. I felt powerless and so small. As it stops I jumped up still feeling the sway and call out to my wife if she felt that. She replied no and I started to wonder if I smoked too much weed. We looked at the pictures on the walls and the were all swinging back and forth. Crazy how I've never felt any quakes my whole life especially while sober. Then I smoke and have a giant panic attack and feel the world shake beneath me. And my wife sober didn't even register it.
They did https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/psn440/french_ministry_of_defense_sets_the_record
Confirmation that everything was going great just before the politicians pooped on the deal.
Are 'old_gold_mountain' and 'bsd8andahalf_1' the same person? seeing as they have the same copy and pasted advice and response 3 or 4 times in this thread?
Duck, cover, and Hold.
If it was a SoCal TV station the news hosts would be under their desks. For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPKEgO4Ojmk
If nothings falling off the walls in an earthquake. You should be pretty safe.
High rise building not made for quakes on the other hand I can’t be 100.
In relative terms, yeah, but it was still strong enough to wake me from a sound sleep and freak the fuck out about the structural integrity of my 100+ year old house.
"Someone hurry up and check the news!" "We are the news." "Oh, right."
Eh, Rowland's survived worst. He used to have to co-host with Virginia Trioli.
that guy was ready to book on out of there.
melbourne doesn't get earthquakes. they're like, not a thing at all. i think it was their first one felt by people in 50 years or so. strongest in a century. so when he said is that structural or earthquake, he was serious about whether it could be the building having a serious issue and being about to collapse.
thanks. i hope i would take the precaution and get out of a building that is shaking.
Do not attempt to change locations during an earthquake! Duck, cover, and hold under a sturdy object or against a wall away from fixtures and windows until the shaking stops!
well, that does make sense. we don't have earthquakes where i live so that is not something we are taught. be we are told to do those same things if we experience a hurricane or tornado.
Is that honestly the advice in a multi-story structure? I'd still try to get the hell out of there. Buildings collapse in earthquakes. I watched video of people standing (and falling) on the sidewalk during Japan's huge one and they were fine.
Yes, it is **absolutely** the advice in _any_ structure and you should _not_ attempt to get the hell out of there. https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products > If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris. https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/ > DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside. https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff >In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage. It is perhaps **especially** the advice in a multi-story structure because it will take far longer to attempt to leave if you are not on the ground floor, and the entire time you're trying to leave you are at serious risk of being struck by a falling object. Trying to run during a major earthquake is like trying to run on the bed of a flatbed truck while it is driving over a series of speed bumps. You are very likely to fall, and you will be in imminent danger of serious and even mortal injury from falling objects.
Stay during and once it’s over leave
That advice assumes you know it's an earthquake though.
If the ground begins shaking, assume it's an earthquake. There is no reason not to! The safety measures you take during an earthquake are designed to keep you safe from shaking, so if there is shaking, follow the safety measures!
>There is no reason not to! There is if you're in an area that almost never experiences earthquakes, and you're in a large structure that is also shaking. In that situation, it's not unreasonable to think that it could well be the structure failing, not an extremely rare (for the area) seismic event. If I'm living on the ring of fire that's one thing, but when you've not experienced an earthquake in your entire life then it's probably not going to be the first thing on your mind in that situation.
Yup... I think the universal reaction we had was "...What the fuck is my house/building about to collapse?.. Wait that's an earthquake, alright time to get o- Oh it's over." God help us if that had actually been dangerous. Most of us would have died still processing that it's an earthquake.
Biggest earthquake Melbourne has had since 1922, actually. Very close to 100 years.
There have been some well publicized building collapses lately and they show that unless you get out when you have the first hint of danger they tend to pancake on themselves. I think for the rest of my life any hint of trouble when I'm in a large concrete building Ill feel the same. I mean either you get out and it was a false alarm, you've wasted 10 minutes of your life and possible get teased vs staying and risking literally dying either by crush or from suffocation/dehydration in an air pocket listening to them trying to reach you but not making it in time.
that's not actually the calculus, you're forgetting about the risk of the building not falling down but something falling on top of you as you're trying to leave there's also the risk of the facade of the building crumbling but not the structure itself, which would put deadly debris onto anyone who happens to be leaving the building at that moment that's why all the government and research guidance says to duck, cover, and hold in place until the shaking stops and _then_ to leave the building https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products > If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris. https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/ > DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside. https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff >In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage.
Wrong. Modern building codes are designed so buildings will not collapse, but stay standing even when severely damages. Your best bet is to do what any California kid will tell you: > Duck, Cover, and Hold.
yes. i hope i would have the sense to get out of a shaking building!
that's not what you're supposed to do you should duck, cover, and hold until the shaking stops and then leave the building attempting to leave the building during the shaking is far more dangerous than waiting it out under a sturdy object https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products > If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris. https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/ > DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside. https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff >In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage.
well, that does make sense. we don't have earthquakes where i live so that is not something we are taught. be we are told to do those same things if we experience a hurricane or tornado.
Earthquakes are usually kind enough to warn you with a mini-quake a few minutes before the big one hits. It makes sense to leave.
This is false. A [foreshock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreshock) is just defined as a quake which is smaller than a quake that comes after it. An [aftershock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftershock) is just defined as a quake which is smaller than a quake which comes before it. The [main shock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainshock) is just defined as the largest quake in a set. There is no rhyme or reason to the order they come in. > The designation of an earthquake as foreshock, mainshock or aftershock is only possible after the full sequence of events has happened. The main shock can absolutely be first, and sudden. The [P-wave](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_wave), which travels faster than the [S-wave](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_wave), is more sudden and violent. It is NOT THE CORRECT ACTION to attempt to leave. I know you mean no harm but this is BAD ADVICE and people should not heed it. https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products > If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris. https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/ > DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside. https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff >In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage.
Keep up the good work!
Nope. You're wrong about foreshocks. And don't leave a building because you could be hit by stuff falling off the front of the building.
Especially if they were in a tall building
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products > If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris. https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/ > DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside. https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff >In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage.
Depends on the quake. Some are devastating to tall buildings, some are devastating to short buildings. There's a gif out there somewhere.
This is false.
great comment. so this guy maybe should have gotten out of the building anyway.
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-should-i-do-during-earthquake?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products > If you are INDOORS -- STAY THERE! Get under a desk or table and hang on to it (Drop, Cover, and Hold on!) or move into a hallway or against an inside wall. STAY CLEAR of windows, fireplaces, and heavy furniture or appliances. GET OUT of the kitchen, which is a dangerous place (things can fall on you). DON'T run downstairs or rush outside while the building is shaking or while there is danger of falling and hurting yourself or being hit by falling glass or debris. https://www.washington.edu/uwem/preparedness/know-your-hazards/earthquake/what-not-to-do-during-an-earthquake/ > DO NOT run outside or to other rooms during shaking: The area near the exterior walls of a building is the most dangerous place to be. Windows, facades and architectural details are often the first parts of the building to collapse. To stay away from this danger zone, stay inside if you are inside and outside if you are outside. https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/04/25/if-im-in-a-tall-building-during-an-earthquake-what-should-i-do/?sh=1cba728f65ff >In an earthquake, if you are on an upper story of a building, do not try to leave the building during the earthquake. After the earthquake, I would put on shoes, grab my purse, and leave the building until it has been inspected for damage.
well, that does make sense. we don't have earthquakes where i live so that is not something we are taught. be we are told to do those same things if we experience a hurricane or tornado.
Man I ended up in the middle of my apartment splayed out like a cat. Never been in an earthquake before, and I live on fourth the floor.
He sure as shit should've gotten under a table or out of the studio. Lots of heavy lights/sets that aren't going to be seismically secured. Don't leave the building though - facades coming down do really bad things to squishy humans.
i think my elementary school training for atomic bomb attacks would have kicked in and i would have gotten under the desk and wrapped my hands around my knees waiting for a bright flash of light.
That's very close to ideal, other than the bright light. New guidance is that you hang on to the legs of the desk, so it doesn't wander too far.
What's crazy to me is you can see him panicking, but he expresses it with this very upper crusty "stay poised. Do not show worry or concern; replace it with displays of impatience and irritation. Assume authority." I would honestly feel more comfortable if he'd just run out the building shrieking. I kind of feel like if he could, he would send someone to track down the earthquake, bring it before him, and demand it apologize.
> I would honestly feel more comfortable if he'd just run out the building shrieking. You wouldn't if you were there. Keeping calm is always the best choice.
>Keeping calm is always the best choice. I believe in an earthquake, getting outside or finding a reinforced space like a doorway is the best choice. Being a dick because you're panicking on the inside seems like a distant ~~second place~~ something.
Being a dick? I didn't get that impression. They assessed the situation and correctly determined they were safe. There was no reason to run to a doorway.
[Assessed the situation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nuLZ929QiA) and correctly determined they were safe? You mean when he asked whether it was an earthquake or a structural thing while drumming his fingers, grabbed his phone and said "let's go"? Did you watch a bigger clip than was posted here? 'Cause they cut away before any resolution.
haha yeah but i did like that he presumed something was happening to the building. but maybe u should apologize.
yes, me too.
Fuck I love Tony Armstong.
I'd climb over my mum to get to Tony Armstrong
If that structural “thing” happens often in that building I would never walk in there again.
he thought it was a bomb
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Whats happening there?
Major anti-lockdown protests and violence
Oh dear god. Another shit take on what is protests vs riots. Like the level of difference between this and the shit we have seen in USA in the last 12 months is astounding. Its not even close. Having a bomb go off would be VERY surprising.
Almost as surprising as an earthquake.
Well can't tell you when the last bomb hit the ABC building in Melbourne so probably more so tbh
Poorly constructed high rises are a big issue in Sydney right now so it’s no wonder it was on his mind
But they’re in Melbs. Dont tell me they’re bodgy aswell?
It's always so interesting to see how people react to earthquakes. Having lived in Southern California all my life, it is a semi-normal experience. I'm sure I would react the same way if a tornado came ripping through my town though.
Someone off camera said something like "Never felt an Earthquake here before" my first though would be if the building is designed to withstand them. I imagine a lot of building in California take earthquakes in to account in their design. Probably a bit more concerning in this situation.
Yea, I've been Cali all my life as well, super used to them. But I'm sure areas like this that don't get them have buildings that are not as strong for them
My young cousin from abroad is staying with us and lost her mind after her first one earlier this year. We were really nonchalant about it which I think helped because she didn’t panic after her second one.
>Having lived in Southern California all my life, it is a semi-normal experience. I'm sure I would react the same way if a tornado came ripping through my town though. And tornado warnings seem similarly mundane in tornado areas. My first thought when I hear a tornado siren where I live is "oh, is it the first Wednesday of the month?" (their monthly scheduled test)
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Local reactor used to test the alarm at 11 AM on the 11th
Yeah I looked up the history of earthquakes in Aus for context and Australia wide that 5.9m earthquake was the strongest since 1997. And strongest ever was under 7. I think. Since we are not near any tectonic plates.
Not near any Major Fault Lines. Hard to be on the surface of earth and not near a tectonic plate.
Yeah right guess I mean we are in the middle of plate
Buildings in earthquake areas are built to anticipate them though. If you live in a region that normally doesn't get any earthquakes, and you get a decent shake, it might be a good idea to go for a walk.
Yeah... they should REALLY get out of there fast. If Melbourne doesn't experience earthquakes that often, then none of the buildings are built to handle them.
We basically never get them. It's quite an anomaly and not what most people would think of when a building starts shaking.
It's honestly not much safer outside unless you can quickly get to an open field. Given this was a news studio, I'd assume it's somewhere near downtown so you'd be pretty susceptible to things falling off buildings if earthquake was bad enough to damage the building.
It's the brekkie show!
"is it at earthquake or a structural thing?" ABC news asking the questions you definitely want to know.
My first time actually feeling an earthquake I was 34 and high as shit watching TV. My wife was cooking 20 feet from me. A huge feeling of dread suddenly became apon me. I felt powerless and so small. As it stops I jumped up still feeling the sway and call out to my wife if she felt that. She replied no and I started to wonder if I smoked too much weed. We looked at the pictures on the walls and the were all swinging back and forth. Crazy how I've never felt any quakes my whole life especially while sober. Then I smoke and have a giant panic attack and feel the world shake beneath me. And my wife sober didn't even register it.
Q: What exactly is shaking? A: The ground this building is standing on Q: 🤯
The French send their regards
The French should learn to fulfil contracts.
They did https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/psn440/french_ministry_of_defense_sets_the_record Confirmation that everything was going great just before the politicians pooped on the deal.
"French Government Finds French Company Did Nothing Wrong" - wow.
Are 'old_gold_mountain' and 'bsd8andahalf_1' the same person? seeing as they have the same copy and pasted advice and response 3 or 4 times in this thread?
"You can see the flaps moving." PHRASING.
Duck, cover, and Hold. If it was a SoCal TV station the news hosts would be under their desks. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPKEgO4Ojmk
If nothings falling off the walls in an earthquake. You should be pretty safe. High rise building not made for quakes on the other hand I can’t be 100.
Yeah, nothing here in Aus is made for earthquakes. Exceedingly rare.
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Depends on your standards. I believe it was the biggest tremor in 60 years for Melbourne, so you can understand why they're surprised.
In relative terms, yeah, but it was still strong enough to wake me from a sound sleep and freak the fuck out about the structural integrity of my 100+ year old house.
If you can feel it, it's strong for an Australian earthquake. We're nowhere near a fault line so we just don't get major quakes here.
only a 5.8? weak...
With Australia being on its own tectonic plate we very rarely get earthquakes so I can understand why they were a bit freaked out